BTE: Boon Wars - The Boondom Menace

[Krazy]

Fuck not in the game with Alisae

Oh well at least we got Nick :3

Might as well get this out of the way VOTE: NicoRobin

Spoiler:

[Krazy]

Fire why did I take this game on my main

[Krazy]

@Boon

can you put the link to that thread that says all the disallowed roles and stuff somewhere handy

[Krazy]

Cool. Can you put the writeup for what a Bunyip is somewhere. Also, the "Hunted" is aware that they are the "Hunted" with that Boon Bank role right?

Shit drove me up the wall in BTE

You may talk about the other games, but not any reads nor analyzing on the players in said game.

So like, we can say "In the other game, there was a scum bunyip flip" or "in the other game, town flipped with star trek flavor" or something so long as we don't talk about reads of living players?

[Krazy]

"Yeah Nero there's like no way Alisae is coming to this game given who else is in here with me"

<--to be clear, is this like, borderline or is this sort of crossbanter totally okay?

[Krazy]

Now when you say "Governor is ContraBoon'd", does that include dayvigs that end the day that can be activated after the lynch resolves?

If the scum team has that as a factional ability, they can use it as it's mechanic not role.

[Krazy]

Anyway I guess I should stop fucking with the mod even if there are still FEELINGS about BTE.

Now to decide how I feel about no one reacting to Fire claiming scum. Just how desensitized is this playerlist?

Spoiler:

What have you done to these poor people, Boon? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?

[Krazy]

Hi ascetic I'm Krazy

[Krazy]

I liked the pod racing in menace and darth maul had a cool look.

I mean the ending was meh but there were some redeeming qualities in the mess

[Krazy]

I liked the pod racing in menace and darth maul had a cool look.

I mean the ending was meh but there were some redeeming qualities in the mess

Meh? That fight scene was amazing. Especially the soundtrack.
HAAAAA
HA
HAAA
Dun dun duddla dun dun duddla.
Hopefully me typing how I envision that music in my head translates for people.
Also I love Maul.

the fight between Oskar Schindler and Darth Maul was pretty good but the big, large-scale fight had those kinda off-looking CGI robots that just rolled over. Like if it was all just the lightsaber fight it would have been fine but the rest of it...? not so much

[Krazy]

Imma prodge until Star Wars discussion is over

"vote yume with me because reasons"

blah blah

[Krazy]

Oskar Schindler??

Yeah dude it's part of the trilogy

See it starts with Taken, which establishes Schindler's relationship with his daughter. Then the second movie is Schindler's List, that's where he's in his adult prime. Then finally the finale is Phantom Menace, where he dies after having learned to finally master the lightsaber. That's the real trilogy right there.

[Krazy]

White Fire has swapped games. This was not their switch. Shiro will now take Firebringer's place.

what the fuck does this mean?

Like is this a mechanical ability or was this a mod decision?

[Krazy]

I’ve signed up for games with nicorobin before but she’s never played any of them

I’m mildly interested to see how she plays (or if she even plays)

I think you're pretty much inferring my reasons here

[Krazy]

Like is this a mechanical ability or was this a mod decision?

I'm 90% sure that this is mechanical- that's the whole point.

I mean it doesn't affect us too much (noooo papa dinosaur.....) but yeah

[reasons] suggests this was a mod decision not mechanical

I still feel like what we can or can't talk irt the other thread still has a lot of grey area

[Krazy]

On the plus side I don't think I've ever played with Shiro on my main so this'll be cool

[Krazy]

Pod Racer on N64
New Hope on Super Nintendo

Hope / Empire
Rogue One

Return
Phantom
Episode VII
That han solo prequel thing
Episode VIII

The third prequel whatever it was called
Clones

[Krazy]

Unfortunately I had the big twist in KOTOR spoiled but I'm pretty sure I would have liked it if I'd played it at the time it was out and hadn't been spoiled

[Krazy]

Am I the only one who played Shadows of the Empire on N64? I feel like no one else has any recollection of that game whatsoever lol

I've played through essentially every single N64 game.

[Krazy]

But like you got a pew pew laser pistol and at one point got to use jetpacks

like, I think that's objectively better than the han solo prequel movie thing

[Krazy]

In fairness, some of the games on N64 were much better "for their time" than were objectively good by today's standards.

Like, GoldenEye was a definitive experience but realistically it had some huge issues that modern players probably would not be nearly as forgiving for (looking at you, Oddjob)

Original Smash still gives me some strong nostalgia though, and who can forget "DO A BARREL ROLL"?

Okay I might be off topic

[Krazy]

I didn't watch solo

I feel like it's exactly what Disney wanted it to be

Totally palatable, wholly unobjectionable, and mostly forgettable

[Krazy]

I feel like the consensus is that 2 was better than 1, and I know that Jar Jar hatred has a big part of that, but realistically I watched that movie on my birthday and for a movie with Jedis and Clones I thought it was WILDLY disappointing there was no mirror match fights between Jedis and Clone Jedis

Like how can you not want an opportunity to have Yoda fight Samuel L. Jackson? Like it's just such a missed opportunity. You have an entire movie about clones and you go like, the LEAST interesting route with the premise

[Krazy]

I feel like the next time I go to Cali I should just hit up Boon and play some Goldeneye at this point LOL

Good plan.

[Krazy]

Yeah, that and I loved the pod racer video game so I think that made it a lot easier to forgive the first movie for its faults given it gave me one of the better games imo

[Krazy]

You know I never went to heavy on arcades. Was always too much hassle to get a ride and I basically lived off the Super NES into N64 so never felt a great need.

[Krazy]

Yeah but we can still have third party nonsense

I'm jealous of your pt with dr worm tho he seems like a super cool dude.

