Micro 873 - Game Over

[Pyrrha Nikos]

yassss welcome Pyrrha :3 :3

Your’s and Blake’s names sounds familiar for some reason.

When I read RC’s but especially Tim’s ISO, I knew I had to jump on this fast. I think I’m going to replace into games a lot more often.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I will be watching you but I will make an executive effort not to derail the game with our inevitable clashing.

???

You are aware RC replaced out, right?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Are you sure you didn't want to play with us regardless of rolecard? Tell the truth, Pyrrha, you just wanted to be a part of this fun and exciting party game that people play for fun and to relieve stress.

Well that too but if I didn’t think Tim was obvtown, I would have passed. Mafia is a stress reliever now? Wow, all of those people who teach mindful meditation and yoga, really don’t know what they’ve been missing.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Just want to add @Blake: I haven’t read anything about the game yet except my slot. I know I’m town and if I think you are too, then I don’t see why you’d think we’d be clashing?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Why are you town reading my slot even though the only parts of the game you looked at was your own slot?

I’m not. I haven’t ISO’d anyone yet except Sky and I haven’t come to a conclusion yet.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

For the record, this is a scum!Pyrrha entrance so far.

I need more to really be entirely sure (and I'm throwing out my RC read because he's a lot less readable), but the mindset she's approaching the game with doesn't suggest town.

HURT: Pyrrha.

BBL.

HURT: Blake

I won’t heal you until you stop lying about me.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Ftr, this is the exact same bs, she pulled on me in Timeshift that got me mislynched and she’s not getting another chance to fucking do this to me.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

She never voted me in that game either and when I got mislynched her hands stayed clean and it looks like once again history is going to repeat itself in this game.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

That's really cool.

Could you tell me more?

She knew I was at L-3 and in serious jeopardy of being mislynched, so she made it a point of claiming she had a strong scumlean on my slot and when I flipped town like I will here should the same situation happen, no one will sr her for it because i she is jumping on me for no reason I can tell other than she’s pissed off at RC. Why? Because if she was being honest here, she would retract the “scum entrance” crap forbthe bald face lie, she knows it is.

Because fact, I have never ever made an entrance like this as scum and that’s how I know she is lying here.

@Blake, find me the game, where I made an entrance even remotely similar to this one?

Tic tok

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Wow, that's great.

Anything else you'd like to add?

You should heal me if you’re town here.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I guess this means I don't have to dance around the identity of your main then?

You do what you want. But if you’re going to wrongly sr me, at least don’t make shit up. I barely repped in to an obvtown slot. Reread Tim again and tell me you honestly see scum there.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

She knew I was at L-3 and in serious jeopardy of being mislynched, so she made it a point of claiming she had a strong scumlean on my slot and when I flipped town like I will here should the same situation happen, no one will sr her for it because i she is jumping on me for no reason I can tell other than she’s pissed off at RC. Why? Because if she was being honest here, she would retract the “scum entrance” crap forbthe bald face lie, she knows it is.

Because fact, I have never ever made an entrance like this as scum and that’s how I know she is lying here.

Ah, that sounds like the exact scenario that we're in right now.

Thank you!

You’re welcome. I’m just trying to decide if she is once again lying scum setting up my eventual mislynch or so extremely tilted at RC, she is punishing me for it. Either way, her push on me is really shitty here. All I know is I’m not ever letting that happen to me again without a fight. Before TS, I would have auto assumed she was being bad town in this situation but after TS, I would think town!her would know better, which is why this out of left field aggressive push on me, pings me so hard because there is absolutely no basis for it.

Town!RC insisted my slot was lockscum after she set the stage with her hard scumlean on me, so why is town!her so quick to jump on me for no discernible reason whatsoever? When has scum!me ever replaced into a game, wrongly claiming I repped into an obvtown slot? In fact the exact opposite is true. I in fact had a very similar entrance in Under the sea, where you guessed right, I was also town in that game.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

You should heal me if you’re town here.

You 1st (first).

I haven’t hurt YOU.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Blake is obvious town.

I, for one, would love to know Pyrrha's main since they seem to be a huge cry baby who can't get over being mislynched in a mafia game.

Don’t even fucking go there. Wrongly sr me, vote me mislynch me whatever but don’t be something I won’t say, because you’re not worth me risking a temp ban over.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

@Quest, you’re acting like a horrible person here irrespective of your alignment and I won’t stay in this game, if you persist on making it toxic. Don’t sign up for any more games with me if you’re that unfeeling.

Skitter asked me if there was anyone I had any issues with and I hadn’t but hey congrats for successfully acquiring that gig, by being entirely bereft of any shred of empathy here.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

@Quest, I will very politely warn you. You call me that phrase one more time, there will be consequences. That’s all I will say about it here.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I will not be responding to any of Quest’s post until she treats me decently.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

If anyone else, including Blake has anything to say to me, I’m all ears. I refuse to be involved in a toxic situation.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I'm going to quote this until you actually do it.

