Mini 2072: Timeshift Mafia IV [GAME OVER]

[Mephistophanes 39]

[Mephistophanes 39]

we already knew that ari

[Mephistophanes 39]

I'll actually play srsly soon but meming seems to be the plan for today

[Mephistophanes 39]

Btw, the future is Green obviously! XD

Mastina went too far into the future and got to the end of everything and that's only fun in Sci-fi!

Also, Reading Rainbow, wanna lolwagon RC with me? He is really fun when his feathers get ruffled

VOTE: RC

[Mephistophanes 39]

And no don't worry, I'm not gonna trade any wheat RC! XD

[Mephistophanes 39]

[Mephistophanes 39]

this game is exciting

Yeah, definitely.

Mod didn’t say anything in the setup. I’m a huge spec fiction buff and I was hoping it something to do with time travel or something along those lines.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Now, while lynching ceejay is unequivocally the right option, since we're nearing the deadline I would be willling to lynch my weaker scumread Righttodude.

This is so full of weird statements...like, we aren't nearing deadline. Amd if Ceejay if the right lynch why are we voting Righto? And what actually makes ceejay the greater scumread!?!?

If this is another callback from James3 in the last game I both don't think it is helpful and would ask that they at least be earmarked as such because parsing reads and such with them floating around is impossible for those not in that game (and no, I am not going to read that game for context.)

Uh, thanks for shifting the wagon off me though! You're right, I'm not scum. And the RC wagon if full lol!wagon.

Is there an actual case for Righto and ceejay or nah?

[Mephistophanes 39]

If this is another callback from James3 in the last game I both don't think it is helpful and would ask that they at least be earmarked as such

I'm pretty sure it is

awesome.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Righto is scum. Join us!

I mean, I kinda believe it. But a case would be nice

[Mephistophanes 39]

ask that they at least be earmarked as such

anything not written
like this
is a James3 meme

Noted!

I don't know what to say tho. This game is so jokey atm I'm actually at a loss.

UNVOTE:

RC, come give me some srs reads please! I need you to be my anchor <3

[Mephistophanes 39]

Mine is black, like my soul.

VOTE: Mephistophanes39

I think this is a scummy opening.

And I have correctly nailed scum before on scummy openings.

VOTE: Yahmose

~Nancy head

[Mephistophanes 39]

TTTT bleeding obvtown.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I think Ank hydra may be town.

[Mephistophanes 39]

@Latrodectus:

Yeah the FUTURE is a major reason why. 83 is technically random stage but it scumpings me to the heck realm.

-TL

I actually think you could be town here and horrible with reads.

There is nothing remotely scummy about Ari’s post but your tone here seems townie. I’m pretty decent at reading tone.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Alright, everyone claim your role immediately.

I'm a 2-Shot Ninja.

First scum found

VOTE: something smart

I think this kind of post is more likely to come from town than scum.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Hey look this is scum.

VOTE: Righttodude

Righto is scum. Join us!

Please explain your Righto case to me. Thanks.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I can also TELL you that ORIGINALLY I thought that IF Ari was indeed the one posting that we weren't seriously contributing anything, that it was odd he didn't give MORE because he tends to THRIVE in shitposting environments.

My SUSPICION that he was AVERSE to this I didn't act on D1--and I PROMISE you it's something we later REGRETTED.

I mean, I played around a bit but like, I don't get the memes from the other games and the hole "from the future" bit feels so forced. Maybe I'm just not fun anymore

Honestly though a big part of it is that I keep getting scumfeels off you in particular, mastina, but I don't want to out that yet because I haven't mentioned it to Nancy so that is part of why I haven't played along too.

Uggh why am

I

the one trying to be serious here!? WTF happened to me?? XD

[Mephistophanes 39]

ask that they at least be earmarked as such

anything not written
like this
is a James3 meme

what I meant to write was...


Okay town, it's time to get serious. After carefully reviewing the Mephistophanes 39 wagon, I've determined that it's nonsense. I can't say for a certain fact that he's town, but he's definitely not mafia. The wagon being built on him is clearly designed by relatively intelligent scum getting bad towns to sheep them. If you're town, you need to get off of it now. I haven't lookd into the RC wagon in the same detail, but at first glance it appears to be the same. Now, given this, I can conlcude with a high degree of probability that the mafia has day chat.

Now, while lynching ceejay is unequivocally the right option, since we're nearing the deadline I would be willling to lynch my weaker scumread Righttodude.

VOTE: Righttodude

Join this wagon.

Okay RC is utterly terrible. If it weren't for the obvscum wagon on Righttodude I would definitely scumread him, but it's pretty clear he's just bad town. I would strenuously ask rosterfoster and the other town on him to move their votes off.

Time Devil is still a fine lynch.

TTTT bleeding obvtown.

what have I done that is town indicative?

that better be some kinda meta read
and then you better explain it

Why do I need meta and why are you overreacting to this?

[Mephistophanes 39]

~Nancy head

I can also TELL you that ORIGINALLY, just like THIS time, Mephistophanes's posts were left ambiguous as to whether they were Nancy or Aristophanes, aside from rare instances such as this one. All of posts like 51, 59, 60, 83, 84, 108, 109, 115, 119, 120, and 151, we NEVER learned if they were Nancy or Aristophanes because they never clarified even though this was something which should've been ALIGNMENT-INDICATIVE. I deeply REGRETTED not asking them to clarify this, especially given that in the LAST GAME we played together there was no such doubt as to who was posting when. In THAT GAME I knew that Ari was Ari and Nancy was Nancy but HERE I was left uncertain.

Since the Mephistophanes wagon never happened ORIGINALLY on D1, I would be VERY interested in hearing the thoughts of BOTH heads today on the wagon on them.

You seriously can’t tell my posts and Ari’s apart here? I would think it obvious?

I don’t really know what to make of all of your trolling, other than you badly want our attention.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I can also TELL you that ORIGINALLY I thought that IF Ari was indeed the one posting that we weren't seriously contributing anything, that it was odd he didn't give MORE because he tends to THRIVE in shitposting environments.

My SUSPICION that he was AVERSE to this I didn't act on D1--and I PROMISE you it's something we later REGRETTED.

Are you scum here, Mastina? I guess we’ll find that out, the closer we get to deadline.

[Mephistophanes 39]

ask that they at least be earmarked as such

anything not written
like this
is a James3 meme

Noted!

I don't know what to say tho. This game is so jokey atm I'm actually at a loss.

UNVOTE:

RC, come give me some srs reads please! I need you to be my anchor <3

what are reads

i only know shitposting

Hmmmmm . . .

Don’t hold your breath on that Ari.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Here is a piece of info for you: I do, indeed, possess a killing ability.

Make of that what you will.

Anything else you care to add?

[Mephistophanes 39]

Here is a piece of info for you: I do, indeed, possess a killing ability.

Make of that what you will.

Anything else you care to add?

Nah.

Any chance I can convince you to NK us?

~Nancy - Happy now, Mastina?

[Mephistophanes 39]

Spoiler:

[Mephistophanes 39]

Why do I need meta and why are you overreacting to this?

I just don't know why you'd TR me
for shitposting
unless you think that's AI for me

Obviously I could be wrong but that’s just my take on those posts. They just seem to come from a townie mindset.

