Newbie 1943: Crosswords (Game Over)

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Sorry for late entrance. This game started when I was asleep. I'm new to the forum and I have played mafia on 2 other forums.

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I'm catching up and it looks like everyone is still at rvs except for TemporalLich who said he declared his rvs vote no more and it looked like he made a serious vote. I couldn't tell if Teacher was still at rvs or if he also did a serious vote.

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I'm catching up and it looks like everyone is still at rvs except for TemporalLich who said he declared his rvs vote no more and it looked like he made a serious vote. I couldn't tell if Teacher was still at rvs or if he also did a serious vote.

I’m not in rvs. Not sure why you assumed that.

Teacher said he was trying to be funny and said he failed. I'm guessing he was directing this at you and that's why I thought you were still at rvs.

This is my first time quoting and I don't know how this will come out.

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Too many players have been focusing on Robbnva and the only players who haven't been focusing on him are Spangled, Cyan, Cyrus, and me. A player who is getting focused by multiple players I tend to think that player could be town. If you guys think Robbnva is scum, then that would mean either Spangled or Cyan would be his scum buddy. The interaction between Robbnva and Cyrus doesn't look like a scum pair. I think Robbnva could be town since so many players have been focusing on him.

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Robbnva's post on #96 and #123 doesn't look like something a scum would say and he even said he's willing to get lynched. Scum should never give up like that or else they are just letting their scum team down.

On the first page it says day 1 will end in 10 days and we still have plenty of time to discuss.

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no office intended Adorable but you do realize if you drag the day out and rob still gets lynch and flips scum instead of town you look bad right? just saying not ment to be harsh.

I've explained on #85. Just because I defend someone who turns out to be scum, that doesn't mean I will also be scum, it would mean I messed up on my read.

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Robb seems to be giving me town vibes and as for the other players, some of them I am null on and others looked sus with the fast votes which looked like Robb almost got hammered.

Cyrus - You said Cyan looks like a town lean to you because he got mad at the self vote and all. Which # was that on? I will check and see.

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I found it now. It looked like Phone0x was practicing on voting and I think that's why he voted himself. A player getting mad at someone voting themself is NAI.

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Connor's vote on Robb looked random saying he is uneasy about rvs and he wanted to try out new things. He was the third person to vote Robb, he only made 1 post, and I would like to hear more from him.

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Everyone is scum reading Robb except for two players. I was hoping to hear from Connor but he never came back and this slot will probably get mod killed or subbed out.

Cyan looks like he is just following other players scum reading Robb which looks sus and normally scum follow other players.


VOTE: Cyan Talon

Fixed

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How do I bold my vote?

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I don't know how Cyan plays as town and I voted him because he was the last person to sus Robb and it looked like he was following other players who were scum reading Robb. I'm also sus of Connor and Red. I didn't understand Red's voting reason on Robb and it would be nice if Red can explain his vote reasoning on Robb.

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Robb vs Temporal looked like it was town vs town.

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connorcompton
Cyan Talon
TemporalLich (SE)
Robbnva (SE)

I think scumteam is between these people and i think temporal is most likeliest mafia here, least likeliest probably alpha m

Robb and Temporal can't be a scum team because they have been scum reading one another and I don't think Cyan and Temporal are a scum team because Temporal was also suspicious of Cyan and he voted Cyan. Connor's vote on Robb was suspicious and he never came back. I wonder if Connor is scum who abandoned this game? I have seen alot of scum sub out before.

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I didn't even notice Baezu was on V/LA till now. Now that explains why we haven't gotten an announcement on how many days left we have and why no one replaced Connor.

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Phone0ix is one of those players I'm starting to get suspicious of. On his first post he said it's his first game here and has played 35 games on ToS. The way how he has been playing in this game starts to get me to worry he could be scum who wants to watch town point fingers at each other and I have seen alot of games where mafia watch town pointing fingers at each other. Phone0ix whole approach in this game, is this really how he plays as town in ToS?

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Phone0ix is one of those players I'm starting to get suspicious of. On his first post he said it's his first game here and has played 35 games on ToS. The way how he has been playing in this game starts to get me to worry he could be scum who wants to watch town point fingers at each other and I have seen alot of games where mafia watch town pointing fingers at each other. Phone0ix whole approach in this game, is this really how he plays as town in ToS?

red said phone is town but maybe they could be working together after all temp thinks reds scum what do you think of red or temp ?