When are you going to admit that what you said about me isn’t true or find actual evidence to back it up?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I'm going to quote this until you actually do it.

Answer my question and I’ll heal you. When have I ever made an entrance similar to this one as scum?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

HEAL: Blake

I am serious about you answering my question.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

HURT: Quest

Because they can’t believe what they’re saying about me and not have healed me yet.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

@Blake, I will catch up but I’m not either letting Quest push me out of this game or provoke me into risking a temp ban.

There is really no excuse for that kind of viciousness.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

HURT: Quest

Because they can’t believe what they’re saying about me and not have healed me yet.

Yikes.

If you really thought I was scum here, you wouldn’t have said what you did.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

You derailed the thread because you got mislynched in a previous game.

You called me a horrible person because I called you out on your derailing, and because I told you to actually read the damn game.

Yet, I'm pushing you out of this game and being vicious.

Jesus Christ.

And you called me a “cry baby” for being upset about being mislynched. I would call that “viscious”, yes because there is no reason for you to do that.

And if you actually believe that, then you should heal me. If you thought I was actually scum, you wouldn’t be saying that. Iow, you either think I’m overreacting or you don’t. It doesn’t logically add up that you think that and sr me.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Yeah, I wouldn't have called you a cry baby if you were a certain alignment in this game. You're right.

So, how do you still justify your hurt tag on me then?

If you think I’m scum, then it’s not logical for you to think I’m overreacting to being mislynched. Obviously because you can’t mislynch me if I’m scum, which I’m not here.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Why does that matter?

You're hitting the single biggest scumtell I have on you and you've been hitting it this entire time.

I've been looking to give you the space to work and to convince me that my read is wrong, and you're approaching this engagement like you think this is the only way you'll get me to back off, which is consistent with scum!Pyrrha not thinking she can fool me with her content.

If you don’t answer my question, that hurt tag is going right back on you, I will repeat: When have I ever made a similar entrance as scum?

Why won’t you answer that? If you’re seriously trying to sort me as you claim and not stupidly confibiasing me? No offense intended but your push on me reads exactly like that until you answer my question.

Because whether or not you have honestly misconstrued my meta or are lying I don’t know but your sr on my slot based on everything you’ve said so far is based on something that I 100% know to be false and I can prove it. Can you say the same?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

If you want to keep your sanity; run away from this thread, Sky.

You’re the one responsible for any “insanity” in this thread. This game was 100% civil before you decided to make it nasty.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

trusting quest's blake read because im TRing quest and even if quest was scum then quest/blake wouldnt be a S/S interaction

You’re probably right but still she should answer my question because I know for a fact, what she said about my entrance can be disproven by ISOing me and by my linking to UtS game, where my entrance in this game is most similar.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Postgame cred Pyrrha + Weiss scumteam.

I'm washing my hands of this game for a while until other slots can show up and hopefully we get word on an NSG replacement.

Postgame mockery, more like. When has town!you’s read on me ever been this out of whack? I’m not lying but do you even care about that? Do you seriously think scum!me would make a claim that could easily be proven false? Why aren’t you even at all interested in finding out the truth about your bs accusation about me regarding my entrance?

And once again, why haven’t you made any effort to answer my goddamned question yet? You say my entrance is similar to a scum one but cannot provide a single example of it. When I tell you that I can prove I did this as town, you don’t even ask for the link. Do you think I’d seriously make this up, when anyone going through my ISO could disprove it?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=400

I replaced into obvtown LA’s slot and said a comparable thing about her as I did Tim.

Anyway, Sky is my first townread in this game.

HEAL: Pyrrha

HEAL: Sky

Am I doing this right?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Cool stuff. Sky isn't town, though.

HEAL: Pyrrha.

Why not?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

yassss welcome Pyrrha :3 :3

Your’s and Blake’s names sounds familiar for some reason.

When I read RC’s but especially Tim’s ISO, I knew I had to jump on this fast. I think I’m going to replace into games a lot more often.

Are you sure you didn't want to play with us regardless of rolecard? Tell the truth, Pyrrha, you just wanted to be a part of this fun and exciting party game that people play for fun and to relieve stress.

Well that too but if I didn’t think Tim was obvtown, I would have passed. Mafia is a stress reliever now? Wow, all of those people who teach mindful meditation and yoga, really don’t know what they’ve been missing.

Hi guys, I was pretty convinced LA was town and I was right, so get those votes off of me.

Yep and she told the truth, she was indeed a town miller.

