Micro 873 - Game Over

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hells yeah

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HEAL: implosion
HEAL: tim goodman
HEAL: sashaddin
HEAL: skygazer
HEAL: quest

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HURT: Skygazer
HEAL: blake belladonna

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it's sad you rolled scum.

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ooh nsg rolled town that's good that's good

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next two people to post that haven't posted yet get to be automatically town!!!!

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RHS.

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so much zzzzzzzzzzzzz obvtown people it is NOT THAT HARD!!

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RHS.

(this is not a real answer, btw)

I don't see why it can't be. It's the entire reason that I chose to heal five people.
If you're asking why it was those specific five people, then that would be an interesting question.

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Blake Belladonna + Sashaddin solve?

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Why do you believe that I got that read from scumreading a slot that hadn't posted yet?

Where, precisely, did you get that read from?

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i do not understand why you are responding to my question with a quote from a different player and a question mark, rather than answering my question that is entirely unrelated to tim goodman's post.

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Blake Belladonna + Sashaddin solve?

IDTS.

What's the objection?

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Are you an alt of someone I've played with, Quest?

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That statement was a bait, there was no actual read there.

What kind of reactions were you trying to bait with it?

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If it were a throwaway/sarcastic/random comment sure, but I'm kind of skeptical of early explicit attempts to bait.

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I do like the Tim town take.

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That statement was a bait, there was no actual read there.

What kind of reactions were you trying to bait with it?

I wanted to see how the slots that hadn't posted yet responded.

I have a read on both Quest and Tim Goodman from it.

this seems soooo trite

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ALRIGHT time to tunnel i'm sold on this solve

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HURT: Blake Belladonna
HURT: Sashaddin
HEAL: Tim Goodman
HEAL: Skygazer

i'll switch someone for quest after i take another like four days to be paranoid that i'm getting pocketed

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I don't think Skygazer's a good heal target.

I have some conflicting feelings toward her posting so far. I thought her opening was kinda bad at first but I don't really think that anymore.

I'd love to hear some arguments about her.

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o fuck i healed quest originally well then

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Hot take: I would rather be out of the coalition than in it

hahahaahahahahahahahaha this is a horrible take if you're town

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Math Fact: if a single town member refuses to enter coalitions, it becomes 350% more difficult for the town to form a successful coalition!

isn't math wonderful?

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hot take
let's try to get an all town coalition
and if we don't
then let's play the game as a 7:2 mountainous with the bonus info from the coalition
is this really that difficult why is there any goddamn strategy

there's only one actual reason to want to not be in the coalition, and that's if you consider yourself SO difficult to read/frequently misread as town that you assume you're going to be instantly lynched if a coalition fails with you in it. And even that's not necessarily a good reason.

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How many times did town properly prepare for the coalition failing?

what in your opinion are the proper steps to prepare for this
we've already ensured we have sufficient supplies of water, spam, and canned soup
what else could we possibly need

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and if you say "a can opener" i swear to all fuck

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activity overview is pretty funny right now.

27-26-21-18-5-4-2-2-1 postcount

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i do really want an answer to that question though

what do you mean that the town wasn't properly prepared? Do you mean that towns lost by forming coalitions in such a way that if they failed, they wouldn't get sufficient information to then solve the game? How, exactly, do you think we ought to form a coalition so as to get that information?

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in the last coalition game no lunch suggested a coalition of ppl of ppl who are town and easy to read lategame moreso than just town

i agree w that take

you townreading me yet?

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in the last coalition game no lunch suggested a coalition of ppl of ppl who are town and easy to read lategame moreso than just town

i agree w that take

you townreading me yet?

ehhh not sure how my posting got any better and i thought u were pushing for me to react to the hurt rather than actually scumreading my shitpost

i do not understand this post

i asked if you're townreading me and you responded by talking about how *i* should be reading *you*?

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my read on you is pretty ambiguated at this point

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quest is playing a damn good game if she's scum.

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ank/blake is maybe town, (shrug)

tim is still town

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all the highposters being town is way too simple, though it wouldn't surprise me a ton atm. I'm really not convinced that skygazer has done scummy things thus far.

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i don't think we need continue the discussion about approaches at all yet. It's not important atm.

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try reading me as town it should help

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i kiiiiiinda agree that the whole blake having a weird approach to the game could be townish.

i also kinda feel like the "maximum of one scum has posted so far" line was objectively super scummy and she's just been trying to backpedal since then. Calling it bait just feels unnecessary. Phrasing feels kind of scummy at a couple points, like 85 and 58. Even 90 itself kinda feels like scum saying "okay i'm under some pressure, let me say this thing that is an actual opinion that I have as a distraction". The opinion itself is absolutely not townish, it's probably an opinion that she has regardless of alignment, and if it's a genuine opinion there isn't much real reason for scum to not say it.

so i guess i don't actually really agree w/ that thing i said i agreed with at the top of this post

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You're town, but I have no F'n idea what you're even trying to accomplish.

I'd rather be out of the coalition because I'm not approaching this game to win with the coalition.

I'm approaching the game to play to my win condition; this is actively playing against yours for your own satisfaction.

Blake, you dodged my question.

Blake, why am I not in your list? Is it because you're trying to distance yourself away from me? If so, it's not gonna work.

Speak fast.

These posts + the semi-subtle approach she had to reading ank so far + the way she's given reads generally seems town to me.

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She's town, she's just playing weird.