Thoughts on Mastina. Do you think her trolling is NAI or potentially scum indicative? What about Yahmose? He strikes me as being kind of cryptic.

I don’t hate Rightof wagon but too many people jumped on it kind of fast and that makes me leery.

~N

[Mephistophanes 39]

I don't have much exp with Mastina so I dunno
Yahmose either, but I'm inclined to TR the claim

I guess the black like my soul kind of made me wonder but yeah, scum is less likely to soft that.

UNVOTE:

[Mephistophanes 39]

Here is a piece of info for you: I do, indeed, possess a killing ability.

Make of that what you will.

Anything else you care to add?

Nah.

Any chance I can convince you to NK us?

~Nancy - Happy now, Mastina?

Act scummy.

I guess I have my answer.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I have this theory that Mastina is either trolling us for lulz or she is actually scum, playing to her MBoS meta here. Our vote will be on there, should it become obvious to us, she isn’t straight up trolling us.

Spoiler:

[Mephistophanes 39]

I have this theory that Mastina is either trolling us for lulz or she is actually scum, playing to her MBoS meta here. Our vote will be on there, should it become obvious to us, she isn’t straight up trolling us.

Spoiler:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=28641

[Mephistophanes 39]

I have this theory that Mastina is either trolling us for lulz or she is actually scum, playing to her MBoS meta here. Our vote will be on there, should it become obvious to us, she isn’t straight up trolling us.

Spoiler:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=28641

Above link is scum!Mastina’s ISO in the game thread.


https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=28641

Above is Mastina’s ISO in the scum PT.


If Mastina is in fact scum in this game, she is planning to be bussed by her teammates after our flip, whenever that happens.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I don't get the wagon on Rightodude, not much info besides a townlock on RC which seems sudden since that's his opening post (95). It scumpings me, but not enough for me to L-1.

Mephistophanes seems to think mastina is scum, and I think 192 doesn't get the point across (I don't see the connection).

Yahmose's "can kill" claim doesn't sit right with me, especially considering 181. (probably scum, if Yahmose is a scum!vig we're doomed)

-TL

If we’re flipped you will, if she’s scum. She played to be lynched early to get her partner towncred. So, if/when we’re flipped, Mastina will probably be lynched following that, unless it really is a straight up troll she’s dong on us. Because there is no way, she actually believes a single word of what she’s saying about her bizarro lolcase on us, which is why I think she could still be just trolling. But if she’s seriously pushing us based on the reasons she’s claiming, she 100% knows she’s full of shit and that our flip will prove it.

So if she’s playing to her MBoS’ scummeta, she is planning to take a fall after our flip, to give her teammates towncred for bussing her.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

So you're telling me Mastina is

not

from the future?????????????????????????

~A

Yes, the jury’s still out on Mars however.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I feel there is good odds that light_ganski is scum!
Mephistophanes 39 also is leaning scum for page four!

Rosterfoster is leaning town, but I do not believe his vote on rightodude is necessarily a good vote!
TTTT being so serious through the shitposting right away rings town to me!

3/4 good reads aren’t too bad but it still kind of sucks that you can’t read me. :/

[Mephistophanes 39]

Time Devil is town! =)

I said that too but feel free to ignore it.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Hello! I am caught up! =)

TTTT is very likely town!
Rosterfoster is likely town!

Thanks to these two reads and my concurrent scumreads on ceejayvinoya and Light_Ganski, the Rosterfoster->TTTT->ceejayvinoya->Light_Ganski ordering on the Rightodude wagon is suspicious! I also personally believe that Rightodude looks much more like LHF than scum at the current moment!

Mastina can go either way! I only have memories of seeing her troll like this as scum, but this is far from conclusive nor a confident read! I believe this is much more likely to be NAI. Regardless, her current vote is good, which is enough for a leantown read for this current point in the game! =)

Mephistophanes has pinged me a few times! Ari's original vote onto RC was not a good vote, and Nancy trying to pull the suspicion off of that post while still townreading the slot that pushed it feels agenda-driven!
Time_Devil is likely town! It's quite standard for their posting to feel incredibly awkward and I believe that specific point is NAI, but the suspicion on the Aristophanes vote on RC is quite good!

I sincerely hope this isn’t the Ank head making this post. Tell me what game, I haven’t done this? I’ll wait.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I don't get the wagon on Rightodude, not much info besides a townlock on RC which seems sudden since that's his opening post (95). It scumpings me, but not enough for me to L-1.

Mephistophanes seems to think mastina is scum, and I think 192 doesn't get the point across (I don't see the connection).

Yahmose's "can kill" claim doesn't sit right with me, especially considering 181. (probably scum, if Yahmose is a scum!vig we're doomed)

-TL

I honestly don’t know what to make of Mastina now. I still have ptsd over MBoS. :/

I’m also not buying her schtick. I could see her thinking Ari is common mislynchbait and trying to stop it if town but eh. I just think what she’s doing hurts us more than helps us, regardless of her alignment.

~Nancy

[Mephistophanes 39]

Hello! I am caught up! =)

TTTT is very likely town!
Rosterfoster is likely town!

Thanks to these two reads and my concurrent scumreads on ceejayvinoya and Light_Ganski, the Rosterfoster->TTTT->ceejayvinoya->Light_Ganski ordering on the Rightodude wagon is suspicious! I also personally believe that Rightodude looks much more like LHF than scum at the current moment!

Mastina can go either way! I only have memories of seeing her troll like this as scum, but this is far from conclusive nor a confident read! I believe this is much more likely to be NAI. Regardless, her current vote is good, which is enough for a leantown read for this current point in the game! =)

Mephistophanes has pinged me a few times! Ari's original vote onto RC was not a good vote, and Nancy trying to pull the suspicion off of that post while still townreading the slot that pushed it feels agenda-driven!
Time_Devil is likely town! It's quite standard for their posting to feel incredibly awkward and I believe that specific point is NAI, but the suspicion on the Aristophanes vote on RC is quite good!

I sincerely hope this isn’t the Ank head making this post. Tell me what game, I haven’t done this? I’ll wait.

Also, Ari made it extremely clear it was a freaking

lolwagon

, so I don’t understand how you don’t realize he was just goofing around. And it’s really silly for you to say my post was “agenda driven”. Of course it was, because TD’s suspicion on us was misplaced. I tl them both for tone and their entire ISO and just happened to kill two birds with one stone with quoting that specific post but feel free to see scum intent where none exists.

[Mephistophanes 39]

There’s a wagon on me for making a meme post.
Thanks Obama.
I’ll just ignore the fact that there’s going to be a lynch on me. I can tell you right now that you will regret lynching me.
I’m not claiming D1 because that’s dumb.

Very bad response to a lolwagon.

For a start it's uncommon for an early D1 wagon to lead to a lynch anyway,

especially

one most of us joined for the lolz. And no one would expect a claim at L-3, just out of RVS

This seems like a fake overreaction and a bad attempt at faking a PR slip

Are righto newbies? Because I had a meltdown similar to this in Necromancer but if not a newb than yeah, it’s strange to be overreacting to an RVS wagon. But I always freak out at votes on me, so I’m not really the best person to be making this kind of post.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Hello Light!

