Mini Normal 2058 (Endgame)

[Morality]

Hello.
I was a replace in.
But don't assume that my other body saw my role and didn't want to be Scum, maybe they just prefer not to be town!

Morality on the other hand has a very high chance of being Scum.

Pretty sure the two people realized that they had the chance to give up their roles so that Vedith and Flavor Leaf could replace in and have a blast losing as scum together.

Only in fantasy land, though.

[Morality]

Hello.
I was a replace in.
But don't assume that my other body saw my role and didn't want to be Scum, maybe they just prefer not to be town!

Morality on the other hand has a very high chance of being Scum.

Pretty sure the two people realized that they had the chance to give up their roles so that Vedith and Flavor Leaf could replace in and have a blast losing as scum together.

Only in fantasy land, though.

I did this comment specifically for you, RCE.

[Morality]

I’m an ascetic Miller.

One of those are true.

[Morality]

Oh, Vorkuta’s in this game. Heya, it’sa me, Flavor Leaf.

[Morality]

I believe it \o/

The scum game we had where I had to out my secret Flavor Leaf account at the time is literally my favorite scum game that I didn’t win.

Besides Team Mafia, that might actually be the last time I lost as scum.

[Morality]

The scum game we had where I had to out my secret Flavor Leaf account at the time is literally my favorite scum game that I didn’t win.

Besides Team Mafia, that might actually be the last time I lost as scum.

That's what happens we you get lumped with me.
I remember that game pretty well though and gave a good view to your Scum game.
I'm watching you!

Good. I like it when all eyes are on me.

[Morality]

Hello.
I was a replace in.
But don't assume that my other body saw my role and didn't want to be Scum, maybe they just prefer not to be town!

Morality on the other hand has a very high chance of being Scum.

Pretty sure the two people realized that they had the chance to give up their roles so that Vedith and Flavor Leaf could replace in and have a blast losing as scum together.

Only in fantasy land, though.

I did this comment specifically for you, RCE.

Lol well, FL can't make it to lylo now. We absolutely have to Lynch him this game.

Not gonna lie, when I saw the playerlist, and decided to replace in, I said to myself even before I got my role pm, “Yep, this is the game I get lynched in.”

[Morality]

And then I got my role pm.

Side note, I like how we’re not voting. I’m totally down to not have an RVS this game, and just start voting when it’s time to vote.

[Morality]

Good. Radiant's obviously town.

VOTE: Morality

I’ve heard good things about you.

I look forward to 1v1ing you later.

[Morality]

I don't 1v1, this is a team game.

Yeah, but I don’t know who my team is right now. Thus the 1v1 that shall eventually be created.

[Morality]

Do you get pocketed by flattery like I do, RC?

[Morality]

You have to distinguish real or not real RC.

I don’t refer to you by anything.

Cowbells is the Sasuke to my Naruto.

[Morality]

You have to distinguish real or not real RC.

You did make me realize a few of my scum tells, though, I’ll give you that one.

[Morality]

If you haven't kissed it doesn't matter.

Why do you assume we haven’t?

[Morality]

I have a decent FL read, what can I say.

FL isn’t Morality, though.

[Morality]

However, I am playing like my FL self right now. Allow me to switch into Morality mode.

At the moment, I am feeling there is a 90% chance at scum having already interacted with me in some form. Yes, I made that statistic up, but it’s irrelevant. Most general statistics are, but it does well in showing the conviction of said player’s statement. Whether or not they are playing up towards me or going after me remains to be seen. I see reason to play it both ways. Vedith, for instance, a player I enjoy playing with and think fondly of, has chosen to side with me. I can see that coming from either alignment, as town he could be pairing up with me in the hopes of a town block, or to closer evaluate me, and as scum he could be doing it so I have a blind eye towards him. Fair warning, I do have blind eye towards Vedith if he is scum. I have tunneled him hard when we were T/T in our first ever game.

On the other hand, Radiant and I, whom I realized we both have a special place in our heart for Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, have a well documented almost eternal like feud at this point. He’s one of the only players who can potentially get me lynched when he’s scum, and I feel like I’m one of the only players who can derail his tunneling and make him see when he’s wrong, albeit multiple pages of mindless arguing, which eventually help us find scum. When we’re both town, we butt heads a lot, however we generally end up lynching scum together somehow.

Shoshin I don’t have real experience with. I might’ve played a game with her, but I don’t think I actually played enough to remember if I did. Right now, it seems as if she’s playing up to Cowbells immediately, which is interesting to me. I’ve seen townies do that, but it’s definitely a thing scum does, smart play to get Cowbells on their side.

I’m extremely invested in Shoshin. I’m eager to see her play. I almost hope she is scum so I can have the price page of catching her.

[Morality]

Price page was meant to be privelage, but I think I prefer price page.

[Morality]

I’ve grown to enjoy playing with you, Cowbells. All those newbie games we played together I look back at pretty fondly. Like me, you strive to be the best, and not in an “I’m better than you way”, but in a competition is fun, and I want to play against other people trying to be the best kind of way.

[Morality]

I’m an ascetic Miller.

One of those are true.

are we policy lynching this today, or day before lylo?

VOTE: Morality

Day before lylo, I have a meta of fake claiming as town. I’m the reaction test player.

[Morality]

You're assigning an awful lot of weight to our relationship FL

What can I say, I’m a passionate person. I put a lot of stock into a lot of relationships. I’m an Actor/Writer who studied in Sociology, specifically Family and Relationships. The better someone knows me the better they can see where I’m coming from.

[Morality]

What's your current read on Morality, Radiant?

Radiant can’t read me early game. Most of our history revolves around that fact.

[Morality]

4 posts and 8 posts without voting is gross.

Who's alt is RCEnigma?

I have 22 and haven’t thrown one down. However, that’s just a playstyle thing, I think. I have a tendency to not vote until something pings me.

RCEnigma isn’t an alt, I don’t think.

It’s interesting that you seem to know me yet you’re claiming a PL. if you actually knew me, you’d know that that’s very much not gonna happen, in addition you’d know that as town, I tend to reaction test with claims a lot.

I’m also on my Morality account, so I play overly analytical, yet i get reckless when I can taste triumph. True to the Light Yagami character himself.

[Morality]

RCEnigma and Vedith lean scum. Morality lean scum + needs to die, so more votes here please

If Enigma, Vedith, and I were the scum team, we’d have all straight face claimed miller.

Nuff said.

[Morality]

I’ve noticed that I come across as much more naturally scummy on Morality. Flavor Leaf comes off as charming to people, even with the cocky smirk attitude.

[Morality]

RCEnigma and Vedith lean scum. Morality lean scum + needs to die, so more votes here please

If Enigma, Vedith, and I were the scum team, we’d have all straight face claimed miller.

Nuff said.

I'm not deluded enough to think that's likely to be the scum team, ty.

I never stated that you did.

[Morality]

How do I change that?

I just clicked like 15 of the games in your iso, they were all replace ins. Can you link the last couple you were in from the beginning?

He technically still replaced into this game. As did I.

[Morality]

4 posts and 8 posts without voting is gross.

Who's alt is RCEnigma?

I have 22 and haven’t thrown one down. However, that’s just a playstyle thing, I think. I have a tendency to not vote until something pings me.

RCEnigma isn’t an alt, I don’t think.

It’s interesting that you seem to know me yet you’re claiming a PL. if you actually knew me, you’d know that that’s very much not gonna happen, in addition you’d know that as town, I tend to reaction test with claims a lot.

I’m also on my Morality account, so I play overly analytical, yet i get reckless when I can taste triumph. True to the Light Yagami character himself.

And I'm voting you

How does he know RC if he isnt an alt, from mu or w.e?

Is it not gonna happen? I think it very well might. Especially because you're the scummiest poster so far.

