Krazy's Anime Upick (Game Over)

[PJ.]

ego

[PJ.]

I haven't started reading yet, I was sleeping for work, I'm going to read now.

But I'm *pretty sure* claiming now is the right call, but I'm vengeful with a time-activated miller clause. So...Hello.

[PJ.]

Did I accidentally flame skygrazer on pokemon showdown?

[PJ.]

Also I support the use of anime gifs from post-2001

Reported

[PJ.]

@alisae, congrats on silver 2. I'll play mafia in like 10 minutes...maybe. flavor leaf feels scum to me so far.

[PJ.]

Just claim straight up like I did.

Tempting, but far less fun.
Here's a hint tho:

You're also a yu yu hakusho character, huh?

[PJ.]

I haven't started reading yet, I was sleeping for work, I'm going to read now.

But I'm *pretty sure* claiming now is the right call, but I'm vengeful with a time-activated miller clause. So...Hello.

If this is true then you should specify how the time activated clause works.

Ok. Uh..so..I have a power level mechanic that raises per night. Once I hit a certain power level, I become a miller.

[PJ.]

But I'm *pretty sure* claiming now is the right call, but I'm vengeful with a time-activated miller clause. So...Hello.

I mean.
Krazy would be one to put two millers in a game, but.
While he would.
And could.

I just think Panzer's scum, sooooo.

I'm literally confirmable if I get investigated before and after my miller clause activates so if a miller is lying, it probably would be the one that has a role isn't confirmable.

[PJ.]

Ok. Uh..so..I have a power level mechanic that raises per night. Once I hit a certain power level, I become a miller.

Why would that be a town perk? I call bs.

I can't explain why but as I told mastina, I'm confirmable.

Also, what is my motivation to lie and what is source of the lie? Do you honestly think I'm creative enough to create this on the spot with nothing serving as a base to build the lie around?

[PJ.]

My reads right now are flavor leaf and mastina seem most scum.

[PJ.]

too many posts that seem to serve no purpose. mild early gut read. its weak, but its ok for a first vote. and because mastina asked me to.

Honestly, alisae is just a LUV-level spammer. I don't think it's a tell either way for them. But like, as much as I like alisae, I'm fine with a policy lynch on them cause the spam posting dilutes the information available to us as town.


Pedit: @cheeky I definitely didn't like the early reads list, along with a few other questionable posts. Wasn't a fan of her bringing up the two millers as a basis for me lying, felt like being fake helpful.

[PJ.]

Also like...it's 1-4 am in america....

[PJ.]

Fair

[PJ.]

I'm detective conan irl, ez game.

[PJ.]

I'm a remake, if that narrows it down.

Umm fruits basket?

No.

I'm assuming if you're saying you're a remake, that means you're the remake, as in something that was made early and remade with the "long 90s"

[PJ.]

Gif unrelated?

[PJ.]

Feels like boogiepop

[PJ.]

Alisae shitposting is null. That's just what alisae does. They are pretty cool.

[PJ.]

Alisae shitposting is null. That's just what alisae does. They are pretty cool.

Exactly and any half competent player know such is the case for mostly everyone. Mr 4Ts here trying to frame it scumy is icky.

I don't think it's the same for everyone and I do believe there are strategic shitposters, but alisae is just a thoroughbred. They have like 25k game post.

[PJ.]

And again, I'd like to make clear I'm fine with lynching them on policy despite liking them, but I find it anti-town despite it being a null-tell.

But, I think we're going to have better options, tbh. I'm digging mastina as scum still. 4T creeping towards the bottom too.

[PJ.]

Sorry not 4t. 4t is fine. Chaos wind.

[PJ.]

And again, I'd like to make clear I'm fine with lynching them on policy despite liking them, but I find it anti-town despite it being a null-tell.

But, I think we're going to have better options, tbh. I'm digging mastina as scum still. 4T creeping towards the bottom too.

First time you mentioned Mastina as scum. Is this because they challenged you on the Miller claim?

This feels like an arbitrary read ngl.

Read my iso better

[PJ.]

@alisae: it's not opportunistic if it's always my stance on you though, right?
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I think Shiro got the wrong guy. Chaos Wind seemed like the big "alisae is a scummy shitposter" then 4T seemed like they were memeing about it. Idk. I think bad reading comprehension/memory not scum. (I also thought 4T was bad for a second but re-read and it was CW)

[PJ.]

I'm literally confirmable if I get investigated before and after my miller clause activates so if a miller is lying, it probably would be the one that has a role isn't confirmable.

Alternative explanation: you're a godfather who starts with the godfather power but who loses the godfather status later in the game and thus becomes susceptible to investigation.

That seems like a Krazy role to me. And the obvious thing to do with that power is to claim time-delayed miller.

Counter point: I haven't played a theme game in it's entirety since like..2012 and I play 2 mafia games a year. I'm both too dumb to know time-delayed roles exist and completely ignorant of Krazy'Krazy's possible mechanics to make that kind of play.

[PJ.]

ego

I'd like to point out--this was Panzer's first post.
Why not roleclaim here?