[Krazy]

unpopular opinion: the first 3 episodes are great, and force awakens was trash (to the point i havent watched any of the new ones since)

Like I can see "not great" but why "trash"?

I really doubt you would like Last Jedi tho based on that comment

[Krazy]

Real talk tho

Rogue One?

[Krazy]

Ahhh

Honestly I think Rogue One is the best from the franchise since original trilogy

Not great if your favorite part is lightsaber battles but idk, I think the low jedi count makes the entire rest of the cast feel way more relatable

[Krazy]

how you doing RCE?

[Krazy]

im not big on films in general and i dont go cinema much, but i was like

super hype

for force awakens and when i came out so disappointed i just kinda dropped the new eps they were doing

I think Rogue One can be really good if you don't go into it thinking "this is the next big star wars movie"

I think if you try to jettison the baggage about the franchise it's just a fun science fiction film

[Krazy]

idk I feel like I have a pretty good townread on Easy Bake for basically not even attempting to provide game relevant content and just shooting the shit with me for a bit

[Krazy]

Tet told me not to try reading you so hope you rolled town.

things were going so well for the first 200 posts or so that game

pretty sure scum loses that setup more than 60% of the time regardless of whether my slot implodes though

[Krazy]

By the way DEB, and I don't want to get into this much, but if you don't like VT you're gonna have a hard time on this site. Role madness games are somewhat rare and they're often less strategic and less balanced. If you only play them you'll never learn to scumhunt.

I can see sc1 has left some scars

also vt is best role. Ahh the pleasure of being n1'd for reads/being too obvtown

[Krazy]

Well, with that attitude you're never going to improve.

But I'll stay out of your business, if you firmly insist this is the best you can possibly be.

You can't improve on perfection.
I'll politely ask again:
Can you pretty please give me an ordered list of your favorite Star Wars movies, or at least give me your thoughts on them as X and O have?
It's not a big ask.

To be honest you're kinda making this weird lol

[Krazy]

Boon, do votes in animated textcrawl openings count?

I want to say yes, but I can see people going overboard with it, so I’m going to say no.

[Krazy]

At this point I'm thinking Easy Bake has a ridiculous variant role that somehow rewards him for getting star wars preference lists from every player LOL

[Krazy]

Sounds like a Krazy developed role tbh.

Plot twist: for every list completed he gains a stackable loved modifier/or bulletproof shot.

*takes notes* and bulletproof shots for each completed list, uh huh uh huh...

[Krazy]

This is no longer the fun thread

how to bring the fun back? what do we do nick?

[Krazy]

If we're going to mislynch nico I'd rather sooner than later and this can basically be what her scumgame looks like when she's not with mastina

I think the majority of the people I can remember being in the game are town

[Krazy]

I don't wanna say creature is scum for not posting yet but I'd be lying if the thought hadn't crossed my mind

[Krazy]

Majority of the list is unreadable or hasn't posted yet

[Krazy]

I was tempted to vote frozen angel for not doing her got large theme yet but actually I don't want her to rush it so maybe not

That's not a read tho, that's more a thought that happened lol

[Krazy]

Ohshit guys did you know I'm the leading wagon

Also, did you really not count my Yume vote?

VOTE: Joan of Arc

[Krazy]

True story, literally every game I've played with Yume where she's been scum she has claimed mech immediately, usually something relatively close to her actual role.

I wish I could say what separates her scum game from her town game but she's literally 3/3 for rolling scum against me so I've literally never seen her town firsthand.

The only difference here so far is that usually she actually votes someone when calling them scum in the early game, but not voting people she's calling scum is actually something she does a lot as scum in later dayphases so I can't say it's TI.

The next beat for scum Yume is to omgus someone scumreading her.

How are we at three posts and I already feel like I'm looking at "Yume's scum game: classic hits"?

[Krazy]

Krazy says this must be my scum game, but I also claim early as town. Players who played with town!me, such as Titus, can attest to this being true.

I didn't say it had to be your scum game, I said I've never seen your town game but that this reads exactly like your scum game, and what do you know, it still does.

Like I don't know why but I just kind of imagine that as town you would like, sort people. As scum it seems like you claim mech, omgus people, get into a 1v1, then hope that it's read as too toxic to be scum motivated. I don't know if this is a conscious strategy or just a pattern in how you approach scum play but it's basically what you've done both times you made it past ten posts.

Like, Titus hasn't posted yet but you're appealing to her like you think she's town? How is that natural lol

[Krazy]

Ironically her true claiming in anime upick was kinda helpful to town given that she actually was unlynchable day 1 or something, she had a pretty bonkers role

[Krazy]

And if you've never seen my town game, how do you know I never do these things as town, eh? How do you know?!

I don't, but I see no evidence of you sorting or engaging with the playerlist in a good-faith manner so it's a lot easier to just think you're scum again than to go hunting for towntells lol

[Krazy]

What if I become conftown by D2? Would you still say I am scum?

Probably :3

[Krazy]

Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

I am not Jaune, and lynching me will not work.

I am not Jaune, and lynching me will not work.

I was being funny calling you that, and you really wanna test that?

Yes, by all means, test it.

Also, I am town, so why should I care if I appear scummy or not?

Also, I am town, so why should I care if I appear scummy or not?

so you dont get lynched

Considering that I literally can't be lynched..... *shrugs*

Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

Joan of Arc has been lynched. She was...

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Spoiler: Joan of Arc's Role PM

...a Youtube Copystriker!

ANIME U-PICK: KING SIZE

PHOSPHOPHYLLITE

Welcome,

Joan of Arc

, your role is

PHOSPHOPHYLLITE (Houseki no Kuni), sided with the Youtube Copystrikers!

