BTE: Boon Wars - The Boondom Menace

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Hi I’m ascetic

VOTE: krazy

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But how did you end up in the wrong house?

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Imma prodge until Star Wars discussion is over

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Imma prodge until Star Wars discussion is over

"vote yume with me because reasons"

blah blah

What reasons

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I’ve signed up for games with nicorobin before but she’s never played any of them

I’m mildly interested to see how she plays (or if she even plays)

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lol

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Like is this a mechanical ability or was this a mod decision?

I'm 90% sure that this is mechanical- that's the whole point.

I mean it doesn't affect us too much (noooo papa dinosaur.....) but yeah

Check the other thread

[ofrhz]

This thread seems more fun!

yeet

[ofrhz]

Oof I touched a nerve

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Hi I’m ascetic

VOTE: krazy

Why'd you pick an ascetic role?

I didn’t want to play the game with the “unique mechanic”

[ofrhz]

the singleball game

Riiiiight.....

VOTE: xtoxm

?

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He’s just asking for you to simultaneously play the game while waiting for people’s lists. That’s not a big ask

I don’t really watch Star Wars so you can just make up my list if you’d like. I don’t see how it’s extremely relevant to this game

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He’s just asking for you to simultaneously play the game while waiting for people’s lists. That’s not a big ask

I don’t really watch Star Wars so you can just make up my list if you’d like. I don’t see how it’s extremely relevant to this game

So you’ve never seen any of them or you have and you didn’t like them?

I think I’ve seen the first two movies but I don’t remember much about them

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It’s Star Wars themed game, of course it’s relevant.

I think that’s just flavor. It’s still a booneytoonz mafia game at its core

I picked this game because I wanted a regular mafia game like it was advertised as

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It’s Star Wars themed game, of course it’s relevant.

I think that’s just flavor. It’s still a booneytoonz mafia game at its core

I picked this game because I wanted a regular mafia game like it was advertised as

We had no idea one would be a multiball game and Ausuka has way better day play. Now I feel bad

Why did you pick this game RCE?

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tfw I have more reads for the game I’m not in

[ofrhz]

This is no longer the fun thread

[ofrhz]

idk or I would've tried to do it already

Do you have any reads I guess

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If we're going to mislynch nico I'd rather sooner than later and this can basically be what her scumgame looks like when she's not with mastina

I think the majority of the people I can remember being in the game are town

I remember thinking SS was towny

My brain says DEB is probably town, but I'm also exasperated with his playstyle and don't want to townread him

That's it lol

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VOTE: joan

[ofrhz]

It's important that you target me.

By “you”, you mean krazy?

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True story, literally every game I've played with Yume where she's been scum she has claimed mech immediately, usually something relatively close to her actual role.

I wish I could say what separates her scum game from her town game but she's literally 3/3 for rolling scum against me so I've literally never seen her town firsthand.

The only difference here so far is that usually she actually votes someone when calling them scum in the early game, but not voting people she's calling scum is actually something she does a lot as scum in later dayphases so I can't say it's TI.

The next beat for scum Yume is to omgus someone scumreading her.

How are we at three posts and I already feel like I'm looking at "Yume's scum game: classic hits"?

Target me. Target me. Target me. Target me.

? I feel like this was directed at krazy but ok

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And to those who are blindly sheeping him, use your brains. Ask yourselves why would I want to be targeted.

I can come up with reasons why scum would want to be targeted

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I was memeing about the bulletproof but hey what do you know.

What’s this referring to

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VOTE: bins

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can someone recap the last 19 pages? Does it amtter? Has anythign significant happened? Can I rpetend they do not exist?

It's just worthless Star Wars discussion afair.

Did you pick scum creature

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Oh but creature is partnered with luv

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I actually am INFP! Sometimes E not I though, depends on the context.
VOTE: Something Smart[/s]

Why?

[ofrhz]

I’m not townreading RCE yet which is exciting new territory for me

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Why are people voting for Krazy?

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RCE what was your last scumgame

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Why are people voting for Krazy?

why are you voting for me, cutie

tell me why you wouldn't pick a scumgame, considering no one has scum meta on you

Probably just this

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Pagetop!

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Probably just this

whats wrong with speculation based on picks

i'd do it for all of you if i knew anything about you

I don’t see why not having any completed scum games makes anyone more likely to pick a scum role

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I think SS has been sufficiently game solving to call him town for now though I haven’t seen his scum game so I’m not as confident in that as I’d like to be

I feel like I should have a read on vork but I don’t (???)

I don’t have an impression of like over half that list tbh :/

[ofrhz]

Ss townread on chara rather

Yeah pretty much this I guess

There was also the way that he handled DEB early that I thought was a little too abrasive to come from scum

[ofrhz]

Man how are we at 26 pages lol

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Probably just this

whats wrong with speculation based on picks

i'd do it for all of you if i knew anything about you

I don’t see why not having any completed scum games makes anyone more likely to pick a scum role

you know im not scumreading them because of this right

it was more of a pushing point

I suppose you could say that was the part of your push that I didn’t like

What do you think of DEB now and why are you voting for Krazy?