Maybe, just maybe, because Panzer was at the time of that post, asking the mod to craft him a fakeclaim, and it was only in his later post that he had the mod's help.

Explaining why he didn't claim it out of the gate.

Because I opened my role pm right before then and the time was 6:12pm pst. I work at 10:30pm pst and needed to sleep cause I was getting less than 4 hours of sleep as it was because i stayed up to play a pokemon showdown tournament in a different community with an ms moderator and merely wanted to ego the thread. Do you want a picture of my work schedule and/or proof that I was in a streamed pokemon tournament yesterday? I can very much provide both.

And honestly, you sound like kind of a crazy person. An ego is just an ego, kid.

[PJ.]

Or you could play into the game normally and just not care about that

Sure.
Panzer's scum without his roleclaim anyway.
There.

All you've talked about is the role claim.

[PJ.]

Whatever. Mastina is Def a mason. Fuck this game. Now we're gonna be driven to a massive L by an insane person.

[PJ.]

If you lynch me, I'll just vengekill mastina. So go ahead. Lynch me.

[PJ.]

I'd 100% vengeful a mason to get hard confirm elsa and put someone who actually knows how to play effective mafia in a position of power. I'd argue that it's literally the most pro-town thing that I could do. So please, help me help town.

[PJ.]

I'd 100% vengeful a mason to get hard confirm elsa and put someone who actually knows how to play effective mafia in a position of power. I'd argue that it's literally the most pro-town thing that I could do. So please, help me help town.

Panzer
just listen to Ali
Ali will keep you sane ;D

I'm sheeping detective furret or pink ball cause they placed a hella confident alchemist vote in the middle of a shit storm of unrelated players.

[PJ.]

1) cause she's probably a real mason
2) cause she's probably a mason and we just spent pages memeing about cookies and most of the content has been seeping mating
3) Cause I've only seen garbage play so far
4) UwU


Pedit: honestly I didn't know what Titus was getting at and I'm kind of checked out until something interesting happens.

[PJ.]

I thought the ending of HnG was kinda wack but I really liked the main conflict between hikaru and sai

[PJ.]

Cookies are overrated

[PJ.]

My b on thinking he scum read alisae because it was a town read, but chaos/wind started the conversation about alisae''s alignment in relation to his post volume. I felt 4t was memeing more than being serious or implying alisae was scummy - i.e asking a question for scum alisae and town alisae. I feel out of the 3 people involved in that conversation Chaos/wind looked like they had the biggest agenda in making alisae's post volume indicative of their role.

[PJ.]

Conversation starts post 444.

[PJ.]

That show was gross and so are your cookies.

[PJ.]

Is creature typically a lurker? Is it a forgetting to be a hydra thing?

[PJ.]

Mmm. I like this assessment of reassessment.

vote: TTTT

[PJ.]

Mmm. I like this assessment of reassessment.

vote: TTTT

YUS my cookies worked.

[PJ.]

What part?

[PJ.]

Actually, that's a dumb scummy question cause it's all legit.

I'm vengeful and shooting mastina if I get lynched. If there's something I'm overlooking, feel free to ask and I'll clarify

[PJ.]

Mmm. I like this assessment of reassessment.

vote: TTTT

YUS my cookies worked.

Dude, we need to talk. He's getting the dark cookies tonight or tomorrow.

Dark cookies? Like double fudge?

[PJ.]

Shiro, I request chocolate cookie with chocolate chips. Or maybe a brookie.

[PJ.]

mason. I will hurt mason. singular.

[PJ.]

hurt me bb

[PJ.]

I do believe it.

Cause it's a really dumb fucking gambit.

[PJ.]

well...like..if you don't believe the claim and I would kill her even if she was town, why don't we just do that instead of cookie toasting over 4T being a chronic reassess-er ?

unvote, vote mastina

[PJ.]

well..i'll keep the milk cool.

[PJ.]

I'm an Omega not a Beta.

[PJ.]

I may or may not have tried to submit multiple pokemon and got shot down by my hydra partner

-Wind

I should've done western cartoons and call them western animes.

I managed to slip by with a technically japanese animation from western source material

Lilo and stitch cartoon is that old?

[PJ.]

Lol late game player.

[PJ.]

I thought the ending of HnG was kinda wack but I really liked the main conflict between hikaru and sai

I mean, same with Death Note. Same creator/artist. Makes sense.

bakumn was lit

[PJ.]

1) cause she's probably a real mason
3) Cause I've only seen garbage play so far

As a vig.
Would you fucking vig an innocent child because you thought their play was garbage?

Fuck no, you'd be fucking banned for gamethrowing for that.

This is literally no fucking different than that, and yet it's Panzer's logic for justifying his threat.

I would. You think I care about a mafia ban?

[PJ.]

Panzer is dead on the inside so technically correct

cheeky...i thought we were friends.

[PJ.]

So I've brushed my hair now XD

congrats

[PJ.]

It's okay, titus is a LaTe GaMe PlAyEr

[PJ.]

So I can look back at it in post game and Pat myself on the back regardless of outcome: FL is scum or 3p.

i agree with this assessmnt but someone town told me i was wrong =(


can we just lynch titus now? she seems p scummy. the whole using information she created in her head to make a VCA is both hilarious and anti-town.

also, if she isn't going to be useful when it's hardest, there are several people here that will be fine at catching the bad guys when it's easiest

[PJ.]