How well do you know RC? =)

Not very well; I've played with him once or twice but it was a loooooong time ago

Then you may be forgiven for not knowing why purposely trying to ruffle RC's feathers is a scummy move! =)

Oh give me a freaking break! God. Now you’re insulting RC here. RC’s “feathers” weren’t ruffled because unlike you apparently, he actually has a sense of humour and knew it wasn’t a serious push. If it had been, you can bet money, he would have said something about it.

I don’t like this post because you’re way overreacting to something that you’d know RC wouldn’t and he didn’t, so my point proven. RC doesn’t need you whiteknighting him over something this ridiculous.

[Mephistophanes 39]

P.edit. Does RC get upset at a REAL wagon on him? Of course but he doesn’t get upset at a joke wagon and neither would I - well at least not since Necromancer anyhow.

It’s low level pinging me how much of a federal case Lactodectrus is making out of essentially nothing. RC never gets upset over a joke wagon on him and I don’t believe for one minute, that they seriously believe otherwise.

[Mephistophanes 39]

P.edit. Does RC get upset at a REAL wagon on him? Of course but he doesn’t get upset at a joke wagon and neither would I - well at least not since Necromancer anyhow.

It’s low level pinging me how much of a federal case Lactodectrus is making out of essentially nothing. RC never gets upset over a joke wagon on him and I don’t believe for one minute, that they seriously believe otherwise.

Maybe if it got to L-2 before someone unvoted, maybe but I think it’s really really weird that Lac is overreacting to something that RC never even acknowledged.

[Mephistophanes 39]

P.edit. Does RC get upset at a REAL wagon on him? Of course but he doesn’t get upset at a joke wagon and neither would I - well at least not since Necromancer anyhow.

It’s low level pinging me how much of a federal case Lactodectrus is making out of essentially nothing. RC never gets upset over a joke wagon on him and I don’t believe for one minute, that they seriously believe otherwise.

Maybe if it got to L-2 before someone unvoted, maybe but I think it’s really really weird that Lac is overreacting to something that RC never even acknowledged.

Actually that was dumb. He definitely would get upset over any wagon on him getting to L-2, serious or not but it wasn’t and we would have unvoted well before it would have come to that because it was a joke.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Mastina
reveal to me my destiny
thanks

[Mephistophanes 39]

Hello Nancy! =)

I feel there is good odds that light_ganski is scum!
Mephistophanes 39 also is leaning scum for page four!

Rosterfoster is leaning town, but I do not believe his vote on rightodude is necessarily a good vote!
TTTT being so serious through the shitposting right away rings town to me!

3/4 good reads aren’t too bad but it still kind of sucks that you can’t read me. :/

Would it help if this post was made at the end of page four? =)

Hello! I am caught up! =)

TTTT is very likely town!
Rosterfoster is likely town!

Thanks to these two reads and my concurrent scumreads on ceejayvinoya and Light_Ganski, the Rosterfoster->TTTT->ceejayvinoya->Light_Ganski ordering on the Rightodude wagon is suspicious! I also personally believe that Rightodude looks much more like LHF than scum at the current moment!

Mastina can go either way! I only have memories of seeing her troll like this as scum, but this is far from conclusive nor a confident read! I believe this is much more likely to be NAI. Regardless, her current vote is good, which is enough for a leantown read for this current point in the game! =)

Mephistophanes has pinged me a few times! Ari's original vote onto RC was not a good vote, and Nancy trying to pull the suspicion off of that post while still townreading the slot that pushed it feels agenda-driven!
Time_Devil is likely town! It's quite standard for their posting to feel incredibly awkward and I believe that specific point is NAI, but the suspicion on the Aristophanes vote on RC is quite good!

I sincerely hope this isn’t the Ank head making this post. Tell me what game, I haven’t done this? I’ll wait.

Would you say that in context of your slot's entire trajectory, it does not look quite strange? =)

An lolwagon by itself for RVS is not strange, but it would be quite easy and low risk to begin a wagon and see if it will gain traction due to the early state of the game! The part that is most relevant to me, however, is that it looks innocent enough on the surface to not be suspicious if the wagon does indeed take off and the paranoia begins. In addition, Aristophanes later posted that the game has had too much joke content for him to parse effectively, followed by you later coming in and trying to defend the initial vote when it garnered suspicion! =)

Add those three together, and you get quite an interesting picture, indeed!

Hello Light!

How well do you know RC? =)

Not very well; I've played with him once or twice but it was a loooooong time ago

Then you may be forgiven for not knowing why purposely trying to ruffle RC's feathers is a scummy move! =)

Oh give me a freaking break! God. Now you’re insulting RC here. RC’s “feathers” weren’t ruffled because unlike you apparently, he actually has a sense of humour and knew it wasn’t a serious push. If it had been, you can bet money, he would have said something about it.

I don’t like this post because you’re way overreacting to something that you’d know RC wouldn’t and he didn’t, so my point proven. RC doesn’t need you whiteknighting him over something this ridiculous.

Do you believe that there is no chance that the initial push would gain traction, and then eventually it would turn serious for no other reason than it is RC who is being wagoned?

There is such a thing as planting a seed in somebody's mind, and that is the primary way that paranoia becomes a problem in games! =)

P.edit. Does RC get upset at a REAL wagon on him? Of course but he doesn’t get upset at a joke wagon and neither would I - well at least not since Necromancer anyhow.

It’s low level pinging me how much of a federal case Lactodectrus is making out of essentially nothing. RC never gets upset over a joke wagon on him and I don’t believe for one minute, that they seriously believe otherwise.

You are criticizing me for, in your view, making a situation much larger than it actually is, yet I placed my vote elsewhere entirely and left my read of your slot as 'a few pings.'

There is quite some time for me to form a full read on your slot, but you specifically going full tilt on my initial scumlean on your slot is quite concerning when the majority of it is from content that your hydra partner has posted. =(

Yes I understand this but Ari does these things. Would I ever have started/agreed to this lolwagon on RC? No but you know how much I despise RVS, so I just told Ari I was overgamed and exhausted and I would get more involved later.

However, what I went “full tilt” about was the part about “purposely ruffling RC’s feathers”, because that clearly never happened because Ari very clearly called it a “lolwagon”.

I adore Ari but he very frequently gets wrongly scumread with good reasons. His was the only slot mislynched in Overkill 1 and there was a wagon on him on Stellaris until I made a few posts and derailed it. So that’s it in a nutshell. I have never played with scum!Ari and don’t know his scumgame but this is definitely not it. We are 100% town in this game.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Anyway @Lactodectrus, I now see your point and am no longer pinged. I read your strongest sr are on ceejay and light. Ceejay like Ari, is another slot that frequently gets scumread and I mislynched Light in ND.

So, is your case on both mostly based on them being on righto wagon or something more?

[Mephistophanes 39]

The wagon composition and the location of the specific names on that wagon makes it likely that Rightodude is town! =)

It's awfully early to be making a read like this...

You must not know who Alacrity is! =)

I’m confused, I just checked the playerlist and couldn’t find any Alacrity on this.

[Mephistophanes 39]

There’s a wagon on me for making a meme post.
Thanks Obama.
I’ll just ignore the fact that there’s going to be a lynch on me. I can tell you right now that you will regret lynching me.
I’m not claiming D1 because that’s dumb.

Very bad response to a lolwagon.

For a start

it's uncommon for an early D1 wagon to lead to a lynch anyway

,

especially

one most of us joined for the lolz. And no one would expect a claim at L-3, just out of RVS

This seems like a fake overreaction and a bad attempt at faking a PR slip

I just remembered that scum!Enter said the exact same thing in Topaz.