I've also expressed my suspicion on Red earlier. I didn't understand his voting reason on Rob and he said Phone0ix is town. I think Temp and Robb is town vs town.

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yea connar and phone could be scum maybe as of now both of them are bloging the game now

I honestly won't be surprised if they are both a scum team. They both voted Robb fast and it looked like they wanted to end the day early.

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If you guys think Temporal really is scum, then the only person I could think of who could be Temporal's scum buddy would be Cyrus if Temporal really is scum.

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So Temp is getting scum read for unvoting Robb and then voting him again? In past games I have seen town do this and I don't think scum are capable of this kind of play. I have already said I think Robb vs Temp is town vs town and the only player I could think of who could be Temp's scum buddy would be Cyrus if you guys think Temp really is scum.

About #483, why would Temp get hammered if he was to claim a pr? Pr are important and lynching a pr is actually what scum would do or who ever does hammer him could be seen as a counter claim if Temp claims the same pr as someone else.

I have a theory if Red is scum, Sera would be his scum buddy and I also find it interesting Red said Phone is town and it looked like to me Red would be scum if Phone does flip town since he was feeling confident Phone is town.

I still don't see anything towny on Phone's vote on Robb and I did not like the vote reason. Phone voted Robb for overreacting to an rvs which is a really bad reason to vote someone and it looked scummy.

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So that explains why Temp was suspicious of Phone's post on page 2. I have seen alot of town flip flopping and they do this because they try to figure out who is scum and they sometimes get mislynched for flip flopping.

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These are the players I have been suspecting so far.

Red - Town reads Phone but Phone's vote on Robb was suspicious and I start to get the feeling Red is scum who knows Phone will flip town, I didn't understand Red's vote reason on Robb and he said the scum team are between these players Temp, Cyan, Robb, or Connor. I can't remember the 4th player but I think it was Connor he mentioned.

Phone - 4th person to vote Robb and said Robb was overreacting to an rvs vote and that is not a good vote reason.

Connor/Sera - 3rd person to vote Robb and says he is open to trying new things and just says Robb is scum without even explaining why. Sera subs in for Connor and puts Temp on the scum list but I have seen so many town flip flopping and I've hardly ever seen scum flip flopping.

Cyan - Hard to read him and I saw it suspicious of him to just follow other players on scum reading Robb when pretty much most of the players were scum reading Robb except for 2 players at the time.

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To try and make a case on Cyan- Post #100 and Post #106 where he comments on Phoenix's claim feels a little forced, I mean it was rather obvious that the cop claim wasn't serious given that we started on Day 1, and I do feel like Posts #177, 178, and 180 try to take both sides of the Robb v. Temp debate, and if Robb, Temp IS Town v. Town, I could see scum maybe just not knowing, or not caring, which side to push in that fight and therefore their responses feeling a little hedgy and free-flowing at times.

That said, I like his admittance of his passive behavior in #269 a bit, his #361 Connor read feels genuine and comes across like a townie thought process, I like his soft push against Cyrus in #382. Overall, like with Red, there are scummy posts here and there but in general I can see a lot of potential town thought process shining through and there is a content I really agree with in there.

The issue is that I really think that Adorable, Spangled, and Robb are town, we're not lynching a claimed cop with no CC, and I don't see much of a case against phone and want to wait for a replacement. So unless we're lynching Cyrus, that leaves Red and Cyan due to POE, even if I don't really have strong arguments against either. It's a compromise lynch for me.

You mentioned you see a lot of potential town thought process shining through Red and where was that?

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You mentioned you see a lot of potential town thought process shining through Red and where was that?

I liked the way Red called out Temp's slight shift on Phone in #407, I like his general argument against Temp in #339, I like his lack of desire to push for a convenient connor lynch in #365. Overall I can agree with his thought process often when he shares it, and given that I'm town if somebody else is thinking like me I'm more inclined to think that they're town too.

But he's also way too lurky and my townread is very quickly wearing off, partially as a result of that and partially as a result of the fact that he just generally isn't as town as my towncore, and if we need a lynch I'm willing to go for him over somebody I really think is town.