Titus doesn't get lynched today for a couple of reasons. Make your case and then hunt elsewhere.

Why not? So we can lynch Cheeky because why exactly? I find the whole process of like, "we can't lynch x player yet" to be complete bullshit. What has titus contributed other than sheep mastina who's a maybe possible fake claim mason and certified bad player and make up head canon as to why the vote count happened and make bad jokes about "dark cookies"? How is this of any use to us a town? Lynch the scummy players and lynch the bad players. This "we can't lynch people yet" stuff is bullshit. Mastina claimed mason so I don't mind dropping that but titus hasn't claimed shit and has been a net negative.

unvote, Vote: Titus

[PJ.]

Why is it important that he care about his counter wagon? This sounds like you have an agenda to push.

[PJ.]

What do ya mean, I'm just saying she wants you dead so why wouldn't she try to herd people onto you?????????? I'm asking for a friend here.

Because of some moon logic VCA and the masons? Sounds like an opportunistic excuse.

I say we just lynch the moon logic vca

[PJ.]

Whatever. Mastina is Def a mason. Fuck this game. Now we're gonna be driven to a massive L by an insane person.

you got an implication here thinking that panzer was going to

kill

Mastina?

if anything to me it feels like the resigned tone of someone who is irritated and can't do anything about it

-chaos

But he could if he avenged her, which is the idea we both had simultaneously

Tbf, I got the idea from your post.

[PJ.]

Wait...FL claimed mason with the miller?

This is a weird game. But we can lynch mastina now?

[PJ.]

Are we sure it's a joke and we can't lynch mastina?

[PJ.]

Stop trying to make fetch happen.

[PJ.]

I would. You think I care about a mafia ban?

Case and point for why Panzer's play here is only acceptable as scum and if town is utterly inexcusable.

Why is it excusable and not bannable when you play in a game throwing manner but inexcusable and bannable when I play in a game throwing manner?

[PJ.]

Why is it excusable and not bannable when you play in a game throwing manner but inexcusable and bannable when I play in a game throwing manner?

Because what I did wasn't game-throwing. Claiming mason had a legitimate game purpose; it exposed scum in a way which couldn't be done otherwise. Becoming conftown on D1 is also not inherently a bad thing. Yes, it means that the masons die fairly early on, but that's not inherently a bad thing because I don't trust myself in the lategame anyway and the scum killing me instead of, sayyy, an investigative PR, means that said investigative PR has the time to generate useful results unimpeded. There's actual, provable, game utility in claiming mason, even on D1.

You can disagree with the theory, but from a theory standpoint, it is not unambiguously game-throwing.

Shooting conftown as town, on the other hand?

That?

That's unambiguously game-throwing.

Claiming to become conftown's not gamethrowing because there's utility in it (you're still playing to your wincon even if the decision to claim is not the MOST optimal); shooting conftown as town is gamethrowing because it is literally playing against your wincon.

why would you want to follow masons that are gamethrowing????????
Asking for a friend

Alchemist doesn't think they are and nor do I.

Here are the things mastina did this game
- get into a fight that is probably a TvT with Cheeky
- claimed mason and outed their buddy because Cheeky reasonably thought mastina could be scum for some reason
- continued to push that one read and nothing else because their ego demanded it.

I'm sorry, how is that not gamethrowing?

[PJ.]

why would you want to follow masons that are gamethrowing????????
Asking for a friend

Alchemist doesn't think they are and nor do I.

Here are the things mastina did this game
- get into a fight that is probably a TvT with Cheeky
- claimed mason and outed their buddy because Cheeky reasonably thought mastina could be scum for some reason
- continued to push that one read and nothing else because their ego demanded it.

I'm sorry, how is that not gamethrowing?

the language I'm using is

intentionally manipulative

.

telling the truth is certainly a form of manipulation, yes

[PJ.]

why would you want to follow masons that are gamethrowing????????
Asking for a friend

Alchemist doesn't think they are and nor do I.

Here are the things mastina did this game
- get into a fight that is probably a TvT with Cheeky
- claimed mason and outed their buddy because Cheeky reasonably thought mastina could be scum for some reason
- continued to push that one read and nothing else because their ego demanded it.

I'm sorry, how is that not gamethrowing?

the language I'm using is

intentionally manipulative

.

telling the truth is certainly a form of manipulation, yes

also it was very very clear that the post about using manipulative language was about other posts, and niot that one, but you're delusional. which has been the problem all along.

[PJ.]

4T is probably scum but I very very don't like the way this wagon is starting.

[PJ.]

Wagon's i would go on right now. Titus, 4T, Chaos wind, mastina

[PJ.]

k

UNVOTE:

VOTE: TTTT

[PJ.]

Titus is very not town.

[PJ.]

Wooper actual the worst?

[PJ.]

Wooper actual the worst?

yeah it's me, here to slice cheese and kick ass.
are you town?

- w

Yes. My claim was unfortunately true.

[PJ.]