Not exactly my favourite role but I ISO’d them both and was aftraid Dave might possibly be a scum role and after Halloween Dance, I didn’t want to chance it and LA was clearly bleeding town, so I don’t understand why she is being wagoned. Can anyone tell me? Thanks.

LA read so obvtown to me, so I’m honestly baffled by the votes on her.

Yeah, I specifically requested her spot. I felt pretty sure she was town and wasn’t sure about Dave. Just seemed really genuine to me and I tr Wisdom who also tr her. Nothing I read from her seemed to be agenda driven and she just seemed pro-town on her posting. I only did a breif skim, so I’ll reread it.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

HEAL: Quest

[Pyrrha Nikos]

FTR, Nancy's play and logic here is complete trash; but she's (sadly) town.

I'm keeping my coalition as is {Quest, Implosion, Blake, Sasha, Nancy}, but if the NSG!Slot town-tells in any way, Nancy's out of my coalition. I don't have the patience to work with someone like that after what she just showed me in this thread.

Blake & Implosion are my strongest town reads and I wouldn't ever lynch them if we failed coalition today (which is looking likely since you're all town reading Sky).

What does nsg have to do with me?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Waiting game then.

I'm like 98% certain you're getting fooled by her but I don't care enough to argue it right now.

Do me a favour Blake, never again claim, you have any clue how to correctly read me, thanks. I think you’re town now, despite repeatedly failing to answer my question because of the whole bragging rights’ thing but your read on me here is actually way worse than RC’s in Timeshift, since I’m playing solo here, so I hope RC feels a lot better after mislynching me, reading this.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Winning using the coalition means working as a team; I don't see myself working with you.

It isn’t enough just to tr me? I don’t understand?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Anyway, that isn’t even what I asked you, since I’m still somewhat fuzzy on the mechanics.

My “why not” was in regards to Sky, as in why isn’t she town here?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

If it was enough, I'd have left the game a long time ago.

I have no idea what you’re talking about now.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

So, I can vote any 5 players into coalition? Can I do it separately or do I have to do it all at once?

Because I just replaced in and still haven’t read the game, so I obviously don’t have 5 yet. The only person other than my slot I’ve ISO’d so far is Sky and this sounds like town!Sky to me but if you can tell me why you think she’s scum, that would be much appreciated.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

If an all-town coalition is passed by 5 players

Wrong quote, you get the idea.

Yeah, I understand the mechanic but we have to do it with HEAL tags, correct?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

On day 1 each player may vote to add members to a 5-player coalition - please use HEAL: and HURT: tags to add and remove players from your coalition, respectively.
If an all-town coalition is passed by 5 players, town instantly wins. Otherwise, the game continues as mountainous.
You may vote for yourself
The setup is confirmed 7:2 and scum have daytalk

NM, just read this.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

You need to work as a team in every mafia game, but more so in this setup:

1) No one's not going to include themselves in their own coalition.
2) If my coalition is {A, B, C, D, E}, F isn't just going to randomly vote my coalition (especially when you consider the above).
3) This means that I need {B, C, D, E} to work with me if I want my coalition to go through.

It's not a hard concept, and it's silly that I've got to explain this.

Treat me like I’m dumb or 5 then. We need to “work together” more than agreeing on the same 5 players? And why wouldn’t I include myself in coalition? I know I’m town, so no coalition would fail with my slot in it obviously, despite Blake being wrongly confibiased on me.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

You can do it separately. You should probably hurt all before anything, and then heal your actual town reads since RC probably had some people healed before you (too lazy to check).

Oh okay.

HURT: All

I guess?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Treat me like I’m dumb or 5 then. We need to “work together” more than agreeing on the same 5 players? And why wouldn’t I include myself in coalition? I know I’m town, so no coalition would fail with my slot in it obviously, despite Blake being wrongly confibiased on me.

Sure.

What I'm saying is if I town read someone that disagrees with parts of my reads; it's going to be hard to work with them. If for example, you're sold on Sky being town, and I'm sold on Sky being scum; we won't work very well together.

I think you and I will have synergy issues this game based on how it started which will make it harder for us to work together; I hope it's not the case but it's the impression that I got.

I worded 1) wrong, I think. I was trying to say that no one will exclude themselves from their own coalition.

Oh okay, that makes sense. Well I obviously want coalition to go through, so as long as I’m not sr anyone in yours or whomever’s, I won’t try to derail it. It’s not like anything bad will happen to anyone not in it, so getting a town coalition agreed on by 5 players is what is most important.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

HEAL: Pyrrha obviously.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I want both Sky and Quest in my coalition.

HEAL: Sky HEAL: Quest

Call them gutreads. I’m actually pretty good at that.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

As a side note, I guess I should explain my scum read on Sky soonish considering 3 people in my coalition seem to be town reading her.

