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Sheep me, I'm right.In post 19, MariaR wrote:I'm not scum. I'm a perfectly innocent towny nya! Your logic isn't that bad though so you can have a towny point nya.
Pretty good, we're lynching RC. Join us.In post 23, EeveeLution Army wrote:hello all hows it going
I'm excited. I like mafia. It is fun, even when I'm bad at it. Oh well, always learning, right?In post 27, Chara wrote:i'm okay Enter. pretty tired. yourself?
Maria because she also has a vote and because she's Maria.
Is there something special I should know about Maria? I've never played with her before.
If this was written in Arabic I would understand it more.In post 32, Prince of Renais wrote:Also it's a shame the groomsbride is a whore
Seems in keeping with your town meta.In post 42, Vedith wrote:I'm in training today so I won't be posting.
One of the following statements are true.
I 're rolled my role in the same game.
I once punched a gorilla
In post 358, My Other Head Is Scum wrote:Damn, didn't see the game started.
I'll get on this tomorrow. I'm going to bed now.
-Vedith
The town head
what's boring about rc wagon? :'( I have history with him, you know.In post 81, Chara wrote:thanks for the support. love you too. <3In post 77, Enter wrote:just cuz it's not on me doesn't mean it's not a good wagon :3
Unless ur doing what i think ur doing in which case i fully and 100% support it and i believe in you full heartedly
and, back to Enter being scum. i think he'stryingfor the wagon thing with RC, but it feels anemic, like he's only paying lip service to the idea.
RC wagon is boring, Enter does like wagons for the sake of wagons, but i want him to chomp at the bit more.
I actually have history with almost everyone here! Exciting!
Also do please tell me if you're doing what I think you're doing.
You can choose to not tell me, but then it will be less believable when you do come out and say it.
He is!In post 87, Chara wrote:oh, and Vedith might be scum with Enter here.
Renais: deep. :> so why is it you've joined me?
pedit: aw, i love secret neighbourhoods. why'd you out it?
peditx2: and no hood for Chara!
Secret neighborhoods are great until you learn they're not so secret!
Don't worry there's actually a player list at the top of this one.
@everyone on RC w/ me, I was wrong, Varsoon is scum!
Thank you!In post 96, Chara wrote:i do like it. it's very energetic.
It's a bit chirpy, though. My fear is people not taking me seriously. I've found so much that mafia is such a giant game of balancing everything: if you're to serious people scumread you for pushing an agenda/being tryhard, if you're not serious enough, people don't listen to your reads or they scumread you for not taking the game seriously. Ugh! I'm so bad at balancing things!
I like my vodka aunt. She's always drunk thoIn post 100, GuyInFreezer wrote:Vodkaunt
Gimme some time I have a master plan!In post 102, RCEnigma wrote:I liked serious enter, heart on his sleeve enter. But I appreciate that he realizes he can't Lynch me. At least not today.
In all seriousness I feel very confident in my ability to read you, so I have no qualms about letting you live for a bit longer.
I don't know, I didn't apply that much thought to it, TBH. Seems plausible enough. Why would someone claim having a neighborhood if they don't have a neighborhood?In post 105, RCEnigma wrote:Do you believe prince, Dunn, mariar have a neighborhood?
Ew.In post 106, MariaR wrote:Why is this a relevant question? Nya~In post 105, RCEnigma wrote:Do you believe prince, Dunn, mariar have a neighborhood?
VOTE: enter
VOTE: MariaR
Serious.
@Pink Ball
You didn't want to play pretend with me?
You didn't want to play pretend with me?
Scaredy cat :3In post 137, Chara wrote:L-3 is probably as far as i'm willing to go for a fake wagon.
i'd go further, but i'm busy all day and i don't trust towns to be cautious. :>
UNVOTE:
Enter's probably town.
It's a reference to a game that happened 3 years ago, I doubt it actually means you're scum. Maria, on the other hand, isn't being consistent, which isn't necessarily a good way to start off a town block, is it?Varsoon wrote:I'm scratching my head over why town Enter bolds that I'm scum, then walks away to a vote on MariaR on the next page.
You Could Be Anyone IV. You, me, Shiro, and Vedith were all there, so I thought it would be interesting to bring up again.In post 140, Varsoon wrote:What game?