@cheeky, honestly I'm just ready for a flip.

I think a Shiro flip could be interesting. I think an alchemist or cheeky flip would tell us a lot.

Idk, I feel the traction that Shiro is getting is a little too easy?

I feel that the.non-masons on that were on cheeky''s wagon are probably scum.

Idk, I just want more information instead of reading furret go in circles and anything mastina or titus write.

[PJ.]

whoa whoa whoa...that's gimmick infringement. don't post wrestling gifs.

[PJ.]

A lot of scumplay is playing around your team and teamplay.
Panzer's gameplay here is not one of which I would describe as a Team player.
Thats like, the biggest reason why I think he's really obvious town atm.

Would you describe his play here as being a team player?

Oh wow, I forgot I played with you before and that you were a game throwing dipshit in that game too. Thanks for linking that, I think you're way more town now.

[PJ.]

He just explained his read on me. Zzzz

[PJ.]

He just explained his read on me. Zzzz

[PJ.]

*she

xtoxm is a he, shove this correcting someone else's pronouns shit directly up your ass.

[PJ.]

find it hard to see panzer as scum (a bunch of people seem to think this?)
if so i'd expect his role to be basically what he claimed with the miller inverted, ie starts as gf and loses that ability at some point
sounds like an op role for scum

This is what he said about you. Doesn’t really explain why he’s Townreading you.

i think it does? but feel free to get a second opinion i guess.

[PJ.]

I thought you were talking about Titus, so i misunderstood

Honestly, it doesn't matter who you thought I was talking about. Let them handle it. You're not being helpful or mindful, you're that guy that corrects people's grammar on twitter. You're not being woke, you're being an asshole.


(An addendum: I know there are people in this game who have pronouns that are very important to them and I'm trying my best to get the right ones, but please address me if I fuck it up. I will apologize and try double hard to get yours right going forward. Thanks.)

[PJ.]

And I’m that guy that corrects his grammar.

you're in this game?

you got reads or just jokes?

[PJ.]

It turns out I'll be upset no matter the circumstances of this game 'cause I miss my ex. Hah, who would have thought!

i feel you.

[PJ.]

I agree with pink balls reads idk if its cos it was a TED talk or what but hes got me.

Is anyone SR the pink ball?

Agreeing with me makes me town? I could be scum and your reads are awful. Or we could both be town and OUR reads are awful.

Maybe if you give us a solid input on why you agree with my reads we can sort things out, since I doubt you came to my reads because of the exact same reasons. Or did you and we are like, soulmates?

Are we soulmates, Emperor? Or should I call you flipperNipples?

Call me what you want. I never said i was tr you. That’s why i asked to see what people thought of you, cos out of all the list i agree with yours the most so far, unless something in my head clicks & my reads change drastically(probably not gonna happen). Maybe i agree with it the most cos it was a TED talk. I always find those to be so captivating

Spoiler:

i don’t watch/listen to ted talks

Spoiler:

I want to believe Mastina to be town along with Elsa. Although somethings pinging me as scum, but with the claim & me not knowing their play style for now they’re town.

Cheeky i want to say town. Nothings pinged me as scum. Idk if I’m just giving a pass cos we had the fun ass gif off

Alisae is leaning town. Idk if its cos E is a stoner & talk a lot. I’ll probably need to go thru Eirs ISO at a later date which will in fact be tough.


big T was a SR his vibe felt different, & i only know town T so thats why i stayed on him for so long.

Something about FL is screaming SCUM to me but he says hes a little on the burnt side right now so i’ll give him the benefit of the doubt for now idk why anyone is straight up town reading him tho. I feel like he should remain null. Unless theres something I’m not seeing.

Everyone else is null. Some people in the null list are leaning scum but nothing i want to push. I just want to continue to see how they play.

So i guess our list aren’t exactly the same but yours is the closest to mine.

80 pages in and the only scum read you have is on a lurker?

[PJ.]

This proves that Krazy use informed roles, not that 4Ts isnt lying about it.

sCuMpOsT

I disagree. I think it's reasonable to point out that Mastina is misguided here.

[PJ.]

unvote, vote cafe

Ridiculous

[PJ.]

Y?

[PJ.]

That's fair

[PJ.]

Is it too late to lynch flippynips?

[PJ.]

Still league?

[PJ.]

Vote: Flippernips

He has 83 posts in this game, less than 15 of which contain content and less than 5 of those contain more than one sentence. He's basically lurking in plain site and he's had 2 reads total. 1) 4Ts which he voted in RVS and held for unexplained reasons until abandoning the vote after the claim. His other scumread was on flavor leaf in post 1900 and again for vague and unexplained reasons("just something about you"). Flavor leaf only past 8 times between post 1400 and 1900 and was basically in full lurker mode(they have 58 posts before 1900 but 32 of which were in the first 12 pages and most if not all of those were in RVS). It seems like they are coasting and trying to let us dig our own graves while giving us as little information as possible. I'm really really not a fan and would prefer this lynch over most others but will jump to a different wagon if I need to before deadline

[PJ.]

@Panzer do you think FlipperNipples is the only one who deserve to be voted because of the reasons you gave?