!

WHAT YOU HAVE

• - You have your voice and vote, use them wisely and victory is yours.
  - You have [REDACTED] as your fellow Copystrikers. You all share a
  Factional PT
  where you can talk with your teammates during nights and pregame. Your Factional PT is locked during day phases.
  
  - Sometimes you wonder if you could be another kind of gem, or at least have more strength. I mean, seriously, a 3.5 for a gem is quite in a fragile level.
  The first time you are lynched, you will NOT die, but instead will be announced "shattered" and the votecount resets. When you shatter, you lose your ability to vote during the day you shatter, nor can be lynched that day. You also cannot be the one who can make the factional kill during the following night. You can shatter only once per game and you cannot shatter after night 5 or when there are 6 or fewer living players remaining.
  
  -
  {(UNLOCKED NIGHT 2) You may force-shatter yourself by PMing the mod. Note that if you force-shatter yourself, the votecount does not reset, but any votes by you and anyone who voted you will become voided.
  }
  - It takes some pain to get stronger. When you're ready to use your new limbs, you'll become strong.
  {(UNLOCKS NIGHT 3) If you have shattered, any factional kills made by you gain the strongman modifier. Any nights you do not use the strongman ability, you will be bulletproof.
  }
  -
  REMEMBER THAT SOME OF YOUR ABILITIES ARE GREYED OUT AND WILL BE UNLOCKED WHEN THE GAME REACHES THE PHASE WRITTEN IN FRONT OF EACH LOCKED ABILITIES. AT THE END OF DAY 3, YOU MAY DECIDE TO DROP THIS ROLE PM AND REPLACE IT WITH A NEW ONE. MORE INFORMATION IN THE GAME THREAD.

HOW TO WIN

• -
  You win when at least half of the living players are YTCSs (Like 2 in 4) and no hostile neutrals (if any exist) are alive.

[Krazy]

Yeah but you did just spam mechanical nonsense and basically never went into good-faith solving so... still no difference than I'm seeing here

[Krazy]

This is a game designed by Boon. If you think I'm going to not lynch someone "because I'll be conftown tomorrow" then you're out of your mind lol

[Krazy]

Actually if you are a visitor-enabled IC then that would be a variant and mechanically it would be optimal to have you flipped as that would eliminate the risk of other variants and give us a better chance of a mech solve or mech PoE lategame.

Actually I feel like I'm really warming up to this the more you talk about mech, the more fun lynching you sounds

[Krazy]

To me it actually just sounds like you're claiming scum PGO tho which is like, the approximate level of bastard I could actually see coming from a boon game for real

[Krazy]

Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

Well, there goes my attempt to become a better player.

Joan. Joan. Hey. If you want to get better, then what you're doing now is going to lead you to your normal pitfalls; try something else? <3

I am bad at reading people d1, so I'll do me for now, till someone flips, kay?

Now playing... Track 2 of "Yume's Scumgame: Classic Hits."

[Krazy]

You never give scum a night, Xtoxm

And she didn't claim day 2 IC. She claimed *IC but only if people target her* which means she wants town to fucking dump every single PR on her so that she can be cleared by a mechanic that she hasn't explained. That's not a fucking day 2 IC, that's a scum PGO claim.

[Krazy]

Then why did you insist people had to visit you?

[Krazy]

idk just dont see this being a productive play for scum?

Never a good reason to give Joan a pass, LOL

[Krazy]

Like, she's not an idiot. She can read a role card. She was softing something that was NOT friendly neighbor, realized if she kept softing that bullshit she was going to get lynched, and literally just changed claims.

[Krazy]

pgo is contraboon'd

Just like BTE didn't have a PGO amiright?

[Krazy]

pgo is contraboon'd

Just like BTE didn't have a

Governor

amiright?

ebwop, typo ruins the sass too

[Krazy]

Yeah that's not a friendly neighbor then, he said to full claim not "full claim but with your conditions missing"

[Krazy]

Dude.

Xtoxm.

The signup thread said: "BooneyToonz

Extravaganza

: Boon Wars"

Which from my understanding of Boon means, "basically booneytoonz rules except there will probably be some extremely ridiculous bullshit"

Yes, I know post 0 also says:

Unique Mechanic? Nope, this will be a classic BooneyToonz game.

But the game still has variant roles and until I know what the variant role is I basically just assume any level of bullshit is plausible

[Krazy]

Then why does my role PM say 'friendly neighbour' in it?

Given that Boon is American I guarantee you do not have a role pm that says "friendly neighbo

u

r" and you still haven't explained the exact mechanics of this restriction you're implying you have

[Krazy]

except yume didn't say "reflexive friendly neighbor" she said "fucking target me and lulz will happen"

letting a claim this complete bullshit pass through day one when *hiding behind her claim is literally yume's entire day 1 as scum* is not a good idea

[Krazy]

sup FA? feel like I haven't been in a game with you in ages

I don't even think we were in ircher's large normal for that long before you repped out and that was like a year ago

[Krazy]

wait no you were in one of FakeGod's games too, I think I just died really fast probably

[Krazy]

So you're saying that I list reads on D1 as town and that I don't do so as scum? Then fucking prove it.

No.

You should just be playing day 1.

Your first fucking action in this game was to hardclaim a bullshit role and then tell Titus to apologize for you having a meta of not playing day 1.

I don't give a flying f what nonsensical role you want to pull out of your gemstone butt, you want to not get lynched day 1 then maybe sort some people like you're playing a game of fucking mafia and not complaining at people for you emulating your scum game to a T.

Until then all I see is "waah waah why aren't you ignoring me" which is every post of every scum game of yours I've ever been which also happens to be all of them.