The things that I think are scummy aren't things that are the byproduct of town playing weird, though. If I'm wrong it's from a wrong understanding of tone/mindset type things.

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Just an FYI my activity level was mostly bc I am super bored at work these days :p

I probably won’t be posting or reading much til tomorrow afternoonish

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Math Fact: if a single town member refuses to enter coalitions, it becomes 350% more difficult for the town to form a successful coalition!

isn't math wonderful?

Math is wonderful, I'm a math teacher.
I don't understand your computation, I end up with 250% or 3.5x more. Unless this is what you meant? Anyways, it makes it a whole lot harder.

Phoneposting so probably gonna either spam a bit or get bored and stop

Replace “350% more” with “350% as”; I misspoke.

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HURT: Blake Belladona, Implosion
After reading through I'm not vouching for those two right now.

Y not (why not)?

Implosion: The general tone, a little of OMGUS for voting me, and I feel he's posting a lot for show (LAMIST?)

“Posting a lot for show” and lamist are absurd accusations given my iso is full of reads and content.

HURT: Blake Belladona, Implosion
After reading through I'm not vouching for those two right now.

Y not (why not)?

Blake: 90, 102, 152
I'm not saying I'm scumreading him for those posts, but if he wants out of the coalition that's fine by me I'll find someone else.

That doesn't seem like a great reason.

You're probably right, but this is my first coalition game so it made sense in my head. What's wrong about this?

This sequence seems really defensive in a strange way that I want to call bad but am not sure of. Quest wasn’t calling the reasoning scummy, she was calling it “not great” I.e. wrong. And sashaddins first instinct to having reasoning be called wrong is to say that it probably is wrong but it made sense in his head and ask what’s wrong with it and I guess I’m confused by the phrasing more than the content looking at it more. Not sure I can quite explain atm but the sequence of thoughts is just odd.

There’s actually likely nothing here bc I think I misread it slightly but I’m not deleting this paragraph

HEAL: Quest.
HEAL: Implosion.

HEAL: Tim Goodman.

HEAL: Blake.

VOTE: Sky.

HEAL: Sashaddin.

I've solved the game.

GG.

Do tell.

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I'm still not townreading Implosion. He feels more like he's trying to force himself to present as towny than that he's organically towny.
Not a strong read still but I feel like I should make that read known since several others seem to be townreading him.

I am strongly opposed to Implosion in coalition and somewhat opposed to Weiss in coalition.

This trajectory is starting to get on my nerves.

The best thing to do about it is probably talk more when we’re both in the thread and I’m not on phone but: your original read on me was reasonable. I think it’s totally reasonable to not-strongly not-townread me for that reason if you’re unfamiliar with my play. Where did this transition into strong opposition?

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And like...

if he's town and those reads are all right, that means all scum are in Sashaddin, Weiss Schnee, and NSG. All lurking.

I'm not exactly enthusiastic that this game is THAT easy.

I’ve also been pretty unsold on Blake... and you forgot urist is in the game.

So I have 3 decent townreads. Sue me.

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Dw skygazer, that's how I feel about Blake.

The irony.

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Hrm.

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I am close to 100% sure after the marathon that I just played with [player] that they are scum in this game.

sentences that should never be said

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I am close to 100% sure after the marathon that I just played with Quest that they are scum in this game.

I'm also going to knock Implo off of the 'trust' list because I was only considering them there for the reason of Quest's read, so.

HEAL: Tim Goodman
HEAL: Skygazer
HEAL: Sashaddin
HEAL: Blake

Final slot is reserved for whichever of PvTurist or Northsidegal shows up to the game enough to know that they're town.

I'd really, *really* love to hear more about this, including
1) do you specifically think a me-quest scumteam is a significant possibility? because that's implicit here. have you considered that team explicitly?
2) how in any way is marathon game meta capable of instilling a near-100% read in a non-marathon setting, in *any* context?
3) are you really knocking me off of the trust list for that reason? I thought you were explicitly scumreading me, or at least you were damn well implying it by saying you "strongly" didn't want me in a coalition. Why are you justifying not putting me on the list with this elaborate reasoning along the lines of "i thought quest was town, and i was trusting quest's read of imp, but i no longer trust quest so i no longer trust imp" instead of the much simpler "i scumread imp"?
4) why is weiss disincluded from the showing up later list?

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Man I sure am fuckin excited to play one of these games

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Willing to accept Blake is town now.

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Hi.

I’m going to pretend that nothing has happened in the thread since my last content post, because there’s literally nothing of value.

Basically the only read that’s changing for me is I no longer feel strong on the pyyrha slot given it was rc and this play wasn’t out of his range. I think I’m coming around on being able to be sold on skygazer but not strongly or anything. I’m also still on phone so wheeee

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The fact that quest is still 100% staunch in her reads is more than a little offputting. I’d still call her town but it’s kind of a pattern that I think happens more from scum bc it’s really convenient and easy to pull off

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I think at this point I’m also waiting for the (ugh really) half the slots in the game I see as nigh unsortable (Weiss pvt sasha nsg) to make themselves sortable (I don’t buy Sasha strong town at all yet)

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Wtf happened while I was gone

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Well I’m glad I helped

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I literally spent today at an aquarium and just got back and I’m greeted with this lmfao

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But yeah quest did so much legwork that the game was kinda trivial at that point. I was kinda close to saying fuck it and blindly sheeping there too. Very well played by her really.