VOTE: light_ganski

[Mephistophanes 39]

There’s a wagon on me for making a meme post.
Thanks Obama.
I’ll just ignore the fact that there’s going to be a lynch on me. I can tell you right now that you will regret lynching me.
I’m not claiming D1 because that’s dumb.

Very bad response to a lolwagon.

For a start

it's uncommon for an early D1 wagon to lead to a lynch anyway

,

especially

one most of us joined for the lolz. And no one would expect a claim at L-3, just out of RVS

This seems like a fake overreaction and a bad attempt at faking a PR slip

I just remembered that scum!Enter said the exact same thing in Topaz

.

VOTE: light_ganski

I want NMSA to be lynched today, I don't think he will be lynched right now. Based on experience the wagon on him will dismantle before reforming again if he will be lynched, though.

Very very rarely do I see a wagon coming out of RVS resulting in a Lynch.

[Mephistophanes 39]

P.edit. What evidence was there that rightto was a “lolwagon” like lg is claiming? That’s the difference with Ari’s RC “lolwagon”, whether or not it was an unwise decision on his part, not a single person doubted that RC wagon actually was a lolwagon. I actually didn’t think righto was a joke wagon.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Here is a piece of info for you: I do, indeed, possess a killing ability.

Make of that what you will.

Town. Scum don't typically respond to pressure like this

You had best be 1000% (not a typo) sure of this. I'm not letting a scum!vig run around even if it means I die.

There’s a wagon on me for making a meme post.
Thanks Obama.
I’ll just ignore the fact that there’s going to be a lynch on me. I can tell you right now that you will regret lynching me.
I’m not claiming D1 because that’s dumb.

Try harder to deflect your wagon please.

P.edit. Does RC get upset at a REAL wagon on him? Of course but he doesn’t get upset at a joke wagon and neither would I - well at least not since Necromancer anyhow.

It’s low level pinging me how much of a federal case Lactodectrus is making out of essentially nothing. RC never gets upset over a joke wagon on him and I don’t believe for one minute, that they seriously believe otherwise.

I think I have to agree here. Yeah that scumpings me as well.

i think at like page 37 i'll out who 1 scum is

Noted.

While Mephistophanes 39 was scum in the FUTURE before it changed, light_ganski is just scummy.

VOTE: light_ganski

224 seems fluffy.

My answer to 225 is that the ISO mentioned and mastina's ISO in this game are nothing alike. That's why I TR mastina from that post. If you have something beyond mastina coming off as somewhat trolling I'd want to hear it.

-TL

I've played one game with mastina, in it I townread her (and was right) but she was mislynched. This is early on and she was a replacement in that game but tonally she was nothing like this then;

why is her vote more alignment indicative that her tone?

~ light_ganski

I don’t think Mastina’s one of those players you can’t correctly read, solely off of tone. I would say that scum!Mastina is far more likely to set herself up to be bussed than buss her teammates, if MBoS is any indication.

[Mephistophanes 39]

You heard him. Spam. Spam like you mean it.

I seriously hope you’re trolling. I really can’t tell with you.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Also something that seemed odd about Light is the emphasis on Righto being a lolwagon. It got to L-2 and there were actual reasons to vote there, Light was big on emphasizing the lolrandomness of it, but that was the end of RVS and there were reasons for that wagon, and Light voted after we got on right after Righto had made another nothing post.

That was really your thought process on replacing in, FB?

(￣～￣;)

~A

That’s what prompted me to look up that scum!Enter quote because he was hardpushing lhf town!NMSA and giving a similar rationale. So, good to know I’m not the only one who was surprised to hear her call it a “lolwagon”.

~N

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Time Devil is scum.
TTTT is my town pet.

Why is TD scum?

Sorry.

[Mephistophanes 39]

And mastina,

if you want me to replace out of this game, just request it any time in the game

, I will not be insulted/take offense to it at all. I will honor it because I can be a dick to you and I am not promising I won't be a dick to you at all this game. You shouldn't have to deal with that if you don't want to and I will honor the request.

She can’t do that, it’s now against site rules.

[Mephistophanes 39]

And mastina,

if you want me to replace out of this game, just request it any time in the game

, I will not be insulted/take offense to it at all. I will honor it because I can be a dick to you and I am not promising I won't be a dick to you at all this game. You shouldn't have to deal with that if you don't want to and I will honor the request.

She can’t do that, it’s now against site rules.

I don't think you understand the purpose of that rule.

Wouldn’t she get into trouble if she did that?

[Mephistophanes 39]

I'm checking in! didn't realise that the game started but rainbow reads HAS to be town. look at that text

Hey look this is scum.

VOTE: Righttodude

can't you agree that rainbow's text is godly.

I’m slightly confused right now. My head is hurting
/vote for me to get a psychiatrist

These were rightodude's three posts at the time I joined the wagon. rosterfoster started the wagon immediately after the first (95 > 96). For all I know rosterfoster could've got a scumread out of that but I certainly wouldn't have. I joined for the "I'll get a psychiatrist" joke

Btw I can confirm myself D3 for those interested in voting me

UNVOTE:

[Mephistophanes 39]

Also something that seemed odd about Light is the emphasis on Righto being a lolwagon. It got to L-2 and there were actual reasons to vote there, Light was big on emphasizing the lolrandomness of it, but that was the end of RVS and there were reasons for that wagon, and Light voted after we got on right after Righto had made another nothing post.

That was really your thought process on replacing in, FB?

(￣～￣;)

~A

That’s what prompted me to look up that scum!Enter quote because he was hardpushing lhf town!NMSA and giving a similar rationale. So, good to know I’m not the only one who was surprised to hear her call it a “lolwagon”.

~N

This question is for latrodectus as well as you:

What

specifically

are your reasons for thinking the rightodude wagon was NOT a lolwagon?

Why wouldn’t I? Just because I already posted that scum!Enter pulled the same bs argument when he tried to mislynch lhf town!NMSA in Topaz.

I really find this questioning suspicious. Maybe I bought into your claim which you didn’t even elaborate on, too soon?

[Mephistophanes 39]

VOTE: light_ganski

Way too much emphasis on righto being a “lolwagon”, without any real justification. I think it’s all predicated on discrediting righto and pushing their probable mislynch.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I honestly don’t know what to make of Mastina now. I still have ptsd over MBoS. :/

In spite of me being town, if THIS TIME things go even remotely the same, TRUST me;

you'll only end up feeling WORSE

.

My townplay's more traumatizing than any scumgame ever could be. And TRUST me; that NEVER CHANGES.

Wrt bolded, I doubt that’s even possible. I almost quit the site after that game. :/

[Mephistophanes 39]

Mastina
reveal to me my destiny
thanks

It's NOT a PLEASANT one.
(You DESERVED better.)

No! Not TTTT.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Btw I can confirm myself D3 for those interested in voting me

While Mephistophanes 39 was scum in the FUTURE before it changed, light_ganski is just scummy.

Mephistophanes was NEVER scum in THE FUTURE.

However, they were MISLYNCHED on SUSPICION of being scum D3

.

Coincidence? Both mention D3 or am I drinking too much into the Mastina koolade? I’m still highly skeptical but starting to wonder if it’s not 100% trolling?