I've got bad terrible awful memory.
VOTE: MariaR
I can support you on this, though. Maria often looks way more strikingly town to me, idk why.
Fair enough, after Prey. *shivers*In post 142, Chara wrote:i took his comment about you to be a joke.In post 138, Varsoon wrote:I'm scratching my head over why town Enter bolds that I'm scum, then walks away to a vote on MariaR on the next page.
and Enter, who are you calling a scaredy cat? i'm simply a pessimist! :>
How do you feel about Maria?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p7448334In post 143, Varsoon wrote:I still don't get the purpose of it.
Look at the quote from earlier in the thread and click the link on it.
Sorry, I literally picked the two names above me on the front page!In post 144, Chara wrote:Enter, next time pick me for your fake neighbourhood! especially after i try another wagon on you. then i can pretend to yell at you for outing it.
pedit: the purpose of a joke?
I'll know for next time, though, you've shown promise today!
RCE asks me if I believe in the neighborhood counterclaim. Maria responds like this:
Pretending to not care about the fact that there's a counterclaim to her neighborhood, but votes me in the processIn post 106, MariaR wrote:Why is this a relevant question? Nya~In post 105, RCEnigma wrote:Do you believe prince, Dunn, mariar have a neighborhood?
VOTE: enter
Discussion is over whether or not the other neighborhood matters as far as alignment is concerned. She says it doesn't while voting the person who claims to have an another hood.In post 162, Shiro wrote:Where exactly are you basing that there is a counterclaim? I mean the game is 100% randomized. There is no such thing as counterclaim.
HEY! You make me a you make me a MARIA! MARIA!
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3 months in the hole, that's the longest sentence I ever heard of
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I want everyone's reads on Maria Please if you haven't provided already, and then let's push this through.
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That's where I'm trying to get us.
Do you have anything on anyone?
The way I figure it, if you haven't sorted her yet, her wagon isn't a bad place to do it.
Do you have anything on anyone?
The way I figure it, if you haven't sorted her yet, her wagon isn't a bad place to do it.
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Cool. Put your vote on someone else then either to sort or cuz you want them lynched over maria, pls.
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Vote someone you don't have a read on then. RVS is vote people you don't have reads on stage and if you don't have reads you're still in rvsIn post 241, RCEnigma wrote:Townleans on Vedith and Chara. No scumreads.In post 236, Enter wrote:That's where I'm trying to get us.
Do you have anything on anyone?
The way I figure it, if you haven't sorted her yet, her wagon isn't a bad place to do it.
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Like are you just waiting for people to do things? How am I supposed to track your thought process and sort you if you're just sitting there waiting for things to happen.
A bunch of people sitting around waiting for things to happen is how we end up with a stale gamestate.
A bunch of people sitting around waiting for things to happen is how we end up with a stale gamestate.
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I mean ... confusing day 1 is kinda ok, IMO, I'd just rather people TRIED day 1 even though it's roughIn post 245, Shiro wrote:I kinda agree with you there but at the same time day 1 is when I never have a clue. I will make a reread and see if 8 can get a grip.
cuz that's how you set up the other days to be good.
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Nice! I like this.In post 247, Shiro wrote:Actually
Vote:RC Enigma
His lines about the neighborhoods rub me the wrong way.
Yeah, in the newbie game where you were scum, lol.In post 249, RCEnigma wrote:I'll change my vote when I see something scummier than a double claim. Of anything it needs to be policy lynched, I'll never see it as town.
Besides that I am always conservative with my votes. You saw that in our newbie game, it isn't an alignment indicative thing I just don't generally vote swing.
See? Now we're getting somewhere.In post 250, RCEnigma wrote:Ok, which part of my neighborhood theory? It doesn't hold any weight since there is only 1 real neighborhood. But humor me.
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1. I've seen all town neighborhoods: Especially considering there is only one neighborhood of 3, it is very likely that you would know from your scum buddies that they aren't in any neighborhoods => you say safe to pushIn post 253, RCEnigma wrote:Furthermore it absolutely makes sense that we would have a higher chance of picking 1 scum from 6 slots. Any town in those 6 slots can eliminate themselves and the probably 1 of the other slots being scum is 1 in 5 and up to 50% likely from their point of view. As opposed to hunting between 12 other slots which has less than a 10% chance of being scum in isolation. I did 0 actual math these are just approximations but you see my point.
