Bulletnlynchproof 13p pre-designed setup

[implosion]

nsg is here to review
rc is here to add sass

On the other hand I don't want a Night 1 acting vig which could bring a lot of swing onto town
Which leaves us at:

2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 2+ Vig
1 Town JOAT {Commuter, Roleblocker, Doctor}
6 Vanilla Townie

[northsidegal]

looks decent enough, would pass if you made the cult recruiter lynchproof

[RadiantCowbells]

Umm sorry just to add a few things here that you may or may not know as an inexperienced normal reviewer

1) Flavor is not allowed. Only mafia/werewolf flavor. Therefore a 'cult' is not allowed to be used in normal games.

2) Recruiters constitute unpredictable alignment shifts which are not only non-normal but are the realm of bastard modding. They have no place in mafiascum.org s normal games.

3) Lynch-proof is not an allowed modifier especially on a scum role.

[northsidegal]

i dont take orders from lowly secondary reviewers

[implosion]

cult is mandatory now silly seal

[northsidegal]

i think we missed an april fools opportunity with adding cults to normal games and such honestly

(was there even an april fools joke this year? zor said there was but i have no idea what)

[BNL]

2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 3+ Vigilante
7 Vanilla Townie

[RadiantCowbells]

seems very hard for town.

[BNL]

How about night 2+ vig

[RadiantCowbells]

how about i give you the finger

.|.

and you give me my phone call?

[northsidegal]

i think night 2+ is moving in the right direction. are you going for deliberate negative utility with the psychologist / delayed vig interaction?

i think scum being informed of the entire setup is a tenable idea, but i guess i'm not sure if this setup is enough for town.

[RadiantCowbells]

second the assertion that scum could use more POWER

[RadiantCowbells]

and by scum i mean town

[BNL]

2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 3+ Vigilante
1 Town Simple Doctor
6 Vanilla Townie

Better?

[BNL]

Bump
If still too scumsided I’ll inform the Mafia about the Psychologist or Watcher only.

[RadiantCowbells]

your mom

[BNL]

northsidegal?

[RadiantCowbells]

she's your mom?

[BNL]

Implo said she siteflaked

[northsidegal]

its been all of three days but i guess thats still accurate, sorry about that. i think the addition of the doc is maybe actually a bit too much, interested in rcs thoughts

i dont want to be too overbearing in the design of your setup but i think a better direction to go in would be something that interacts in some unique way with the fact that scum are informed

[BNL]

Is the simple doctor really that powerful?

FWIW the idea of the setup was the Watcher + Psychologist + Scum informed about them. I just put "scum informed about everything" to make it simpler.

[BNL]

2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Simple Doctor
7 Vanilla Townie

How's this then? It may be too weak now, but I hadn't liked the vigilante in the setup; while I initially used it as a psychologist guilty, I felt like the setup didn't warrant one.

[BNL]

Actually
How about change the simple doctor to a simple babysitter?

[RadiantCowbells]

it's really easy for scum to play optimally around the watcher and psychologist when they're informed about them.

[BNL]

2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 3+ Vigilante
1 Town Simple Doctor
6 Vanilla Townie

Better?

Would you call this balanced then?