I think flipper nips is particularly egregious to the point that it feels intentional.

[PJ.]

we have 2 days left I am just workin on making sure a lynch actually happens and its not a deadline rush.

This revival of the alch wagon feels like a dead line rush of a townie.

[PJ.]

Do I need to pbpa flipnups or is there a real tangible reason that alch is scum? This feels like some scum voting action and it makes me feel a lot less good about my girl teeky.

[PJ.]

Ok, alisae. That's dumb. This is dumb. This is exactly the thing that you didn't want to do. We're deadline settling for a wagon that was only set up to counter the teeky wagon that THE CLAIMED MASONS THAT AREN'T MILLERS were on. Is that not bizarre to you? I think you're town, if we can go a different way with your reads I will, if you want to kill floppynopps that's great, but I can't lynch alchemist on these grounds. It's criminally negligent at this point.

[PJ.]

@Nips, Ignore Panzer unless I die. He's whitenoise.

@Shiro, I am inclined to give TTTT the day unless no option presents itself. TTTT has outlined his info will be useful on d1. I feel that scum are piggy backing on this to get useful pr info.

He literally just responded to my case against him with 5 gifs pushing his content post to actual post percentage under 16%. Regardless of you feel about me and my philosophy on vengekilling an awful player, claimed mason or otherwise; I think it's foolish of you to consider me white noise and to disregard this information. This is a player who has both been around and actively avoided making any opinions about the game at large. No opinions on cheeky. No opinions on alch aside from pretty non-committal one liners. Creature and flavor leaf provided more content than flippy and have been around less.

Also, look at our options: alchemist is a claimed town sounding role with weird wagon conditions, pink ball and TTTT were both started by your scumreads. I'm not asking you to like me or think I'm smart, I'm asking you to look into it.

[PJ.]

Panzer shift on me was weird.

What shift on you. I've maintained that I think you're town. I just think the alchemist wagon is extraordinarily weird? Idk, maybe my logic just is poor but I think both you and alch are both town, but there's some crazy moonlogic reason that alch lynch is better than riding the masons and lynching you.


~~~~~~

My vote seems to still not be counted so.

UNVOTE: VOTE: emperor flippynips

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@alisae Titus has been a scum read of mine since the beginning but you guys all said we can't lynch her today so why waste my breathe and time.

[PJ.]

We can hug too =(

[PJ.]

I don't like a skygazer wagon because it's titus the only one titus likes.

[PJ.]

I don't like a skygazer wagon because it's titus the only one titus likes.

Flippy wagon probably won’t happen and he’s a slot that’s better resolved by PRs. Who else would you wagon?

Titus.

[PJ.]

@pink ball. Why not titus as a new wagon

[PJ.]

Yes.

Also chaos is significantly less scummy than flippynips

[PJ.]

and that's not worse than actively avoiding posting content and having literally 1 scumread in 103 pages on someone that has been largely lurking

[PJ.]

The fake helpfulness and unwillingness to try and solve the game despite actively posting. I can write off lurking as simply being checked out and not wanting to read because this game kinda sucks and is really frustrating, but actively reading the thread just to meme and actively avoiding posting anything of consequence is something that ONLY scum do, because they are the only ones with a clear motivation to act in such a way.

[PJ.]

but then why are you pushing basically the opposite side of the line if you feel it's undifferentiated. Wouldn't one just avoid taking a stance all together because it's not worth it. Why put a horse in the race?

[PJ.]

How about we just fold the bet and both vote titus who has been an ample amount of scummy and agree that "we can't lynch x person today " is dumb?

~~~

Also I just want to clarify that we are ~24 hours from deadline and now that half the game has at least semi claimed I think we can all agree that forcing claims isn't going to give us any sort of clarity on who we should lynch. So if we're gonna settle on a bad lynch, let's at least settle on a semi-claimed bad lynch

[PJ.]

Alchemist is a bad lynch. 4T is a less than good one, but it's better than forcing a claims and not lynching 2 more people on day 1. jjh is a better lynch than both those. Chaos is a worst lynch than flippy lips but not an awful one.

[PJ.]

I'm hysterical you guys wanna wagon Titus?

please?

I'll start

UNVOTE: VOTE: titus

[PJ.]

4t is scummy but like..the claim dictates we marinate on it.
jjh feels like it'll be a weird bad late run up but like..it's better than the 2 main wagons and alisae was semi into and cheeky is on it and those are my two top TRs. so....I'm not in but if my TRs are throwing a hail mary over there i'm not going to be obstructive

bonus: chaos win is just an inferior version of the flippynips lynch. Alch is probably full claimed town or got a very detailed fake claim.

[PJ.]

for double clarity. I don't have a specific read on jjh.

[PJ.]

hopefully it won't come to that.


and what a spiteful scummy jerk titus is.

[PJ.]

but like..

they're protected. I have like..7 people to vengekill now and mastina isn't really one of them at this point and none of the 4 claimed masons are close to lynch?