Also if you really think that's scummy then what is my motivation there? If my partner(s) is in one of the proposed neighborhoods it's weak distancing at best. If they aren't then I'm simultaneously spewing 6 slots as town. I may not be good at playing scum but thats a disrespectful estimation of my play.
2. You're using bad math/bad logic again, like you did in newbie when you were scum.
{scum:town} in neighborhood is just as likely to be proportionate to {scum:town} in game, or completely non-existent in the neighborhoods, given that it's happened before. You're pushing off a logical fallacy
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Considering the fact that I don't roll scum, I've only replaced in, and both times I did replace in I was caught immediately upon posting, people have a remarkable respect for my ability to play scum, lol.
I'll take it, tho!
VOTE: RCE
I'll take it, tho!
VOTE: RCE
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If that flips scum I'm considering the people I said were in my neighborhood as town as well as the people in PR's neighborhood
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In post 299, Prince of Renais wrote:holy fuck enter i didn't want to have to do anything this game but i would consider it a personal affront, with the scumgame that you have played so far, to not lynch you d1.
VOTE: enter
You're hurting my feelingsIn post 301, Prince of Renais wrote:enter is scum and transparently so.
you think my scum game is this good?
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He's joking.In post 308, Pink Ball wrote:Explain?In post 307, Prince of Renais wrote:i demand more votes on enter or i am going to be very unhappy.
Why do you think RCE is town?In post 315, MariaR wrote:Like he's playing with a pretty blatantly clear scum agenda nya~ I don't feel comfortable voting RC/enter because if wisdom is scum and I think he is. I don't think RC/Enter are scum nya~
pedit: That's false but if you wanna keep pushing that idea that I can't read dunn go for it. nya~
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I keep trying to read slaxx like I read Varsoon since his avatar changed.
really wanna vote PR for the shenanigans but I know it's prolly not AI for him, prolly town if anything, honestly.
really wanna vote PR for the shenanigans but I know it's prolly not AI for him, prolly town if anything, honestly.
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I think PR is playing to his town meta. Disagree with read on chara, but playing to a town meta. :/
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your respect for my town game is overwhelming.In post 438, Sigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:I feel like that first sentence is like three inches beyond a possible manufactured LAMIST comment and probably means Enter is town.In post 435, Enter wrote:I keep trying to read slaxx like I read Varsoon since his avatar changed.
really wanna vote PR for the shenanigans but I know it's prolly not AI for him, prolly town if anything, honestly.
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Boring.In post 441, Chara wrote:i'll trust you on this if you're very confident. what do you think of Eevee?In post 437, Enter wrote:I think PR is playing to his town meta. Disagree with read on chara, but playing to a town meta. :/
(don't take this to me i'm not still scumreading Renais.)
I'd push it for lulz and cuz honestly I like the thought that things that don't try don't make it to lylo.
it will start to try or it won't make it very far :3
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a little sometimes yes.In post 443, Sigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:Okay
I actually might buy that Chara
I don’t know Prince. Does he confbias as town?
i haven't seen anything from him that makes me think he's scum
although i don't feel the most confident in reading him, i think he's better left as town for now, lynch later if his reads are bad
ugly, but he's had ugly conclusions before.In post 445, Chara wrote:it's not the shenanigans i'm scumreading. if it's not AI, what do you think of his conclusions?In post 435, Enter wrote:I keep trying to read slaxx like I read Varsoon since his avatar changed.
really wanna vote PR for the shenanigans but I know it's prolly not AI for him, prolly town if anything, honestly.
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or worse.In post 453, Chara wrote:but if he's town they'll get better?
probably better. if he's town they should get pretty good pretty quick.
bad conclusions don't always lead to bad lynchesSigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:Enter
Your last post is kind of a contradiction.
