Fire on the Mountain [Over]

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hello everyone

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cant answer to what my predecessor do, but ill try my best to convince y'all that im town

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(im joking in case anyone takes this seriously and takes out the ms replacement rulebook)

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Man I don't even know what null is anymore @Dannflor
but they are definitely sorted if anything

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Man I'm feeling really bad about Dannflor. Every body is talking about who has the highest scum equity today, while Dann is already focused on tomorrow on how to set up further lynches

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put that lynch as mislynch because im town

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{L0, DDL} + 1 of Maxwell, Vedith, Dannflor

what is this? where's mcqueen

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i have never lost a 3 player lylo (in nonmarathon games) from as far as I remember

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i dont get there a lot, but still, fyi

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Dann thinking about tomorrow is townie.

its townie if mcqueen flips scum imo

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also reiuji's early scumreads

that's her lurker list....

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I still think its Max!

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no

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VOTE: mcqueen

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tbh I am scare about 2 in {Dann RC Max} scum team

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hey boys

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is mcqueen ded already or nah

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get off me you bums

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VOTE: Maxwell

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xtox voting you (enter) is town as fuck regardless of your alignment.

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VOTE: or

Lets end this day fast then.

what the fuck is this. we are this close to going into lylo and you want to get a quicklynch on me before I post?

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@dann my scum readlist is
high likelihood
{formerfish, jingle, maxwell}
low likelihood
{Vedith, liger, dann, anka}

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actually liger could be just open wolfing

but I think gamma usually tries as scum, and lurking all the way through seems more like town gamma

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yuck no

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have you not sometimes felt a surge of motivation and other times felt defeated this game? this is me.

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i felt a surge in my previous post but now i feel defeated again

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don't be stupid. vote scum. im not scum

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im at l-1

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dont be stupid dann is town

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so even if I go.

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ask yourself, why hasn't there been an ignite yet?
9/10 because either conf town power players have wrong reads or conf town power players are scum
1/10 because having more players clutters the game

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regardless, town moving forward should weight less what town power players say because of the 9/10 scenario. I wouldn't even oppose lynching there by LYLO, since IF they are town, they should be doused already, so it's essentially a free information lynch at worst, and at best uncovering deep scum

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ok w.e. now I can go. feel free to hammer, and confirm that message comes from town mindset, not scum trying to pull a sneaky on you

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btw 5882 is the only reason that this setup has any advantage towards town. otherwise, the mechanism is totally scumsided.

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oh I guess dann's reasons for the lack of ignition is similiar to mine. but mine is better so

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i lit gave my reads on the last page

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also that's not even ate. you guys lit call every time a player expresses how he feels about the game ate.

it's not. I'm laying out the thought process behind why my attitude fluctuates so much and how i feel about the game state atm

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is karmeleon == creature or did creature just replace him

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i dont want to be lynched anymore

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idk but not me

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say I flip town. then what? I don't think my flip unites town at all and will put it in more disarray.

the fact that dann's only thought of the case when I flip scum and its associations probably means he's town

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who could be sleeper deep wolf?

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that's yesterday.
+ I have evidence from mcqueens death that a town flip did not help solve at all.

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or why do you only care about deepwolves

do you have no scumreads in the general lynchpool

cause deepwolves are the only thing that prevents a win for me.

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i have reads? liger quoted it.

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I'm nervous about creature and RU

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like I'm pretty apathetic about whether I get lynched, but I want to win, and I don't think lynching me -> win

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creature is not in a posting frenzy as Karmeleon
RU has been lackluster in her reads, and on wagons she shouldnt be on.

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i dont really care about what you think tbh, liger

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remind me why it clears liger, enter?

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Then yeah, he can swing even harder.

idk why but that hurts my feelings man

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i really don't feel like it, liger. Sorry.
I know you're trying to help me here.

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nope. I just don't feel like explaining my reads

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I want to sit tight, not get lynched, sheep town lynch scum, and be invigorated into finding the last arsonist

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why are you not voting me FF

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do you think im town liger

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if not then don't you want me to lie around to make the lynch have less resistance

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well theres 3 arsonists, one is down, one is gone via the "sheep town lynch scum" strat, so there's one left

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that's yesterday.
+ I have evidence from mcqueens death that a town flip did not help solve at all.