[Krazy]

edit: yeah I don't remember any games with you

That's right you only had 3 posts in Excalibur :/

[Krazy]

Here is the 'readlist' you asked for:
Town: Bins
Something_Smart
Dr Easy Bake
Frozen Angel
Shiro
Titus
Vorkuta
Xtoxm
ofrhz
Creature
Zulfy

Scum:
Krazy
RCEnigma

Well if Yume is totally true to form then she should be scum with Chara

[Krazy]

what if you've never watched any?

Hmm, this does look like something a Sith would say

[Krazy]

No, you asked me to play and post a readlist. Now I have, and yet you still continue insisting I am scum. I am playing the way you want me to, so by your logic, I am not scum anymore.

Actually I asked you to play day 1, I never asked you for a reads list. Playing day 1 means posting like a human being not doing rote mechanical actions like a droid.

Shit maybe you ARE roleplaying?

Was this the image in your rolecard?

Spoiler:

[Krazy]

Subject: Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

Read list

Town: Pink Ball, Morality, mastina, Clemency
Scum: Near x Mello, Reasonably Rational

Null: Everyone else

Track 3 of "Yume's Scum Game: Classic Hits"

List above includes 0 scum

Here is the 'readlist' you asked for:
Town: Bins
Something_Smart
Dr Easy Bake
Frozen Angel
Shiro
Titus
Vorkuta
Xtoxm
ofrhz
Creature
Zulfy

Scum:
Krazy
RCEnigma

Even when doing a rote mechanical list that's basically a copy paste of page 1, she somehow omits the name of one player in the game

Why does she leave out Chara if she's just trolling me with a fake list?

[Krazy]

I have OfHz and FB's slot as town rn.

This is the first reaction to Firebringer claiming scum I've seen

So you do think that Fire scumclaiming is a towntell?

[Krazy]

I don't see why A50 would lie

let me stop you right there

[Krazy]

Yawn

VOTE: Chara

[Krazy]

Dude I even liked the Phantom Menace kinda but even I don't wanna be seein no damn Jar Jar Binks! What you tryin' to do to us BOON?

[Krazy]

Actually VOTE: Titus

[Krazy]

I don't think 'joan claimed reflexive fn' and 'fa claimed compulsive visitor thing' is so complicated it needs an eli5

[Krazy]

ofrhz

ofrhz is town

[Krazy]

Interesting, why did you leave the C wagon when I deliberately voted there to get things moving and instead vote me?

the eli5 comment just kinda pinged me what can I say

I appreciate the sheep on chara tho

[Krazy]

VOTE: krazy

omgus me baby

OMGUS!!!!!!1111oneoneoneoenoneone

[Krazy]

Can you guys walk me through this claim thing like I am five?

"explain like I'm five" = ELI5

[Krazy]

What's up Chara?

[Krazy]

ahahhaha its not like we have a claimed "mason" or anything that you voted

dawg we all from the movies

did he slip

VOTE: Bins

[Krazy]

Nick - town af
Easy B - Town

Xtoxm -- townieish

Zulfy -- slight townlean for thought process last few pages

RCE -- null/very slight leantown
FA -- null/very slight leantown

Shiro -- Null/actually just null
Vorkuta -- seems kinda passive so far? nullish
S_S -- not scumreading yet so probably scum (actually just null tho)
Creature -- where you at?

Chara -- S/S with Joan? if joan does end up flipping scum
Titus -- didn't like the eli5, slight scumlean

Bins - just good old fashioned scum?

///

Joan - fuck if I know what to do with this slot now, I still think she's above rand scum ngl


Okay guys I got 8 people who have permission to flip scum and only 4 above rand townleans, this is gonna be an easy game lol

[Krazy]

i'm not good old fashioned anything

THE OMGUS HAS ARRIVED

I was actually pretty cool with the vote but your attitude toward Joan here is sketch af

[Krazy]

Shiro -- Null/actually just null
Vorkuta -- seems kinda passive so far? nullish
S_S -- not scumreading yet so probably scum (actually just null tho)
Creature -- where you at?

Chara -- S/S with Joan? if joan does end up flipping scum
Titus -- didn't like the eli5, slight scumlean

Bins - just good old fashioned scum?

Nick

help me find three town in this mess lol

[Krazy]

Just cause of the chara townread on ss? The joan stuff seems kinda easy, not sure what you mean by solving

so far he doesn't seem outside his pre-push range from bte, the chara thing being like his one townie post I guess?

[Krazy]

Ss townread on chara rather

[Krazy]

10 pages fluffposting and 10 pages of joan hardclaiming for no reason

[Krazy]

tbh I have more townreads from fluffposting than I do from the rest of the game so far so frankly that's probably been the most productive part of the game for my reads

[Krazy]

wow i wonder who their mason buddy is

What

>Joan didn't claim mason
>She claimed the necessity of being targeted, which isn't what a mason wants
>Her claim was presented in a ridiculous and absurd manner and the people pushing her for it are probably majority town
>why would you claim mason AFTER she's not getting lynched today (due to FA ALSO claiming a role)?

[Krazy]

Boon don't you try to wifom me with those flavor images, I see that jar jar facepalm and I'm having none of it

Lol

[Krazy]

Even when doing a rote mechanical list that's basically a copy paste of page 1, she somehow omits the name of one player in the game

Why does she leave out Chara if she's just trolling me with a fake list?

by the way, this is why i voted you, Krazy. you're lending serious credence to your idea that scum Joan would copy/paste a list from the OP, remove two scum players to put down at the bottom, but then omit her actual scumpartner instead of just leaving me in my original spot on that list.

If you're asking me whether I actually think joan does that let me point you to anime upick where she literally does that

Given you had posted jack and diddly in the thread it's not like I had a reason to townread you so? what's your problem?

