Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

Pretentious · Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:56 pm

If I could just...uhm, interject for one moment. I think we should start this game by talking potential strategy for this. I looked over and went over the setup thinking of possible scenarios for it after I got my role PM.

I believe the best strategy here is for one of the doctors to claim, and then the cop claim. From there the claimed doctor can just play a Follow-The-Cop game, and scum are forced to kill one of the doctors. After that, the Cop is already claimed, and the last remaining doctor can spam protect the cop until scum figure out who the other doctor is.

This makes it so the cop will, at the very least, get 2 investigative results, and that’s only if the second doctor is found by Night 2. On top of this, this essentially makes it so if scum decide to fake claim Doctor, they will be caught out by the second doctor eventually anyways, and the cop can just continue investigating elsewhere.

Pretentious · Post Post #6 (isolation #1) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:58 pm

Oh, nevermind. Cop becomes Macho after the first doctor dies.

@Scum Team - I know that I probably made it seem like I am a doctor with that post, but I am not a doctor. Don’t shoot me.

Pretentious · Post Post #8 (isolation #2) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:03 pm

In post 6, Pretentious wrote:Oh, nevermind. Cop becomes Macho after the first doctor dies.

@Scum Team - I know that I probably made it seem like I am a doctor with that post, but I am not a doctor. Don’t shoot me.

Okay, so I know this actually make sense it seem like I AM actually a doctor, and that I was going for that kind of WIFOM, so I’m just gonna claim. I am a doctor.

Pretentious · Post Post #11 (isolation #3) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:51 pm

You see, I don’t really believe in RVS. I much prefer a social democracy kind of game.

Pretentious · Post Post #12 (isolation #4) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:53 pm

I also take back my previous claim of “Doctor” earlier, and I’ll just claim Vanilla Town.

Pretentious · Post Post #16 (isolation #5) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:58 pm

sir Mr. Cowbells, sir. Is it not acceptable to cause purposeful WIFOM in a game such of this in place of an RVS style of play? I believe that my posts are essentially of the same degree that an RVS wagon vote would be; I could not assume that by posting in such manner that players of either alignment would come after me, correct?

You seem to care what Shoshin thinks of the vote, which is either some sort of reaction test or help from a solid town player, or a mixture of both. I feel like that comes from a town perspective.

Pretentious · Post Post #17 (isolation #6) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:59 pm

In post 14, Baezu wrote:Why not claim scum while you’re at it? You've claimed everything else, haha!

I thought by claiming things the way I did that was essentially what I was doing. Am i wrong?

Pretentious · Post Post #19 (isolation #7) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:06 pm

In post 18, RadiantCowbells wrote:Maybe I just miss the melodic sound of Shoshins voice

‘Twas a lovely RVS vote.

Pretentious · Post Post #21 (isolation #8) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:17 pm

In post 20, Shoshin wrote:I don't care for WIFOM or discussing it.

Baezu feels townish, though. That's something to discuss!

I agree.

Pretentious · Post Post #24 (isolation #9) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:46 pm

In post 23, RadiantCowbells wrote:

I'm being neglected.

I’m still here for you.

Pretentious · Post Post #26 (isolation #10) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:55 pm

That is fair, I have no objections to that. I guess I’ll just sit back and wait for people to post their thoughts about me.

Pretentious · Post Post #28 (isolation #11) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:06 pm

In post 27, TheWizard wrote:
In post 8, Pretentious wrote:
In post 6, Pretentious wrote:Oh, nevermind. Cop becomes Macho after the first doctor dies.

@Scum Team - I know that I probably made it seem like I am a doctor with that post, but I am not a doctor. Don’t shoot me.
Okay, so I know this actually make sense it seem like I AM actually a doctor, and that I was going for that kind of WIFOM, so I’m just gonna claim. I am a doctor.
I'm the other doctor. We should just heal each other. That way, the Cop only needs to find one mafia for mafia victory to become impossible.

We’re Macho. We can’t be protected.