Except that it cleared Liger

pinging enter here again

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ff relax you did not get a scumslip

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I would prefer to lynch scum. Not people who just don't care about playing the game and refuse to make my read have more merit.

ok ill bite

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no follow up qs tho

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Like if you are town here. I don't know what else to say to you. I am 100% blaming you for your own mislynch. I think you earned it with what you are doing in this situation and just hoping people come to their senses based on either us being psychics or some inherent townieness I am not seeing.

Let me ask you this:

Why should we be townreading you Or?

I think this post is you trying to absolve yourself responsibility when I flip town. Your whole show of wow I really care about drdo seems kinda fake, so I want a response from enter on why you are cleared from mcqueen

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What is the STLS strat? I guess im just confused because it seems like you are associating this with a person in particular, otherwise we still need to find 2.

???????
Sheep town
Lynch Scum

I dont see whats there not to understand

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i think that town DDL would care more about this game than that.

i think he's scum and given up.

you're right if this is a mini, RC. But this large is super frustrating to me.

I played a large Gundam Seed Mafia a couple years ago, and I think I felt the same.

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What is the STLS strat? I guess im just confused because it seems like you are associating this with a person in particular, otherwise we still need to find 2.

???????
Sheep town
Lynch Scum

I dont see whats there not to understand

I am asking you for the name you would put in your vote when you went to vote for individual #2 in this situation where individual #1 was lynched on day 1 and individual #3 is a known unknown.

That would be the easiest way to explain it to me.

oic. well first i have to figure out where to sheep, and its not helping that all the votes are on me rn

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hmmm that's an interesting turn

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I can sheep Enter, marginally less so RC, and even less Jangles lol

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I feel blueballed by enter

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Ok FF, I know who I'm going to sheep

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I also took it as a or shit my partner might actually get lynched here and I need to pull my vote fast to try and derail it. Look how quickly hes turned down a different avenue with little answers coming from or that would have assuaged his doubts...

this is garbo reasoning. im 80 percent getting lynched, not might actually get lynched

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I'm parking my vote on maxwell.
shoshin said he's scum.
mcqueen said he's scum.
I think he's scum.

This is the best sheep town lynch scum strategy

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Good job, now go play in the corner, adults are talking.

fuck off mate

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dannflor i'd vote ff if you want to start there

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i dont care to explain my reads because I have explained them and they were met with indifference.

what's wrong with going off of dead people's reads? For starters I know both of them are town. And if 3 conf town people have the same scum read, that guy is extremely likely to be scum

and maxwell is absolutley on the table for a lynch today.

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Youre definitely half wrong.

is this your cheeky way of saying you're scum if I flip town?

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go away rc your reads blow
or you're scum
bop kicks in sooner or later

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i think if max flips scum you have equity to be his buddy for trying to shield him yesterday

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Where wouldnt you vote right now?

you saw my read list. maybe start there

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hey dann. I know you can read me. What do I need to do to show you I'm town

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is my attitude swing the only thing that's bothering you?

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yeah but now you played with me a bunch of times, you should know my town game

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today at 10:50 pm, as I am sitting on the couch, the more I talk in thread, the more I realize I don't want to be lynched.

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creature and somebody? Have you actually read Creature's spam

Karmeleon had barely any spam. I feel really bad about saying this cause I recall Creature was townreading me

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He said Ank. But he won't vote there for ~reasons~.
I am gonna beat up ddl.

Reasons: Max is scum. Your Anka vote has as much traction as my Max vote.

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Anka is way less likely scum than max. why is max town, liger

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ok ill go read it

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he did after like D1

yeah I suppose so. Thats why its a deep wolf. Small chance likelihood on a fairly universally town read player

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DDL, I don't know what your scum game looks like. why do you expect me to be able to recognize your town game

you're a smart guy Dannflor try your best

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I feel like if i dont get lynched now ill just get lynched in lylo
Sorry my contents been bad I guess. And sorry mcqueen too I shouldve stuck to my guns on you being towny for defending me
Not super confident in my reads atm but i still think its or/Liger. Esp or

VOTE: or

I guess esp Liger too bc i dont believe he has any conviction im scum. Paranoia abt me flipping town doesnt rly look real

Cant help but be weirded out by Vediths talk w Dann there
He says hes paranoid of Dann but then starts talking to Dann abt why he (Vedith) is town

Ftr im not gonna selfhammer or anything if i do get to L-1 bc thats dumb but i do wonder if just barely staying alive only to be the game winning mislynch would be worse than getting lynched here so i can stop being everyones favourite fallback obvscum slot and the game can actually feel winnable

And also @mcqueen i "sucked up to you" because scum has almost zero reason to defend me here
Whiteknighting me doesnt look good bc im scummy imo and my slots been in shit for most of the game
Thats how Ive been seeing it anyway

Does scum make these posts?
Cause I am not 100% on that.

here it is.