I feel like you're just deliberately being obtuse so you can string up the claimed informed guy when it's clear that it's probably the best play for scum if for real informed town? And your "bulletproof excuse" is like.."i'm being spiteful" but like..honestly..against what? I haven't mentioned mastina in like..45 posts? I'm not gonna iso myself but i'd be shocked if it was less than like..half my posts ago. IDK this just reeks of finding excuses to not help town.

@cafe stile: fight the power, lynch titus

[PJ.]

oh no, ur the bad cafe stile not the good cafe stile.

[PJ.]

@Duck dude don't panic, I was busy had a musical rehearsal and I just got back

I was asking both of you to come back 'cause you are really vocal and we need to get a lynch and you have the wim to get someone lynched.

@TTTT why don't you just claim the info right away and give us time to decide if we believe you or not?

this is scummy as hell.

because once the info is out the dude is just vanilla, scum gets bonus information and town likely gets a mislynch out of it, either TTTT or otherwise.

[PJ.]

or let's not get the info and lynch titus like a good town.

[PJ.]

also that being your reaction is quite telling.

[PJ.]

UNVOTE: VOTE: tttt

bad fucking players, but whatever.

[PJ.]

So I have a question that I would like everyone to answer please.

Question

How well do you know the anime Hikaru No Go?

You could say, I’ve heard the name, but don’t know what it is at all.

Like anything.

Hikaru no go is an anime about a boy who gets possessed by a spirit named Sai that's one of the first genius minds of the game Go. He meets his rival (forgot the rivals name) and the ghost plays the rival and beats him despite the rival being a child prodigy. This game triggers an interest in the game from Hikaru and Sai basically becomes his teacher. At some point in the story Sai and Hikaru clash due to Sai wanting to play the games and Hikaru wanting to finally truly test what he''s learned.

[PJ.]

Tet is town that almost derp hammer never comes from scum.

Good thing tet didn't hammer.

[PJ.]

so uh
in what way shape or form is Panzer not scum by the way he defended TTTT?
Asking for a friend.

How am I scum for defending TTTT?

[PJ.]

When you say same creators do you just mean both made by madhouse?

He means the art from the Manga of each series are both done by Obata, who also did the character designs.

[PJ.]

Why?

Cause I did. =/

[PJ.]

@mastina why are we playing professor vca instead of scumhunting?

Because she's pretending to be helpful. It doesn't need to be pointed out that a 3p kill is essentially a town lynch and that there were 100% scum on that wagon.

~~~
Not a fan of the people that were celebrating the lynch today.

~~~~

Anyone else find it sketchy that tutus got delayed last night and there was no scum kill?

VOTE: titus [/titus]

[PJ.]

VOTE: titus

[PJ.]

That's a scummy as hell take and you should bus titus.

[PJ.]

you'd be wrong. Also she's been fake claiming vig. Also, she should of been the day 1 lynch but the scum kids tried to get the TTTT info.

[PJ.]

You're clearly being obtuse, so I guess I'll say it nice and clear for you.

Obviously not everyone on the wagon is scum, I think it's you, Titus and at least 1 of tet,chaos wind, and skygazer.

[PJ.]

^ that was @shiro

[PJ.]

wait who is enigma and are they in this game?

[PJ.]

That's a scummy as hell take and you should bus titus.

idk if I remembered to say before but I'm p sure Panzer is town

I think so as well but he hasn't brought up being lynched to resolve Titus in the face of Titus threatening to vig him.

I may or may not have reasons for not wanting to be lynched. But that's definitely contingency plan that I have considered.

[PJ.]

wait was Titus actually delayed I'm not following

"she may be wifoming", but like...scum got blockablocked.

[PJ.]

wait was Titus actually delayed I'm not following

"she may be wifoming", but like...scum got blockablocked.

Hypothetical: you are scum, I roleblock you preventing the night kill.

Do you:
A.) Claim being roleblocked, giving probable cause that you did make the kill.
Or
B.) Shut up because no one can know if you really were rb'ed?

they were specifically asked why they didn't vig shoot when they've been soft claiming a vig shot on me for like..a real time week? I think that rules out option B, you just have to commit to being a vig.

[PJ.]

can't be an NK target when you're the scum.

[PJ.]

page toppa

[PJ.]

cause I have 4 night kills. obv

[PJ.]

I dunno Titus, the sk just died, it is a fair assumption

Not really

My vig (n2/n3 plus [will not explain this])
Scum 1 nightkill
Panzer venge
SK
????

Plus, that doesn't allow for the possibility of Panzer's venge not counting in the 5.

Panzer's scum.

Let's find lynchable scum.

VOTE: Cafe

I'll sheep you until you're wrong.

Cookie Bakers until the end.

"lets find lynchable scum"
votes the third scummiest lurker.

lol what ez scum titus and shiro are.

[PJ.]

Flippynips, chaos wind..and honestly flavor leaf too at this point.

Man, titus is the worst. Big fan of the scum team all voting cafe for us though. I like it a lot.

[PJ.]

Flippynips,

Since when have i been a lurker?

since always. You have to post content to not be a lurker.

[PJ.]

krazy would have told us if post restrictions were possible
hes just meming

he's just scum trash

[PJ.]

very very curious that all this wagon is comprised of people that strung up 4T and people who were getting wagoned less than a day before deadline by town players.

titus is DEFINITELY scum.