I disagree. I’m NAI at best. If anything, I think I’m townie than most people. People just like to scum read the guy who self analyzes and controls the game flow early before actual reads are set in.

I’m the loudest player, but by no means am I actually the scummiest. Look further into it than surface level.

This play was very much by design, and is creating the intended results.

[Morality]

RCEnigma and Vedith lean scum. Morality lean scum + needs to die, so more votes here please

If Enigma, Vedith, and I were the scum team, we’d have all straight face claimed miller.

Nuff said.

I'm not deluded enough to think that's likely to be the scum team, ty.

I never stated that you did.

So why are you associating yourself with them?

Because I saw all the names together, imagines a world where that was the scum team, and I like to post a lot of NAI fluff to see how people react to it.

[Morality]

4 posts and 8 posts without voting is gross.

Who's alt is RCEnigma?

I have 22 and haven’t thrown one down. However, that’s just a playstyle thing, I think. I have a tendency to not vote until something pings me.

RCEnigma isn’t an alt, I don’t think.

It’s interesting that you seem to know me yet you’re claiming a PL. if you actually knew me, you’d know that that’s very much not gonna happen, in addition you’d know that as town, I tend to reaction test with claims a lot.

I’m also on my Morality account, so I play overly analytical, yet i get reckless when I can taste triumph. True to the Light Yagami character himself.

And I'm voting you

How does he know RC if he isnt an alt, from mu or w.e?

Is it not gonna happen? I think it very well might. Especially because you're the scummiest poster so far.

I disagree. I’m NAI at best. If anything, I think I’m townie than most people. People just like to scum read the guy who self analyzes and controls the game flow early before actual reads are set in.

I’m the loudest player, but by no means am I actually the scummiest. Look further into it than surface level.

This play was very much by design, and is creating the intended results.

Surface level: negative modifier claim needs to die at some point
deeper level: you have posted like a quarter of the posts in thread yet havent given a read nor placed a vote nor done anything that creates an environment to catch scum

I disagree. I feel I’ve actually been incredibly transparent on all my thoughts this game.

It’s incredibly early. Why should I have any strong reads? I start off with everyone being a slight town read, then go from there. I don’t look at single actions for reads, I like to piece multiple things together. I have my thoughts on Vedith earlier and the potential of him buddying.

To me, it just seems like you’re posting in a way that people who look st things from a mechanical level rather than a social or personable level look at and enjoy, which to me comes across as lazy town play or safe scum play.

[Morality]

RCEnigma and Vedith lean scum. Morality lean scum + needs to die, so more votes here please

If Enigma, Vedith, and I were the scum team, we’d have all straight face claimed miller.

Nuff said.

I'm not deluded enough to think that's likely to be the scum team, ty.

I never stated that you did.

So why are you associating yourself with them?

Because I saw all the names together, imagines a world where that was the scum team, and I like to post a lot of NAI fluff to see how people react to it.

It reads more to me like trying to get them to associate their alignments with yours, but ok

Associate my alignment with theirs? You brought up lean scum reads on page 2 on the three of us. While you don’t think that’s actually the scum team, you made it clear with your play that you wanted people to look at the three of us, and see scumminess.

[Morality]

Hi its me your town

Its probably a good thing since I haven't played mafia in forever

RCEnigma reminds me of me as scum making awkward early posts

Leaning town on Boats and Cowbells

Was Morality's claim tongue in cheek? I can't tell

I always have my tongue in my cheek.

[Morality]

Hi its me your town

Its probably a good thing since I haven't played mafia in forever

RCEnigma reminds me of me as scum making awkward early posts

Leaning town on Boats and Cowbells

Was Morality's claim tongue in cheek? I can't tell

Is there any town benefit to claiming "either ascetic or Miller"? as opposed to just their actual one

I realize the proper play is to claim which you are, but you said you know me.

In what world, as one of those roles, do I clear cut claim that?

[Morality]

RCEnigma and Vedith lean scum. Morality lean scum + needs to die, so more votes here please

If Enigma, Vedith, and I were the scum team, we’d have all straight face claimed miller.

Nuff said.

Or scum claimed outright to be honest.

I’m trying to claim scum jokingly as town more often after you brought up I did that as scum.

In Overkill 2, the first post in the game, I literally claimed SK and still won.

[Morality]

4 posts and 8 posts without voting is gross.

Who's alt is RCEnigma?

I have 22 and haven’t thrown one down. However, that’s just a playstyle thing, I think. I have a tendency to not vote until something pings me.

RCEnigma isn’t an alt, I don’t think.

It’s interesting that you seem to know me yet you’re claiming a PL. if you actually knew me, you’d know that that’s very much not gonna happen, in addition you’d know that as town, I tend to reaction test with claims a lot.

I’m also on my Morality account, so I play overly analytical, yet i get reckless when I can taste triumph. True to the Light Yagami character himself.

And I'm voting you

How does he know RC if he isnt an alt, from mu or w.e?

Is it not gonna happen? I think it very well might. Especially because you're the scummiest poster so far.

I disagree. I’m NAI at best. If anything, I think I’m townie than most people. People just like to scum read the guy who self analyzes and controls the game flow early before actual reads are set in.

I’m the loudest player, but by no means am I actually the scummiest. Look further into it than surface level.

This play was very much by design, and is creating the intended results.

Surface level: negative modifier claim needs to die at some point
deeper level: you have posted like a quarter of the posts in thread yet havent given a read nor placed a vote nor done anything that creates an environment to catch scum

I disagree. I feel I’ve actually been incredibly transparent on all my thoughts this game.

It’s incredibly early. Why should I have any strong reads? I start off with everyone being a slight town read, then go from there. I don’t look at single actions for reads, I like to piece multiple things together. I have my thoughts on Vedith earlier and the potential of him buddying.

To me, it just seems like you’re posting in a way that people who look st things from a mechanical level rather than a social or personable level look at and enjoy, which to me comes across as lazy town play or safe scum play.

Your last paragraph says I'm either town or scum, dont post useless things.

Strong reads are not what I'm saying, and you've been playing for years so I think you know this. Its page 3, of course I dont have a strong read on anyone's alignment (though I'm getting that direction on you), but if you dont argue shit the game never progresses. Stop hand waving.

I disagree. And the fact you misrepresented that line is again lazy town play or surface level scum play.

I’m not saying that you are either one or the other, it’s In saying that that specific actions comes across that way.

I look at chains. I don’t read people based on one action. I note my thoughts on everything, which helps for later game when I piece them all together. Sometimes after piecing things together, a lazy town play becomes obviously a scum motivated play, so I mark them all in my thoughts, and look into my own ISO to piece things together. It’s helped me figure games out. Which is why i like to directly interact with as many people as I can.

I also have had a lull in games recently, so I was pretty excited to hop into one. I asked to be put on the replacement list for this game, and luckily replacements were already needed.

[Morality]

I am unironically treating Shoshin as conftown unless she does something major to make me reconsider

That’s what I like to do to you.

[Morality]

All these tentative town reads.

RC is considering Shoshin conftown, and vice versa.

I’m treating RC and Vedith as conftown.

RCEnigma is basically gonna great me as conftown this early.

Let’s throw in COA there for good measure.

We should have a tentative conftown block that’s healthier for the game state if we just accept that for this day phase.

If we’re all town (doubt it), then we can have an epic game.

So all, what say you?

[Morality]

I'm inclined to believe that the claim is NAI but I don't really like that Morality pointed his own actions as being NAI.

Would you have preferred me call myself townie? Because I think I’m townie, but I know where I’m coming from.

I have a meta of self meta. It’s because I like talking about myself. Again, I act for a living. I feel it makes sense.

[Morality]

I actually don't have a problem with this town block.