[Krazy]

oh my god she's made it pretty obvious im her neighbour

And you're wking/not sorting your neighbor because? What compelled you to fakeclaim mason with your neighbor?

[Krazy]

i'll take a better look when i'm back from work, but first pass has me wanting to say Bins's position here is more likely to come from town her. i think scum her would know what's she's arguing is a harder sell.

Town bins has a tendency to randomly fakeclaim mason just to fuck with the gamestate even more?

[Krazy]

meh i was more annoyed about people calling my joan read weird

i have a pretty good reason to townread them, knowing my role. friendly neighbour neighbour makes 100% sense

Your joan read is weird
Your decision to fakeclaim mason is weird
Your decision to push me is bad
Your decision to claim a visiting neighbor is weird

You're making joan look good right now, so congrats on that

[Krazy]

The only reason the whole targeting business would go wrong is if scum decide to botch it.

almost like baiting out visiting roles and getting them to hardclaim creates the risk of scum roleblockers disrupting the results. Good thing you hardclaimed so that you could achieve the most important thing of all: skipping day 1

[Krazy]

Oh or rolestopper. Because it's not like that's one of boon's favorite scum roles or anything

[Krazy]

a friendly neighbour neighbourhood is a MASONRY

In what world is your alignment confirmed to Joan? You just wk'd her and then used the fact she was under pressure to fucking fakeclaim masons, in what world is that pro-town?

If you're town this game you should recognize you are right now playing a classically scummy game. Like that move is basically "how to scum 101"

[Krazy]

Hey Binsy, why is your role redundant? Neighbor neighbor?

Bins is claiming Vanilla Neighbor which is why the mason fakeclaim is pissing me off

[Krazy]

Actually I have no idea what the fuck bins is claiming or why the fuck she claimed any part of her role

I feel like I need a lobotomy to play this game

[Krazy]

I feel like I'm struggling to say nice things. I don't like to scumread people when I'm angry.

UNVOTE:

Other people do stuff I need to step back from this game

[Krazy]

Can we get lobos together? Like a mani/pedi?

Let's do it :3

[Krazy]

VOTE: Krazy

I am sick but I am just frustrated with Krazy. I'll watch his reaction later.

Why?

[Krazy]

Sure. I'd just seen a different scum player in another game use a similar expression basically as a way to active lurk recently so it kinda pinged me. I guess a lot of people use it in a lot of contexts, I just didn't really think the Joan part of the claim was that complicated so it surprised me coming from you since I think you usually have an above average grasp on mech. It might be that sheeping on Chara was mildly townie to start some wagons going in an otherwise boring game but I'm not really in love with your push now or using AtE irt your sickness so *shrug*

I glanced at house party and it seemed like you used your sickness to downplay a few of your pushes there so I'd kinda prefer if you stop bringing it up given it shouldn't really have any bearing on the game. You think I'm scum push me as scum, don't just say you're voting me because you don't feel like sorting me or have other emotions influencing you from outside the game.

[Krazy]

You seem to have very few townreads though?

Yeah I got 2 from fluffposting and basically 0 since then

VOTE: zulfy

[Krazy]

This game is uninteresting

Also so many people not voting.

[Krazy]

I’ll never be a part of this whole “whew I got page top!” thing because I sort my posts in the other direction, newest first.

A) Have you played with Nancy Drew 39?
B) Were you aware she'll probably want to hydra with you based on this one individual fact?

[Krazy]

To be honest I kinda liked that Zulfy voted twice when several people haven't voted at all but I don't know that's enough to make me not vote him now when this is really just a boredom wagon.

I will say that if Shiro's posts are still single digits by Tuesday I'm going to CFD her. 5 posts after half a week is pretty weaksauce, Shiro.

This thread is like, shockingly dull.

[Krazy]

Krazy, what thoughts did the elephant have wrt Creature's alignment?

None so far but I haven't asked. I'm not reading the other game either so there hasn't been a lot of talk yet other than me complaining about boredom and some off topic stuff. Are you talking with your partner about reads at this point?

[Krazy]

He made an observation but it wasn't really a creature read. I thought it was a note for himself but I can ask.

[Krazy]

Okay rereading the post I guess I got why he thought that. I was misreading it but I don't really agree that it's AI for Creature, at least not above my ability to read Creature independently so I'm not worried about it.

[Krazy]

Am I being bettlejuiced? No thanks.

only response to his wagon and this was two days ago so... I honestly didn't think I'd still have literally nothing from this wagon

don't think 'too long deadlines' are the only reason people aren't posting lately; I don't feel like that was a problem in xyzzy's no deadlines.

[Krazy]

Dead game lul.

Krazy you mind talking me through some reads? Where are you at now? Since your readslist from earlier had Zulfy pretty high up but that's where your vote is currently. How do you feel about Chara if you take Joan out of the equation?

My read on Zulfy went a lot lower when he decided to give this game the finger

I'm still OK with a CFD on Shiro though. I don't feel like I have reads since I feel like this game is unreadable. There's almost no content pages and so much of the playerlist is composed of lurksacks we probably need to just start scorched earth torching some slots that can't be bothered to post.

[Krazy]

Am I being bettlejuiced? No thanks.

This was the last response to a wagon

How does this strike you as a reaction nick?

[Krazy]

Does anyone townread DEB?

With six slots below 50 posts, I'm not lynching him day 1. Beyond that, I liked his ease in the shitposting phase of early game.

[Krazy]

So are we now supposed to address Frozen as Dr. Angel?

[Krazy]

1 day

Zulfy has officially negated his grace from early game.

Just push it through.

[Krazy]

Am I being bettlejuiced? No thanks.

