Mini Normal 2066: Catloaves [Game Over!]

[GrandWazoo]

Greetings all.
VOTE: themilkcartonkid

[GrandWazoo]

I am allergic to cats and dislike them generally. I would only eat a cat if it were properly skinned and dressed, preferably smoked or oven roasted.

[GrandWazoo]

I'm less happy about three votes on Locke and lots of one-vote vanity wagons.

I also get bad gut feels from the above.

Should I jump on locke with you?

My gut and experience tells me urap isn't this sheep-y as town.

VOTE: urap

[GrandWazoo]

I'm less happy about three votes on Locke and lots of one-vote vanity wagons.

I also get bad gut feels from the above.

Should I jump on locke with you?

My gut and experience tells me urap isn't this sheep-y as town.

VOTE: urap

Hello! Do you have any experience with u r a person 2 from before this game?

This is the 3d game I've played with him I believe.
Why would I cite experience w/him if I didn't have any?
And why are you so concerned with protecting your alt? If I wanted to guess people's identities I would've watched "Masked Singer" all the way though.

[GrandWazoo]

Declare intent to put Insomnia L-1. What this world is coming to

Alacrity is an enigma. I don't like enigmas. Stuff like their unvote and 142 ping me.

[GrandWazoo]

I'm gonna ask again: is this type of thing common on this site? Like, replacing out like that, I mean.

It happens too often (and often for the wrong reasons) imo.

YMMV, I havent experienced it yet

I have. Call it Radiant Cowbells Gambit. Pretty shameless AtE and often effective.

[GrandWazoo]

Enigmas are scum. Alacrity remains an enigma.

VOTE: Alacrity

[GrandWazoo]

Why did you give intent to vote Insomnia if you wanted alacrity

It was a play on the "L-2 is the new L-1" comment. It was clear that wagon would stall after Insom repped out.

[GrandWazoo]

Enigmas are scum. Alacrity remains an enigma.

VOTE: Alacrity

Urap does have a point: strange to vote this when you gave intent on Insom.

Reading is hard.

This is what I said.

Declare intent to put Insomnia L-1. What this world is coming to

Alacrity is an enigma. I don't like enigmas. Stuff like their unvote and 142 ping me.

Urap and Nomnom conveniently ignore the second sentence of this post. My vote on Alacrity is not "strange" as it only reiterates and reinforces a pre-existing read. If y'all could stop misrepping me that would be great.

[GrandWazoo]

@Grand Wazoo, could you define what pings you about this post. Seems like you might have skimmed this one

It's all of a piece with 38 41 and 44. I can't find a single reason why town would play this "guess my main" game. I can think of a very good reason why scum would. Even when directly asked about it, she ducks 205.

[GrandWazoo]

@Alacrity:

I don't understand why scum specifically would engage that point the way I did, but town would not. I thought that entire engagement was self-evident, so it is entirely possible that something got lost in translation.

I did not answer your question because there really is not any reason to. Revealing why I want this alt to be secret would be counter-productive, as it would drastically reduce the amount of players that it can apply to. I quite like this alt, I would like to keep using it. =)

By keeping your main a secret you are denying us the chance to compare your present play with your town/scum meta. A town player would welcome such scrutiny.

Transparency is only counter-productive to scum.

[GrandWazoo]

Urap always scumreads me for bogus reasons. But he usually at least pretends to make some sort of case. Seems to be phoning it in this game.

Alacrity votes me

again

. Since the first vote was embedded in a wall (as usual), maybe she didn't even notice.

[GrandWazoo]

Knowing who I am would not help you read me. =)

Then why the mystery?

You can always create another alt you know.

[GrandWazoo]

By keeping your main a secret you are denying us the chance to compare your present play with your town/scum meta. A town player would welcome such scrutiny.

Transparency is only counter-productive to scum.

@Nom

Now this, this right here is conspiracy theory levels

I wouldn't say it's conspiracy theory levels, I'd say it's more unnecessary invasive questioning.
Like, I can think of a lot of reasons why you would want to start an alt or in general start a new account and remain secret, that are not related to the game at all. Clearly she does not want to be recognized, so why press the issue for this long?

Like honestly I can't say if he's being invasive because he MUST know who Alacrity are so he will press the issue ad infinitum, or if there's something more to it.

You can't enter the game proudly declaring your alt, daring ppl to guess who it is, then complain because someone actually wants to know.

[GrandWazoo]

Ok I'll drop the alt business since it seems NAI here.

Nomnom & Urap still haven't addressed 282

[GrandWazoo]

First of all, it wasn't a misrep. I asked a question.

No, you insinuated that my Alacrity vote came out of nowhere. It clearly didn't.

I saw that you had been scum reading alacrity

but I also Saw that you didn't want to vote insomnia because you were worried about a quickhammer

Again, I was riffing on Penguin's remark. Not a great riff maybe. I certainly didn't worry about a quickhammer by NM or anyone else since I was already SR Insomnia.

This sounds like you were giving half-hearted support to a wagon you didn't really believe in, and without any real purpose because you thought the wagon would fall apart anyway.

First, I knew the wagon would fall apart because they always do in that situation. Second, I didn't read Insom's rep-out post until after I posted the lame "intent" which was careless on my part. :shrug:

And if that's how you felt about Insomnia, then I REALLY don't understand why your vote wasn't on alacrity to begin with?