Plus, I’d love to see how people react within the group. We’d literally force a potential scum to buddy up with someone, and that makes people come off as ungenuine.

Side note, I am actually leaning town on Boats.

And our IC wasn’t in the town block because they aren’t tentative conftown, they’re legit conftown.

[Morality]

Also, if it matters, I had a lot of caffeine this morning, I don’t usually drink caffeine, but I was working on my shot list for my upcoming project, so that’s why I’m hyperactive right now. I’m generally hyper, but I go over the top.

[Morality]

Tentative town block plus Aura
RCEnigma
RadiantCowbells
Vedith
Shoshin
CultofAthena
Morality
Aura


Three of these guys are scum that means.
YellowSnow
Creature
Vorkuta
Boats n Hoes
roomy
Tarkus

Like I said, Boats I’m leaning town on, Creature is my forever mason buddy, and Vorkuta’s just my buddy.

So I’m trying to look into YellowSnow, Roomy, and Tarkus, I guess.

(i don’t even know what i’m Doing at this point. Caffeine hit me hard.)

[Morality]

I reject your town block. I think you just want to buddy me

I already made this statement about you.

I also stated that there’s probably scum in the town block, and I wanted to force scum into it because we have a string of players who are just “conftowning” each other tentatively until later.

[Morality]

Vedith

I expected the scum in that town block to reject it.

Add that to the Vedith chain, I guess.

[Morality]

We could have been special, winning as town together.
But now I think me or you are scum!

And I say that as defence to you calling me scum only!

I never called you scum. I’m still optimistically hoping you’re town and will choose to deal with that at a later time.

[Morality]

So literally anyone who posted is in your town block, and everyone who didn't due to IRL reasons is worth looking into.
How seemingly completely arbitrary. I approve wholeheartedly

/s

Well, you know what they say, the town comes together after chaos ensues everything.

[Morality]

I never called you scum. I’m still optimistically hoping you’re town and will choose to deal with that at a later time.

Oh!

Your egg appears to be hatching.

[Morality]

My scum game is Lawful Evil.

My town game is Chaotic Neutral.

[Morality]

TIL

I'm going to make my own town block, with blackjack and hookers.

Maybe I’ll switch over to your town...

[Morality]

You think his self awareness is scummy?

Not so much self awareness as his need to point it out.

Like when you're scum sometimes you think "why are you scumreading me for that? There are plenty of valid reasons to scumread me, but that certainly isn't one of them!"

This is only a slight tick, its a bit early to have certainty about anyone's alignment. Except mine of course.

When I’m scum, people only scum read for reasons I allow them to scum read me for. Mooo ha ha ha ha!!! Ha.

[Morality]

I just like talking about myself, let’s be honest.

[Morality]

Vorkuta literally hyper analyzed me the 2nd game we played together. He was newbie in both of them, I was the IC in both of them. He soul read me.

I’ll answer your thing in a bit Vorkuta, I got caught up in something, which is why I stopped posting

[Morality]

with no vote thrown down

I mean what can I say- this game doesn't have a traditional RVS so joking around is kind of out of the point.
I'd vote on an existing wagon to generate pressure but I doubt the players of this caliber would even blink at that.

And I'd really like to be able to you know- do something useful this game, so I'm asking all you cool kids to give me literally anything to go on.

vote boon, hes probably scum.

and future advice: always have your vote down on somebody day 1/2, it's your duty as a townie.

Vorkuta won’t. He can soul read me.

[Morality]

with no vote thrown down

I mean what can I say- this game doesn't have a traditional RVS so joking around is kind of out of the point.
I'd vote on an existing wagon to generate pressure but I doubt the players of this caliber would even blink at that.

And I'd really like to be able to you know- do something useful this game, so I'm asking all you cool kids to give me literally anything to go on.

vote boon, hes probably scum.

and future advice: always have your vote down on somebody day 1/2, it's your duty as a townie.

Don't be intimidated Vorkuta, they aren't Demi gods.

You’re right, I’m not a Demi god. Read my sig.

[Morality]

And Vorkuta’s a strong player, he doesn’t have anything to be intimidated about.

[Morality]

Policy lynching me would be bad I think I'm a decent player.

Haha, this makes me smile.

[Morality]

Why would I care about your pointless tunneling me at this point? I don’t even scum read you.

[Morality]

I don’t know what I think of the Yellow Snow wagon yet. I don’t necessarily think any of them are particularly scummy

[Morality]

Why would I care about your pointless tunneling me at this point? I don’t even scum read you.

If you think I'm town, why would you ignore my attempts to sort you?

I got called into a work thing, which is kind of a social thing, but I get paid, and only looking at this during lulls. A little alcohol has been consumed, so I honestly didn’t even see it.

[Morality]

I read a thing didn’t comprehend a thing.

[Morality]

VOTE: Morality

No, you got caught in a lie.

Honestly, you’re just being incredibly ignorant and a surface level player.

Kinda irritating me, so I don’t really care about interacting with you at all tbh

[Morality]

Literally my damn strongest trait as scum is my basically perfect consistency. I’m not even gonna fathom that with any kind of decency.

You say you know who i am. Yeah, right.

[Morality]

This is a forced push from some surface level play who isn’t trying to do anything else in the game but push someone who’s barely even paying attention to the thread.

[Morality]

How sweet of you guys to lynch him for me. I’ll be the hammer.

I don’t think he’s scum, though, but I appreciate you all for sticking up for the tunnel on me.

[Morality]

Scum’s probably on the Boat wagon

[Morality]

This is it.

This is the game I’m gonna lose my shit. I feel it.

[Morality]

So, Morality hasn't scumread me at all, probably scum but like I said I won't really read his play until tomorrow.

Im a fan of CoAs catchup.

RC questioning his read on me gets me hot and bothered. Don't think me townreading him holds much weight though and I'll probably lean on others to read him for me... For now at least.

Snow is probably town and the pushes on him are bad, likely scum in there.

I'll hang onto my boats scumread.

Why would I scum read you right now? You’re completely NAI. This is the scummiest post you’ve made thus far imo.

[Morality]

Plus, I’ve been less active compared to the immediate game start. Catching up.

[Morality]

Morality has been pretty quiet since going at it with bnh. Kinda fishy. Like I said I'd be willing to switch to bnh.

Honestly, i’ve lost all desire to play this game at this point in the game, and kinda just forcing myself to catch up.

I’ll be fine eventually, maybe even today if something picks me back up, which is a point of my forced catchup.

I have a tendency to get pushed literally aimlessly by people who I think are just surface level town players, and I’m just really not about interacting with people when it’s like that. I start to get toxic, so I step away before I get there.

[Morality]

Why are you focused on bnh and don't have anything to say on anyone else?

Surface level town player #2, and other reason I don’t care to participate much right now.

[Morality]

Like sure, if you can actually case or scum read me for reasons that aren’t completely NAI or just someone you want to be scum, i don’t care.

This is how I play the game early, Yellow Snow should know that.

I don’t think him pushing like this on purpose to come off as ignorant is in his scum range either.

[Morality]

a lot of tonal things suggest to me that boats is village

Yeah, scum is probably in people who are more familiar with me because I get pocketed easily, and I’ll tunnel mislynches for them later in the game and defend them.

I haven’t looked into who on the boat wagon is scum yet, but I brought it up earlier that I think there is scum in there.

[Morality]

I'm dropping my Morality push, I'm smart enough to know the fact nobody agreed with me means I'm wrong. More to say, but I'm going to let the current discussions play out a bit.

I'm dropping my Morality push, I'm smart enough to know the fact nobody agreed with me means I'm wrong. More to say, but I'm going to let the current discussions play out a bit.

i think your push on morality is trash but i think his response has high scum caught for the wrong reasons equity
either way the correct play in this situation is to poe morality out given that there are several townies powerful enough to kill him if necessary

You of all people should know that I don’t care about being scum read for the wrong reasons. I like being scum read when I’m scum because there isn’t a single person on this site that i cant 1v1 with. When I’m scum, I have a stable of people ready to help support me in addition to any townies who jump on.

