Open 753: Nomination Mafia [Game Over!]

[RadiantCowbells]

first

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second

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I have a serious foreword I'd like to get in sooner rather than later

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Is voting demonlord a requirement of the townblock

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Rolled town :3 Volxen and Irre, I hope you guys did too!

VOTE: Demonlord

Ooh.

This could be a wolf post don't agree with the town read

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That said I'm not sure how serious the read was

What confidence do you assign Shoshins read on me?

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I kinda want to wolfread fuscoscos abrasiveness and general demeanor but otoh I've seen a lot of town get mislynched for posting like that

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spicy

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I'm not going to write what I have to write on the phone.

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This could be a wolf post

Why do you think so?

Did you consider that my post may have had some background context behind it?

I absolutely am assuming you are

I still don't get town feels from it

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@RadiantCowbells I hope you rolled town for a change, because you've always rolled scum against me in our previous games together.

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I am town. I feel like you're not already and that saddens me

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@RadiantCowbells I hope you rolled town for a change, because you've always rolled scum against me in our previous games together.

I've literally been wanting to play a game with town!you for like

months

.

Town town town cross my heart and hope to die

I would have had an aneurysm if I rolled scum here

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already substantially +equity town

Uh can we stop voting auro jfc

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indeed

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indeed

@RadiantCowbells I hope you rolled town for a change, because you've always rolled scum against me in our previous games together.

I've literally been wanting to play a game with town!you for like

months

.

This is town post most of the time

Did you really just yuck it?

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There's no reason to have anyone past l3 at this stage of the game

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Ok irrelephant clarify that depends

Do you trust my read on her?

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Do u object on principle or do you think he has wolf equity

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???

It's page 4

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I mean you can

But saying that someone has a weak showing on page 4 is beyond silly

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Can we actually hard limit the number of votes on wagons for now to 4 thank you

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DT your last post is god awful. I'll reserve judgement for now on whether it's AI

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KK maybe DT is just trying to power wolf

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I don't expect you to know that. I expect you to work in this new information to inform your reads better.

You were given the info that your read was objectively wrong and your reaction was to get defensive and say that you are going to ignore meta when it's relevant. That's garbage. If I hadn't seen princess bride I'd have already voted you

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Bussing is the tits. I've absolutely bused people to death - and won.

bussing is for pussies and weak-souled people who can't win the game without faking a town cred by killing their own teammate

Do you say anything that isn't fucking stupid

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Aura feels village feels good man

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too many people just saying, "XXX posts that all the time" on this website to just simply comment on my well-thought out cases and try to shade it.

Except it's not "shade", it's a fact I can back up with evidence that contradicts your "case".

ok start bringing evidence that contradicts other people's "case" on you tbh

What's the case on him

nothing

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Who are you talking to fur

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The hallmark of rvs is wagons based on nothing. Defending it is . . . counterproductive?

I would prefer votes not be placed at all

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No they're not and your reads are shit or you're scum

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No they're not and your reads are shit or you're scum

or your reads are shit and i am right

Says the person who mislynched myself JC and another obvtown player consecutively gjgj

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No DT you can really just die

If this is your town contribution to the thread we are stronger as a town lynching you d1

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I gave you the abrupt no you're being stupid you threw a fit at me and called me scum. Auto did the same you got defensive and said you didn't believe in meta. Kinda feels like you just... don't want to back off this read. So either you're scum or you're derp town whose ego gets wounded by someone telling you you're being dumb when you objectively are and you knee jerk overcommit instead of actually playing in good faith. Not a good set of options

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No they're not and your reads are shit or you're scum

or your reads are shit and i am right

Says the person who mislynched myself JC and another obvtown player consecutively gjgj

literally a different game. literally a lot of it is your atrocious play there too. stop constantly mentioning a dark history for the both of us. everyone else but you blamed you as a major reason for that game

Different game same players and I told you D1 that the path to a win was logic. You owe my reads enough respect empirically to not pull whatever this shit that you're doing is

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And there's a difference between being wrong and being belligerent and obnoxious and wrong.

Sure. When people keep telling you your read is bad your reaction shouldn't be to double down.