[Mephistophanes 39]

this game is moving slow
will we ever reach page 37?

YES.

This prediction, I believe.

[Mephistophanes 39]

There’s a wagon on me for making a meme post.
Thanks Obama.
I’ll just ignore the fact that there’s going to be a lynch on me. I can tell you right now that you will regret lynching me.
I’m not claiming D1 because that’s dumb.

Very bad response to a lolwagon.

For a start it's uncommon for an early D1 wagon to lead to a lynch anyway,

especially

one most of us joined for the lolz. And no one would expect a claim at L-3, just out of RVS

This seems like a fake overreaction and a bad attempt at faking a PR slip

Are righto newbies? Because I had a meltdown similar to this in Necromancer but if not a newb than yeah, it’s strange to be overreacting to an RVS wagon. But I always freak out at votes on me, so I’m not really the best person to be making this kind of post.

I'm new to FM, this is my 4th game. one of them was a marathon game. this is the first time I've played on this forum though

Like I suspected. Light get off of righto, your reasons for sr them based on their reactions to your so-called “lolwagon” are bs.

[Mephistophanes 39]

u can cut out the roleplay. I don't see what ur even roleplaying as with this gimmick ur going for

+1

I am having an extraordinarily hard time taking this game seriously and I think this is the main reason why

Well, more than just mastina, looking through the past few pages the amount of actual game content is like 25%.

Mastina it would definitely help if you cut that out. It would also help if the people who have strong opinions could summarize them along with some easy-to-check reasoning so we don't have to keep digging through fluff looking for content.

I disagree with you. Mastina was uberannoying in ND, which is at least part of the reason I mislynched her but I agree with Ank. I’m kind of getting a kick out of it.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Specifically I want to hear from the people on the righto wagon, including Firebringer who may or may not have realized he inherited a vote on the largest wagon.

It’s a bad wagon, if it ever was indeed ever really a “lolwagon” to begin with and I’m not shocked to learn that righto is in fact a newb and therefore would even be that much more inclined not to think that. I think it’s bs to sr anyone for being upset at votes on them and that seems to be the entire basis of light’s vote on this slot.

[Mephistophanes 39]

so when people notice mastina is roleplaying, and then her vote turns of mephistanes, ur natural conclusion is that she is lying about the future stuff which normal people like me would say is roleplaying, and instead is lying and therefore scum.

that is what ur going with?

My current theory lies in her possibly reaction testing our slot? Because I’m not really buying into any of this future stuff or at least I consider the vast majority of it bogus - highly entertaining but nevertheless bogus.

[Mephistophanes 39]

so when people notice mastina is roleplaying, and then her vote turns of mephistanes, ur natural conclusion is that she is lying about the future stuff which normal people like me would say is roleplaying, and instead is lying and therefore scum.

that is what ur going with?

If mastina was roleplaying, the contradiction still exists so therefore mastina has to be lying in one of those posts in the case. And there's still the issue of controlling votes in 61 (still Random Stage here though) and 205 (not Random Stage this time!).

You conveniently left out the part where I accused mastina of controlling votes in your post attacking my case.

-TL

Well that is a fair point. However, I really dislike light’s reasoning for sr righto and as I have posted. Scum!Enter tried to mislynch town!NMSA with this RVS wagon nonsense, so I can’t speak for Mastina but that’s my reasoning for voting light.

[Mephistophanes 39]

okay I get the idea u are willfully clueless on what reads are or what controlling the votes is not much different than trying to rally votes and how that isn't unusual.

Yes, it’s the REASONS for doing it which are AI, not the actual doing of it.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I really find this questioning suspicious. Maybe I bought into your claim which you didn’t even elaborate on, too soon?

How is that question suspicious?

There’s a wagon on me for making a meme post.
Thanks Obama.
I’ll just ignore the fact that there’s going to be a lynch on me. I can tell you right now that you will regret lynching me.
I’m not claiming D1 because that’s dumb.

Very bad response to a lolwagon.

For a start it's uncommon for an early D1 wagon to lead to a lynch anyway,

especially

one most of us joined for the lolz. And no one would expect a claim at L-3, just out of RVS

This seems like a fake overreaction and a bad attempt at faking a PR slip

So, this continuing to make this whole “lolwagon” thing an issue, is pinging me.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I don't get the wagon on Rightodude, not much info besides a townlock on RC which seems sudden since that's his opening post (95). It scumpings me, but not enough for me to L-1.

rightodude is a lolwagon but they're probably town in hindsight

UNVOTE:

Mephistophanes seems to think mastina is scum, and I think 192 doesn't get the point across (I don't see the connection).

Expand on this pls. I think there's plenty of scope for mephisto to be suspicious of mastina at this stage

Yahmose's "can kill" claim doesn't sit right with me, especially considering 181. (probably scum, if Yahmose is a scum!vig we're doomed)

Interesting. That post is the main reason I think yahmoose is probably town

Didn’t realize she unvoted.

UNVOTE:

[Mephistophanes 39]

okay crazy person

Who are you calling crazy? TD or me?

[Mephistophanes 39]

you

have i ever told you that you remind me of my mother and my mother is fucking nuts.

No. Based on?

And if your mother really is “nuts”, that might explain a few things.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I really find this questioning suspicious. Maybe I bought into your claim which you didn’t even elaborate on, too soon?

How is that question suspicious?

There’s a wagon on me for making a meme post.
Thanks Obama.
I’ll just ignore the fact that there’s going to be a lynch on me. I can tell you right now that you will regret lynching me.
I’m not claiming D1 because that’s dumb.

Very bad response to a lolwagon.

For a start it's uncommon for an early D1 wagon to lead to a lynch anyway,

especially

one most of us joined for the lolz. And no one would expect a claim at L-3, just out of RVS

This seems like a fake overreaction and a bad attempt at faking a PR slip

So, this continuing to make this whole “lolwagon” thing an issue, is pinging me.

1:

I'd left the wagon at this point.

Didn't know he was a newbie otherwise I wouldn't have read him like this.

2:

I notice you still haven't given a reason for why you think my vote was a serious vote. All you've done is say "light calling this a lolwagon is suspicious" without giving any reason as to why it isn't one. Maybe, just maybe, that's because thats what it was?

Is there some reason you’re not reading my posts? I have already explained this.:/

[Mephistophanes 39]

And mastina,

if you want me to replace out of this game, just request it any time in the game

, I will not be insulted/take offense to it at all. I will honor it because I can be a dick to you and I am not promising I won't be a dick to you at all this game. You shouldn't have to deal with that if you don't want to and I will honor the request.

She can’t do that, it’s now against site rules.

I don't think you understand the purpose of that rule.

Subject: Rule Regarding Threats/Demands to Replace Out of Games

We have added a rule to the Game Specific Rules to read:

Replacements, while sometimes necessary, also serve as an outside influence.

As such, do not tell other players to replace out.

Do not publicly threaten to replace out of a game. If you do need to replace out, do not publicly discuss your reasons or anything else, as you are no longer a player in the game. PM your game moderator if you are considering replacing out or have concerns and believe another player should be replaced out.

<snip>

Just don't plz.
Im pages behind but like, seriously.

Obv mine. Sorry!

do u both not get the purpose or intent of that rule or do i need to explain it?