I will get started on this now, expect something within an hour or two.

Also, I am more than happy with outing my main if it helps anyone (it won't).

I thought I knew who you were but after ISOing, I was wrong.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

HEAL: Implosion

Skimmed through half the game now.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Sky is almost a townlock on rereading. No way she ever flips scum here.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

@Quest, you don’t know how to read Sky.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Tell me that after she flips scum.

HURT: Sky

Maybe you’re right, most of her posts are about others’ reads on her slot. :/

[Pyrrha Nikos]

You’re currently my most confident townread, so I’ll probably sheep who’s ever in your coalition.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

You’re currently my most confident townread, so I’ll probably sheep who’s ever in your coalition.

That was meant for Quest btw.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

What is scum!sky looking to do here exactly?

That's my main problem with the scumreads on her.

I’m not sr her but I could also see these posts coming from scum!her. I’m trusting Quest most this game. Ironic considering how our interactions started but I disagree with Implosion. Her ISO never comes from scum.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

@Blake, how much of your Weiss sr is based on him tr my slot?

And I still don’t understand why you sr my entrance?

However, reading your ISO, makes me realize I was wrong about it having anything to do with RC.

You do need to take into account now and going forward that I will always be suspicious of you pushing me for reasons that you still have yet to back up. Sorry but TS is a game changer for me and it would still really help a lot if you’d explain that to me.

Slight tl on you for now.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

There's actually a really simple deductive logic you can use this game to know that Ankamius is scum.

I am good enough as scum to fool Ankamius if Ankamius is town -> Ankamius will incorrectly townread me.
I am also clear enough town as town that Ankamius doesn't misread me outside of the context of paranoia of my slot.

Ankamius pretending that they don't know my identity means that they aren't scumreading me because of that... so there's really no excuse for them scumreading me.

Wait, RC=Tim?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

You can call it quits on trying to pretend that you don't know who I am. I suck at anonymous alting, I am aware of that.

Wow. I really had no idea.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=RAS

A lot of things make sense to me now.

Spoiler:

I really was a mess for like weeks, which is why I wasn’t going to sign up for this but Nero, Ramcius and Krazy helped snap me back into shape. Finding out that both Roster and Ank were scum, played a major role. So, I had a major loss of confidence in my ability to play properly and I *fingers crossed*, hopefully think that’s over now.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

i think youre reading too much into things; in my mind ank is almost definitely town because ur read on her is so strong that if ur town its true and if ur scum then ank almost definitely wouldn't be scum w you; i don't see how that leaves a lot of options open w ank and when i'm scum i actually have a lot more conviction/certainty in my reads because im fine with committing to something as scum and generalllyyyyy know what i need to commit to to advance my win condition

I’ve seen you have strong convictions as town.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Sky is almost a townlock on rereading. No way she ever flips scum here.

VOTE: sky

*insert gif of that guy going ohhhh while the crowd goes wild behind him*

That was me finding out Roster was actually scum in TS.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I was reading Tim as town, but the ton of posts made by his replacement speaking to Quest and Blake need to be analyzed. I'm not too good at spotting TvT ot SvS, but usually I can tell TvS. I wil try to do this when the wife and kids are sleeping. Most content is something regarding other games but maybe I can learn from this, eh.
Regarding PvTUrist, he was in my coalition because all my heals were people I had played with. I'm taking him out too until I have a better idea of him or his replacement.
HURT: PvTUrist, Pyrrha
I noticed a lot of beef lately, I hope no one quits again
I'll be back later.

So

analyze

them then. You’re hurting me but not giving any explanation for it at all?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Weiss-Sky is interesting too. I'm rooting for Sky though.

What?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

VOTE: Sashaddin

Can we vote to lynch as well as for coalition?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I don't think I'm reading too much into anything here.

You left your options open by saying "

even if Quest is scum, etc.

".

breaking news: skygazer doesn't know with 100% certainty that a townread is town

But NO ONE does.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

i find it hard to play in a game and have fun where a friend was basically pushed out even if i do love this playerlist

RC has pretty much siteflaked.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I wasn't wrong that you were a shit player, nice.

Either I dictate the coalition solo or I dictate the three lynches.

I'm going to stop posting in this game until everyone decides which it is.

How about you dictate not posting so I don't have to read your shit posts?

HEAL: Blake Belladonna
HEAL: Quest
HEAL: Skygazer
HEAL: implosion
HEAL: Sashaddin

Hurt Sky, and wait. I don't think she's town.

Prodging, cya. I'm not putting any further effort if I have to play with a delusional human being like RC.

radientcowbells has asked to be replaced

Nice.