I flat out called people who jumped on the person targeting me as scum.

You know how irritated I get when I feel stubborn town are tunneling onto town me.

I don’t like this post, but I think that’s more NAI at this moment.

[Morality]

And Shoshin is my top town at the moment.

Why.

I’ve been hearing about “oh, shoshin’s so good.”

So you choose to wait to read me until later, but everyone seems to be giving Shoshin a pass.

If Shoshin is scum, I feel like the victory would be because people just get a pass.

I don’t see anything outwardly townie in shoshin’s posts, so could you show me your thought process on this?

Most of Shoshin’s posting could easily coming from Day 1 scum.

[Morality]

So I don't think I get my 'every player self-meta's themselves' request. Ah well.

I'm actually kind of dreading Creature popping in, because he does Line-by-Line update

hyper

posts in real time as he catches up.... so that's going to be fun.

I don't get the Boats wagon- the only thing I don't like about him is his lack of an avatar/dp.

i guess vedith is a questionable general townread since most of their play is softing something

Should I claim?

I buy it

Uhh.... who else can I comment on from this game

This is scummy of you. Last game we played together, you were able to hyper analyze me. Boats was pushing a trash case about obv NAI things, even when he had claimed to know who I am as a player, and pushing it as scummy. Even Boats knew it was trash, he was just pushing it.

[Morality]

Scum sheep those tunnels, they don’t start them.

VOTE: YellowSnow

I changed my mind about it being outside their scum range. I made the mistake of skipping over the primary beginner level of scum play because it’s a level I haven’t been at in so long I forgot.

I’m bringing out my inner Kira right now. It may subside soon.

[Morality]

I’m scum reading YellowSnow and Shoshin. Shoshin because after looking over her ISO and crowd reaction, it comes across as scum getting a pass by the playerlist and rolling with it.

[Morality]

And...the obligitory OMGUS vote.

if this doesn't confirm me as town I don't know what does. My vote's staying on Morality the rest of the day. (unless something significant changes).

This is ignorant af town or incredibly surface level scum.

Either way, I’m ready for this to end.

[Morality]

Of course anyone who thinks you're scum is ignorant. It couldn't be you're actually scum.

You’re town casing me.

Do some research. Majority of my entire town game is based on how people react to me specifically.

[Morality]

ScumShoshin’s gonna jump on me now, or at least start setting up.

[Morality]

yellowsnow is village and transparently so

i wasn't gonna go after you d1 but if you're gonna push an obvious scum-led mislynch wagon i will go after you d1

I’m literally just gonna replace out.

[Morality]

yellowsnow is village and transparently so

i wasn't gonna go after you d1 but if you're gonna push an obvious scum-led mislynch wagon i will go after you d1

I’m literally just gonna replace out.

Who’s scum on it?

Why would you push me and not actual scum? There are three others on this wagon, and I’m the one you bring this up to? I’m obviously in an emotional fit state right now.

If you think it’s a scum motivated lynch, attack who you think the scum is, not what is effectively a PL on a person you are aware you end up tunneling on when you’re town.

[Morality]

Too much ate for Kira, not enough calculated strike.

Won't be using specific posts for my shoshin read but the gist of it is her snapvote on me when I gave the vague conf town read on her was pretty townie, her questioning on RC was in the same vein.

Backing down from her push on Vedith and overall her voting doesn't read like jumpy scum. I'd consider them pings on slots she wants a reason to townread. I don't see it as day 1 scumplay.

Sure I'd be wary of most of the players here attempting to deep wolf just based on the caliber of players in this list but Shoshin isn't a slot I'm going to consider lynching right now.

This is a town case on me, I presume?

Scum me is the most calculated thing on this site.

[Morality]

Also, I never asked you to consider lynching Shoshin.

I just don’t agree with the town, and I think Shoshin is coasting off of how people just are naturally seeing her NAI stuff.

You gave a reason play wise. I don’t necessarily agree that it is AI, but I can see why it can be seen that way, and it might actually end up being AI later.

[Morality]

I’m obviously in an emotional fit state right now.

i don't let people get away with using claimed emotional states to justify bad votes. it's something i've learned from the experience of being myself for 5 years.

i think you're better as town than to scumread yellowsnow.

I’m reaction testing. Stop.

[Morality]

I’m obviously in an emotional fit state right now.

i don't let people get away with using claimed emotional states to justify bad votes. it's something i've learned from the experience of being myself for 5 years.

i think you're better as town than to scumread yellowsnow.

And Yellow is either surface level bad scum or ignorant town. Either way, I wouldn’t have cared if it took off. And Youknow for a fact that townme thinks that way when it involves me.

[Morality]

You're threatening to quit and you call me ignorant?

Oh, I’m not threatening to replace out for reasons you think.

It’s strictly a self preservance this. I do it to stop myself before I got super toxic.

[Morality]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10681093

Exact same thing happened here this was one of my more recent games even.

Lol, I even pushed the ignorant statement and PL.

[Morality]

Maybe I'm a better mafia player than you think and you're being surface level.

Come back to me with this after you go on a 2 year undefeated streak, and go multiple years only being lynched once as both alignments, then talk.

[Morality]

Scum undefeated streak*

That was years ago, though. I’m only on a little over a year for my undefeated scum streak right now, though.

[Morality]

shoshin why roomy over tarkus ?

Tarkus probably the scum game. Let’s go tarkus.

[Morality]

You have a good reason for marginalizing me then. Of course any newer player doesn't have any good reason to think you're scum and couldn't possibly be right.

Why does ScumMe tunnel you and not Boats?

I’ve actually been rather transparent in my thoughts. I have lack of strong reads, not lack of analysis.

You scum read me based on tone, which is just my personality. You don’t have any reason to scum read me or to town read me right now, let alone have a tunnel.

You either chose something that was loud and standing out to you, and thought it was scum because you don’t know how to accurately scum hunt or you’re scum trying to take advantage of a strong stance that can either allow you to coast or you for some reason think you can win that.

There are no other possibilities.

[Morality]

ok well idc. it literally doesn't matter. i have 6 confirmed townies, 1 heavily leaning townie, and you're pushing one of my confirmeds while being in the poe.

why don't you do something productive and vote tarkus and you can even just totally check out of a game where town had pretty much won it before it even started

Tarkus probably the scum game. Let’s go tarkus.

this is a good idea

I’ve caught scum in your Confirmed townie pools multiples times, why does this reason mean anything on Day 1?

That’s literally how classic T/T us work.

[Morality]

shoshin why roomy over tarkus ?

I like that he put himself out there as resident expert on scum Snow, then defended Snow when he was getting flak but later voted Snow when we started calling him town. Feels townier than roomy, who just feels like scum.

Damn it, I like this response.

[Morality]

ok well idc. it literally doesn't matter. i have 6 confirmed townies, 1 heavily leaning townie, and you're pushing one of my confirmeds while being in the poe.

why don't you do something productive and vote tarkus and you can even just totally check out of a game where town had pretty much won it before it even started

Tarkus probably the scum game. Let’s go tarkus.

this is a good idea

Piggybacking on this, I AM doing something productive, despite if people like it or not. I am giving my thoughts on situations, like Yellow, I am talking about the stuff that nobody wants to bring up, and people are just coasting.

I’m making sure to not let your town pool get by easilybdcause I know I’ve caught scum in your confirmed town pools before.