No, I get it. The intent is to reduce outside effects of games, reduce toxicity, and lock in replacements once made to limit the sway it has on the game.

You are still asking mastina to break the rule as her requesting that you replace out is literally asking her to break it.

And like, I know that your intent here is genuine and that you want to keep the toxicity out of this game, thus it is noble that you are offering this! I respect that! But it still breaks a site rule.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Anyway I should like actually read the game I guess...

Sorry Ive been busy.

[Mephistophanes 39]

ok

so i guess no one's ever actually going to play the game and i'm just going to play single player mafia all game

VOTE: mephistophanes 39

this is scum. no strong stance on who the other scum are but this is always scum.

If you’re town here, you’ll regret this vote. If you successfully push our mislynch, doubling, tripling down on that.

If you’re actually scum here, I’ll just probably hate you.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Why are you being difficult?
you just complained that nobody is playing the game
and I'm trying to engage you on your vote

the actual answer is also something that is hard to put into a post

applied to both heads, when I've read them off of my gut read I've been dead on. I bailed ND39 out in MD (though I did have strong lingering doubts about her and intended to play around her being scum) because I thought intellectually it was unlikely she would do a few things as scum. She was still scum and I felt it in my gut. I kept discrediting Nimueh townreads in NSG's game even though I was never confident enough to go after her because intellectually her response to GL could have been a SvS interaction even though she didn't feel scummy. Same goes for Ari who I have accurately gutread over a very large number of games and only once screwed up on when I decided to abandon my gut read and "think" that he was town b/c he was posting too much to be scum.

this is all a very roundabout way of saying that I gutread both of their posting scum and I don't think that I'm ever wrong on that gutread.

solitaire Mafia sounds like a shitty game
have fun

it is a pretty shitty game. but the expectation of me right now is that I play solitaire mafia and then I get lynched if my solitaire mafia performance wasn't good enough.
does this interaction with me

actually

change your read on me no matter how it goes? because I strongly suspect based on past precedence the answer is no.

One little fly in this ointment Sherlock, we’re never scum here and this had better be a fucking reaction test.

[Mephistophanes 39]

tentative pick for second scum is mastina but I don't have any good reasons for that.

You have no good reasons for sr me either but hey, don’t let that stop you.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I can believe Nancy is scum given her interaction with me tbh.

Based on what?

?????

[Mephistophanes 39]

I can believe Nancy is scum given her interaction with me tbh.

VOTE: Firebringer

This makes absolutely no sense.

[Mephistophanes 39]

VOTE: Mephistophanes 39

But otoh, naked voting is supersketch.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I can believe Nancy is scum given her interaction with me tbh.

VOTE: Firebringer

This makes absolutely no sense.

Fire, explain your read on me. Until you give a logical reason, I’m not moving my vote. But \o/ for RC batting 1000, in once again being unable to correctly read me.

But after we flip, bettting on RC keeping pushing this bs narrative.

[Mephistophanes 39]

But otoh, naked voting is supersketch.

Is it really?

I think so because town usually either gives a reason or claims to be sheeping.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I can believe Nancy is scum given her interaction with me tbh.

VOTE: Firebringer

This makes absolutely no sense.

does it though?

No, it doesn’t. How do our interactions read scummy to you?

[Mephistophanes 39]

tentative pick for second scum is mastina but I don't have any good reasons for that.

You have no good reasons for sr me either but hey, don’t let that stop you.

u know this is one of those classic scum posts u make right?

No, it’s an NAI post. Do your homework and ISO me, if you doubt this.

[Mephistophanes 39]

u did this exact same fucking thing last time I scumread u and u were scum.

That’s why I just said it’s NAI. ISO my games, if you think I’m bssing you. Anyway, we are actually town here and I’d prefer to prove that in other ways than our flip.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I can believe Nancy is scum given her interaction with me tbh.

VOTE: Firebringer

This makes absolutely no sense.

Fire, explain your read on me. Until you give a logical reason, I’m not moving my vote. But \o/ for RC batting 1000, in once again being unable to correctly read me.

But after we flip, bettting on RC keeping pushing this bs narrative.

Those first two sentences are almost word for word the same u gave me when u were scum and u were trying to counter my scumread on u before.

which tbh, I didn't have a strong scumread here until literally u acknowledged and engaged that scumread.

I voted you because you said you could see I’m scum, based on our interactions and I totally can’t see that at all. Wrt the attitude, I just want to throttle RC, especially if he’s planning to drive a mislynch on me.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I am not even going to vote or push u because I don't feel like getting into a fight with u because last time I did everyone just magically townread u because of ur AtE to the whole thing. ill let someone else do it and not give u benefit of having someone to fight and just hammer u if u get to l-1

I am obvtown here. I don’t know wtf is wrong with RC. Actually he wrongly sr me in a recent game, while claiming he has a fucking clue how to read me.

But yeah, I can understand why you’d think that but you still haven’t explained how our previous interactions read scummy to you, so until you explain it, it just looks like unwarranted shade to me.

[Mephistophanes 39]

@Matina (okay willing to take crazy pills and drink the koolade ).

Was it RC who drove my D3 mislynch in whatever alternative reality you were referencing?

I still think this is a straight up troll but I thought I’d ask just in case there is even a 00000000000000.1 chance it isn’t.

[Mephistophanes 39]

all I do is shade shade shade. it's my calling card.

You specifically said that you could see how we’re scum here, solely based off of our interactions. Correct? That made absolutely no sense to me, which is why I voted you.

I also don’t understand your TD sr.

[Mephistophanes 39]

To recap the REVEALED knowledge of THE FUTURE:
Mephistophanes was the D3 mislynch; they are TOWN.
A hydra was the N2 nightkill; they are obviously TOWN.
Yahmose CLAIMED a KILLING ability ORIGINALLY.
Something_Smart is TOWN.
ORIGINALLY, RC ended up HARD-TUNNELED on a TOWN player at SOME POINT in the game.
And NOW, light_ganski is the BEST place to go.

What does everyone make of this? I’ve never played timeshift, is there a PR that knows the future?

Your guess is as good as mine. That’s why I’m not 100% sure it’s not a straight up troll.

[Mephistophanes 39]

@Light: your 224 questions are all to my other head but collectively we are debating Mephisto it's not a definite scumread.

Your shading that as fence sitting is (￢_￢) though

Are you saying you toneread Mastina as scum? and that should be more important than her actual reads and votes? because that's kind of bizarre

scumreading ceejay and you doesn't mean we're convinced you are a team, so

You think scum!me chose to jump on an RVS wagon immediately after my buddy?

is pretty bogus

Not sure where her roster read in that post came from, we haven't discussed that one beyond her making that comment, so can't respond there, but taking the time to address these one by one, I get why she skipped on responding to your 224

Fire was ceejay slot right? Can you explain why you initially sr that slot? That would help, thanks. We are 100% flipping town here Ank, you can lock it in.

[Mephistophanes 39]

TTTT, could you clarify your 124 (it's quoted in the spoiler), were you still wanting to lynch Righto at that time? And were you at least a smidge serious in 113?

Anyway, in response to Light bringing this continuously, I'll just dump the whole chunk of game

Spoiler: The lolwagon, HUGE, only useful for rereading while thinking about the rightowagon

I'm checking in! didn't realise that the game started but rainbow reads HAS to be town. look at that text

Hey look this is scum.