Yes RC didn’t deserve this but he still pretty much did siteflake. He has been down on mafia since he mislynched me in TS.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

bye ):

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I love how RC consistently does this to people, yet people befriend him and try to defend him when it happens to him.

That's going to be a yikes from me if you're actually bailing.

People really don’t understand RC. But you wouldn’t know that from just playing mafia with him.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

RULES

adapted from Plotinus

important bit

• 10 day dayphases, 2 day night phases
  
• Majority lynches
  
• 48 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement
  
• Please note that I'm regularly v/la for part of the weekend; I do my best to provide vcs/flips/prods/etc as expediently as possible, but over the weekend it may take a little longer for me to do so

Setup: Coalition Mafia

• On day 1 each player may vote to add members to a 5-player coalition - please use HEAL: and HURT: tags to add and remove players from your coalition, respectively.
  
• If an all-town coalition is passed by 5 players, town instantly wins. Otherwise, the game continues as mountainous.
  
• You may vote for yourself
  
• The setup is confirmed 7:2 and scum have daytalk

1. Follow all site rules
   
   
2. Mod colour
   – My mod colour is
   #8000FF
   ; i don't really care if you use it so long as you don't try to impersonate me or anything
   
3. Behaviour
   - Don’t be a dick. This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you do not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself lynched if you try it.
   
4. Don't talk about ongoing games
   - You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
   
5. Tiny text
   - Should not be used (ie the smallest text size should be the regular size font)
   
6. Provable randomness
   - is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
   
7. Claiming scum
   - by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.
   
8. Cryptography
   - is forbidden. Breadcrumbing is okay.
   
9. Confirmation
   - You have about 48 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM; if you do not, you will be replaced. The game will start once 7/9 players confirm. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
   
10. Days
    - Dayphases last 10 days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements, or if the majority of players make it clear to me that an extension is desired.
    
11. Activity
    - You must post at least once every 48 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. Players can request me to prod somebody early. This will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod.
    
12. Vacation/Limited Access
    If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare
    V/LA
    in bold in the thread like this: [
    b]

    @Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday

    [
    /b]. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.
    
13. Prodging
    - A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer. To avoid being prodded/replaced for inactivity, include some game advancing content in your prodges, such as "got prodded; xxxx is still scum."
    
14. Quoting
    - You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.
    
15. Voting
    - Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: skitter or
    Vote: skitter
    . Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type [
    v]Plotinus[
    /v] to vote and [
    uv]Plotinus[
    /uv] to unvote.
    
16. Lynching
    - Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to lynch somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no lynch, the day will end without a lynch. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no lynch.
    
17. Twilight
    - Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.
    
18. Night
    - Night lasts at least 48 hours. The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.
    
19. Action submissions
    - You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
    
20. Play to win
    - this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!

@mod, can you lynch on the same day you vote a coalition and how does this work?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Hello, Nancy.

May I interest you in ending the game? If so, this is the game-winning coalition: {

quest, implosion, sashaddin, blake belladonna, pyrrha nikos

}.

Thanks.

Why sashaddin?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

HEAL: Raya36, PvtUrist, Pyrrha Nikos, implosion, Weiss Schnee

Skygazer works too

Both scum are inside Sashaddin/Blake/Quest

Quest is flaming town.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Hey everyone! Working on getting caught up now

This is a totally NAI post, Weiss.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

raya36 replaces nsg, please welcome her!

Oh okay, makes a bit more sense but NSG is still NAI for me.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Nancy stop scumclaiming when I have the game solved thanks

???

And please refer to me as Pyrrha, thanks.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Hello, {

implosion, sashaddin, pyrrha nikos

}.

May I interest you in ending the game? If so, this is the game-winning coalition: {

quest, implosion, sashaddin, blake belladonna, pyrrha nikos

}.

Thanks.

HEAL: Quest, Implosion, sashaddin, Blake Belladonna, Pyrrha Nikos

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Healing Raya is based on thinking 2 scum is in RAS/Ank/Sasha and town you should be able to understand that without it needing to be explained

And no, RAS is not "flaming town"

Nancy stop scumclaiming when I have the game solved thanks

Forgive me for not finding this to be exactly persuasive.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

HEAL: Raya36, PvtUrist, Skygazer, implosion, Weiss Schnee

I don't trust Nancy now either she's doing the thing where she seems to not get nuance

You’re basically sr me because I don’t understand wtf you’re even talking about?

And stop calling me Nancy, Krazy!

Pyrrha, call me Pyrrha, kthanx.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

You don't have to find it persuasive but

you should have comprehended it

Are you trolling me with this?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

You’re basically sr me because I don’t understand wtf you’re even talking about?

You tend to not understand a lot of things when you're scum

I don’t understand because you’re not making any freaking sense.