Scum can also come up with cases for town too. Normally I see scum parroting other players also agreeing they think that person is scum. On #556 I listed players I think who could be scum.

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You mentioned you see a lot of potential town thought process shining through Red and where was that?

I liked the way Red called out Temp's slight shift on Phone in #407, I like his general argument against Temp in #339, I like his lack of desire to push for a convenient connor lynch in #365. Overall I can agree with his thought process often when he shares it, and given that I'm town if somebody else is thinking like me I'm more inclined to think that they're town too.

But he's also way too lurky and my townread is very quickly wearing off, partially as a result of that and partially as a result of the fact that he just generally isn't as town as my towncore, and if we need a lynch I'm willing to go for him over somebody I really think is town.

Scum can also come up with cases for town too. Normally I see scum parroting other players also agreeing they think that person is scum. On #556 I listed players I think who could be scum.

Have you played scum, Adorable?
'Cause I'm telling you, it's not easy to look towny - scum necessarily see the game differently to town; they have different priorities and they have to invent their own reads more or less out of nothing (because they know who town is and who isn't), and they have to work to make their interaction with their partner seem legitimate.
It's hard playing scum, which is why we can sort people at all. If it were easy to fit in with the town, the game wouldn't be playable.

I'm new to mafiascum but I'm not new to mafia. I play on two other mafia forums and in one of the mafia forums I play, it is way too dependable on claims and playing as scum is hard because the scum players don't even know what to claim and players don't even focus on their reads. All they do is ask for claims. Some hosts don't allow players to claim at all and instead, the players have to focus on their reads.

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...So are you saying that you know how to play scum or not?

I have played as scum multiple times but I'm bad playing as scum because I don't even know what to fake claim and the players are always asking for claims and night actions. I have won a few games playing as scum and sometimes players will believe my fake claim when I play as scum.

In setups that have only vanilla townies + mafia, I'm always town and those are the type of games asking for claim is useless because players will just claim vanilla townie.

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connorcompton
Cyan Talon
TemporalLich (SE)
Robbnva (SE)

I think scumteam is between these people and i think temporal is most likeliest mafia here, least likeliest probably alpha m

I like 100% agree with this list holy god

Red said he thinks the scum team could be either Connor/Sera, Cyan, Temp, Robb. I don't see Rob and Temp being a scum team because they have been scum reading each other, and I don't think Robb and Connor/Sera are a scum team because Connor was the 3rd person to vote Robb or did you think Connor voted Robb to get town cred if Red or you think Connor and Robb are actually a scum team?

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adorable you said rob getting mad about the self vote was towny but you then told me cyan getting mad about it was nai which one is it cant be both way?

I never said I town read Rob getting mad about the self vote. I town read Robb because too many players have been scum reading him in the beginning and I always tend to town read a player who gets scum read by most of the players. Cyan getting mad about the self vote is NAI.

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Sera's last post was 5 days ago. Looks like we're going to get another replacement after Red.

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I'm willing to lynch any of the players I suspected on my read list on #556.

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Thespio wants to lynch Temp but why lynch him when he claimed Cop and no one counter claimed him? If Phone was the real Cop, why the heck would he recklessly hint as Cop like that? If Phone is scum, I think he did that so that he can get a reaction from the real Cop and I think Phone could be scum for doing that and now Wheme subs in for Phone. If Wheme was the real Cop, he would have voted Temp but instead he votes Cyan. I'm still sus of Red and Thespio subs in for him and he wants to lynch Temp for being Cop 2 and it looks like there are no 2 Cops. I'm not sure about Cyan but I would rather lynch Wheme, Thespio, or Sera.

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It didn't look like Phone claimed Cop and if he really is a Cop, then he shouldn't have done that as his first post. If Temp really is the Cop, then I think he would have reacted to Phone's post which he actually did. Wheme subs in for Phone and if Wheme is the real Cop, he would have voted Temp for claiming Cop but he did not do that and instead he votes Cyan.

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I'm still s

Answer my of questions real quick:
who benefits from a fake cop claim?
who benefits from a Counter claim?
Why would you claim Cop over VT D1 if a PR claim helps scum?