[Morality]

ok well idc. it literally doesn't matter. i have 6 confirmed townies, 1 heavily leaning townie, and you're pushing one of my confirmeds while being in the poe.

why don't you do something productive and vote tarkus and you can even just totally check out of a game where town had pretty much won it before it even started

Tarkus probably the scum game. Let’s go tarkus.

this is a good idea

There’s actually lock scum in your lock towns. I’m gonna use them as my POE.

[Morality]

you're referring to a game where i strategically put a scumread in the townpool because i thought they were a worse lynch for the day order wise and hammered them when they hit l-1... well yeah.

I don’t know what game you’re talking about. I’m not referring to any game in specific, but I could.

There was a newbie with The Worst and Impulse as the scum team, you Called one of them never scum, I called them out as one of the more likely scum teams.

You had hard paranoia on me still thinking that U was doing tinfoil hat theory level of scum play there.

Your default for me is thinking I’m tinfoil hat level theory (which is solid when I actually am scum, I guess)

[Morality]

there's a recent MU game with a player called The Lawyer who was a mafia goon. I hard defended The Lawyer to the best of my ability and pushed on Logic. Logic was mafia PR. The 6/6 votes 50/50 rand hit The Lawyer
Because it hit The Lawyer, I ended up being lynched before Logic and town ended up losing the game because we lynched people in the wrong order.

There’s actually lock scum in your lock towns. I’m gonna use them as my POE.

ok then i'll lynch you and carry on playing the game in the way i would tomorrow

I’d just fake claim a strong town PR, even if I am actually that town PR, and potentially out an actual stronger town PR that way.

For all you know, I’m playing in a way to not get night killed.
Poor move by you.

You see how my scum game is.

My town game is much more complex than my scum game, much more moving pieces.

Being scum is easy.

Playing in a way where people don’t fucking night kill me when I’m town is hard.

[Morality]

i think he is 5th most likely player in this game to be scum

Yes, but some people in your town pool are 2nd and 3rd most likely.

[Morality]

I should be MothafuckingconftownBoon at this point.

ScumMe would have support in some fashion in this game.

[Morality]

Yes, but some people in your town pool are 2nd and 3rd most likely.

no they're really not and i'll defend my poe to the death.

if you want to get into a big ugly 1v1 with me as opposed to voting tarkus who you have agreed has high scum equity be my guest but I'm not backing down.

You defending your POE hard makes it more likely scum is in it.

I’m literally using you as a means to find scum because I know it’s more likely I’m gonna find the scum in your blind spot than you are. This is just how it works. You’ll find scum one direction, I’ll find it the other.

That’s the beauty of how we work whilst not working together.

[Morality]

I should be MothafuckingconftownBoon at this point.

ScumMe would have support in some fashion in this game.

If you were scum, who in this game would support you?

WHoever my scum mates are?

What even is this question?

I literally only go for perfect scum victories, and you can ask people who know ScumMe well. RC is not one of those.

Vedith knows how much I blabber in the scum thread. I hardcore put working with my teammates above all else.

[Morality]

I should be MothafuckingconftownBoon at this point.

ScumMe would have support in some fashion in this game.

If you were scum, who in this game would support you?

Like, I’m actually in disbelief that this question is even asked.

If I were scum, my scummates would support me.

Possibly directly, possibly indirectly.

Nobody is going to support me this game because I’m not scum. Simple.

[Morality]

Yeah, I agree on Creature. I disagree that I'm lower than the townreads. I also disagree on Enigma, he's my second strongest townread.

This is a coasting attempt to keep RCE in the pocket.

[Morality]

If you're town, why wouldn't townies support you?

What is this? Have you not seen how i’ve been posting?

I’m playing in a way where scum want to push me, but they have to wait for someone like RC to do it, so I’m baiting RC into tunneling me here so I can give someone the Third Degree Boon.

[Morality]

the funniest part is i'm literally not even calling you scum. i'm simply stating that my townpool is not fallible

I disagree that I'm lower than the townreads. I also disagree on Enigma, he's my second strongest townread.

i don't think either of u are scum. i don't think rcenigma is scum. both of you are townreads. you're just not literally never scum like my top 6.

I know what you’re saying.

The more confident you are in your town pool, the more confident I am that there is scum in there.

There’s never been a game where we lined up when we were town, and I basically see you do this town pool thing every game and are wrong on one or two of the people.

[Morality]

pushing you seems tremendously unproductive here.

You pushing me gives me control of this game, so in a way, for you it is unproductive, but you pushing me helps me find scum, if that makes sense.

I’ve already explained to you what i’m doing, it’s just gonna come across as completely annoying for a little bit.

You just don’t like that I generally can show you the parts of your stuff that you are wrong about.

A lot of times you’re right about a decent amount, but you aren’t right on everything.

And you don’t have to be. It’s Day 1, and this isn’t a single player game.

[Morality]

This is a 2 player game.

[Morality]

again

my townpool in this game is not wrong and i'll kill you if you try to go after it

this is the end of this discussion

Stop being surface level.

You just don’t want to get shown up by me, when I’m actively trying to work with you.

You’re just being stubborn.

[Morality]

I’m gonna Sheep you today, RC. Idk why you’re being like that. I’m just gonna prod at who I think is scum in your town pool.

We can go with your POE, that’s fine.

[Morality]

again

my townpool in this game is not wrong and i'll kill you if you try to go after it

this is the end of this discussion

Wanna make a bet on this then? Obviously if one of us is scum this would cancel that bet out, but I think you’re town, so...

It could be like, loser of the bet has to put something like “RC is superior to me in every single fashion” for a month, or vice versa.

If you end up being scum, it doesn’t count obviously because informed.

[Morality]

coa is better than both of us combined and agrees with all my townreads except the one where she's missing significant pieces of my reasoning and my 1 scumread

you can go after them and if somehow i'm wrong i'm going to continue reevaluating my reads on the fly but i don't think i will be and if you pursue a lynch on one of them today it won't go well

RC I'll chill on yellow for today and let you do your thing. If I'm right you'll see it eventually. You're not hitting scum if you lynch me though and we should do roomy or creature instead.
UNVOTE:

@RC - I’m obviously gonna Sheep you on the one who just backed off, but I will find scum in your town pool.

[Morality]

can't do bets but at end of d1 let's discuss the explicit terms of the 'gentlemans agreement' on the matter

Huzzah.

[Morality]

The wifom is blinding me.

So you’re saying RC would fall for WIFOM?

[Morality]

Snow, what're your reads?

It’s posts like these that allow Shoshin to project towniness. I’ve looked into some of their games, and they have a lot of analysis that’s genuine and is what town “should do”, but not what town does, if that makes sense.

[Morality]

i'm gonna

take a few steps ahead

i'm not actually 100% sure yellowsnow is town

but we're not lynching them today no matter what, it's a super fucking shitty lynch to take while all of the power townies are alive

UNVOTE: Yellow

Thank you. I’m much more okay with that as a statement.

Yeah, I gave what i think the two options could be for Yellow.

[Morality]

Roomy lynch would give us more to go on tomorrow

How come you want someone who was voting the place you were voting?

[Morality]

tbh I've been ignoring everything morality posts until d2
what is the lie

Going through roomy and Tarkus' iso. This seems like a post regurgitated from a scum pt originating from someone familiar with FL and the fact this is his alt.

Could it be? This is a FL defense by RCE?

I didn’t think this was possible besides in my dreams.

[Morality]

Honestly, though, I’d say you’re the most familiar with me as of late, RCE. Vedith and I haven’t played in a while, and RC and I butt heads because we’re both players who take the town leader spot.

[Morality]

I chainsaw defended you against boats too. N-not that you owe me one or anything.

Hmm. I declare that RCEnigma might be the one trying to pocket Shoshin and now me, but if he is it’s working.

I also declare I am leaning town on him because I don’t actually think it makes sense as scum him to start defending me here.

[Morality]

Yeah kinda hoping you're town so I don't have to actually read RC. What a nightmare.