VOTE: Righttodude

There is a recent thread in MD about newb scum greeting people like this

what I meant to write was...


Okay town, it's time to get serious. After carefully reviewing the Mephistophanes 39 wagon, I've determined that it's nonsense. I can't say for a certain fact that he's town, but he's definitely not mafia. The wagon being built on him is clearly designed by relatively intelligent scum getting bad towns to sheep them. If you're town, you need to get off of it now. I haven't lookd into the RC wagon in the same detail, but at first glance it appears to be the same. Now, given this, I can conlcude with a high degree of probability that the mafia has day chat.

Now, while lynching ceejay is unequivocally the right option, since we're nearing the deadline I would be willling to lynch my weaker scumread Righttodude.

VOTE: Righttodude

Join this wagon.

As a leading authority on ceejay, I can say that lynching ceejay is definitely not the right option. I, however, am willing to support you on your endeavour to lynch your scumread.

VOTE: Rightodude

Righto is scum. Join us!

Righto is scum. Join us!

I mean, I kinda believe it. But a case would be nice

I'm checking in! didn't realise that the game started but rainbow reads HAS to be town. look at that text

Hey look this is scum.

VOTE: Righttodude

can't you agree that rainbow's text is godly.

This is your case.

Okay RC is utterly terrible. If it weren't for the obvscum wagon on Righttodude I would definitely scumread him, but it's pretty clear he's just bad town. I would strenuously ask rosterfoster and the other town on him to move their votes off.

Time Devil is still a fine lynch.

Pretty sure this is James3 memeing

I’m slightly confused right now. My head is hurting
/vote for me to get a psychiatrist

Okay VOTE: rightodude

~A

now where's my psychiatrist?

I also require a psychiatrist VOTE: rightodude

I guess we're destined to repeat the mistakes of the FUTURE, if mastina cannot tell us the scum we originally failed to kill

L-2

Hey look this is scum.

VOTE: Righttodude

Righto is scum. Join us!

Please explain your Righto case to me. Thanks.

I don't get the wagon on Rightodude, not much info besides a townlock on RC which seems sudden since that's his opening post (95). It scumpings me, but not enough for me to L-1.

Mephistophanes seems to think mastina is scum, and I think 192 doesn't get the point across (I don't see the connection).

Yahmose's "can kill" claim doesn't sit right with me, especially considering 181. (probably scum, if Yahmose is a scum!vig we're doomed)

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VOTE: rightodude

L-1

I feel there is good odds that light_ganski is scum!
Mephistophanes 39 also is leaning scum for page four!

Rosterfoster is leaning town, but I do not believe his vote on rightodude is necessarily a good vote!
TTTT being so serious through the shitposting right away rings town to me!

UNVOTE: Rightodude

The wagon composition and the location of the specific names on that wagon makes it likely that Rightodude is town! =)

L-2

Hello! I am caught up! =)

TTTT is very likely town!
Rosterfoster is likely town!

Thanks to these two reads and my concurrent scumreads on ceejayvinoya and Light_Ganski, the Rosterfoster->TTTT->ceejayvinoya->Light_Ganski ordering on the Rightodude wagon is suspicious! I also personally believe that Rightodude looks much more like LHF than scum at the current moment!

Mastina can go either way! I only have memories of seeing her troll like this as scum, but this is far from conclusive nor a confident read! I believe this is much more likely to be NAI. Regardless, her current vote is good, which is enough for a leantown read for this current point in the game! =)

Mephistophanes has pinged me a few times! Ari's original vote onto RC was not a good vote, and Nancy trying to pull the suspicion off of that post while still townreading the slot that pushed it feels agenda-driven!
Time_Devil is likely town! It's quite standard for their posting to feel incredibly awkward and I believe that specific point is NAI, but the suspicion on the Aristophanes vote on RC is quite good!

I don't get the wagon on Rightodude, not much info besides a townlock on RC which seems sudden since that's his opening post (95). It scumpings me, but not enough for me to L-1.

rightodude is a lolwagon but they're probably town in hindsight

UNVOTE:

L-3

There’s a wagon on me for making a meme post.
Thanks Obama.
I’ll just ignore the fact that there’s going to be a lynch on me. I can tell you right now that you will regret lynching me.
I’m not claiming D1 because that’s dumb.

Very bad response to a lolwagon.

For a start it's uncommon for an early D1 wagon to lead to a lynch anyway,

especially

one most of us joined for the lolz. And no one would expect a claim at L-3, just out of RVS

This seems like a fake overreaction and a bad attempt at faking a PR slip

This is starting to feel more like a case on Light than context around the wagon and no one other than me is going to read this giant wall of quotes anyway. Anyway, lolwagon is a pretty strong dismissal of this, and Light keeps repeating it and emphasizing it and it doesn't have to be the most serious wagon of all time for that to be suspicious.

Also, chalk me up as also scumreading

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~A

Rainbow too? Well I really did hate that naked vote on us, so definitely not tr them for that.

Wait, so RR put righto to L-1, an alleged “lolwagon”? Hmmmmm . . .

[Mephistophanes 39]

neat that you failed to respond to me calling RC WOAT

FIFY

[Mephistophanes 39]

This game is not interesting.

VOTE: LG

You’re voting light because you’re bored?

[Mephistophanes 39]

I think so because town usually either gives a reason or claims to be sheeping.

I think I, for one, naked vote more as town than as scum. As town my attitude is "I'll do what I want, idc what people think" whereas as scum I don't want to be put on the defensive.

Just because town always HAS a reason for voting (and this is true of scum too, although it's not always true that scum have a reason they'd be willing to share) doesn't mean they'll always SAY it.

I have seen scum do that as well, so at the best NAI.

[Mephistophanes 39]

I can believe Nancy is scum given her interaction with me tbh.

VOTE: Firebringer

This makes absolutely no sense.

Fire, explain your read on me. Until you give a logical reason, I’m not moving my vote. But \o/ for RC batting 1000, in once again being unable to correctly read me.

But after we flip, bettting on RC keeping pushing this bs narrative.

Those first two sentences are almost word for word the same u gave me when u were scum and u were trying to counter my scumread on u before.

which tbh, I didn't have a strong scumread here until literally u acknowledged and engaged that scumread.

This most isn’t helping my read on you and is making you look even scummier. You haven’t given me a single reason, play or readwise for your shade on me and if you’re going to bs shade me like this, at the very least attempt to back this up.

[Mephistophanes 39]

VOTE: Time Devil

And now you’re voting one of my townreads. How is TD scum?

HURT: RC

[Mephistophanes 39]

VOTE: Time Devil

And now you’re voting one of my townreads. How is TD scum?

HURT: RC

Yeah I know this is meaningless but he 100% deserves it anyway.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Spoiler:

[Mephistophanes 39]

are all of ur scumreads related to people voting or calling u scum rn Nancy? I am not really following ur reads.

Wow, more shade. TD voted for me and you keep deflecting. You initially said I reminded you of your crazy mother, which you also never explained. Suddenly RC wants to drive a mislynch on us and suddenly you view those same interactions as scummy?

Can you see why I think that makes no sense?

I also feel pretty good about Lac now, since we seem to be mindmelding on reads. And I tried to fight to get votes off righto and was inexplicably got rewarded for that but I obviously blame RC for that not righto.