He’s had bad conclusions as town before but lynch him if his reads are bad?
lynch him if he pushes a lynch and it's not good
also if I die tonight for some reason over him you should probably also lynch him
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he doesn't have very much egoIn post 457, Prince of Renais wrote:scumreading me at this point in the game makes you an amazingly bad player in and of itself.
confronting him head on/scumreading him for anything other than his reads will never lead to him scumreading you regardless of your alignment
he isn't paranoid of everything
/s, if it wasn't obvious
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talk to me about eevee
never played with them
didn't see anythign convincing in their iso
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VOTE: blackjacks
only cuz you asked nicely
only cuz you asked nicely
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The newbie I was in he was using bad numbers to justify bad play as well.In post 493, Sigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:I want to say maybe RCE is town and just insanely bad with probability
And Shiro kinda town too. Those reads would be maybe in between Vedith/Prince and MariaR/PB
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No, he flipped scum.In post 496, Sigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:I’m assuming he flipped town there?In post 494, Enter wrote:The newbie I was in he was using bad numbers to justify bad play as well.In post 493, Sigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:I want to say maybe RCE is town and just insanely bad with probability
And Shiro kinda town too. Those reads would be maybe in between Vedith/Prince and MariaR/PB
Because it really looks like he’s trying to solve. And I don’t mean to be patronizing in saying that but there’s no nicer yet clear way to say it I don’t think.
In fact he looked a lot like this, used a lot of numbers, tried to look like he was solving, and convinced me he wasn't scum in the process. :/
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Game link: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=78318
Having trouble finding what I'm talking about in the ISO skim, I know he was definitely saying things that were just wrong but had the right twist on them to make them sound right...
I'll find posts tomorrow, if I can't, I'll drop it.
Having trouble finding what I'm talking about in the ISO skim, I know he was definitely saying things that were just wrong but had the right twist on them to make them sound right...
I'll find posts tomorrow, if I can't, I'll drop it.
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What is this post.In post 516, RCEnigma wrote:Fwiw I don't think Enter really scumreads me, but he won't townread me because he'll be afraid he's losing to scum!me again.
I read you right. I had you as scum almost all game. We lynched wrong because I went back on my reads like the spineless twat I am.
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VOTE: RCE
Dismissive is another good way to describe your attitude towards me that game.
@PR TBH I don't really know blackjacks but if what you're saying is true you might be overthinking it. Ofhrz has been active elsewhere on site for the past little while now. Might be scum team is just counting on the wagon to fall off because of no content to it.
Dismissive is another good way to describe your attitude towards me that game.
@PR TBH I don't really know blackjacks but if what you're saying is true you might be overthinking it. Ofhrz has been active elsewhere on site for the past little while now. Might be scum team is just counting on the wagon to fall off because of no content to it.
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And we push this if BJ flips townIn post 649, Sigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:This game has a heavy feel of a lot of TvT
I’m not gonna be super surprised if the scum falls in like the bottom 5 posters.
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In post 607, Sigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:VOTE: Blackjack
Cool. If this flips town you shoot Dunn though. If it flips scum shoot me. That's fair.
In post 624, Sigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:What happened to BJ?In post 623, Prince of Renais wrote:What happens if we do this
Most people agree this is scummy including yourself right slaxx
I’d vote Eevee but I think my preference is Dunn->BJ->Eevee
In post 625, Sigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:Of course that changes with flips.
For example a Dunn scum flip makes me head straight for Eevee.
In post 627, Sigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:Cool, do that then.In post 626, Prince of Renais wrote:You've been calling Eevee scum all day phase
If you back out of voting Eevee I let town Lynch whoever then strongman vig you at night.
I’d rather you shot me than someone else.
I want to know why Eevee over BJ now. Explain.
In post 632, Sigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:That makes sense.In post 630, Prince of Renais wrote:I'm going for someone whose scumflip spews you town.
The part about BJ being replaced doesn’t because that doesn’t change the alignment.
VOTE: Eevee
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dunno why 625 is in there
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I wouldn't necessarily call it reliableIn post 656, RCEnigma wrote:Ehh you were pretty much IC we had to play around. Still don't think you have a reliable read on me based on one game I repped into.In post 650, Enter wrote:VOTE: RCE
Dismissive is another good way to describe your attitude towards me that game.
@PR TBH I don't really know blackjacks but if what you're saying is true you might be overthinking it. Ofhrz has been active elsewhere on site for the past little while now. Might be scum team is just counting on the wagon to fall off because of no content to it.
but to say this is different than your game there would be disingenuous, no?