RC’s easy to read. If you can potentially see a pairing with everyone, and RC is the top town read, and he’s being town read by play and not mechanically, he’s scum.

Elsewise, he’s town.

If you feel you’re being setup by a mislynch somewhere, and not sure where, and RC is soft defending you, but not hard defending you, it’s him.

[Morality]

Honestly, though, I’d say you’re the most familiar with me as of late, RCE. Vedith and I haven’t played in a while, and RC and I butt heads because we’re both players who take the town leader spot.

Also I don't alt hunt so if it wasn't said that this was your alt I would probably be reading you a lot differently.

Yeah, I’m not a secret alt. I wouldn’t be playing the way I am now if it wasn’t known, tbh. People tend to react differently towards me depending on the account I play on.

I talk about myself too much, so if I’m not a completely secret alt, there’s no point in trying to hide it. It also helps me be more transparent.

[Morality]

This sounds very, very specific lol.

Yeah, it’s safe to say I’m slightly insane.

[Morality]

If you can’t lynch him, lynch him anyways, even if you can’t.

[Morality]

I pick COA. Talk about COA, Creature.

[Morality]

That’s a solid Shoshin case. I could see S/S. To be fair, I don’t achtually have a read on Creature.

[Morality]

Yeah, I think I have a weird thing with Creature. He’s my forever mason buddy, and I still think he’s scum at the same time in games.

And when I rolled scum with him, he literally did nothing. Not exaggerating. And I didn’t even get to bus him until late game.

So anytime he does more than nothing with effort, I get frustrated with the idea of him being scum.

He could be scum here. That’s where I stand.

[Morality]

Creature+Vedith scum more likely than RC+Soshin scum.

VOTE: Roomy

Morality has actually been posting a bit better. Especially compared to Creature.

RC-Shoshin aren’t S/S.

Shoshin probably is, though. She’s playing up the people that are giving her town reads for NAI reasons.

[Morality]

Those political reads, though

[Morality]

Votes RCE, then shades the Shoshin/Morality under the radar 1v1.

[Morality]

Actually I think shoshin RCE is s/s. Morality read is independent.

Why do you think it’s S/S rather than just one of them being scum and the other pocketing the other

[Morality]

FL town from last game is abrasive. It's weird how he just retreated and disappeared after getting clowned on by boat earlier.

FL town is abrasive, Morality town isn’t until a breaking point. Then he goes Kira all over.

[Morality]

I dont even remember what account I'm playing on and you have a separate persona that you keep up for the whole game? Pls

Yep. It’s even been stated how crazy different I play on each of my accounts

[Morality]

You don’t need to vote a player for it to be a 1v1.

[Morality]

And of course I’m self involved. I studied Acting/Sociology and work in film.

[Morality]

I’m scummy, but I’m not scum.

[Morality]

@boats: Why are Aura and Vorkuta your top town reads?

Aura is IC, yo

[Morality]

Morality just posted 4 times and 0 were game solving. Neat.

I’m game solving. I’m just not ready to pounce. Give me time. I charge up hard.

[Morality]

Morality just posted 4 times and 0 were game solving. Neat.

Town casing me.

[Morality]

I have trouble gathering reads after I’ve been tunneled because I get reverse tunnel vision.

I get vacuum vision. I’m in the process of trying to reset y reads.

[Morality]

I stopped tunnelling you half the thread ago. Barely anybody has addressed you since. That is not an excuse.

I’m flushing everything out.

And I had both you and Yellow, and then I tunneled onto a weird thing with RC.

It’s fair of me to reset. You’re just forcing aggro.

[Morality]

I don’t see RCE as the scum out of Shoshin/RCE.

[Morality]

To be fair, Creature is like the #1 person on site where people go “Creature’s scum by meta” or “creature’s town by meta” and act like he’s one dimensional without much else on the subject.

I’m pretty busy this next week guys. My project I’m working on is taking precedent, so if I end up being a little scatterbrained here, i apologize.

[Morality]

No.

No.

[Morality]

I don’t agree that the creature wagon is a PL, and I think it’s a bit scummy that that was brought.

Also, DAMN Vorkuta spoutin’ off. Town reading Vorkuta. New scum doesn’t go at RC like that and actually make solid points. I don’t agree with the PL’ing aspect of it, and I’m fine with this RC plays, and RC has every right to fire back like he is, but DAMN. Shots fired.

[Morality]

However, I know from experience that if Vorkuta ever flips scum with me, he’s gonna know exactly how to pocket me, so I’m going to take that town read I just have him with a pinch of salt.

[Morality]

Rolls*

[Morality]

@bird

Would anyone be interested in a tasty yellow or cowbell wagon

Please when you end up never getting shot as conftown realize that it's because of your reads and start listening to other people's

this seems to be familiar https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=2475 (BBT flipped town later)

just enjoy the game and continue doing your reads or whatever even if other people call you bad. I really regretted replacing out of that 1685 as IC (it was my only voluntary replace out) and I think I would have done better than the replace-in just by virtue of being more informed of what's going on.

Oh boon mod'ed that game too!

damn!! We be going back to BT2!!! We’re in our 10th BooneyToonz game now. Oh how it’s evolved. Didn’t have much time to catch up, and was just skimming and saw this. I’ll try and catch up after showering.

[Morality]

RC, you aren’t getting Policied. I’m in this game, why would I ever let a policy on you go through in this scenario?

[Morality]

What's shoshin town meta look like? Does she just go around asking questions but never follows up?

No clue. This looks like her scum game to me, though. She did all this stuff in the scum game of hers I read.

[Morality]

I’ve never really played with Shoshin actively, though.

[Morality]

i meta'd shoshin's normals briefly, and her play is pretty curt compared to previous (both scum and town), which might indicate a lack of time these days. I didn't find anything particularly salient, other than town-shoshin is more likely to follow up with unanswered q's (sample size 2), and scum-shoshin is more interested in trivialities (sample size 1). Given this, I think I more scum lean shoshin this game due to meta?

Perhaps, but it isnt where we are lynching today.

Radiant should be nicer about that too though. I have seen much worse ICs than Aura is playing, depending how flips go of course. At least hes actually following along and not apathetic due to the shit role IC is.

I could totally get behind a Shoshin. Why is “this isn’t where we’re lynching.” Even a thing that’s said here on Day 1.

[Morality]

Creature is not in his scum meta, FYI. I already said stuff about it before, but Creatures not as one dimensional as people are pushing him to be. Even though he’s not in his scum meta, he could still be scum, and vice versa.

I’m not getting town vibes from him at all, and I think he’s doing a lot of stuff just for the sake of trying to get town read, but the pressure on him is what gives me some pause.

[Morality]

I can see both scum and town alike getting aggravated with Boats, though. That means I am town reading Boats.

[Morality]

I think that a lot of you fail to understand what his scum meta actually is

I’ve been scum with him and played against scum him multiple times. He doesn’t do crap as scum until he has to, and even then sometimes he doesn’t even.

To be fair, I do agree he DID fit his scum meta here with that description, but like I said, he isn’t a one dimensional player.

[Morality]

I’m also not actively fighting his lynch, tbh. So I don’t know why i’m arguing or defending him.

I have no read on Creature and he shall forever be my mason buddy in early game.

I’ve told myself I’m not allowed to have a real reason on Creature early game.

[Morality]

I’m being pocketed by Creature.

[Morality]

Replace RCEnigma with COA, and I could see that being the scum team if Creature’s town.

If Creature’s scum then he’s probably been throwing a scummate under the bus. Probably Shoshin

[Morality]

Creature also left Shoshin a way to get “unscumread” so I could see Shoshin/Creature pairing.