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So not really a readslist but where I'm at with a few slots that stick out. I like Krazy pushing the gamestate, usually +Town when Krazy prioritizes pressure / passivity. Also hasn't had an weird interactions with ofhrz, outside chance it's because they are S/S together but Ofhrz would probably be more enthusiastic in the main thread if that were the case. That might not be the right word though. Plus I liked the push on Joan, I don't feel it was hot air and Joan responded poorly to the push.

FA claiming to protect doesn't seem like S/S so is probably town regardless of Joan's alignment. Bins' Lamist interjections after the wagon lost steam and then pushing Krazy off of it is the scummiest thing I've seen this game.

Vork's early vote on Xtoxm was pretty townie. Xtoxm trying to put it down as Vorkuta just not paying attention to the OP doesn't sit well. Scum would be more aware just by proxy of having more eyes. But the vote was on him so I get the bias. Plus outing the fire and ice info is town motivated. SS' crossthread read can probably be applied to Xtoxm's partner but not necessarily Xtoxm if that makes sense. If not I'll break it down more at some point.

Ehh the rest are null or Fringe reads. I had Zulfy slight town for something early but on reread I couldn't figure out what it was. Now he's gotta earn it.

You feel different this game RCE

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I suppose you could say that was the part of your push that I didn’t like

What do you think of DEB now and why are you voting for Krazy?

fair

still don't like DEB

don't think krazy has been posting anything great and just seems scummy do u want more detail lol

yeah I kinda do, at the very least it'd help me better sort you

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VOTE: zulfy

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Oh but creature is partnered with luv

He doesn't like scum either

Huh I got the opposite impression from him

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Nick - town af

Heh??

it me

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lol creature

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would you like to join us on Zulfy?

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Why Titus? And I was not in Musicals

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oh, right

do you think you're playing differently this game?

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I was thinking you're playing differently in general, but come to think of it, I haven't seen that many of your recent games. What was your last scumgame?

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RCE is probtown? not as blindingly town as he usually is but I'm probably not going there today

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Titus isn't a bad vote either mainly because I have a hard time seeing dave picking scum

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Was it that you obvtown as town? fwiw I don't think it's worth tanking your town game to help your scum game, but I'll take that into consideration

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Krazy, what thoughts did the elephant have wrt Creature's alignment?

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RCE is probtown? not as blindingly town as he usually is but I'm probably not going there today

As much as I don't care for his thoughts on me or Krazy, I agree. I don't think RCE could recognize posturing if it bit him on the ass. But wrong doesn't mean scum and he's not the first person to mistake Tired!Titus for Scum!Titus.

What did you think of 732?

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I'm just on Zulfy because other people are on Zulfy and I don't townread him

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Hard to play this game with more than half the game MIA

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Huh, he said he had thoughts tho. Something to do with what LUV said?

I've given my thoughts on the other game up until maybe ~4 days ago and then I haven't caught up since. Enigma has been too busy and hasn't read past page 10 of this game or something. He said he would catch up, but I could probably make a Soon TM meme there somewhere.

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Who are we wagoning now, and where do I sign up?

Zulfy. It’s in the vc

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I think Creature is town!

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DEB, where are your reads at?

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Hot take: Vorkuta is town

[ofrhz]

Common knowledge & universal consensus =/= controversial "hot take"

But cool

It was universal consensus?

[ofrhz]

Isn’t a Chinese fire drill where you get out of your car and swap seats

[ofrhz]

Let’s wagon someone and maybe something interesting will happen

[ofrhz]

Am I being bettlejuiced? No thanks.

This was the last response to a wagon

How does this strike you as a reaction nick?

Could go either way

[ofrhz]

Well Zulfy is Zulfy

Also maybe if a wagon hits L-2, something real will happen this time

What do you mean Zulfy is Zulfy

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VOTE: Shiro with me then

already voting there, this is just for emphasis

I'd follow you to the end of the world Vjörk!
VOTE: Shiro

What are your thoughts on the Zulfy wagon? Why vote shiro but not Zulfy?

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The Zulfy wagon has been sitting there for days. Why didn’t you vote there even before vork put his vote on shiro?

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Does anyone townread DEB?

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The Zulfy wagon is a beetlejuice wagon ffs and look how that turned out

What do you mean? I'm wagoning him because he's not doing anything, not really because he beetlejuiced.

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PAGING DR ANGEL

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Pagetop!