Seems like you were avoiding posting because you were wagoned. So no not just vibes, this post really annoyed me.

Beyond that I liked your vote movement in early game but that was only good for a very small amount of good grace which is now totally gone.

[Krazy]

Let's not get ourselves in high heels.

suit yourself I think they're fun

[Krazy]

VOTE: Xtoxm
Dont believe you

kinda been wondering about this vote

I don't really scumread Xtoxm independently, but if zulfy wanted to get recruited this vote would make sense, and RCE looks like a non-recruitable traitor irt Xtoxm at a glance

RCE on Xtoxm:

Spoiler:

what do you like about pretending not to have read the op and making a fake push

The fact he didn't justify it the way I believe scum!Vorkuta would.

Deb town, haven't seen his scum game tbh so that's tentative.
Zulfy town. Hate on star wars in a star wars themed large, bold, I like it.
Krazy...probably town for offering up Nico since it's a free mislynch down the line.

Xtoxm might be too but it's weird I'm mostly trying to sort him via what's happening in the other game.

VOTE: Joan

Free Krazy.

So not really a readslist but where I'm at with a few slots that stick out. I like Krazy pushing the gamestate, usually +Town when Krazy prioritizes pressure / passivity. Also hasn't had an weird interactions with ofhrz, outside chance it's because they are S/S together but Ofhrz would probably be more enthusiastic in the main thread if that were the case. That might not be the right word though. Plus I liked the push on Joan, I don't feel it was hot air and Joan responded poorly to the push.

FA claiming to protect doesn't seem like S/S so is probably town regardless of Joan's alignment. Bins' Lamist interjections after the wagon lost steam and then pushing Krazy off of it is the scummiest thing I've seen this game.

Vork's early vote on Xtoxm was pretty townie. Xtoxm trying to put it down as Vorkuta just not paying attention to the OP doesn't sit well. Scum would be more aware just by proxy of having more eyes. But the vote was on him so I get the bias. Plus outing the fire and ice info is town motivated. SS' crossthread read can probably be applied to Xtoxm's partner but not necessarily Xtoxm if that makes sense. If not I'll break it down more at some point.

Ehh the rest are null or Fringe reads. I had Zulfy slight town for something early but on reread I couldn't figure out what it was. Now he's gotta earn it.

Don't want to just dive this immediately but it's something I was wondering about during night already and RCE's iso kinda makes me wonder even more.

Anyone have strong reads of Xtoxm outside of associatives?

[Krazy]

OK, well Joan claims to have done an FN thing but it wasn't FA so if someone received a FN message from Joan can they share that with the town?

[Krazy]

Sure but it's a little concerning then that you said you were going to confirm Joan with a visiting action as a PT cop after Joan had claimed to be in a hood with Bins, given that "Joan is going to be visited and confirmed" was why the push against her was dropped day 1.

[Krazy]

Yeah I'm more "annoyed" than actually think you're scum mostly because I would have liked a townie person to have cleared Joan rather than a rando

[Krazy]

I'm pretty sure ofhrz is town off play though even if I'm occasionally wrong on her, but conditional clears on xtoxm and titus are massively useful to me right now.

[Krazy]

Town
Bins -- spewed town by RCE's iso
Joan -- claims someone has an inno on her

above average town
FA -- more likely town due to [other game reasons]; FA town creates conditional likely town in:
Xtoxm, Titus
ofrhz town off play

/ pedit -- will think about FA's case momentarily

leantown
Dr Easy Bake -- feel like maybe town off the sheer volume of fluffposting in early game

leaves PoE of:

Something_Smart, Chara, Vorkuta, Creature, Shiro

Who can give me 2 townreads out of those 5?

[Krazy]

All their posts about zulfy

They were a bit obssessed with RCE too but RCE was traitor and scum didn't know he is scum. That is look like he is wagoning partner cause others are voting them.

but zulfy was also traitor so ofrhz wouldn't be informed about him either?

you're right that she was bandwagoning and if you want to scumread for that I'll think about it but I'm a bit confused because I don't think ofrhz as groupscum is informed of zulfy's alignment?

[Krazy]

Congratulations on spewing yourself town FA lol

[Krazy]

yeah depends on how bastard you think the game is. 2 traitors would seriously curtail your investigative power and create a lot of wifom

but I honestly cannot imagine boon rolling a game with 0 groupscum so I think we can go with titus and xtoxm as both town? unless there's like, a fucking "PT godfather" possible

or what about symbiote, would your shot get refunded if you hit an unclaimed ascetic?

[Krazy]

kinda feel like 2x traitor + scum symbiote/ascetic would be too much actually?

[Krazy]

Anyway I'll mull over your Nick read tonight.

In the mean time:

Something_Smart, Chara, Vorkuta, Creature, Shiro

you see anything reliably town in this lot?

[Krazy]

Yeah FA is town.

Xtoxm isn't 100% cleared because we don't know if FA was roleblocked last night or not; given she said she was checking Joan, it's not unlikely she would have been RB'd.

But until we have any reason to think scum have a roleblocker, I'm okay not lynching him today.

[Krazy]

DEB so far you've said vork is town cause you like him, in between drunk math can you walk us through a reason to townread that doesn't rely on your personal feelings toward the player outside of this game?

[Krazy]

Actually that's a great point, vork is a strong mech player so it's kinda weird he failed to comprehend fa's mech claim

I feel like if you look at ultimate werewolf you would be underwhelmed by vork here. Instead you're towning him. What's up with that deb?

[Krazy]

Ok people I am making a clean slate here and will participate in the game from now on. Who is hyped?

Ok people I am making a clean slate here and will participate in the game from now on. Who is hyped?

ditto

feels gr8

so...

how's it going guys?