[Mephistophanes 39]

This game is not interesting.

VOTE: LG

You’re voting light because you’re bored?

It's technically a reason. Do you townread that more than a naked vote?

~A

I honestly can’t tell with Roster but in general, I think a bad reason looks scummier than a naked vote, if that’s what you’re asking me. That’s why I read naked voting as NAI/proscum because it’s extremely easy for scum to hide behind. If they instead say they’re sheeping, then it’s still technically a reason because they’re backing up another player’s reason.

If it’s done for reaction testing otoh, I would be more inclined to tr that. I tend to tr reaction testing in general because it’s usually town motivated.

RC has done that to me before but this time he just seems to be straight up pushing me without ever engaging me, which worries me a bit, because the last game he did that to me, he wasn’t trying to actively get me mislynched.

[Mephistophanes 39]

How is that shade?

I’ve already explained that. He keeps saying certain things I’ve done are scummy without either not explaining why or not bothering to back anything up.

[Mephistophanes 39]

its shade when u have Nancy vision.

So, you don’t think I’m scummy anymore? Can you make up your mind already?

[Mephistophanes 39]

In that post he didn't say that anything you did was scummy...

I can believe Nancy is scum given her interaction with me tbh.

[Mephistophanes 39]

its weird how u notice that only people who are up their own asses will say someone is scum for shading/discrediting them.
I rarely see that from a level headed player.

and i don't think i am exceptionally level headed, i can have an ego, but i don't think i ever called someone scum for 'discrediting' or 'shading' me. If I did then i was probably up my own ass at my skill level or something.

its something weird that u always find with people who think they are good, and its honestly the towniest thing i can see from Nancy because Nancy scum did last time was continually repeat "I DONT UNDERSTAND YOUR READ" and when explained would go back and reiterrate. She didn't accuse u of discrediitng/shading much, she would go to this victim mentality kind of play not this "I am hot stuff and u pushing me shows ur scum" level of route that might be more townie from her.

granted she has basically done both but the "i don't understand" can make sense given that I am not going to go into depth with that read with her and haven't explained things but thats mostly because if i did i expect her to repeat the "I don't understand" infinitum.

I am like 60-70% sure she is scum, but you know she could jsut be adopting her town playstyle better now than before. Ankamius not picking up these habits worries me also since she thinks she is better at reading nancy and all these are red flags for me.

its shade when u have Nancy vision.

So, you don’t think I’m scummy anymore? Can you make up your mind already?

that post was not saying u are town, that post was saying this is normal behavior for u.

[Mephistophanes 39]

Nancy he was talking about me asking u about ur reads, not about me saying our interactions are scummy. I can think one is scummy and not think the other is scummy or even say the other is townie. I did neither with asking about ur reads, i wanted to know where ur reads are coming from because all i have seen lately was u post people who are voting/scumreading u as scum.

why did u think TD pushing u was townie?

I didn’t tr him for that. I just said that to dispute your nonsense discredit of me sr anyone who sr me. I think TD is town because he seems to be actively sorting and his tone is also good.

[Mephistophanes 39]

is that supposed to mean "I don't understand" or what?

because frankly if u say "I don't understand" again, i am going to double down on this read because that is as good as a scum claim right now imo.

It’s a headbang emoji because that’s what your contradictory posting makes me feel like doing. Stop fucking putting words in my mouth.

[Mephistophanes 39]

how sure r u that i am scum?

You’re acting really scummy. You can’t both crazy read me and scummy read me at the same time, it looks like hedging to me.

[Mephistophanes 39]

how sure r u that i am scum?

You’re acting really scummy. You can’t both crazy read me and scummy read me at the same time, it looks like hedging to me.

It’s a bs discredit in either case.

[Mephistophanes 39]

well u will be happy to know i have settled on that ur scum. have a good day.

And still not a single valid reason for it? Back up at least one goddamned thing you’re saying if you can.

[Mephistophanes 39]

well u will be happy to know i have settled on that ur scum. have a good day.

And still not a single valid reason for it? Back up at least one goddamned thing you’re saying if you can.

Oh yeah, if I’m wrong and you actually are town here, there’s still some room left at the RC WOAT club. Better hurry though, seats are piling up fast.

[Mephistophanes 39]

well u will be happy to know i have settled on that ur scum. have a good day.

And still not a single valid reason for it? Back up at least one goddamned thing you’re saying if you can.

Oh yeah, if I’m wrong and you actually are town here, there’s still some room left at the RC WOAT club. Better hurry though, seats are filling up fast.

If I’m mislynched, it would be the second time today. Yeah idiot town just lost a game for mislynching me in LYLO. \o/

[Mephistophanes 39]

That wasn't the post you quoted when you said "more shade" though. Were you referring to the quoted post or something different with that?

Oh well he kept saying I said the same thing as scum but never posted anything. Also the whole Nancy crazy/Nancy scum crap.

[Mephistophanes 39]

im not even voting u nor have i said i was oging to vote u today unless ur l-1. ur attempts at this AtE are noted.

So, you plan to hammer town. Also noted.

[Mephistophanes 39]

im not even voting u nor have i said i was oging to vote u today unless ur l-1. ur attempts at this AtE are noted.

Well sorry, I just lost a game because a WOAT couldn’t read me, at freaking LYLO no less and I open up this thread only to find that RC is trying to drive a mislynch on me, so I apologize for not being overjoyed.

[Mephistophanes 39]

im not even voting u nor have i said i was oging to vote u today unless ur l-1. ur attempts at this AtE are noted.

Well sorry, I just lost a game because a WOAT couldn’t read me, at freaking LYLO no less and I open up this thread only to find that RC is trying to drive a mislynch on me, so I apologize for not being overjoyed.

And he hammered me before I could even vote or post, so not happy rn.

[Mephistophanes 39]

why r u AtE me when I am a scumread of urs? Seriously, explain it.

I’m mad at RC and I just explained it. I devoted myself to this game on MU only to get mislynched at LYLO before I could vote or post. I would do it RC but he isn’t here rn.

I sr you for your inconsistent read on me and your never explaining any of it.

[Mephistophanes 39]

how did me calling ur posts as AtE suddenly become good faith pushes and not scum discredit? U just said I am acitng scummy and trying to discredit u. Not even a page ago.

I didn’t say they were. I don’t know what it is but if your town here, you need to explain your read on me and why, because all you’ve done so far is misrep me.

[Mephistophanes 39]

how did me calling ur posts as AtE suddenly become good faith pushes and not scum discredit? U just said I am acitng scummy and trying to discredit u. Not even a page ago.

You are. First I’m “crazy” then scummy then crazy again, now scummy, Is that about right?

[Mephistophanes 39]

i'm actually emotionally at the point where i don't care who the scum is or not

Protip: it isn’t us. I’m disappointed that Ank can’t see it yet. You need to unvote us because I am 100% flipping green but since no one seems to believe me, I’m losing interest in this game where it looks like I will be continuing to be wrongly sr the entire game, so best option is for Yamose to either NK/vig us tonight. A cop check would be preferable but I’m already too pissed off to care that the only way for us to get tr through cop inno. :/

[Mephistophanes 39]

Nancy do u townread Ank here?

Yeah, I think she’s different here than in FOTM. You don’t?

I think she was obvscum in that game. Scum!Ank doesn’t make these kind of nuanced reads.