[PJ.]

can we just lynch me instead of cafe? I'm scum or whatever.

[PJ.]

I dunno Titus, the sk just died, it is a fair assumption

Not really
My vig (n2/n3 plus [will not explain this])
Scum 1 nightkill
Panzer venge
SK
????
Plus, that doesn't allow for the possibility of Panzer's venge not counting in the 5.
Panzer's scum.
Let's find lynchable scum.

I actually could not shoot last night and would come back innocent to gun checkers. I come back guilty to them now.

This however does change it.

Titus's claim is absolutely a realclaim and it is absolutely a townclaim. The kind of vig she is claiming and more specifically the kind of KNOWLEDGE she is claiming is beyond the realm of "good fakeclaim"; it's not only a realclaim but also a really fucking town role.

aside from the fact that she "misread her role" aka she doesn't have the role.

[PJ.]

UNVOTE: VOTE: panzer

Apathetic town op. Do whatever.

[PJ.]

Ur being lynched by scum, just be lynched.

[PJ.]

@cafe stile

[PJ.]

UNVOTE: VOTE: panzer

Apathetic town op. Do whatever.

2 questions
A. Are you having fun?
B. Do you like playing in this game?

No

[PJ.]

Game not fun of town doesn't play.

[PJ.]

Game not fun of town doesn't play.

Perhaps, now here me out here, just a crazy thought right, ok, here it goes.

MAYBE You are wrong. And we are infact town.

[PJ.]

Lots of fake masons.

[PJ.]

Game not fun of town doesn't play.

Perhaps, now here me out here, just a crazy thought right, ok, here it goes.

MAYBE You are wrong. And we are infact town.

Just throwing insanity out there.

[PJ.]

So 6.

Names please.

Mastima/else
Furrer/ whoever claimed I already forgot,, yet I think?
Xotxm/FL and x is a miller.

[PJ.]

Tet/furret "delayed masons"

[PJ.]

[PJ.]

I'm honestly not sure you're town

[PJ.]

I’ll do stuff soon

That's not my issue.

[PJ.]

If you don't know then I don't know.

[PJ.]

definitely

[PJ.]

yeah, i'm so bad at mafia...zzzz.

[PJ.]

you should lynch me

[PJ.]

My main issue is with your scumreads tbh. Don't underplay Titus in there too


Right now, the TTTT wagon is pretty much an arbitrary group of players from which to confbias shit. Show me a scumflip and then look at the wagon again

I'm trying to show you a scumflip, but you won't lynch me or titus

[PJ.]

But you're the scum. I'll get the rest later and it's far more productive then lynching a lurker.

[PJ.]

Nah, not really. I had cafe but it kind of flipped on its head. I feel we could lynch sky tbh, a bit low effort lynch but eh.

You act like you haven't been pushing a lurker that literally said "you guys can lynch me"

[PJ.]

Bad case =/= actual case

[PJ.]

then vote titus

[PJ.]

Didn't read it.

[PJ.]

i ca get behind chaos wind.

[PJ.]

What’s the case on chaos? I can’t seem to remember a single post by them this game. I’ll check into their iso

i just think they're in a super suspect spot on the 4t wagon. equally as bad as titus, they're just way less scummy outside of that.

But i'm only willing to lynch people in the middle of the 4t wagon and myself.

[PJ.]

oh..also would't mind a FL lynch..

[PJ.]

Votecount 1.19

TTTT(5)

~ Shiro(5), Flavor Leaf(68), Elsa Jay(77), Skygazer(42), Pink Ball(125)

Alchemist21(3)

~ Tet(79), jjh927(108), Furret und Woopers(605)

jjh927(2)

~ CheekyTeeky(186), Cafe Stile(58)

Chaos Wind(2)

~ Titus(162), TTTT(54)

Skygazer(1)

~ Alchemist21(86)

Shiro(1)

~ mastina(126)

Pink Ball(1)

~ Creature(64)

Emperor flippyNips(1)

~ Panzerjager(98)


Not Voting (3): Xtoxm(98), Chaos Wind(128), Emperor flippyNips(110)

With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-06-04 21:08:43)

FLAVOR

This was the VC at the time I voted

There is nothing inherently suspicious about putting a wagon solidly ahead of another without the knowledge that the second is a wolf wagon

-Wind

Deadline looming, knowledge that 4T is not your partner, and it being a pretty "unsuspicious" spot are all pretty decent indicators, my dude. Ez to "appear helpful" with out "being suspicious"

[PJ.]

The fact that you just explained that it isn't suspicious because "it''s not a suspicious time to vote". Of course you don't think it is. That's a circular question.

[PJ.]

The fact that you just explained that it isn't suspicious because "it''s not a suspicious time to vote". Of course you don't think it is. That's a circular question.

You're the one being circular here

You called it suspicious and are now justifying it with that I asked how it was suspicious

-Wind

"Vote is suspicious"
"Why is it suspicious? I don't think it is"
"This is why it's suspicious"
"Why would.I do it if it's suspucious?"
"Because you literally just said you thought you weren't being suspicious, this is going to be circular"
"You're the one being circular here"

You're fucking kidding me, right?