Pretentious · Post Post #60 (isolation #12) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:56 am

In post 49, Skellen wrote:VOTE: Pretentious

Not really caring if his proposal makes sense, it just feels not genuine/staged. On one hand he thought about it after he got his role PM and suggests it here later, on the other hand he realizes just 1-2 minutes later after posting his fault with the Macho Cop mechanic. I don't buy that. Also I just hate WIFOM right at the beginning.

To be fair, if you thought that I was trying to make it not look staged, that’s on you. It was very much done by design.

Pretentious · Post Post #62 (isolation #13) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:08 am

Why RC? I thought he came off pretty townie.

Pretentious · Post Post #70 (isolation #14) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:56 am

In post 63, Shoshin wrote:
In post 62, Pretentious wrote:Why RC? I thought he came off pretty townie.
You're not concerned he wants to lynch you?

Why should I be concerned about that? I understand the position I put myself in. From what I can gather about sir Mr. Cowbells, I’d probably be more concerned if he didn’t need push me.

Pretentious · Post Post #71 (isolation #15) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:57 am

In post 64, Baezu wrote:
In post 15, RadiantCowbells wrote:Hi Baezu!

What are your thoughts on Pretentious?
He’s definitely town, maybe even PR but play style comes across as newb to me...do you have any experience with him RC?

I don’t have any completed games, but I would say I know Mafia decently well.

Pretentious · Post Post #72 (isolation #16) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:58 am

In post 66, Baezu wrote:
In post 27, TheWizard wrote:
In post 8, Pretentious wrote:
In post 6, Pretentious wrote:Oh, nevermind. Cop becomes Macho after the first doctor dies.

@Scum Team - I know that I probably made it seem like I am a doctor with that post, but I am not a doctor. Don’t shoot me.
Okay, so I know this actually make sense it seem like I AM actually a doctor, and that I was going for that kind of WIFOM, so I’m just gonna claim. I am a doctor.
I'm the other doctor. We should just heal each other. That way, the Cop only needs to find one mafia for mafia victory to become impossible.
VOTE: thewiz

Can people please stop claiming?!

If you think the claims are real, why are you voting here?

Pretentious · Post Post #75 (isolation #17) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:04 am

In post 74, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 73, Baezu wrote:I don’t think the claims are real, at least I don’t think his claim is real

Why do you believe pret over wiz?

Because I claimed everything, not one role.

Pretentious · Post Post #78 (isolation #18) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:38 am

In post 69, Baezu wrote:Why does it double quote?! Grrrr

What seems odd to me is that shoshin pointed out that I seem town this game, and then he’s voting RC- that’s two scum pings on my radar

You probably meant to multiquote, then canceled it, but sometimes it doesn’t cancel, even if you cancel it.

Pretentious · Post Post #79 (isolation #19) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:38 am

In post 78, Pretentious wrote:
In post 69, Baezu wrote:Why does it double quote?! Grrrr

What seems odd to me is that shoshin pointed out that I seem town this game, and then he’s voting RC- that’s two scum pings on my radar
You probably meant to multiquote, then canceled it, but sometimes it doesn’t cancel, even if you cancel it.

I’ve noticed this when I went to preview check.

Pretentious · Post Post #83 (isolation #20) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:40 pm

I too got the urge to want to vote Shoshin, so I understand the fast votes there. I’ll stay off the wagon to not add too many votes there, because I feel Shoshin could be town and RC and Shoshin just aren’t linking up right now. Either that or Shoshin’s just scum.

Flips is a little scummy to me.

TheWiz and Baezu both come across as townie for me. Either The Wiz is actually a doctor and did that, or he’s not a doctor and is playing around, which I see as townie messing around rather than Wolfy.

Pretentious · Post Post #114 (isolation #21) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:15 pm

VOTE: Creature

Let’s beetle juice him so he shows up.

Pretentious · Post Post #121 (isolation #22) » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:52 am

In post 118, Egix96 wrote:
In post 75, Pretentious wrote:
In post 74, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 73, Baezu wrote:I don’t think the claims are real, at least I don’t think his claim is real

Why do you believe pret over wiz?
Because I claimed everything, not one role.
What's the name of that rule that says "don't answer other people's questions for them"? _____'s Rule or something?