Or, I promised I would townread you, and I am gonna stick with that. But I didn't say I wasn't gonna vote you. So, would prefer if you give me a good alternative here. Cause I want to vote you right now.

please dont tell me this is why you're unvoting me

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sorry why would I not lynch you for this post

you can do whatever you like bud.

i figure there's no reason to appeal to you. you flip your own reads rather than listening to others.

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good. i was going to say it doesn't look too convincing of a thing

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first who else do i need to convince. jingle has been grabbing me by the balls since day 1, and I always felt talking to him was like talking to a wall. I discussed RC already. RU has unvoted me.

so what's left is engaging a dialogue with max, and trying to further gauge if he's scum

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I must

not

use logic to read ddl

ftfy

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ok I clearly missed a lot of crap at the beginning of the day. I can move jingle up to null or null-lean scun rn. I actually believe his self-meta in saying that he'd try harder as scum to direct lynches. However, I'm unconvinced that the "optimal" strategy for scum-jingle is not to just sit back and let town hit itself in the face.

with that said, IF the game starts to become more orderly, and jingle starts to pick up the pace of caring, then he becomes conf scum

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But if I use logic I would vote you again for 6645

then vote me.
And tell me what I need to do to convince you that I'm town.

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I don't want to be a thorn at the back of your neck in Lylo and get lynched anyhow

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I feel like if i dont get lynched now ill just get lynched in lylo
Sorry my contents been bad I guess. And sorry mcqueen too I shouldve stuck to my guns on you being towny for defending me
Not super confident in my reads atm but i still think its or/Liger. Esp or

VOTE: or

This post wasn't really what gave me doubts but I thought the mention of mcqueen was interesting.
Found the "my content is bad I guess" to be sort of townie.

I guess esp Liger too bc i dont believe he has any conviction im scum. Paranoia abt me flipping town doesnt rly look real

Cant help but be weirded out by Vediths talk w Dann there
He says hes paranoid of Dann but then starts talking to Dann abt why he (Vedith) is town

I can see the idea of my paranoia not being real because I wasn't extremely paranoid so I was just spouting thoughts as I was making posts, and I was only trying to initially entertain the idea that I was wrong.

Ftr im not gonna selfhammer or anything if i do get to L-1 bc thats dumb but i do wonder if just barely staying alive only to be the game winning mislynch would be worse than getting lynched here so i can stop being everyones favourite fallback obvscum slot and the game can actually feel winnable

Has a town kind of thought process to the situation of getting lynched.

And also @mcqueen i "sucked up to you" because scum has almost zero reason to defend me here
Whiteknighting me doesnt look good bc im scummy imo and my slots been in shit for most of the game
Thats how Ive been seeing it anyway

This addressing of mcqueen I thought was what gave me the most doubt. I don't think this would have been posted if Max was scum.

Here

I'm going to respond to this. I think you're right it could be town. Or it could be a prepared statement from the night. Or it could be how scum is feeling today facing a potential lynch. What is needed to be done here (I guess I'll do it) is to thread how this feeling, is it consistent and flows smoothing with Max's attitude yesterday. I'm not sure, cause I guess I missed 1/2 the pages and what not, but I'll promise to do it tomorrow.

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Actually I'll just do it now - before I lose motivation for this game again

@ Rei: Maxwell

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Spoiler: Some Max Posts Before Day End

this isn't what I remember seeing from scum!jingle both times I've seen it, but at the time I don't really trust my ability to read him consistently

FA was pretty town though

I cant read FA lol
if youre not worried im not that worried
Mightve just been Jingles last readlist rhat pinged me bc dismissing me as "low impact who replaced low impact" feels like an easy way to mislynch me later w/o interacting w me even tho ive been rly present

So being set up for an endgame mislynch is fun
Hows everybody doin im at work

Ank is Jingle confident town y/n

My worry rn is Jingle scum if its anyone else i think theyll be caught bc theyre in the pool
And the rest is town
Decided Xtoxm is town too
So if Jingles town i think its chill

Bad feeling that mcqueen will flip town bc hes hammered so theres no point in fucking w us now