I think this read is disingenuous from you.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

And no, no one is going to bully me into doing jack. You can’t scare me with bs scumreads, Weiss. It sounds like you’re trying to bully me into sheeping you because you know what a basket case I was after Timeshift. Where as Quest is you know, actually making cases and

giving reasons

- iow, making sense. You might want to try that.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Are you trolling me with this?

Well you just healed a coalition with Quest, Blake, and Sashaddin so why exactly would I think you are town?

Why would I think you are? I ask you for reasons and your response is to tell me to “stop scumclaiming”? How is that ever a town response to that?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I'm being "disingenuous"?

Read your own iso irt Sashaddin

I haven’t said anything about that slot until Quest asked me to vote them into coalition. If otoh, you mean Tim/RC, then you should specify that.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Why? If I'm not in the coalition then either town wins without me or I don't have to do anything until like day 3 since we lynch in the coalition first. If I do literally nothing and stay out of the coalition then I can just continue to cruise and then scumhunt if the game isn't won by you all carrying. There's really very little reason to present towniness unless I am really sure I have to be in the coalition to win, and right now I'm not sure of that because half the player list is being replaced.

*shrug*

This is the same person who's currently disagreeing with a coalition.

Town!Krazy would make an actual case and give reasons why I should sheep him, not jump on me and accuse me of “scumclaiming” for failing to fall into line, according to him. He wrongly thinks that I’m so terrified of being mislynched again, that I’ve apparently had a lobotomy or something.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I don't have enough content from Weiss to make a read yet. I'd like to wait on that read after a response to my question

Spoiler:

Hint: scum

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Why? If I'm not in the coalition then either town wins without me or I don't have to do anything until like day 3 since we lynch in the coalition first. If I do literally nothing and stay out of the coalition then I can just continue to cruise and then scumhunt if the game isn't won by you all carrying. There's really very little reason to present towniness unless I am really sure I have to be in the coalition to win, and right now I'm not sure of that because half the player list is being replaced.

*shrug*

This is the same person who's currently disagreeing with a coalition.

Town!Krazy would make an actual case and give reasons why I should sheep him, not jump on me and accuse me of “scumclaiming” for failing to fall into line, according to him. He wrongly thinks that I’m so terrified of being mislynched again, that I’ve apparently had a lobotomy or something.

I would ignore Krazy's post if I were you; his thoughts are very disconnected and I don't think he believes half of the stuff he's saying. Regardless, you're not being mislynched this game since we're ending the game today.

I understand that. I mean he’s clearly trying to manipulate me with the threat of that, which is really shitty of him to do, irrespective of his alignment. But I’ve played enough games with town!Krazy to know he never jumps on me like this. Unless this was some seriously bizarro reaction test from him, I’m going to lean scum.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Who's harder to work with Sasha, or Raya?

I understand Raya’s posts better but that’s probably because English isn’t Sasha’s native language.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Why? If I'm not in the coalition then either town wins without me or I don't have to do anything until like day 3 since we lynch in the coalition first. If I do literally nothing and stay out of the coalition then I can just continue to cruise and then scumhunt if the game isn't won by you all carrying. There's really very little reason to present towniness unless I am really sure I have to be in the coalition to win, and right now I'm not sure of that because half the player list is being replaced.

*shrug*

This is the same person who's currently disagreeing with a coalition.

Town!Krazy would make an actual case and give reasons why I should sheep him, not jump on me and accuse me of “scumclaiming” for failing to fall into line, according to him. He wrongly thinks that I’m so terrified of being mislynched again, that I’ve apparently had a lobotomy or something.

I would ignore Krazy's post if I were you; his thoughts are very disconnected and I don't think he believes half of the stuff he's saying. Regardless, you're not being mislynched this game since we're ending the game today.

I understand that. I mean he’s clearly trying to manipulate me with the threat of that, which is really shitty of him to do, irrespective of his alignment. But I’ve played enough games with town!Krazy to know he never jumps on me like this. Unless this was some seriously bizarro reaction test from him, I’m going to lean scum.

I know you barely know me, and I barely know you. I'm also aware that we started on a bad foot, but I'm confident that 2/3 of the scum is in {Sky/Urist/Weiss}.

I couldn't tell you what Krazy is trying to accomplish, and that's why I've decided to ignore his posts completely. I don't even think he knows what he's trying to accomplish at this point either.

Krazy also knows that I’m very stubborn with locking down my townreads and I don’t believe he sr you here. I can believe it since Urist hasn’t done virtually any scumhunting, which he has done in every towngame I’ve played with him in.

When I was scum with Ank in BoP, Krazy also aggressively jumped on us but he gave reasons that actually made sense. Town!Krazy doesn’t call someone scum for either not agreeing with them or asking them for explanations.