Normally I would believe the counter claim. When I first saw Phone's first post, it didn't look like he claimed Cop and it looked like he was joking but now when I start to think about it if Phone is scum, he might have done that claim to get a reaction from a player who could be a Cop and Temp reacted to Phone's post and Temp claimed Cop when he had 4 votes. If I was the real Cop who had 4 votes about to get lynched, I would have also probably claimed Cop and I would expect the Doctor to protect me at night and fake claiming Vanilla Town instead of the Cop would have most likely gotten me lynched.

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If Temp really is the Cop, then I think he would have reacted to Phone's post which he actually did.

Would you mind linking his response to someone claiming his role?

I'm still s

Answer my of questions real quick:
who benefits from a fake cop claim?
who benefits from a Counter claim?
Why would you claim Cop over VT D1 if a PR claim helps scum?

Normally I would believe the counter claim. When I first saw Phone's first post, it didn't look like he claimed Cop and it looked like he was joking but now when I start to think about it if Phone is scum, he might have done that claim to get a reaction from a player who could be a Cop and Temp reacted to Phone's post and Temp claimed Cop when he had 4 votes. If I was the real Cop who had 4 votes about to get lynched, I would have also probably claimed Cop and I would expect the Doctor to protect me at night and fake claiming Vanilla Town instead of the Cop would have most likely gotten me lynched.

I think you are wrong here, and if you look at any game in my record where a D1 power roll was put at L1 you will see them constantly claim VT because there is no advantage to claiming cop. if there is a mafia rollcop then hes dead and they will know that, if theres a blocker theres a 50/50 chance hes dead. so basically hes rolling the dice and preying, if he claims VT we continue on our pressure spread and push for inconsistencies as the game is played.

I find it very odd you think him not reacting to the fake claim and making a nonsense claim is good towny behavior.

Temp's reaction to Phone's claim was on #43. Where I come from, a real Cop always claims Cop when they are about to get lynched and most of the time when I see a player claim Vanilla Townie, they end up getting lynched.

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I thought Phone was just joking when he claimed Cop and I didn't believe his claim. Wheme subs in for Phone and if he was the Cop, it would have made more sense if he voted Temp but he voted Cyan instead.

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Here are my reads so far

Town/Temp - Claimed Cop
Leaning Town/Osuka - On day 1 everyone were scum reading Robb except for Spangled and me. If Osuka is scum, Spangled would be the only person I could think of who could be his scum buddy.
Slight Town/Cyrus - His play reminds me of my noob town play. Cyrus says he was going to trust me on my reads and I remember when I was a noob town every time when I town read a player, I would always follow along with them and trust them on their reads. I think Cyrus is town.
Slight Town/Spangled - He town reads Sera who was getting scum read by 3 players and he did not want Sera to get lynched and I find it really weird of a scum player not wanting a certain player to get lynched who has been getting scum read by 3 players or unless scum would be defending its own scum buddy.
Leaning Scum/Wheme - When Phone claimed Cop, it looked like it was a joke but I later started to think he did that so that he could get a reaction from the real Cop, and he's the 4th person to vote Robb with a bad vote reasoning.
Leaning Scum/Sera - Connor was the 3rd person to vote Robb and he votes Robb saying he's up for trying new things and that's not a good reason to scum read someone. Sera subs in for Connor and she made a case on Temp and I remember one of her case on him was because of his flip flopping but I have seen so many town flip flopping before.
Leaning Scum/Red - I didn't understand his vote reason on Robb, I asked if he could explain his vote reason on Robb but he never did, he town reads Phone but I didn't see anything towny from Phone and if Phone really is town, then that looked like Red would be scum who knows Phone is town. Thespio subbed in for Red and he says he thinks Robb and Temp are scum buddies who are fake arguing with each other and that did not look like a scum buddy argument. It looked like Thespio's read on Robb and Temp is done by a scum player.

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Between the players I listed as scum on my read list, I'm leaning more on Wheme more likely to be scum. Sera hasn't been online for 11 days and we know for sure she definitely did not kill Cyan and whoever killed Cyan was more likely online yesterday and day before yesterday.

VOTE: Whemestar

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I do have to agree on eth0s post on #1131 and it's like half of the players have different scum reads and we can't even come to an agreement on who to lynch. Whoever are scum, I start to wonder if they are posting for the sake of posting and plan on having another no lynch.

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I would also like to go on record saying that I'm going to need Whemestar and Adorable to start making more posts with some sort of substance or goal in mind. You two are starting to weird me out the the low effort on wheme and low content on Adorable.