[Morality]

I think 690 is a pretty good post if Creature is town. Hypothetical scum!Snow had ample opportunity to take the easy mislynch and didnt. Some of it is bad yea, its a fine line between mislynch bait and scum.

You seriously have RC as scum after last night? I dont see that one at all personally.

So you’re saying ScumRC isn’t capable of pulling the wool over people’s eyes Day 1?

[Morality]

Dont ask stupid questions.

Don’t make stupid comments then.

[Morality]

I think 690 is a pretty good post if Creature is town. Hypothetical scum!Snow had ample opportunity to take the easy mislynch and didnt. Some of it is bad yea, its a fine line between mislynch bait and scum.

You seriously have RC as scum after last night? I dont see that one at all personally.

So you’re saying ScumRC isn’t capable of pulling the wool over people’s eyes Day 1?

Is calling RC a town read a stupid comment? Look at how (I cant say this word) your post is.

It’s naive of you to lock town RC this early.

RC agrees scum him wouldn’t get caught, so putting a player like RC so high as town looks like new town or scum playing a political move.

I’m starting to think you’re hiding behind your tunnels. My town read has dissipated. You are now null.

[Morality]

You know what, i just feel like reaction testing. Im struggling to have any confident reads.

VOTE: Shoshin

[Morality]

Lol at the “trying too hard” comment.

I’m barely trying at all here. You wanna see trying too hard? Go check out my 1k+ post game.

Anyone who’s played with me can clearly see I’m barely putting any effort into this game as compared to normal.

[Morality]

The reason that Shoshin is scum is because I have been staying she was scum for a long time now. You can check my ISO.

I straight up said I was going to reaction test, and voted. I didn’t do anything else other than that.

Shoshin took the bait hard.

[Morality]

@RC - you’re wrong on Shoshin from earlier. She reacted too heavily to my simple naked reaction test vote when I’ve been at least lowly casing her.

[Morality]

Thinking more and more that morality is woofing.

Good. That should make you town read me. This is about the time you generally come after me, so that reassures my read on you.

[Morality]

You know what, i just feel like reaction testing. Im struggling to have any confident reads.

VOTE: Shoshin

We all know the best reaction tests are pre announced ones

They are. I do it all the time. It’s next level reaction testing because the biggest part of the reaction test isme announcing the reaction test.

[Morality]

I scumread Morality from the start of the game. I thought he was trying too hard in the early parts of the game, cluttering the game with tons of pointless posts, and he hasn't actually made any attempt to scumhunt. His recent posts trying to cast me as scum aren't great either, especially since he seems to be doing the typical scum thing of ignoring large aspects of what I'm doing so that he can make me look scummy. Radiant agrees with this read, so Morality is up for lynching as far as I'm concerned.

In addition the the rest of the post that I didn’t quote being ultra pockets and political, meta check me. This is how I play often as town.

I’m not up for lynching. You can try, but you’re just going to get yourself lynched.

You saw a slight bit of pressure, and decided to attack me for it instead of one of the others that steeped it.

I have been explaining why I think you’re scum, and I have explained I don’t have any cohesive reads.

Also, my style is to town hunt, because finding town is just as important to finding scum, especially early game. I’m a late game town powerhouse, and I know my early game i tend to tunnel. I have been commenting on my thoughts when they come in, so me making nothing points is a terrible case.

You say my recent posts trying to paint you as scum were weak, they weren’t me painting you as scum. They were me expressing my thoughts that you were coming off as scummy, but I was giving it the benefit of the doubt, which is why I didn’t necessarily want to vote there.

Your reaction after pressure on you is straight up terrible, and you weren’t even the person I was reaction testing straight up, so you grabbing the bait thinking you were is hilarious to me.

I voted to see who would sheep me and who would react terrible towards it, and for some reason I expected you to just pass by it and not care. That’s how I’d expect TOWN you to react.

You seem like scum trying to pull a Hail Mary on me after the slightest bit of pressure.

[Morality]

CoA is the best town player on this site. She hard townreads Shoshin.
I am somewhere up there and agree

Hard pass on this. The one time I remember playing with COA she tunneled me and I was town, and I know for a fact you have an issue misreading me. I won’t try and say i’m Incredibly strong town early game, but late game I’m next to none. There’s a reason I don’t make it to end game as town anymore. Any time I do I solve the game.

Seriously, you need to stop RC.

My reads are not fucking worse than yours. They’re allowed to be different. I’ve flat out proven you wrong before, and you’ve caught scum in places I didn’t know.

You push me, and you’re just being ignorant af. You know for a FACT that I have caught scum in your blind spot. Now stop.

[Morality]

RC plays games based on player’s past town games because he doesn’t care to read certain players so he allows it to affect his reads.

It’s an incredibly political way of playing. Play the game, not the meta. Meta should be used as a secondary, not a main.

[Morality]

AND COA and Shoshin has just as much a chance to roll scum as anyone else in the game.

[Morality]

Do u realize that CoA had an 80% town winrate last year

One incorrect vig shot in site history

Going against her when she's town is literally gamethrowing and you shouldnt do it

There is literally 1 person on this site I confidently put above myself and that's her

I skew player’s like that’s reads all the time.

She hard tunneled me when I was town. And I didn’t exactly lose many games myself last year.

[Morality]

Morality if you want to do this you will die.

This is the last warning that you get.

We can go lynch scum that is not you or we can lynch you

This is actually a scum claim.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

You won’t win this, you know it, and you’re bluffing.

Now 1v1 me for old time’s sake.

[Morality]

Do u realize that CoA had an 80% town winrate last year

One incorrect vig shot in site history

Going against her when she's town is literally gamethrowing and you shouldnt do it

There is literally 1 person on this site I confidently put above myself and that's her

I skew player’s like that’s reads all the time.

She hard tunneled me when I was town. And I didn’t exactly lose many games myself last year.

Funny that I'm not talking about her read on you

I'm talking about her read on Shoshin

Someone who in the interest of game sanctity I have tried to ignore but I have a near 100% reason to townread

Nice misrep. Why would I Sheep someone’s read on someone who can’t read me?

Give me reasons why they can’t be scum doing stuff like that, not gut reads.

TownRC would have pushed me A LONG time ago.

[Morality]

Vorkuta, Creature....ATTACK!

[Morality]

Honestly, I don’t care about any other games.

You’re pushing a PL after getting mad about being a PL.

[Morality]

The fact that Yellow sheeped you shows that you’re on the scum team.

[Morality]

Hey Morality, what're your reads?

Creature’s probably town for the wagon getting on him.

Still think Boat’s town.

I think you’re town now because I don’t see you and RC as S/S, and RC is basically saying to me “i know you know I’m scum, but you can’t lynch me, so what of it?”

I think RCEnigma moves down to null for me when I start to think of you as town.

Yellow is the scum that sheeped my push on you. DDL is probably town as he seems to be a scapegoat of sorts in the game.

[Morality]

I know I’m crazy and hectic, Shoshin. But this is just how I play. I like to elicit reaction because people are easiest to read when they have reaction.

RC is trying to keep you pocketed this game.

Games I play with RC, I literally do everything in my power to sort him first before anything else, which is why you can go back and look at how I played earlier. That is also why i haven’t been doing too much strong stances. I’ve been trying to see the way the game is being controlled, and how, and it’s RC by town reading the “strong town players”. He’s literally talking you guys up so you town read him.

[Morality]

Not a policy lynch

You're pushing on every single person except the ones who are scum

This is a blatant lie.

I’ve pushed ONE person this game basically. And I literally stated it was a reaction test during my vote.

[Morality]

But sure go ahead and be a super shitty person and use my frustration with shitty and unfair situations against me. It helps me with my motivation. I can't wait to get home at this point.

There is zero possible way you scum read me in this game. And I’m not talking about other people scum reading me, that’s fine. i’m Talking about you.