Krazy is obviously panicking, because he knows your coalition will be successful, would be my guess and he wants to derail it.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I really need more from urich before calling him scum

What makes you say scum from what we have to work with so far?

He's done this whole 'hold cards close to chest' thing before in another game I've seen from him, but before it was still pretty clear he was at least trying to do something.

He has done nothing here except pop in once and throw a coalition out there before vanishing again.

So it could make sense with meta, however I don't see this being a good strategy at all as scum?

I can confirm Blake is correct on Urist meta. In MD as well as nsg micro I hydra’d with Purrcocet, he absolutely did do this and I should have listened to him, because he correctly nailed scum!Duck.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I agree that he's panicking, his interactions with Blake earlier in the game clearly shows that he didn't care at all who was in the coalition. He also showed a huge sign of not giving a fuck about this game. Yet all of a sudden, he's showing a huge amount of concern and interest now that I'm pushing for this coalition.

It's not a coincidence.

Yeah and his early interactions with me read a bit like a pocket but yeah, his behaviour is so extremely and illogically inconsistent, I don’t see how that ever comes from town. He totally fucked up with that “scumclaiming” comment, that was a huge red flag to me.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Here, Raya

Implosion=FG?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Just went over the pyrrha slot.

As I mentioned in my first post I liked Tim from the beginning. He seemed to be genuinely scumhunting and after my reread I see genuine frustration before replacing out. Not much can be said on RC because of limited posts.

Just read through Pyrrha and I can settle with a heal here.

HEAL: pyrrha nikos

pedit Thanks Blake

Tim is an RC alt, yeah fooled me too.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Is Raya in the coalition, because she damn well should be?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

@mod, can you lynch on the same day you vote a coalition and how does this work?

a lynch can happen after a coalition resolves (and fails obviously). if a lynch is chosen before a coalition is chosen, the lynch will be 'on hold' so to speak until the coalition resolves, at which person the lynched person will be lynched and the day ends

Okay thanks, hopefully that won’t be necessary.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Raya, can you trust {Me, Blake, Pyrrha} and heal Implosion?

No deal for having Sasha instead of Implosion?

I was reading Tim as town, but the ton of posts made by his replacement speaking to Quest and Blake need to be analyzed. I'm not too good at spotting TvT ot SvS, but usually I can tell TvS. I wil try to do this when the wife and kids are sleeping. Most content is something regarding other games but maybe I can learn from this, eh.
Regarding PvTUrist, he was in my coalition because all my heals were people I had played with. I'm taking him out too until I have a better idea of him or his replacement.
HURT: PvTUrist, Pyrrha
I noticed a lot of beef lately, I hope no one quits again
I'll be back later.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

HURT: Sasha.

HEAL: Quest.
HEAL: Raya36.
HEAL: Blake Belladona.
HEAL: Pyrrha Nikos.
HEAL: Implosion.

Let's go, Raya.

HURT: Sasha

HEAL: Quest, Raya36, Blake Belladonna, Pyrrha Nikos, implosion

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I was reading Tim as town, but the ton of posts made by his replacement speaking to Quest and Blake need to be analyzed. I'm not too good at spotting TvT ot SvS, but usually I can tell TvS. I wil try to do this when the wife and kids are sleeping. Most content is something regarding other games but maybe I can learn from this, eh.
Regarding PvTUrist, he was in my coalition because all my heals were people I had played with. I'm taking him out too until I have a better idea of him or his replacement.
HURT: PvTUrist, Pyrrha
I noticed a lot of beef lately, I hope no one quits again
I'll be back later.

Sasha’s town for hurting Urist.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

And no, no one is going to bully me into doing jack. You can’t scare me with bs scumreads, Weiss.

You literally just coalitioned someone for no reason that you seemed to suspect

I trust Quest as locktown and you’re accusing me of “scumclaiming” for no reason definitely helped. I think coalition passes with any 5/6 of Quest/Raya/Implosion/Blake/Sasha and of course me.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

weiss shnee has requested replacement

I joined this game, specifically because of Krazy. He wanted me to make a Nora nic but I found Pyrrha more relatable. :/

[Pyrrha Nikos]

HEAL: Weiss, Blake, Quest, Implosion

Give me a fifth and let's maybe just try to end this fucking game already

HEAL: Weiss, Blake, Pyrrha, Quest, Implosion

Really tho how is sasha town, he just said "HMM SKY v WEISS IS INTERESTING" and then went and wandered off

HURT: Blake

K I guess we're not doing this today after all

VOTE: Blake

See you in two days when more than 3 slots are readable

How do you go from wanting Blake in your coalition to voting to lynch her in a very few posts, posted practically right after the other?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I'm scum with Blake.

@Mod, scum team has conceded, can we call it here?

You got us, I'm scum with Blake.