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I don't recall saying my town game was hit or miss because my reads are hit or miss and given you've seen three consecutive games where I was town and got fucked over because people refused to townread me when I was objectively towny the dots shouldn't be difficult for you to connect.

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And there's a difference between being wrong and being belligerent and obnoxious and wrong.

Sure. When people keep telling you your read is bad your reaction shouldn't be to double down.

keep pushing me. i am just gonna wait until someone else posts something of value

I'm not voting you. I'm not pushing you. I'm telling you to stop.

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I don't think you're actually reading as opposed to just saying what reactions you think make you look townier

VOTE: doubting Thomas

Now I'm voting you

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I don't recall saying my town game was hit or miss because my reads are hit or miss and given you've seen three consecutive games where I was town and got fucked over because people refused to townread me when I was objectively towny the dots shouldn't be difficult for you to connect.

you said your town game is a hit or miss. this i will not retract ever. you said it. you can always be scum so there will never be a day i will blindly sheep you. stop trying to shade me over stupid things like how i should respect your reads more??? like really?

In response to this

It's not hard to put two and two together that my town game is 'ht or miss' because I can't get people to stop fucking scumreading me and he's trying to use it to attack my reads

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because people refused to townread me when I was objectively towny

If you possess the self-awareness to recognize what should make you look towny, and you're reputed as one of the best scum players on site -- why would this come as a surprise?

Surprised? No.

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VOTE: auroL-2
because pressure is pressure even if i say it out loud

You're voting the single towniest living player

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Don't do that?

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when was the last time you saw the first wagon on a >9 player game go through

I don't think in these terms.
There's no reason to have the vote I'd rather it not be there

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DT is wolf

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lol

I've been calling you out for several pages and you just pointed that out so

can't exactly use that buzzword in this situation

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So again calling me out for omgussing is profoundly disconnected from.the gamestate. His reaction to posts felt profoundly disconnected to the posts themselves. Everything that he is saying does not make any contextual sense when he says it. He is a wolf playing a shitty game who thinks that if he acts like enough of a jackass he might get townread for it.

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Clemency posting is horrible too

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Don't let Clemency try to charisma his way out of being held responsible for this vote on me if I'm not around to kill him for it.

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He is wolfreading me because he knows he can't fool me and he's seen me mislynched several times in the past so

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nobody can resist my devilish charms

No

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I think that you're either scum or high

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shg

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How arrogant and stupid would someone who knows my reputation and has no special talent as town have to be to talk about slam dunking me as wolf in a world where they aren't scum posturing. Anyone?

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If your special talent as town is being townie and you're town here then you don't actually have a special talent. Unless being impressively stand out stupid is a talent?

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Again this is all assuming you're town

I know Amrock likes you, I'm assuming that given that generally he has decent taste in mafia players that you're playing in bad faith as opposed to this being who you are

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you are constantly saying dumb stuff and contradicting yourself with ' i didn't push you/vote you', 'you should have more respect to my town game and just sheep me', 'if i didn't see you scum in brides, i would scum read you'

No contradictions.

When I said that, it was true.
When I said you should respect my town game enough that when I tell you that your reason for scumreading someone is garbage, you don't double down on it, yeah, true.
The only reason I considered you as potential town ever this game is because I've already seen you game throw level perform as town. This is already several tiers below PB

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....no?

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....no?

you are basically saying Amrock likes me and that's why I hope you are not town here as an excuse to push me as a scum

that's AtE

I'm saying that I think that you are better than this.

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And uh

I said no I'm not going to stop. I don't deny ateing that's most of what I do.

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No I told you that you were scum or being a dumbass. That's not pushing you until I decided that you weren't being a dumbass.

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I'm town.

If people say it a lot to you when you're both town maybe you should stop and think about why that is and how it pertains to this game. Don't delude yourself we got mad at you for scumreading Volxen. We got mad at you for ignoring counterarguments in favor of doubling down on the read.

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No I told you that you were scum or being a dumbass. That's not pushing you until I decided that you weren't being a dumbass.

and why do you think this?

You accused me of omgussing when I voted you first, etc. Doesn't feel like your engaging with the thread in good faith and if this is your Ides of good faith I'm not sure how I ever correctly read you as town

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no one is saying that he -has- to be town. both of us are saying that your scumread is bad.