I said IF it flips townIn post 657, Sigma Sapphire Slacks wrote:I don’t get your logic Enter. Are you townreading Dunn and BJ?
and no I'm not townreading them
I just think your interactions with that wagon were weird.
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In post 663, Blackjacks wrote:Wisdom feels town, specifically for the post where he was asking about motivation
interaction feels fakeIn post 664, Wisdom wrote:prince vote is boring. Get on actual scum.
I wonder why not...In post 692, Wisdom wrote:seriously?
you can do better than that
and why am i not in the crowdsourced townreads if you have that kind of thing
Spoiler: crowdsource
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ISO of dunn (1 person) vs Blackjacks (3 people) makes me like dunn more (barely) although I know none of the people in any of the wagons
chara talk to me specifically about dunn
or join me on rce
actually i don't know that i like rce today
rce townspew pls
chara talk to me specifically about dunn
or join me on rce
actually i don't know that i like rce today
rce townspew pls
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you're not helpfulIn post 708, RCEnigma wrote:I spew enter as town.
VOTE: ELA
reads pls
@everyone
if you're townreading this rn
pls tell me why
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VOTE: RCE
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In post 886, RCEnigma wrote:The only way you aren't scumtelling isnit you're actually Elsa lol.
What does this mean?
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Ah. Not making any comments on who PR is,
But the play is NAI.
But the play is NAI.
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You're turning into yourself with a shitty towngame? I'm not following.In post 897, RCEnigma wrote:I'm literally turning into RC just with a shitty town game.In post 895, Prince of Renais wrote:Here's the point I'm trying to make btw
How serious does pretty much anyone take it if someone says yo I have this 100% meta tell and it says your scum you die now
Especially me being some random
I don't think town RCenigma takes it all that seriously
Where as scum he's scared and wants to discredit it hence the fake yada yada yada yada.
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Probably town indicative, if anything.
I follow the process and could kinda guess at what he was doing as he did it, so I'm not surprised it turned this way.
I think I somewhat agree with the results? I've run similar gambits before but it's been so long that I'm not sure how reliable this specific one is.
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I wanna look at this more later
I'm not entirely convinced on it ATM.
VOTE: Blackjacks
I'm also fine with Maria. I haven't seen anything townie from that slot yet, really.
I'm not entirely convinced on it ATM.
VOTE: Blackjacks
I'm also fine with Maria. I haven't seen anything townie from that slot yet, really.
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Chara where are you?
Talk to me.
Hmm...
Actually
VOTE: Vedith
Talk to me.
Hmm...
Actually
VOTE: Vedith
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Pretty sure Shiro is town.In post 909, Prince of Renais wrote:That unvote sketches me out a lot.
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I like the pressure she put on Maria earlier
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don't like this follow through
In post 876, MariaR wrote:I don't need protection because I'm not a lynch option for today. I just helped Shiro post decent content for once. As I knew they would considering they're the only one in the game who knows what my role is. How confident are you in this 'tell' of yours.In post 874, Prince of Renais wrote:MariaR I want to protect you
But I can't unless you help me with RCE
In post 907, Enter wrote:I wanna look at this more later
I'm not entirely convinced on it ATM.
VOTE: Blackjacks
I'm also fine with Maria. I haven't seen anything townie from that slot yet, really.
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Oh. Why?In post 919, Prince of Renais wrote:In post 910, Enter wrote:Pretty sure Shiro is town.In post 909, Prince of Renais wrote:That unvote sketches me out a lot.
I meant yours.
I saw something that was different from scum!RCE, so I'm giving space for now.In post 920, Prince of Renais wrote:RcE is not town posting at all
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You haven't townposted yet this gameIn post 924, MariaR wrote:Oh you did? Sorry that reasoning was so weak I thought you had more. (I know that sounds sarcastic but I'm srs)In post 917, Enter wrote:I...In post 916, MariaR wrote:Why don't you say why it's scummy Enter.
did?
Your LAMIST play earlier was disgusting
Your neighborhood inconsistency was bad
And your vote switch as soon as it appears like you might actually be a target is dirty
I really don't feel like I need more.
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VOTE: Maria
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We're lynching Maria
Put your vote on the wagon.