How does anyone read this as a “concession”?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Both scum are inside Sashaddin/Blake/Quest

Blake can you confirm your concession with RAS so that this game can be over instead of waiting for replacements?

You seem overly worried for someone who didn't even read this game, Krazy.

Blake you're betting the game on this being town, as town, just to be clear

Are you trolling me with this?

Well you just healed a coalition with Quest, Blake, and Sashaddin so why exactly would I think you are town?

Weiss’ clearly doesn’t believe Blake’s scum. Town!Krazy doesn’t make these kind of illogical contradictions.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Alright, I wanted to be in the coalition for purely ego-related reasons
HURT: Sashaddin
HEAL: Quest, Raya36, Blake Belladonna, Pyrrha Nikos, implosion
Sorry if I make a mistake I still don't like the shift of tone around 150...

I really hope this is gg

I know I’m town and I agree with Quest’s scum POE. Weiss literally called you scum, then within a very few posts, addresses you as if you’re town. So, he seems to be employing the same technique on you as he did me.

I can’t wait for Krazy to roll jester, it would be epic.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

this coalition passes - all of quest, implosion, blake belladonna, raya36, and pyrrha nikos are town!

town

wins!

scum were skygazer and pvturist; i'll have the links posted in a few minutes; scum have 48 hours to request redactions

Sorry @Weiss. :/

I started to have doubts after your replace out but you were acting so scummy.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

this coalition passes - all of quest, implosion, blake belladonna, raya36, and pyrrha nikos are town!

town

wins!

scum were skygazer and pvturist; i'll have the links posted in a few minutes; scum have 48 hours to request redactions

\o/

@Weiss please don’t make these kind of strange posts in the future. Sorry, I sr you. <3

[Pyrrha Nikos]

various links:

game thread: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=79751
mod thread: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=79748
scum thread: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=79749
dead thread: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=79750

It said, I’m “not authorized to read this topic”.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Sky is almost a townlock on rereading. No way she ever flips scum here.

i am printing this out and putting it on my fridge [ :

Well, thankfully Quest changed my mind about that. I knew his reasoning was town, so I trusted it.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

guessing that scum are 2/3 of {quest, blake, implosion}

Well, now you know how RC mislynched me in TS.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

which one?

Scum PT

[Pyrrha Nikos]

i did the longest self meta dive ive ever done to try and win this but it wasnt effective and quest : [

You also didn’t do your towntell here. And scum!you posts a lot of words that doesn’t have a lot of conviction. I think my reads on you will keep getting better and better.

I honestly don’t know about Krazy, he needs to stop contradicting himself. If you try to lynch people, then talk to them as if they’re town, it’s really hard to tr that.

His opening was fine though.

So, as long as Sky/Urist was not in coalition, Weiss’ would have also given us the win.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

blake i still don't understand how you could have possibly sr me without having a strong alt guess
every other town and scum in the game tr me and you just happened to be the one person who could have easily figured out who i am

I knew your slot was obvtown or I never would have replaced into it. I’m sorry you replaced out though.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

It was the way you were playing around me, RC.

Ank, I think you need to accept you no longer have any clue how to read me.

Quest was the main reason we won. After TS and you hard pushing me here, I didn’t have the confidence to sheep you. I locktown read Quest as well as trusted his reads, so it was easy to sheep him.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

i'm not sorry that I replaced out.

i had an awful weekend and i really didn't need to think about this game during it.

*HUGS*

I hope I did your slot proud anyhow?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I was scumreading you because you weren't sorting, Pyrrha.

Once you actually did go through the thread and started posting things that weren't related to my scumread, I started townreading you.

But you shouldn’t expect me not to react the way I did, especially after TS. I really thought you were scum setting me up for another mislynch and I will probably respond similar to you in future games, if you do that, because now I know, you’re more than capable of doing that me as scum and that’s sad because I tr you mostly because of Quest.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

town would have won this game with or without quest

If Quest had been scum, he could have very easily gotten me to mislynch Ank. He was the only one in the game I 100% trusted to sheep.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

blake was all over the place and their most certain scumread was on town

also just because you townread town!quest doesn't mean you'd have townread scum!uest

Oh yeah I know. It’s just that I hard sr Ank’s initial push on me, so it wouldn’t have taken too much to sway me in that direction.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Thanks I'm starting to remember why I wanted to quit again

Not my intention at all. I wouldn’t sr you for similar play like in Topaz, because I hard townread you in that and would even now but it’s also my default reaction to hard sr a slot who hard pushes me

when I think I’m being obvtown.

I know you and others didn’t view me that way but I 100% did.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Gg everyone. Thanks for modding @Skitter.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

thank you for modding skitter and duck !!!

Oh yeah, how could I ever forget the duck? <3

*QUACK*