[Morality]

RC is townier than everyone else in this game except Aura.

By RC’s own words, that’s how you can describe ScumRC as well.

[Morality]

But sure go ahead and be a super shitty person and use my frustration with shitty and unfair situations against me. It helps me with my motivation. I can't wait to get home at this point.

There is zero possible way you scum read me in this game. And I’m not talking about other people scum reading me, that’s fine. i’m Talking about you.

Flavor leaf then: omg RC always scumreads me.

Flavor leaf now: RC would never scumread me


Read all our games he always goes off on me saying I can't read him and that bullshit. How does town him now randomly come to the conclusion that I should be correctly townreading him?

This is a misrep. I felt we got past this, and you should know by now.

He tells you guys to go read our games, except the thing about this is I’m always town in those situations.

[Morality]

That's not what RC said.

He said that when you can’t lynch him, he’s scum. That’s essentially the same thing. I shouldn’t have said his own words, I agree. Don’t be anal about that, that’s just annoying.

[Morality]

But sure go ahead and be a super shitty person and use my frustration with shitty and unfair situations against me. It helps me with my motivation. I can't wait to get home at this point.

There is zero possible way you scum read me in this game. And I’m not talking about other people scum reading me, that’s fine. i’m Talking about you.

Flavor leaf then: omg RC always scumreads me.

Flavor leaf now: RC would never scumread me


Read all our games he always goes off on me saying I can't read him and that bullshit. How does town him now randomly come to the conclusion that I should be correctly townreading him?

This is a misrep. I felt we got past this, and you should know by now.

He tells you guys to go read our games, except the thing about this is I’m always town in those situations.

You're always town in those situations

You're approaching THIS situation radically differently

So
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You're not town in this game gg glhf

Yes, because we’re not in the newbie queue this time.

[Morality]

Hey Morality, can you please not clutter the thread with a pointless back-and-forth with RC?

That's not what RC said.

He said that when you can’t lynch him, he’s scum. That’s essentially the same thing. I shouldn’t have said his own words, I agree. Don’t be anal about that, that’s just annoying.

I didn't say RC is unlynchable. I said he's town. There's a difference.

I didn’t say that you said that.

You guys scum buddies, or are you just that far up his pocket?

[Morality]

i get carried away on my Morality account. I apologize in advance for the next 30 pages.

[Morality]

Go on boon do your thing

You think you're as good at scum as I am? Prove it, show me what you can do in the big leagues. I'm waiting.

What do you mean? I’ve had just as impressive, if not more impressive, scum victories than you.

[Morality]

RC, please don't encourage him to clutter this game with a bunch of crap.

RC is scum. He wants me to clutter this game because he thinks he can make it come off as TvT.

[Morality]

Go on boon do your thing

You think you're as good at scum as I am? Prove it, show me what you can do in the big leagues. I'm waiting.

What do you mean? I’ve had just as impressive, if not more impressive, scum victories than you.

And I add showmanship to my art.

[Morality]

Go on boon do your thing

You think you're as good at scum as I am? Prove it, show me what you can do in the big leagues. I'm waiting.

What do you mean? I’ve had just as impressive, if not more impressive, scum victories than you.

Okay sure. Let's go. Show me what you can do.

We gotta join another game together then because I’m town.

Plus, I’ve played scum against you before. I’ve won every time.

[Morality]

RC, please don't encourage him to clutter this game with a bunch of crap.

RC is scum. He wants me to clutter this game because he thinks he can make it come off as TvT.

I have never once in my long illustrious history of playing mafia gone for a 1v1 with someone like Morality with the intent of it seeming TvT. This is Boon trying to say something that seems towny

Does anyone else feel like I am holding a single punch against Boonskiies to not actually kill him?

Why would that seem townie? If anything that seems scummy. I’m not worried about coming across as townie. I’m pushing you because you’re scum.

[Morality]

Go on boon do your thing

You think you're as good at scum as I am? Prove it, show me what you can do in the big leagues. I'm waiting.

What do you mean? I’ve had just as impressive, if not more impressive, scum victories than you.

Okay sure. Let's go. Show me what you can do.

We gotta join another game together then because I’m town.

Plus, I’ve played scum against you before. I’ve won every time.

Bullshit

Me is not me. My town game is in top form right now
Let's go no more of this crap this is weak and you know it
I expect better from yoi

Then act like your town game is in top form and actually do work. I think your game has been extremely lazy this game, and I don’t think it comes from you as town. It feels like your coasting and making the occasional push to give that old RC feel.

[Morality]

RC's laziness is a town tell in this game.

HARDCORE disagree. TownRC is a try hard af.

Does he make you pay rent in that pocket?

[Morality]

Go on boon do your thing

You think you're as good at scum as I am? Prove it, show me what you can do in the big leagues. I'm waiting.

What do you mean? I’ve had just as impressive, if not more impressive, scum victories than you.

Okay sure. Let's go. Show me what you can do.

We gotta join another game together then because I’m town.

Plus, I’ve played scum against you before. I’ve won every time.

Bullshit

Me is not me. My town game is in top form right now
Let's go no more of this crap this is weak and you know it
I expect better from yoi

Then act like your town game is in top form and actually do work. I think your game has been extremely lazy this game, and I don’t think it comes from you as town. It feels like your coasting and making the occasional push to give that old RC feel.

Oof well

Here you go. Here's your old RC feel. Better?
I don't have a standard for comparison but I'm not impressed rn

Yes, it is better.

[Morality]

No, Vorkuta. These players pride themselves on faking this sorto fury/rage as scum. We are lynching Morality today because he's scum. We're also lynching Morality because RC's town and Morality's presence in the game is keeping RC from playing up to his peak level.

It’s funny you think I’m actually getting lynched today.

Even RC knows that’s not likely to happen.

[Morality]

If you’re town, RC, you need to see that Shoshin is scum.

There is exactly one scum in between you two unless you’re doing some weird pair up gambit thing, but I don’t see Shoshin pulling that off correctly with the posts they’ve been making this game.

[Morality]

I also respond pretty badly to open provocation and ultimatums like that.
Look- I don't think either of you is getting a majority today. Do you absolutely NEED to have this contest RIGHT THIS MOMENT?

We didn't

I tried to postpone this and Lynch the easier scum flips

Morality instead chose to go after people I refuse to lose

So I have to kill him D1 instead of relying on Shoshin/CoA to do my job for me

I do this with you essentially every game.

[Morality]

No, Vorkuta. These players pride themselves on faking this sorto fury/rage as scum. We are lynching Morality today because he's scum. We're also lynching Morality because RC's town and Morality's presence in the game is keeping RC from playing up to his peak level.

It’s funny you think I’m actually getting lynched today.

Even RC knows that’s not likely to happen.

I am 100% sure that neither of us survive the first two days unless I successfully Lynch you D1 and get protected.

You’re right. I’ll get night killed tonight.

[Morality]

I also respond pretty badly to open provocation and ultimatums like that.
Look- I don't think either of you is getting a majority today. Do you absolutely NEED to have this contest RIGHT THIS MOMENT?

We didn't

I tried to postpone this and Lynch the easier scum flips

Morality instead chose to go after people I refuse to lose

So I have to kill him D1 instead of relying on Shoshin/CoA to do my job for me

I do this with you essentially every game.

And I always react the same way? Huh.

So... Why are you scumreading me again?

Honestly, I’m not even sure at this point. I’m trying to figure out the scum in you and Shoshin. One of y’all are scum in each other’s pocket.

[Morality]

And Vorkuta is looking like Morality's partner, coming in to support him with the "Morality isn't getting lynched today, let's put our attention elsewhere" line. Really absurd logic from Vorkuta.

This is basic level thinking. I would never let my partners claim us as a TvT first, and everyone here knows I don’t shut up in scum threads.