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it's a pretty trashy vote and i think clemency is >rand scum

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i would like to have more respect for your general mafia playing ability than to think that you as town double down on an awful scumread then call me scum as well for disagreeing with you

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wtf!!!

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so pour the champagne

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shoshin still ick

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i have too many scumreads right now

think that there's decent odds all 4 of {rc/auro/volxen/irrelephant} are scum, confidence in order

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err

town

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i actively think all of

shoshin, dt, clemency, scum reading are more likely than null to be scum.

everyone else is nul lfor now

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I might rep out this game has been awful so far and I'm just going to get lynched first nomination phase anyway

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I don't have issues explaining jack shit as scum and if I were scum DT would have been lynched already and you'd be townreading me for it as a collective

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I still don't think you've done anything towny but since this lobby is trash I'll just die and do nothing with it if I go after you so I'm working with you for now.

Don't buy your irrelephant wolfread, not that I'm locktowning him, but we both mind melded on you being >Rand scum simultaneously.

RC town.
Auro is obviously town.

Volxen leaning town but he's still not there.
Grandwazoo leaning pants on head town as well

Still think DT has wolf equity.

Clemency is my absolute top wolf read right now.

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Scum reading also a fairly good bet for scum

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once upon a time scum would respect me enough to not shit push on me.

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I'm not lynching you today

If I have my way we kill

VOTE: Clemency

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We are honestly doing it yeah

I think his reaction to my DT push was scum out the wazoo it's the kind of stuff that he did in red flag all game and the entire using bullshit as an excuse to vote me then doubling down on it because I'm 'swinging at random' is pretty much always scum. That accusation is like accusing people of flailing in that the accusation in and of itself spews him scum and no one actually accuses me of being scum swinging at random, sorry.

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Sorry not no one apparently DT also makes scum cases on me predicated on me being an awful scum player but y'know

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Trash lobby so I will probably get lynched for pushing scum but hey I'm gonna go down swinging

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You mean like I did in 1822 and every other town game I've ever played?

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I'm not lynching you today

If I have my way we kill

VOTE: Clemency

I think that “swinging at random” was an off-hand remark that swept you off your ground, Clemency’s a funny person, I actually laughed when I read what he posted, I didn’t take it as a reason to back his vote up

Remember when I talked about him charismaing himself out of being lynched? This is what I was talking about.

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here we go again

Tada

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No really
'town would never do x'
'well I have done x every game ever and you have personal experience with that so that is a terrible and probably scummy reason to cite for the fead'
'here we go again'

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You don't let me do anything when you're referring to a case on me that's explicitly disproven by your own personal experiences with me

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thing is i'm not being lynched

Probs not again this lobby is trash but I'll Moby dick this situation

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I feel like saying this lobby is trash again

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i have to agree i dont see town motivation in a blank slate player acting how rc is
i like to base my reads off how i know people act usually

i dont see any motivation for town to ever push a lynch primarily using appeal to emotion

i'll only let you get so far with meta
if you use it as a defense for everything people are bound to ignore it

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Exactly what I said

You claim to read people how they are not based off of general tells
You scumread me for using ate
I point out that you know full well that that's how I am
You deflect and say that I can't use meta to defend myself from everything

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And btw the only reason you survive today is that I decide the aggravation of this shitty game isn't worth it

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i said i like to usually, implying that i'm not right now

Good for you.

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Whoops, forgot this was going on. I need to catch up.

Post things

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no your scum meta is never producing any decent content, making opportunistic hop ons to wagons, and deflecting and trying to outcharisma scumreads on you.

which is... exactly what you're doing this game.

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you don't lurk. you active lurk. you never do a single useful thing but people don't want to lynch you because you're friendly and gregarious and outgoing. i've been there. it kept me alive when it was enough.

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you're like... a mini katsuki.

now you're just lying

am i?

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=28679

literal definition of active lurking
what mileage were you expecting to get out of that? do you think i'm too tilted to spent 20 seconds bringing up a link?