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not even going to respond to 1 because it's dumb "guys i'm town" what an argumentIn post 932, MariaR wrote:1) What do you consider 'townposted' although I think this isn't a useful question considering. Yes, yes I have you're clearly just not reading my posts.
2) What LAMIST play? I never said the play was towny nor did I try and act like it was. You're just making assumptions after I blatantly said it wasn't. I didn't say anything about trying to get cred from the play
3) ???? I never said I was in a neighborhood don't know what you're talking about
4) Who said I was a target? Shiro. If you were reading my posts you'd see I was waiting for Prince to conf the tell or not. He did, so I voted RCE As I said I would
jeesh that was bad
2 lol u don't have to say a play is trying to look town for it to look like you'er trying to look town mafia is a game of assumptions get w/ the program what did u achieve from the play if it wasn't
3 not saying u did say you were in a neighborhood
4 i said you were a target when i saw your crappy play, and if u seriously think pr was confing the tell you're not reading close enough
5 ur arguments are dismissive
ask RCE about dismissive arguments pls
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nice responseIn post 933, MariaR wrote:Nope.
ur dismissiveness is really selling townreads on u, keep it upIn post 934, MariaR wrote:I don't know why you act like you have more influence in the thread than you really do enter.
I had a post redirection that 2 people in this game knew about. Like my role is public information to them of course the test was for reactions so *shrug*
"i don't care how people read me i promise that was town other people know it was town so it's town i promise don't push me"
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like actually
oen of the ways i had rce down as scum in the other game was every time i'd talk about how he's scum he'd respond w/
"we can't take enter seriously"
"enter is vi"
"enter acts like he has more power than he does"
oen of the ways i had rce down as scum in the other game was every time i'd talk about how he's scum he'd respond w/
"we can't take enter seriously"
"enter is vi"
"enter acts like he has more power than he does"
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you're obviously not followingIn post 938, MariaR wrote:What I achieved from the play you ask? I got a null slot to start posting I'd call that a success. It worked out pretty well.
Then your neighborhood fact makes no sense.
I was never a target in the first place. My play isn't crappy get your head out of the clouds you're not as influential as you think. If you wanna try and preach my lynch go for it. You're not gonna get anywhere
it's kay i don't need u to
just sit and look prty pls
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it's true mafia was easier when i was the only one who had to say "this is scum team" to get a win out of it...In post 943, MariaR wrote:Do you really think you could get me lynched? Because A lot of people tr me right now so you're better start explaining a bit more. Right now you're not gonna do anything.
I don't really care if you townread me or not I already think you're town so if you wanna keep this up we can, but you're just making noise and to be frank it's bland. Your 'arguments' hold no weight because they're blatantly false. Try again later
maybe i'm too full of my own head.
pr sheep me for just a bit
or tell me how you have this slot sorted?
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There was no tell.In post 947, MariaR wrote:Don't know. Prince is really confident on it though and I'm not townreading you.In post 941, RCEnigma wrote:Maria what was the tell?
pedit: aka you can't answer the stuff I post and you're dismissing it alright got it enter.
Go back to trying to make cases and failing on them again *Shrug*
Yes RCE has been playing to his scum game
But PR was pushing a gambit. There wasn't a scum tell on RCE that PR had on him, PR wanted to see how RCE reacted.
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i don't remember this type of post coming from scum!rceIn post 905, RCEnigma wrote:Meh, I trust your read. I'm mafia drained I think.In post 901, Enter wrote:Probably town indicative, if anything.
I follow the process and could kinda guess at what he was doing as he did it, so I'm not surprised it turned this way.
I think I somewhat agree with the results? I've run similar gambits before but it's been so long that I'm not sure how reliable this specific one is.
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eh
i'll come back to maria
VOTE: vedith
i'll come back to maria
VOTE: vedith
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i do think you think i have less influence than i have
we'll see eventually, i guess
we'll see eventually, i guess
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No.In post 956, MariaR wrote:The main crux of your argument (or at least to me) is you pushed me because I was getting pressured. Correct me if I'm wrong but the only people expressing a scumread on me were A) Shiro who I knew would react like that given the information they know and B) Yourself. That to me isn't pressure because you're 2 people. How I think you're looking at it though is you think you have a lot of influence so when I saw you sr me I had to go 'oh shit better hop wagons!' When that's really not the case.