[Krazy]

Getting really bored of waiting for Shiro to post more; Zulfy not even mentioning her or the proposed CFD on her slot makes me wonder if the reason he gave up was because the next best option was a full scum role.

Question is whether RCE says absolutely nothing of substance about her as a scum slot but it's possible; it's interesting that *neither* mentions her at all despite her being almost the only other proposed wagon that anyone was interested in.

Kill then was non-informational that wouldn't implicate? I'm not totally in love with the theory but there's just soooo little spew from her that I need something to base a read on.

I could be wrong but I want more VOTE: Shiro in the thread one way or the other

[Krazy]

Krazy is town if I haven't said that yet.

FA should target DEB and Krazy tonight.

+1

Interesting

VOTE: Creature

I kinda thought the d1 read was unusual and while it's possible something changed or you forgot your read this is kind of an interesting flip with no noticeable trajectory

[Krazy]

Actually that's a great point, vork is a strong mech player so it's kinda weird he failed to comprehend fa's mech claim

I can visit people, but if I visit them my shot will be recharged and I will visit them again, also I am a loud maniac I gotta visit them compulsively again and then I can cop them and then I can uncop them and I will be recharged if I visit them.

What on earth does it mean to uncop them or is this just a weird joke

[Krazy]

That's like...

5 posts away from 800 posts of difference.

Yeah, I'm more just trying to remember if you've ever townread me day 1 other than when you were scum

It's not so much the flip, it's that I was kinda surprised by the day 1 townread in the first place

[Krazy]

I don't know creature is scum I mostly just want to understand why he townread me day 1 when that doesn't happen almost ever

Also he definitely townreads me more as scum so yeah I'd like to make sure I feel like his thought process is real.

[Krazy]

Yosh, I think I know which course of action is correct here.

vote:Chara

@Boon

[Krazy]

Yeah, I'm more just trying to remember if you've ever townread me day 1 other than when you were scum

I townread you Large 220

Yeah except I'm town this game and a) no, you forgot I was in the game and null scum read my play until b) you townread my replace out

so usually when I am town and you are town you just really don't read me

[Krazy]

I don't get why vork didn't out the hood partner already?

[Krazy]

So this game should have been called the hoodom menace?

[Krazy]

Wait you hooded joan too?

[Krazy]

Multihooder and a multi pt cop ok

Hmm

And deb is also compulsive hooder? But only single...

That makes deb more obviously neg. utility then?

Ss you are not compulsive?

[Krazy]

*sighs*
I'm doing this because my partner insists on it even though I disagree.

I've been hooded.

Why would either of you disagree with outing a hood when a pt cop claimed

[Krazy]

Ss you are not compulsive?

No I'm not compulsive. I'll make sure not to target anyone we might want to check, unfortunately I myself am already not a valid check.

You can hood bins I guess? Not even sure I'd want you to use the second shot

[Krazy]

Pretty sure deb just hoods joan tonight

[Krazy]

Oh yeah that's a good idea, hood bins and ofrhz

I'd rather have deb hood joan and get the second confirm there

[Krazy]

Wait, can't DEB just target ofrhz? It will fail, and then he'll be a valid check, right? I think if your hood action fails the hood never gets created.

To be clear "lynching ss would make joan ic" has crossed my mind more than once today. I think having two people having confirmed joan is a good idea if you are town.

Also not sure what the point in having two people ascetic check ofrhz is vs. reflective friendly neighbor being double confirmed

[Krazy]

Bins who did you hood?

[Krazy]

1249 is mechanically dubious enough that I'm like... Hmm on ss rn

Ss why would you not want vork to out hood with an outed pt cop?

[Krazy]

Right but wouldn't you want fa to know you are already in a hood?

[Krazy]

Hmm

Mostly cause I think town you knows a fn double checked is way better than an ascetic check since one tells us an alignment and the other doesn't. I know fypov joan is already confirmed but even so... Meh

[Krazy]

what's the result of your vork pt discussion?

[Krazy]

Wait, can't DEB just target ofrhz? It will fail, and then he'll be a valid check, right? I think if your hood action fails the hood never gets created.

Wait this actually makes sense what am I talking about

[Krazy]

Deb targets ofrhz tonight, fa does deb tonight, deb does joan tomorrow night, ez

[Krazy]

Yeah I get it now I missed the point of what you were saying before somehow

[Krazy]

It has a lot more to do with me preferring to just not at all have to think about joan's alignment since solving is a lot easier with her just 100% ic'd rather than ic'd-once-ss-dies

[Krazy]

Resistance to what?

You can lynch vork if you want lol

[Krazy]

Eh even if vork is scum me having a correct read on creature and ss is probably more important to the win than his lynch lol

Chara/shiro is interesting, it's the closest to ai behavior from shiro we've seen yet so I don't know I want to discourage her from getting into the game even if vork does end up being today's lynch

[Krazy]

Guys what are the chances that the whole mafia is traitors or at the very elast a two memeber mafia and all traitors. Noowhere in the flipped roles does it say that they dont count as part of jingle for win con.

This would be imo thematically appropriate since the bad guys were pretty much all incognito in phantom menance and would make FA almost wholy negative utility with so many neighborizers and hoods.

I thought about this but then what happens if the killing mafia dies early? Then what, there just are no night kills? I guess I could see like, "Goon/sith" and "backup goon/sith apprentice" as matching in flavor but I have a really hard time seeing Boon create a game where scum don't have a PT.

I guess SS's role then does nominally fit the exception here and would also give him cover for why he starts the game in a hood, but it's also just a negative utility role for town so *shrug*. Doesn't in itself make him scum.