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expect me to have top posts with 0 content

clemency in scum pt

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You know if I had this problem, I'd probably do some self-analysis to figure out why I'm consistently scumread. Like maybe my flippant ad homs and appeals to emotion and authority aren't getting me the desired results. Rather than bitch about what a shitty game this is and threaten to flake at L-3 early day 1

umm

i'll give you a hint: it's because i've had several years where i literally never lost games as scum
i've played anonymously. i get insta locktowned as either alignment. don't delude yourself into thinking that scumreads on me are because of anything i'm doing in this game.

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yeah, and then i started lurking consistently

so you say

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spicy ms example

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=77726

guess who is me? i'll give you a hint, it's the one everyone is locktowning on page 1 when i lazyposted page 1.

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or, well. that's a slight exaggeration. only gamma locktowned me p1. but i'm objectively the most townread player the entire game, i was in everyone's coalitions all game, i was the first person to start making everyone's townblocks, etc. then i go back to playing on my main and have to deal with all of this crap instead of breaking apart scumteams.

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and that's in a game with two townies who have like nonexistent scum range: people were more uncertain about NSG than anon!myself. my original reputation on this site was for being unlynchable. etc.

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but sure. blame me for being pissed off that my town game is being sandbagged by something that is literally nothing to do with my towngame itself.
if i was losing games because I was actually not towny enough, because my reads weren't good enough, because I couldn't lead lynches well enough, that's something to work on
But when I'm literally having games thrown because I'm good as scum and I can't stop it and I can't ever have a town wr as good as people worse on all of the above categories than me?

it's pretty fucked up.

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toying with volxen scum, he seems less invested in this game than I would expect him to be and there's not really any smoking guns. still think the reasons given to scumread him were trash.

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Even if DT is scum I'm never being nightkilled because of the setup. I hypothetically have the time and space to deal with things as I need to. I wouldn't want to risk going after DT D1 because I'm less confident on his scum flip than I could potentially be on others, essentially.

It changed pretty much when I won the scum award in 2015 and started getting pseudo policy scumread constantly.

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If I was townread I would be very slow to push on anything but since I'm not I will be lynched relatively soon and no one in this lobby is gonna listen to me after I die so
might as well try to hit something and get inevitably accused of bussing

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no he's not claiming that

he's claiming that after that game which was a few months ago he completely changed his meta despite having completed no scum games since then

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sorry that's wrong. 1 scum game, the one he was with NSG and she roflstomped him.

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RadiantCowbells: (3) DoubtingThomas, Clemenc‬y, GrandWazoo
DoubtingThomas: (1) Auro
volxen: (1) Fuscosco
scum reading: (1) Irrelephant11
Irrelephant11: (1) Shoshin
Clemenc‬y: (1) RadiantCowbells



Not Voting: Demonlord ‬‬‬‬, volxen, scum reading

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in 9 days, 2 hours, 56 minutes

this is an actual disgrace.

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I'd have been trying a lot harder to be townread if I were scum, RC. I'd also be trying to push your lynch.

Shoshin: i will keep you alive to endgame and lynch you in lylo (your own words)
also Shoshin: i will let other people lynch you

now Shoshin: I would be trying to push your lynch today if I was town

you'll have to forgive my skepticism

wazoo i think is superlocktown for reasons

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that said i'm not going after you, it's not worth it for me. if you're scum we didn't lose this game because i didn't push you, that's for sure.

i would already estimate towns odds of winning regardless of your alignment to be in the 20% range

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officially town reading scum reading now i thinkkk

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I think RC saying town is unlikely to win is one of the scummiest things he’s said this game; especially if he really is town who sees his own wagon as being scum-led (like? Just dunk on them and voila, you’re not getting lynched and at least one scum is dead?)

lol

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i put you as my lowest tier townread. i didn't say i townread you for it i said it's dumb of shoshin to call you scum for something that i agreed with at the time.

i'm not at all afraid of your scumgame irrelephant

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but ok let's talk you through why i feel the way i do.

if I said that I was 100% sure that shoshin was scum right now what do you think would happen?

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i'm not saying that i feel that way. let's talk through what happens. what do you think?

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i sincerely doubt that in this lobby my death would lead to shoshins after I flipped. or just about anyones.

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nah. if i have to die for my reads to be taken seriously I'd rather just not try to solve.