[ofrhz]

It is but I'm still not opposed to it and definitely not seeing how it's a beetlejuice wagon

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I'm also lowkey fine with it because I know insomnia hates playing scum lol

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Titus would also be a fine lurker wagon because dave also hates playing scum

Firebringer prefers playing scum I think? Or is at least good at it

tfw it's page 37 and I'm using this stuff to determine my vote

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Which one of you fucks have partners who killed PC Butterman X(

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Can the people not voting please vote

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Still here.

Can the people not voting please vote

[ofrhz]

I’m traveling today and may not be here closer to deadline

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Actually I’ll probably end up getting WiFi on the plane

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Zulfy is at l-2

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You should wait more than 15 minutes before hammering, not everyone is here all the time. Why didn’t you guys unvote when SS asked for some more time?

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15 minutes is already a gift

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Since I refuse to claim this time around

I’ve seen both town and scum say this and when it comes from town, it’s not always VT-indicative. Nor do people always remain adamant in their refusal to claim as they get closer to being hammered

15 mins gives little time for Zulfy to change his mind about not claiming

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Oh RCE was scum after all

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Me hammering zulfy made me conf!town guys
like what is this vote on me even

even DrEB can be conf!town as well

Why would it make you guys conftown?

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Yes, I would see no difference if my action fails or if the person I'm targeting has no pt.

That's why ascetic is a red herring.

Yea my role fudges your result, but I don’t see why it’d make me scum

Especially since there were already two flipped traitors who are false negatives for your role if that makes sense

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I'm going to be irrational
and ignore this

as I know I will be talked out of it if I engage
and I'm not interested in that option

Wait you think FA and Xtoxm are scum together? Or am I not reading that right

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My read on you is complicated. At first, I blankly trusted your claim and thought nothing more of it. I still almost fully believe it and believe that you are town. Vjörk's suspicions came around and that changed everything (When the fire nation attacked? lol). While there are holes in some of his logic, which could be easily explained (his words), my gut is telling me to trust his. We have a rich, cheesy history together. I don't have this with you. Once seeds of doubt are planted it's hard to root them up for me. I'm too open to conspiracies to just forget about them.
I haven't fully decided so don't worry. I mean I unvoted didn't I?
Sorry, but if I'm in a game with my bae, consider me the most pocketed individual in the world. If anyone has seen the show Lucifer, I'm like the Eve to Vjörk's Lucifer.

Remind me why you townread Vorkuta?

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want to sort in DEB/Vork

+1

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What's on your mind Creature?

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VOTE: deb

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We perfectly Beetlejuiced you Shiro. Job done UNVOTE:

Why did you unvote?

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Me hammering zulfy made me conf!town guys

No, only makes it more likely to be a bus.

Zulfy was traitor tho

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oh fuck they were a traitor too hmm

Did you see this post?

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So uhhh I have a confession to make

I’m not actually ascetic lol. I’m a disabler and claimed ascetic to avoid drawing TPRs

So the plan to have someone hood me isn’t going to work

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I guess I could see like, "Goon/sith" and "backup goon/sith apprentice" as matching in flavor

Since this is something I’ve been thinking about and now that you bring this up, I figure I see what everyone thinks.

What would be the opinion on a

Mass Flavor Claim?

Everyone can say the name of their role flavor. Zulfy was scum and he was Jar Jar. Now I can ironically love Jar Jar till the moon and back but this is obvious scum flavor. RC was scum and they were a droid called Battle Dave.
Don’t go shaking in your boots, this is just a

Flavor Claim.

This wouldn’t give scum any PR information that isn’t already out there.
This would only split people up into scummy and not scummy Star Wars characters. We can then evaluate the scummy characters and see if this makes sense to act on.

I don't think flavor claiming works, Alisae was scum in the other game and flipped something that was "town" in flavor according to Enigma

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Vork who's scum?

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Ow I got prodded

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VOTE: vork

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I said earlier that I was looking to vote in vork/DEB because of their unnatural reactions to FA’s innos

Vork seems pretty confident on FA town but that doesn’t seem to have impacted his reads on xtoxm or Titus

No one seems interested in DEB but I thought his flip flops between vork and fa were scummy

Also I’m not sure why I can’t vote after being prodded, it’s not like there was much content since the last time I’ve posted lol

With probably only 2 scum left on day 2 in a large, what resistance would there be to a wagon on scum?

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What did you think of vork’s push on you, Shiro?

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I will say that vork’s read on SS makes me kind of doubt that he’s scum, so I’m down to wagon DEB should there be more interest there beyond me and bins

But this game has really grinded to a halt and I think we need a flip to get it going

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Oh spicy

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There's a list of possible roles in Boon's games; Agent isn't one of them: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11012152

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What's a variant?

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I'm a boon bank role. The wording makes it seem like I'm not a variant unless there's more than 1 boon bank role in the game.

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There can also be 2 variants in a large. Unclear if that means there must be 2 or up to 2

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Titus, why do you think Shiro is town?

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The day just broke, we're in no rush if you think Shiro's response will spew their alignment

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Oh nice