schadd_'s mini normal review, June 2019

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Subject: Normal Queue Thread (Players and Mods)

i shall become in. to moderate a miniature game

12p, 9v3

town doctor
town combined tracker rolecop
town novice neapolitan
town ascetic universal backup
5 vt
2 goon
mafia 2-shot jailkeeper

Spoiler:

welcome to hell! you are a

vanilla townie.

you have no abilities during night phases but may talk and vote during the day.

you win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

please confirm by telling me what the bolded green text says.

welcome to hell! you are a

town doctor.

each night, you may visit another player to protect them from one kill.

you win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

please confirm by telling me what the bolded green text says.

welcome to hell! you are a

town combined tracker rolecop.

each night, you may investigate another player to both learn who they visited that night (if anyone) and what their role is (not alignment).

you win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

please confirm by telling me what the bolded green text says.

welcome to hell! you are a

town novice neapolitan.

each night after the first, you may investigate another player to learn whether or not they are a vanilla townie.

you win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

please confirm by telling me what the bolded green text says.

welcome to hell! you are a

town ascetic universal backup.

if a townie dies who isn't vanilla, you will inherit all abilities they had at death. non-killing actions that target you will fail.

you win when all threats to the town are eliminated.

please confirm by telling me what the bolded green text says.

welcome to canada! you are a

mafia goon

. you may talk to your partner in here at any time, and you may also talk and vote during day phases.

you win when either mafia control half the vote during a day phase or when all townies are dead, or nothing can prevent one of these scenarios from happening.

please confirm by telling me what the bolded red text says, or by posting in your mafia PT.

welcome to canada! you are a

mafia 2-shot jailkeeper

. twice, at night, you may visit a player, which will both cause any of their actions to fail and prevent kills targeting them from succeeding. you may talk to your partner in here at any time, and you may also talk and vote during day phases.

you win when either mafia control half the vote during a day phase or when all townies are dead, or nothing can prevent one of these scenarios from happening.

please confirm by telling me what the bolded red text says, or by posting in your mafia PT.

daytalk on

[schadd_]

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[mastina]

I think the setup is balanced, but believe that the proper formatting for the combined tracker-rolecop is just "tracker rolecop", not "combined tracker rolecop"; even though the latter is in my opinion more clear and describes what the role is better, I think that strictly speaking the word 'combined' is not Normal and may confuse players.

[schadd_]

thot we added that recently

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We did in march.

Tracker rolecop is a role that each night can either track someone or rolecop someone.
Combined tracker rolecop is a role that can target a single person to both track and rolecop each night.
Multitasking tracker rolecop is a role that each night can use a track action and a rolecop action, either on the same person or on two different people.

[mastina]

Oh, forgot about us actually making that addition even though it is a really important one.

Anyway: setup's Normal, setup's balanced.
All it needs is the result PMS, and you've got your /pass.

[schadd_]

not that it's relevant here but do we have a resolution plan for when two inheritable roles die at the same time for UB

[player] visited {nobody, name} last night; they are {vanilla, a doctor, a novice neapolitan, a 2-shot jailkeeper}

you have received no result.

[player] is {a vanilla townie, not a vanilla townie}

you have received no result.

you have inherited the abilities of [player whomst died]. {the sentence after "you are a __" in that players role PM}

[schadd_]

thinking about formalizing the typical assumptions of a UB (something like "theres no visitors, fruit vendors, voyeurs, other shitty roles" inform + mafia knows there's a UB) but thats messy and hard to execute. and this setup looks so

nice

[implosion]

not that it's relevant here but do we have a resolution plan for when two inheritable roles die at the same time for UB

Yes the formalization is that whichever role is alphabetically earliest is inherited

no and we never will

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also i agree this setup is really aesthetically pleasing

[schadd_]

when relevant you can like have the mod make a power hierarchy of the roles and make them inherit the strongest one

[schadd_]

i really wanted to just crank out a nice one

[implosion]

Yeah that seems reasonable. I don't think it *necessarily* needs to inherit the strongest one, just making the mod make a hierarchy seems reasonable similar to the solutions for compulsive roles or multiple bodyguards

[mastina]

(Also I think that this is considered /passed, but just in case it isn't: it is now. )