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you seem to think that i can dunk on scum, prove myself town, not get lynched, whatever. that's not the case. it's already pretty set in stone that i'm dying today.

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and if i did lynch scum today the same people calling me scum would just say that i'm bussing.

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i'm done sorry this game is unpleasant for my sanity.

VOTE: RC

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i can struggle and get lynched later or just get lynched now without having my soul crushed and i'm taking the latter.

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my goal with the ate was to have more of a paper trail in following games to explain why I'm not taking town games seriously anymore.

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i'm not replacing out.

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no more replacing out in the face of shit scumreads.

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no

policy scumreading me is strictly anti-wincon

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why is town you more interested in getting me to redact my townreads than do something about the fact that i'm at l-1?

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anyways I'm out best of luck.

kill shoshin
kill clemency
probs kill dt

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i take no responsibility for those reads being wrong because i wasn't given a chance to play the game.

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I know you're town sorry this game was shit

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Btw the reason Shoshin is scum is that she made no effort to dissolve the wagon on me. She knew it was going through and she should 100% have known that I was town but she just sat there and let it go through without her.

4/5 of the votes on me aren't mine irrel

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sigh
someone hammer rc
the reason all his games suck is because he keeps playing like this

If you think this is something that town says about someone they think is scum you're bad.

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sigh
someone hammer rc
the reason all his games suck is because he keeps playing like this

I would appreciate if you would back off RC until demonlord has played

This is all you have to say to this?

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Why am I not?

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Shoshin is scum

I have nothing further to say until I'm hammered.

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I feel the same if you're town, dw

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Strongest townie on MS is NSG

I'm just the best scumhunter. Doesn't pay off when I get scumread on policy

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Experience says that the player doing that is town

I'm not I just think you're scum. I'm disappointed that you rolled scum, but not in you. I'm disappointed you did nothing to prevent the wagon on me if you're town.

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And DT you were voting me long before I self voted

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Really

It's optimal to lynch me

Ok shoshin

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VOTE: Shoshin

Voting you just became more meaningful than self voting congratulations

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I'm unhappy. Maybe it's better if I do replace out.

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The solution to me self voting if you're town was to not push a dogshit case on me before I self voted.

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I'm not talking to you I'm talking to DT

Why not Clemency Shoshin?

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I agree. He is pretty awful regardless of his alignment.

But...

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They hurt me.

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Serious question: read on me Shoshin

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If you can't locktown me here without a doubt that means I've been wrong to assume that your track record townreading me means anything about your actual ability to read me. So either you're scum or highly overrate your ability to read me.

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You also called Clemency scum but didn't follow up on it in favour of going for a policy lynch? on DT. You're also scumreading a strong townread in Irrelephant. So, like, no not townreading you. Why don't you tell me someone who is scum so we can powerlynch them? No policy lynches let's kill scum

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You've townread me correctly in the past. Why not now?

Everyone who has consistently townread me in the past has done so one of two ways: townreading me no matter what or townreading me only if I use ate I wouldn't use as scum. Both categories would townread me here. I find it very sketchy that you've townread me in the reck game but can't see that I'm the same alignment here.

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What should I do if DT flips town?

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How much confidence should I have in your reads?

You can't read me anymore, you're saying that DT flips scum, ok

Like if you tell me he's flipping scum I'll follow you. But if he flips town that then? Do I treat it as a guilty on you? Should I be worried that you can't townread me here and are leading on town? I think that I should.

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If I hated this game and townread you I'd just tell you to vote scum while I stop playing the game and would have full confidence scum would all die before endgame. But I don't. And I think you would townread me here.

And I think if irrelephant can deduce this is not my scum game then you should be able to

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Deducing what I wouldn't do as scum is a lot simpler than what i would do as scum and this is always a wouldn't do. Yet you're still hedging.

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For obvious reasons? Right dudette, right.

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A lot of things.

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I see literally no reason to.

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I see literally no reason to.

if you think we are w/w here you should quit mafia

+1

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Why?

You told me you could read me. I believed you.
If I'm not supposed to believe that then that's not on me.