Also I forget who but if youre wondering why Anks town check all her interactions w Eagle like its a lot and its towny
+ coming outta that game we keep talking abt her attitude to this one makes perfect sense

Im ok w lynching all three like
Who else is scum realistically
Everyone says vedith is town so w/e
Im going to be alive and not going to lynch RAS
and tbh im not townreading Jingle but i dont think scum him chooses now to completely disengage w the thread in favour of a reread

What if its me and dolittle and uhhhhhh somebody more towny in lylo together
What then
Im more charismatic and therefore a victim of paranoia induced quickhammers
The more you know

I'm sorry are we playing some strange form of THROW NAMES INTO A BIN AND PULL 'EM OUT RANDOMLY?
Because if so, why was I not invited, and what are the odds of xtoxm drawing the same list of names that ddl drew?

Idk it does seem to jive w xtoxms reads so far which have been p out of the norm for a while
Excepting the scumreads that xtoxm already excepted

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I might be biased, but they don't look that poignant. In fact the attitude I get is, hey it's kind of funny that I'm potential mislynch bait. It doesn't translate into the next day boo hoo I'm so sorry Mcqueen bro.

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Liger what do you think about this?

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Btw Enter is town, if that needs to be iterated again. Like no way he makes that mcqueen is scum monologue at twilight right before mcqueen flips if he's scum.

He is not a candidate for the deepwolf

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And tell me what I need to do to convince you that I'm town.

Hey Rei

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I want to take 6666

This is me taking it

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Tomorrow I'm a bit short on time. But I will be back in 24hrs. I'll try harder pinky promise

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hey liger comment on my 6661

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ive only read page 300 but i recall a couple pages ago you were saying Liger is conf town wrt mcqueen, Enter?
Not excited to wade through 1000 posts fuck

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yeah i cant do this. not tonight

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hey look we got scum

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i should be obv town at this point considering ras's push on me

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maybe that means i can do nothing again since i just dont want to be a negative utility for town and get mislynched

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maxwell is probably last scum?

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what happened to your anka deep scum read liger

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I am not a happy camper rn.

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VOTE: maxwell

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rc what's your lynchpool for today

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VOTE: rc
vanity vote

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probably a good play too

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functionally over for which side, Jingle

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me saudade. dont listen to the imperialist propaganda

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vla till the end of the week

. but I'm probably lynched by then :<

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please don't lynch me

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i don't see a potential counter wagon. I think Max is scum but there's no traction on him whatsoever

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I don't think xtox is scum, and if I vote him instead, there's no one to keep scum!rc in check

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I really think we should lynch rc though.
at best he's scum, and then we can lynch max

at worst its just losing a day since if he's town he's definitely doused

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no its not jingle. you aim for a doused player over a universally scumread player if you think that the scumread player has less than half scum equity compared to the doused player.

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especially my read on max-scum is correlated to rc scum, trying to get a lynch on rc is definitely the correct play on my part.

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case him?

well town rc would try harder in preventing lynches that he thinks is town, rather than ex post flip going, hey I didn't think these flips would turn out scum, but I'm still like 1/2 here since I only led 2 lynches. It aint my fault you guys are dumb.

+ rc has been open hard defending max since like day 3.

and that's me reading like 1/3 of the pages. now tell me in why you DONT think max-scum is correlated to rc-scum?

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But the argument that we SHOULD lynch him because he's probably primed is dumb.

you're right jingle, targeting rc for the sole reason he's primed is a bad play.
but if he's primed, he should have a less threshold to be targeted, as i iterated before. this is not a bad play

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VOTE: or
here let me help you narrow down your poe list so you can think better tomorrow.

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at mylo tomorrow you would have to respect that targeting rc is the best move since then it would be a free lynch.

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let me bold this:

AT MYLO LYNCH SOMEONE WHO IS LIKELY DOUSED SINCE ITS FREE.

ok

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dang other than vedith all the players that somewhat town read me replaced out

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who do i ATE to

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hmm i didnt expect to be hammered this fast

darn

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meh, at least people will think about it tomorrow so that's a plus

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im not scum.

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So tohru you are saying everytime I'm about to get lynched I should just replace out. Duly noted for next time. thanks

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.... so now I'm dead suddenly jingle thinks im genuine.

very cool.

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is jingle ank possible?

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where their whole interaction about jingle's activity level is just theatre so jingle can continue to coast