I've voted one of my suspects but I feel as if I'm getting ignored.

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I would also like to go on record saying that I'm going to need Whemestar and Adorable to start making more posts with some sort of substance or goal in mind. You two are starting to weird me out the the low effort on wheme and low content on Adorable.

I've voted one of my suspects but I feel as if I'm getting ignored.

it happens but you can be my little ace in the hole i know your town by the way your reads are and i can sheep a few people and go off thire reads tl reads seem to say the same and if i can narrow down who is own and not i can fine scum easyer.

I have made cases on players who I think are scum and who I think are town and I guess players are ignoring me because they are town reading me and they would rather focus on their scum read.

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connorcompton
Cyan Talon
TemporalLich (SE)
Robbnva (SE)

I think scumteam is between these people and i think temporal is most likeliest mafia here, least likeliest probably alpha m

I think Wheme is scum. I also forgot to mention these are the list of players Red thinks are the scum team and Wheme agreed with Red's list of scum team players and some of the players listed as the scum team doesn't make sense because Robb and Temp have been scum reading each other. Wheme agreeing with Red looked like he is scum.

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What is even Wheme's case on me? So I'm just a random vote? I have been narrowing down the scum team suspects and the only scum team players I could think of at the moment would be

Wheme/Sera
Spangled/Osuka - On day 1 everyone was scum reading Robb except for Spangled, Cyrus, and me. The interaction between Cyrus and Robb doesn't look like a scum buddy and the only person I could think of who could be Robb/Osuka's scum buddy would be Spangled.


On day 1 I was suspicious of Red/Thespio's play and it looked like I saw a Sera/Red scum team and on day 2 I missed the message eth0s subbing in for Thespio. Sera hasn't been online for 11 days and we know for sure she did not do the killing, eth0s subbed in day 2 and he hasn't caught up at the time and he wouldn't even know who to kill if he was scum.

I'm not liking Wheme's play and he says if I flip scum, he will look at Cyrus. I can't be scum buddies with Cyrus because on day 1 I scum read Cyan Talon at the time and Cyrus responded back to me with a defensive post because he thought I was scum reading him and he got his name mixed up with Cyan Talon and then he responded back to me and said he misunderstood me and in another post of his I did not like he said this to me, "Adorable, you do know if Robb flips scum that will make you look bad."

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What is even Wheme's case on me? So I'm just a random vote? I have been narrowing down the scum team suspects and the only scum team players I could think of at the moment would be

Wheme/Sera
Spangled/Osuka - On day 1 everyone was scum reading Robb except for Spangled, Cyrus, and me. The interaction between Cyrus and Robb doesn't look like a scum buddy and the only person I could think of who could be Robb/Osuka's scum buddy would be Spangled.


On day 1 I was suspicious of Red/Thespio's play and it looked like I saw a Sera/Red scum team and on day 2 I missed the message eth0s subbing in for Thespio. Sera hasn't been online for 11 days and we know for sure she did not do the killing, eth0s subbed in day 2 and he hasn't caught up at the time and he wouldn't even know who to kill if he was scum.

I'm not liking Wheme's play and he says if I flip scum, he will look at Cyrus. I can't be scum buddies with Cyrus because on day 1 I scum read Cyan Talon at the time and Cyrus responded back to me with a defensive post because he thought I was scum reading him and he got his name mixed up with Cyan Talon and then he responded back to me and said he misunderstood me and in another post of his I did not like he said this to me, "Adorable, you do know if Robb flips scum that will make you look bad."

I don’t like either of those scumteams you’ve proposed. Besides the fact that my name is up there, I am hard TRing Sera at the moment (which might change with the replacement, but hopefully not), and osuka felt towny initially to me — and I was sure Robb was town.

I also don't like Wheme's scum team he proposed because he thinks it's between you, me, and Cyrus.

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What is even Wheme's case on me? So I'm just a random vote? I have been narrowing down the scum team suspects and the only scum team players I could think of at the moment would be

Wheme/Sera
Spangled/Osuka - On day 1 everyone was scum reading Robb except for Spangled, Cyrus, and me. The interaction between Cyrus and Robb doesn't look like a scum buddy and the only person I could think of who could be Robb/Osuka's scum buddy would be Spangled.