Can we both just replace out and talk about this then because I consider you a friend and nothing in this game is worth hearing this from you

[RadiantCowbells]

If you want the answer that I was under the impression that you understood me enough not to need, I don't purposefully make games unpleasant except under super super niche circumstances and this is definitely not one.

[RadiantCowbells]

My current feelings about being town are also ones I would even absent your stated ability to read me feel that you should understand why I have them, etc.

[RadiantCowbells]

You're the one scumreading me when you shouldn't be. I don't have a read on you for the reasons I mentioned, and now that I'm trying to talk with you about the game you're dodging my questions and siding with DT?

I scumread you because you aren't townreading me when you should

You claim you are refusing to townread me bc I'm scumreading you

Where does this end?

I've offered to.sheep you if you tell me someone is gonna flip scum and judge you by the flip. What am I supposed to do here?

[RadiantCowbells]

I have genuinely counted on your protection to make games worth playing for me. I was hoping you could actually read me so that I could have free reign as town in your games. But the game I need that protection most both game wise and based on my emotional state it's not there. So I think you should have everything you need to understand why I'm town, but you don't.

I would never say what you just said as scum btw and I hope you wouldn't either.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not moving against you anymore but if this was your idea of a great idea for a scum ploy because you can't fool me by play I am going to tear you apart in your future games with me

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

[RadiantCowbells]

Pls don't. I can't right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

Clem is still best of that pool

[RadiantCowbells]

If you're willing to go here as scum you'll win once versus me but only once.

Thats your last warning

Lets lynch Clemency I think

[RadiantCowbells]

Demon definitely has scum equity

[RadiantCowbells]

Demon/Clemency are my 2 major scumreads aorn

[RadiantCowbells]

GL with that

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Clemency

[RadiantCowbells]

Could also do demonlord

[RadiantCowbells]

Less odds of scum flip imo

[RadiantCowbells]

If I voted DT it would be more to get him out of the game

[RadiantCowbells]

Irrelevant what do you think of Shoshin alignment wise jw

[RadiantCowbells]

She is either way overconfident about her abilities or scum

Not entirely sure how to distinguish between the two without using her scum flip here because if this is her scum game I'm 100% sure I can powerlynch her D1 in every future game she's scum

[RadiantCowbells]

i think your approach of the game is really weird. like hoping that a strong player A and strong player B agrees on each other being town so you can sheep them? uhm

You'd have been a better player in princess bride if you sheeped my reads as a good player instead of the shitter Wolfy's

[RadiantCowbells]

You can feel it’s weird but if it’s effective *shrug*

feel like iwould be bored of playing mafia if all i do is try to sheep others' thoughts. tbh. no offense or anything.

This is a bad attitude to take

[RadiantCowbells]

I was wrong on phighter who was scum mvp sue me

[RadiantCowbells]

If he's town this game is still far better off with him gone that is the shittiest iso I think I have ever seen

[RadiantCowbells]

It's not fair that I have to try to decide whether clearly bad faith scumreads on me are town or scum every game

[RadiantCowbells]

What's your read on Fusco?

Volxen have you rolled scum yet

If so link

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not.

[RadiantCowbells]

Still tr Sr.

What about demonlord

[RadiantCowbells]

I want a really long D1 btw

I intend to lynch scum today

[RadiantCowbells]

Clemency especially yeah

[RadiantCowbells]

Calls Clemency a scum lean all game but then when we try to get the wagon over there starts talking about how he hasn't done anything 'that scummy'

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't necessarily agree that there's much link to demonlord but sure I could see it

[RadiantCowbells]

I am not townreading Volxen as of right now

[RadiantCowbells]

wazoo i think is superlocktown for reasons

What were those reasons? What changed your read on him?

Curiosity as to what happened if I called him super lock town

[RadiantCowbells]

Hard gut town read

[RadiantCowbells]

Volxen Demonlord Fuscoso come out and play

[RadiantCowbells]

It's the fact that he keeps calling clemency scum and keeps finding excuses to vote town slots instead.

[RadiantCowbells]

Dw SR I will protect you

[RadiantCowbells]

Just help us find scum

Dw about self defense

[RadiantCowbells]

It's an RC tell.

[RadiantCowbells]

Slow down on clemency

We're using the full time