Even if we go with the assumption I was getting pressured those things don't work on me. You can ask basically anyone pressure votes on me just aren't a thing that work
The crux of my argument is that
1. When RCE made the comment about neighborhoods earlier and why we weren't voting in the neighborhoods/neighborhood counterclaims, you dismissed it and said it didn't matter and then simultaneously voted in the counter-claimed neighborhood
2. Your fake vig earlier felt fake even as you were pulling it off, especially right after we'd had like three fake vigs from PR
3. I haven't seen anything particularly productive from your slot
4. When you said "I'm not a lynch today" and I applied the slightest bit of pressure to see if you would respond, you flipped your vote to RCE based on PR "confirming a tell" that wasn't really there in the first place. While Shiro and myself aren't enough to push a lynch through, I think based on the fact that your name is green it's pretty likely you're aware that lynches aren't something that everyone has to support immediately.
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My point on the last point is that pressure votes aren't always a thing that are used. Town usually talks and shows willingness to lynch a player prior to actually pushing them, and a couple people mentioning not townreading a player/being willing to lynch them is often more pressure than an actual vote, IMO, which is why I used that over the other method.In post 956, MariaR wrote:The main crux of your argument (or at least to me) is you pushed me because I was getting pressured. Correct me if I'm wrong but the only people expressing a scumread on me were A) Shiro who I knew would react like that given the information they know and B) Yourself. That to me isn't pressure because you're 2 people. How I think you're looking at it though is you think you have a lot of influence so when I saw you sr me I had to go 'oh shit better hop wagons!' When that's really not the case.
Even if we go with the assumption I was getting pressured those things don't work on me. You can ask basically anyone pressure votes on me just aren't a thing that work
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what does this meanIn post 961, Shiro wrote:OK i changed my mind on MariaR.
Vote:Enigma
If he flips scum, enter is likely scum with him. I really don't like enter saying, yeshe is playing yo his scum game but yada yada.
you buddying me is the only thing keeping me from lynching you right nowIn post 962, RCEnigma wrote:My only issue with Enter at the moment is that his read is me being dismissive with slots and he hasn't really questioned why I've actively been buddying up to him.
Still think he is town, wisdom/enter/shiro/Chara. It's kinda weird most of my townreads scumread but I feel they are wrong with ok-ish intentions if jIcompare it to the way PoR approached trying to read me which was already angled.
i didn't see scum you do it
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Not really sure how to approach maria atm, tbh
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kinda think lynch is in rce/blackjacks/vedith maybe dunn?
i guess bj/dunn makes sense kinda why wagons kinda stalemated on them? not really sure haven't seen a whole lot that makes me go either way on dunn, either, tbh
i guess bj/dunn makes sense kinda why wagons kinda stalemated on them? not really sure haven't seen a whole lot that makes me go either way on dunn, either, tbh
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VOTE: RCE
I've slept on it.
I've slept on it.
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Shooting yourself was brilliant
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Well played, thanks for the game, gif
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Once again proven that my scum game is formidable only for my buddies, lol
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Really surprised people didn't just flip pink ball after blackjacks and I both flipped scum
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I rate 5/5 games where I don't die day 1/night 1 as scum make me miserable
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So I kinda forgot the game was happening, but I've played this setup a couple times in sitechat before, (and modded them, too) and usually it doesn't matter who gets lynched first, just because if you get town, you get a confirmed townie, and most of the time by the first couple minutes based on who's working with who and so on and so forth. I saw the votecount and it looked like it was him or you. I knew if I voted you I'd either get scum and p much win, or I'd get town and you'd shoot him (killing scum). That's how it goes pretty much every time. So I flipped a coin that would only land heads up.
I get this setup mixed up a lot, though, with SS3 (and also every time I skim this I think townies are perma one-shot lynchproof) which is why I posted like I did at beginning of day 2. I know you know I'm town, cuz if you didn't think I was, you'd have shot me yesterday. Let's lynch RC and win this thing for the homies?
I get this setup mixed up a lot, though, with SS3 (and also every time I skim this I think townies are perma one-shot lynchproof) which is why I posted like I did at beginning of day 2. I know you know I'm town, cuz if you didn't think I was, you'd have shot me yesterday. Let's lynch RC and win this thing for the homies?
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