Because there's more than one scum in the game obviously. I'm still sus of both slots. Feeling a little better about yours tho - this sounds more like town!Urap.

What's your read on NM? Are occasional shit-takes and naked votes just his meta?

[GrandWazoo]

Again, I was riffing on Penguin's remark. Not a great riff maybe. I certainly didn't worry about a quickhammer by NM or anyone else since I was already SR Insomnia.

So you weren't afraid of a quick hammer
And you actually scum read insomnia
And you were actually supportive of the wagon, which you thought was about to collapse

So you riffed on Penguin's remark instead of voting because you thought that was the best way to stop the wagon from breaking apart?

No I wasn't afraid of a quickhammer. Yes I was SR Insom, but as mentioned Insom wasn't the only SR.

Seriously bro, you're obsessing over what I didn't do, why I didn't do it and when. This is basically what you accuse me of doing with Alacrity - making a big deal over nothing.

[GrandWazoo]

Urap prolly isn't scum. He just sucks at reading me.

I'm basically getting pushed for being a prick. This is a really, really bad wagon.

[GrandWazoo]

or else his bloodlust overcame his senses

What senses?

[GrandWazoo]

Urap prolly isn't scum. He just sucks at reading me.

I'm basically getting pushed for being a prick. This is a really, really bad wagon.

He's not wrong. I misread him in our only completed game, I believe?

I don't think that's happening here, but if you're thinking of sheeping me, keep this in mind.

Forum rules preclude discussion of current games, but yeah, it's a pattern. This is town!Urap.

[GrandWazoo]

I'm wondering if scum have some weird mecha where they get rewarded for double voting. Alacrity and NM have both done it. This doesn't happen by accident on the same wagon.

And no Urap I didn't think I was hammered. I may be a prick but I'm not an idiot lol

[GrandWazoo]

I'm wondering if scum have some weird mecha where they get rewarded for double voting. Alacrity and NM have both done it. This doesn't happen by accident on the same wagon.

What normal ability would you suggest that falls under?

No clue. Just weird to me. The alternative explanation is they're sowing confusion or DGAF.

[GrandWazoo]

No clue. Just weird to me. The alternative explanation is they're sowing confusion or DGAF.

I mean - I asked that because it doesn't exist...this is the normal queue.
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Ah ok, gotcha. I'm not accustomed to normal ... well, anything...

[GrandWazoo]

I would like to note for the audience that GrandWazoo completely vanished in the twenty or so posts after the fake hammer, only to return and comment on something irrelevant to it. This shows he is following along and likely did not know how to properly respond to it!

I've been watching basketball actually. Some great games today. Checking in occasionally between beers.

If you think my comments are irrelevant you haven't read the last couple pages.

[GrandWazoo]

First, I knew the wagon would fall apart because they always do in that situation. Second, I didn't read Insom's rep-out post until after I posted the lame "intent" which was careless on my part. :shrug:

I agree with u r a person 2 here, but for a different reason than he brought forward! The actual issue with your posting around this point is how you went about the read trajectories. It is dissonant to say that wagons always fall apart on a player that has just requested replacement when your immediate response to set up a trajectory on another slot while acting like the initial wagon is going to continue.

It tells me that you are not following a consistent thought process.

I missed this post at the time. Reading it several times now I still can't parse that second sentence. I was SR Insom and you

before

his rep out. After Insom flaked I voted you because it was the only viable wagon remaining at the time. My "read trajectory" didn't immediately change, or change at all, just my vote. It doesn't mean I don't intend to revisit Insom's slot whenever the replacement re-engages in the game.

Maybe what you call dissonance I call the ability to maintain two separate but not mutually exclusive theories in my head.

[GrandWazoo]

in b4 NM lolhammers

This is still a lazy ass wagon

[GrandWazoo]

GW, what are your reads at this point?

I agree that the flow of this game feels odd, but the argument that it means this wagon must be scum driven because I'm on it is not compelling fmpov (lol)

If not GW, I think I want Eragon, Jay, or Locke today

My townbloc is Urap, pp, nomnom and MCK. Scum Alac, Locke and Roster. Everyone else null.

[GrandWazoo]

MCK: You should share your theories now. They may be rejected or mocked, but at least they will generate discussion. Apathy really is killing this game.

[GrandWazoo]

Finally got a chance to read Eragon catch up. Reminds me of when I'd turn in a massive term paper 2 hrs before it's due, knowing the prof had neither time nor desire to read the damn thing. It's got lots of content, and lots of footnotes, it must be good!

Alas, his SR on me centers almost entirely on the Alacrity-alt business, which I dropped literally 15 pages ago and have no intention of revisiting. Is this a scummy push? More to the point, would scum continue to bang on at length about this, thereby drawing unwanted attention? Or is this more likely to come from a bullheaded town? I mean, I ask myself this all the time and it's usually the latter.

As I explained elsewhere, "Riff" means a joke in this context.

It was Nathan Hale, not Nathaniel Greene, who said "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country."

I agree with most of these townreads, with the exception of Elsa and NM. Evidently to get townread by Eragon your playstyle must either be "fun" or YOLO. NM is unlynchable it seems. Elsa's ISO is really bad.

VOTE: Elsa