[PJ.]

panzer, you do realize your post means absolute jackshit unless alchemist is scum?
TTTT already had 5 votes, and was likely the Lynch
the only viable CW was alch, who had 3.

if alchemist is town as well, what reasoning does scum have to vote TTTT?

your response literally ignores the point that chemist brought up.

and your post is circular too.
if TTTT is scum, "oh its a bus vote because the wagon was solidified"
if TTTT is town/3p, "oh its a hop on a mislynch wagon"

it ignores the fact that chemist thought TTTT was more likely scum than alchemist and wanted the Lynch to be on TTTT, thinking he was scum
instead of alchemist, thinking he's more likely town.

I'd say you are better than this, but frankly I kinda doubt it

-chaos

Alchemist wagon was already derailed, 4t wagon had way more momentum, zzzz

[PJ.]

No, I'm legit uninspired ro play the game.

Tell me about it

[PJ.]

I share your enthusiasm

[PJ.]

The fact that you just explained that it isn't suspicious because "it''s not a suspicious time to vote". Of course you don't think it is. That's a circular question.

You're the one being circular here

You called it suspicious and are now justifying it with that I asked how it was suspicious

-Wind

"Vote is suspicious"
"Why is it suspicious? I don't think it is"
"This is why it's suspicious"

"Why would.I do it if it's suspucious?"

"Because you literally just said you thought you weren't being suspicious, this is going to be circular"
"You're the one being circular here"

You're fucking kidding me, right?

When did I say this?

-Wind

Also Panzer I still want an answer to this

-Wind

it's paraphrases, like the rest of it, dipshit.

[PJ.]

Use your eyes and I won't insult you? it's a 4 post chain of interaction, dude.

[PJ.]

too much town doing nothing so scum are doing nothing too

It's almost like I said this last week.

[PJ.]

UNVOTE: VOTE: chaos wind

[PJ.]

The scums are so strong

[PJ.]

Weirdest thing though is that it's in the face of a chaos wagon that was picking up steam, but the people on that wagon half jumped to the empty sky wagon. Other wagon is jjh, and it's all very bizarre to me.

[PJ.]

Jjh, if your logic is "scum are moving to sky wagon to mislynch" than that makes you scum. And that's weird.

[PJ.]

If scum are looking for an easy mislynch, it would follow that a scum guy was in the lead in wagons. The two lead wagons were you and chaos. People on the new sky wagon came from the chaos wagon, so then it follows the scum that those guys don't want to lynch is you.

[PJ.]

VOTE: flippynips

[PJ.]

So FL, you're not gonna claim to be hit with any night actions from N1?

[PJ.]

So FL, you're not gonna claim to be hit with any night actions from N1?

Like what

Like the one I hit you with, sir.

[PJ.]

I guess i’ll Just go look at the wiki to see other possible 3rd party roles... and i don’t think its to be expected. I’m not surprised if there is tho

There were 4 3rd party roles in OK2, I believe.

And you were in Sorcerer’s ABoontice, where there were 2.

You won’t find many listed 3rd party roles because a lot of them are game/flavor specific.

You’ll likely only find SK/survivor.

But SK can have a lot of different abilities, so i would assume panzer’s more SK than say Survivor.

If he’s Survivor, i wouldn’t even care to just let him win, because it likely doesn’t hurt anyone.

There’s Jester/Lyncher as well, but i don’t assume any of those would be here.

This 3p cop or whatever is... Weird. And Jester and Lyncher are "excluded roles" so while I guess Unlyncher could be a thing, it'd be more likely an SK or a Survivor. With no more extra kills I kinda doubt the SK angle. Has Panzer even played like scum or town?

Like...in my life?

[PJ.]

The fact Panzer didn’t deny it before proves it, tbh.

There is 100% scum in Pink Ball, Gamma, Tet. Maybe multiple.

I'm town, ftr.

[PJ.]

This is just a weird play, but I think the claim is fake and I find it dubious he hasn't claimed night sutfd

[PJ.]

This is just a weird play, but I think the claim is fake and I find it dubious he hasn't claimed night sutfd

There might be some stuff I’m sloshing around with, but I assure you, I am town.

You keep acting like I have something else to claim, and it’s weird.


Also @everyone else - Panzer flat out said “I think the claim is fake” meaning he realizes that he could be wrong, meaning he is confirmed 3rd party. How could I have known that?

Oh, right. I fished him out.

Panzer, can you win with town?

I'm 0% third party.

[PJ.]

UNVOTE: [vote:tet][/vote]

[PJ.]

VOTE: tet

The reason i can't be sure that you're full of shit is cause this game has weird stuff going on, but certainly got fake badged

[PJ.]

A claim that I have night actions? Sure.

[PJ.]

Alchemist is still probably a dumb wagon. I'm sheeping FL.

[PJ.]

Whatever

[PJ.]

vote gamma

[PJ.]

Did somebody say L-1?

VOTE: Gamma

This is lynch.

[PJ.]

vote jjh

[PJ.]

So. Did someone get a demon bullet last night?

[PJ.]

VOTE: mastina