I was trying to throw shade because Flips is voting me.

Pretentious · Post Post #130 (isolation #23) » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:18 pm

Do you wanna go to a party with me, Eyes? You seem real fun.

Pretentious · Post Post #198 (isolation #24) » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:11 am

In post 169, Creature wrote:Why no one's townreading that?

I am town reading that.

Pretentious · Post Post #199 (isolation #25) » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:13 am

In post 197, Shoshin wrote:I'd guess CoA's town.

What are your thoughts on Creature and Emperor?

Pretentious · Post Post #200 (isolation #26) » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:14 am

UNVOTE: Creature

Pretentious · Post Post #276 (isolation #27) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:02 am

In post 209, RadiantCowbells wrote:Shoshin believes that I have a history of systematically misreading her, the idea of her coming in and saying "It's odd that you can't tell I'm town, what's up with that" is very strange.

I went and checked and I don’t think this is true. I don’t have a large pool to pull from, though, but I feel like sir Mr. Cowbells generally came into this game wanting Shoshin to be town, so they were testing them.

He even went away so it seems like he’s actively trying to not scum read Shoshin, but he can’t.

RC, Wizard are my town reads right now.

Pretentious · Post Post #983 (isolation #28) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:04 pm

I got pretty busy. I should have VLA’d.

This game seems to have gotten pretty active during that time.

Shoshin, who’s the main person pushing you here?

Pretentious · Post Post #988 (isolation #29) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:06 pm

In post 985, Buki wrote:
In post 983, Pretentious wrote:I got pretty busy. I should have VLA’d.

This game seems to have gotten pretty active during that time.

Shoshin, who’s the main person pushing you here?
rather than who is pushing Shoshin, you should ask who are the few guys not pushing Shoshin.

I didnt ask who was pushing Shoshin, I asked who the

main

person was, from her perspective.

Pretentious · Post Post #994 (isolation #30) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:09 pm

So from Shoshin’s perspective, ‘Justice’ is the main person pushing her?

Pretentious · Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:18 am

In post 1273, Creature wrote:Yeh, Shoshin's posts still tell very very very very very very very very very very very very very very little.

From what I’ve read, Shoshin normally comes off pretty townie. There’s nothing here that is necessarily scummy, but is that scum indicative do you think? I’m actually lean-null town on Shoshin, but I feel if Shoshin is scum that’s where I’d be.

The heavy pressure puts me off, though.

I think RC is town by gamestate, as Creature said. I’ve thought RC was townie since pretty early.

Creature seems like he’s actually analyzing.

Flips is lean scum for me from his weird push on me.

Wizard is super townie. Don’t go there, please.

I actually think Worm is town? I think. Seems like it would be hard to keep up that persona as scum as well as he is.

Buki i’m Gut scum reading. Maybe it’s just playstyle.

Pretentious · Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:19 am

I’m behind and missed a good chunk in the middle, so I’ll do a catchup. I haven’t given you guys any major stuff so you can try to read me, so i apologize for my inactivity.

Pretentious · Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:29 am

In post 1249, TheWizard wrote:Reminder that this is the plan:

TheWizard wrote:The plan:

Cop will check RadiantCowbells.

Doctors will heal whoever they think best.
Cop do not be an idiot. Check RC. Or town is screwed.

I’ll heal who I want, and it’s probably going to be RC.

Pretentious · Post Post #1300 (isolation #34) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:48 pm

In post 1293, Buki wrote:
In post 1289, Pretentious wrote:Wizard is super townie. Don’t go there, please.
bad posting

scum posting

Nah

Pretentious · Post Post #1301 (isolation #35) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:49 pm

In post 1295, Baezu wrote:Both wiz and preten claimed doc and I think one of those claims is fake. Please give me your opinions on which one is more likely to be a fake claim...I posit it’s wizard but for me it’s really a choice between one of these today

Wiz has basically already announced they’re VT when they brought up where the docs and cops should go.