On day 1 I was suspicious of Red/Thespio's play and it looked like I saw a Sera/Red scum team and on day 2 I missed the message eth0s subbing in for Thespio. Sera hasn't been online for 11 days and we know for sure she did not do the killing, eth0s subbed in day 2 and he hasn't caught up at the time and he wouldn't even know who to kill if he was scum.

I'm not liking Wheme's play and he says if I flip scum, he will look at Cyrus. I can't be scum buddies with Cyrus because on day 1 I scum read Cyan Talon at the time and Cyrus responded back to me with a defensive post because he thought I was scum reading him and he got his name mixed up with Cyan Talon and then he responded back to me and said he misunderstood me and in another post of his I did not like he said this to me, "Adorable, you do know if Robb flips scum that will make you look bad."

why do you think i could only be scum with spangled?

why do you think sera and red would be together in a scum team?

On day 1 most of the players were scum reading you and they voted you. I didn't think scum would join a bandwagon on their scum buddy on day 1. Spangled, Cyrus, and I were the only ones who did not scum read/vote you. The interaction between Robb and Cyrus did not look like a scum team which leaves Spangled left.

On day 1 I scum read Red and Sera. I noticed they did not interact with each other and they mainly distanced each other on day 1.

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Wheme said he did not read my post when I voted him and how could he miss that? A scum can also pretend saying they missed a post.

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The same thing can be said about Wheme.

#788 Town reads Spangled, Osuka, Temp, me
#802 Says if he's wrong about Cyan on day 1 he will look at Cyrus on day 2
#1191 Responds to Cyrus post and says he doesn't see scum making this post
#1197 Says if I flip scum he will look at Spangled or Cyrus
#1247 Says Spangled is town
#1316 Says he thinks Cyrus is town

I don't understand what Wheme is doing here and he is also voting without even providing a reason which is very frowned upon.

[Adorable]

I'm sorry everyone. I forgot to mention I'm on vacation and I have limited access. I might have to get replaced later. I'm checking to see where I left off.

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I'm still going to leave my vote on Wheme and he's not providing any reason to his votes. I have been scum hunting since day 1-day 2 and providing my thoughts. I get the feeling scum will try to redirect the lynch to me. Either that or they are focusing on Cyrus who looks like an easy lynch target for scum and I can't think of anyone here who could be his scum buddy or unless scum are bussing him if he really is scum.

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I'm still going to leave my vote on Wheme and he's not providing any reason to his votes. I have been scum hunting since day 1-day 2 and providing my thoughts. I get the feeling scum will try to redirect the lynch to me. Either that or they are focusing on Cyrus who looks like an easy lynch target for scum and I can't think of anyone here who could be his scum buddy or unless scum are bussing him if he really is scum.

on second thought: let's assume cyrus is scum. you say you can't think who his scumbuddy would be unless they he is being bussed.

in this case, who's bussing him?

pedit: at this point absolutely not. i'm not lynching wheme unless it comes down to the wire

If Cyrus really is scum who is being bussed, I would suspect either Wheme or Eth0s. On day 1 Wheme said he would focus on Cyrus on day 2 but instead he focus on me and why not Cyrus? Cyrus says he thinks Wheme is town and then Wheme says he thinks Cyrus is town and they refused to vote each other and then afterwards Cyrus decided to vote Wheme.

On day 2 Eth0s scum read Cyrus and it looked like he was feeling really confident Cyrus is scum.

Those are the two players I could think of who could be Cyrus scum buddy if Cyrus really is scum.

I'm not used to seeing scum bussing each other on day 1 or day 2 and I don't know how common bussing is done in mafiascum.

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I don't want to play anymore since I'm getting scum read for no reason and I'm on vacation. I'll might as well copy paste my role pm and get myself modkilled and everyone will see my town flip.

[Adorable]

I'm coming back in 3 days from my vacation and I can't be active till I come back. Wheme is tunneling too much on me without providing any reason.

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I don't want to play anymore since I'm getting scum read for no reason and I'm on vacation. I'll might as well copy paste my role pm and get myself modkilled and everyone will see my town flip.

please dont kill your self just vote me then relax k when i flip town your know who is scum by the ones who pushd for it

I still don't trust Wheme. If you do end up getting lynched and flip town, I'll also look at the players who pushed for your lynch since I'm guessing you are an easy mislynch for scum.