[Krazy]

yeah I don't think I'm gonna change my vote this phase

just found the claim that negates my ability that I want to see fliped.

?

Yeah she wants to lynch Vork, what's the question?

Also this was literally 1 minute after one of your posts so it's just like, interesting that you're reacting to it now

[Krazy]

How exactly is Jar Jar obvious scum flavor? I would have thought Jar Jar would be like a VT flavor or something, or maybe a miller. He spends the whole movie working with the good guys

[Krazy]

So deb hood joan, ss hood bins

[Krazy]

Fa it tells you which guilty you get right? so like checking shiro and chara you would know which of the two has a pt if one had one? Its not like if you visit both it will say "one of ur targets has a pt"?

[Krazy]

Wait FA did you get a "no hood" result or did you get "no result" + refunded? Am I wrong that thinking you were roleblocked is even a possibility here?

[Krazy]

So basically in addition to:
-two traitors not in a hood
-a compulsive neighborizor
-a start of game hood
-a double-hooder

we also have to consider
-scum roleblocker/jk that targeted FA because she was going to confirm joan
-scum ascetic/commuter
-scum rolestopper that targeted their own

yeah I guess FA's role isn't as broken as it seems at first glance, this setup was designed to make what would normally be an insanely broken role basically 'only kinda ok'

still given *how much* negative utility for the pt cop is already known in the game, like, idk, I still think the results on xtoxm and titus are at least above rand?

[Krazy]

We're going to have joan double-confirmed tomorrow so why would we want that?

[Krazy]

hmm good point actually

FA do your shots recharge if you hit a PT? or would that be cutting you off from invests later on down the line?

[Krazy]

I'd rather just holster tbh.

But scum isn't factionally multitasking so any confirmed night action from you is still good.

Hod bins tonight, hood fa tomorrow, etc. Etc. Means you are less likely to be scum especially if we get another red flip

[Krazy]

sounds like I'm not getting creature today so I guess we get going on vork then?

VOTE: vork

[Krazy]

eh since nauci's game other people insisting you're town means all of jack and shit to me

[Krazy]

also you dodged why you townread me day 1 which was my main question

[Krazy]

What?

[Krazy]

also you dodged why you townread me day 1 which was my main question

Kept thinking you weren't like Large 220.

Eh fair enough, although that was also the reason rce gave so...

Feel like two scum aren't gonna fake meta on me from the same game so there's that

[Krazy]

How you feel about shiro v chara?

[Krazy]

shiro thinks chara is scum iirc and that's like the only other exchange in the thread that is even close to interesting

And I think a few people think shiro's absence and lack of activity isn't great

Think there's a scum between the two if them?

[Krazy]

There's a guilty on Vork by Creature?

Also, I saw something about a PT?

I have one for my own notes. Not sure how that's relevant.

VOTE: Vork

I'll try to be back tomorrow.

No...?

I think vork is mostly being voted because he's asycnhed with the gamestate

[Krazy]

But doesn't this apply to me?

But my real life is a shit storm.

I guess you missed this but FA claimed a soft inno on you

[Krazy]

Sup ss want to give intent and/or hammer so we can get this show on the road

[Krazy]

So you think its Xtoxm and that... FA was roleblocked or something I guess?

Claiming VB was like, almost a nice touch but also kinda almost feels like too much

why does hammering zulfy make you conftown?

[Krazy]

also have you been ignoring the hood or do you feel like you have a better read on SS there or...?

[Krazy]

S_S is conf!town because hooding/pocketing me is a stupid play from scum!S_S

but... why? like, if scum were informed there would be a pt cop, or inferred it somehow, then wouldn't he be setting you up to be mislynched later? I'm not saying that's the case I just don't get you 'conftowning' him off this

[Krazy]

Well I don't think any roles are characters from the movie Vork.

I like that reaction though, that's that good shit.

what

what are you talking about

he said jack shit about you, how would you possibly know he was or wasn't a traitor?

like that post is the only time he mentions you at all?

[Krazy]

Because scum would have traitor searching as their top priority on D1/D2 and take care to not hammer a potential ally.

how is this supposed to be possible when he literally spent the entire day anti-spewing?

[Krazy]

My actions clearly could not be described as those of someone acting in the best interest of scum.

I mean, main faction scum hammering a traitor for towncred is like... not that big of a deal, Boon hard bussed his traitor in anime upick just to keep the pressure off Alch so... idk this argument just seems super weak to me

[Krazy]

This just feels like a really sub-optimal play and much much more likely to come from town!S_S who rolled against scum!vork 3 times now, as opposed to scum!S_S who wants to... do stuff.

feel like as a neighborizor usually I would target people I townread strongly and think I can solve with so yeah, idk

sell me on scum shiro if you think you're townie enough to not get lynched today or something

[Krazy]

Vork what do you think of how DEB has treated your wagon? Why do you both feel really weird toward each other with this big out of game thing and you creating a weird category for him just like you did for someone in EICN?

[Krazy]

Just a heads up. I support the Vjörk wagon, even though it pains me to think my bae might be scum. I don't like the hood claim even though I'm inclined to believe SS. BUT I made a promise games ago that I will never vote him. So, sorry, I can't help the wagon along.

idk if you do flip town this is kinda a weird post

I mean it's a weird post either way but I thought I'd ask you about it while you're still alive

[Krazy]

There's probably one partner left shiro. where are you expecting "resistance" to come from if he's scum?

[Krazy]

So deb you cross confirmed joan?

[Krazy]

You hooded bins then?

[Krazy]

Interesting.

Anyone know if FA was online during the night cycle?

[Krazy]

Just saying cause she already checked titus once

[Krazy]

True but "shiro+joan" sounds exactly like the planned checks fa was going to go for.