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VOTE: cyrus62

If cyrus flips town, don't blame me, blame the majority who did this and I don't want to come back till my vacation is over.

This is the 5th vote on Cyrus.

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Last remaining scum is either Osuka or Wheme.

On day 1 when Robb had 4 votes, I did not like it when Cyrus said this to me. "Adorable, you do know if Robb flips scum that will make you look bad." That also looked like if Robb/Osuka did flip scum, Cyrus would make me look bad and he town reads Robb/Osuka on day 1. Day 2 comes and then he conveniently scum reads Osuka and votes him and why did Cyrus not vote him on day 1? I also start to wonder if he voted Osuka for town cred. On day 2 Osuka said he would look at Spangled or Temp if Cyrus flips mafia and they are still alive. I also did not like it when Osuka said my reads looked fabricated and that looked like scum throwing shade on me.

On day 1 Phone claimed Cop and it looked like he wanted to get a reaction from the real Cop. On day 1 Wheme said he would look at Cyrus if Cyan is town but on day 2 he goes after me instead of Cyrus and his tunneling was scummy and he kept saying I am scum without providing any reasoning. Cyrus said he thinks Wheme is town and he didn't want to vote Wheme earlier and then later on in day 2 he voted Wheme. Wheme also said Temp agreed with my case on Wheme and Temp did not agree with me, it was Cyrus case Temp agreed with and he was one of the players who did not vote Cyrus when he got lynched.

If you guys are feeling really confident Osuka will flip mafia, I guess we could vote him and see.

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Come to think of it eth0s's ISO looks miles better than osuka's, I'm not sure how the hell I got the two confused once

Yeah I am willing to vote osuka if necessary, that ISO was like 10 times worse than I thought

Pedit: Yeah that Emp NK is Spicy indeed... but the only NK in this setup is from scum so...

Yeah but the point is that there must have been an ulterior motive; you don’t kill someone who is mislynchable and is null-to-townread by everyone without an ulterior motive.

Whoever killed Emperor/Sera must have town read this slot and notice on day 1 Sera wanted to lynch Cyrus.

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Last remaining scum is either Osuka or Wheme.

On day 1 when Robb had 4 votes, I did not like it when Cyrus said this to me. "Adorable, you do know if Robb flips scum that will make you look bad." That also looked like if Robb/Osuka did flip scum, Cyrus would make me look bad and he town reads Robb/Osuka on day 1. Day 2 comes and then he conveniently scum reads Osuka and votes him and why did Cyrus not vote him on day 1? I also start to wonder if he voted Osuka for town cred. On day 2 Osuka said he would look at Spangled or Temp if Cyrus flips mafia and they are still alive. I also did not like it when Osuka said my reads looked fabricated and that looked like scum throwing shade on me.

On day 1 Phone claimed Cop and it looked like he wanted to get a reaction from the real Cop. On day 1 Wheme said he would look at Cyrus if Cyan is town but on day 2 he goes after me instead of Cyrus and his tunneling was scummy and he kept saying I am scum without providing any reasoning. Cyrus said he thinks Wheme is town and he didn't want to vote Wheme earlier and then later on in day 2 he voted Wheme. Wheme also said Temp agreed with my case on Wheme and Temp did not agree with me, it was Cyrus case Temp agreed with and he was one of the players who did not vote Cyrus when he got lynched.

If you guys are feeling really confident Osuka will flip mafia, I guess we could vote him and see.

I still think Osuka could be scum for reason I stated above. He has 3 votes now and one more vote and he gets lynched. Should I hammer again or should I wait?

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That was not a hammer. eth0s, Spangled, and Wheme are the only players who voted Osuka.

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I start to wonder how often SE's are scum. Maybe from now on I should look at the SE's and I'm sure an SE scum will also give tips to it's noob scum partner.

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Granted Adorable's hammer made me kinda puke.

Majority wanted to lynch Cyrus and we didn't have enough time to switch the votes to someone else. That hammer I made on Cyrus saved me because if someone else hammered him, I would have been the next lynch target on day 3 since the players were accusing me of being Cyrus associate. Cyrus flipping mafia after my hammer was a relief on my part.