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I like this post very much. King is the playmaker for D3-4 and is probably the most powerfull tool in the box and I think it's scummy to be expressing interest this early.In post 28, momo wrote:
Asking for King and Neighbor right after I'm pressuring Oversoul on this makes me thing ur a scumbuddy, especially if scum have daychat. Seriously strange that you request the roles I called sus earlier without even acknowledging that post.In post 21, Hidden Happiness wrote:Ohayo gozaimasu everyone! Orihime head here! I hope we have lots of fun together!
On first glance I think the roles I want most are: King or Uni back up. Neighbor seems fun but it depends on the neighbor!
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Ur agreeing with me!!??!!
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King is the role that scum would want to manoeuver into position for, there's not many other roles they have a lot of control with.Rawr!
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I think the best way to distribute the compulsive quitter is majority voteIn post 62, Saudade wrote:Yes but you dont lynch people this gamsRawr!
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Exactly this, and even more so for a select few roles like King that get to decide powers and the LYNCH (compulsive quitter) for a dayIn post 71, Saudade wrote:I was in the shower right now and realized the first thought I had when entering this game is how and which PRs I want to distribute in the town rather than which PR I want to take for myself therefore I scumread anyone asking for a specific role for himself and townread everyone who suggested a PR onto someone elseRawr!
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scum are more likely then town to try and manoeuver themselves into pole positions for certain roles, i think.In post 76, Vecna wrote:
Even though I like this post, scum will also be thinking along the lines of who they want to assign what role to, to optimize their odds of high impact lynches and nks.In post 71, Saudade wrote:I was in the shower right now and realized the first thought I had when entering this game is how and which PRs I want to distribute in the town rather than which PR I want to take for myself therefore I scumread anyone asking for a specific role for himself and townread everyone who suggested a PR onto someone else
Having control of allocation of these roles are critical for scum, because town are likely to get at least some good shit out of it. Scum not so muchRawr!
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For what I've seen he's usually far more agressive as townIn post 150, Oversoul wrote:Does anyone have any history with Saudade? Does he play contradictory like that?
In no world is momo the D1 lynch.In post 230, Sothis Stefon Styx wrote:Ok the answer is scum, not bad town. That helps me feel less bad about it at least.
@everyone you can take whatever precautions you want about my scum game, ic, whatever, but we're lynching Momo today.
Why do you always make a scumread on you personal?In post 252, Sothis Stefon Styx wrote:it's personal. unless you're scum. then it's not. but even then it's still kinda personal to me, ngl.
Why would you care for being a hated townie? That doesn't mean you get lynched for it. The soft defence for RC here is bad. I'd lynch RC today, and if this flips scum you are next. Though I know i'm not Original in saying this… just my thoughts as wellIn post 335, Hidden Happiness wrote:VOTE: Against
Uh I am not in favor of basically being a hated townie in this setup. (I don't think Maria would mind actually but she's too busy packing to stop me. )
I also can't remember any time two people screaming at each other to death was actually alignment indicative of anything but two townies being stubborn as fuck. I wouldn't support a lynch on that slot at all. I see the hydra replaced out but unless RC has literally replaced out as scum about to be lynched before I'd sooner think he realized he shouldn't be playing.Rawr!
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I'd not give neighbour to Nero, he's been very inactive this game. Adding an active role to him is not right.In post 333, momo wrote:I think it's time we have an official proposal. I think this one is as good as any and I'll be voting for it. Even if it doesn't pass, we need the discussion.
Official Proposal
Timid = Hidden Happiness (Shadoweh/MariaR hydra)
Vanilla = Iconeum
Inventor = popsofctown
Day 5 Innocent Child = Oversoul
Miller = apthet
Neighbour = Nero Cain
1-shot Gladiator = momo
Day 3 King = Vecna
Night 1 Universal Backup = CheekyTeeky
Neighbour = Almost50
Odd-Night Motion Detector = Gamma Emerald
Macho = Lil Uzi Vert
Inactive = Saudade
Compulsive Quitter = Titus
I'd not give Gladiator to momo, I think King goes to momo. Gladiator I would have given to Saudude
Fine with just about everything else, but I really dislike the Nero neighbour distribution.Rawr!
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You were right that saying you were inactive this game is a thing. The distribution of the roles is fine for me, I have no reason to not accept that proposal.Rawr!
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This is a poor way to draw attention. A player of your calliber is perfectly capable of getting attention. Throwing away your proposal like that seems fishy.In post 810, Hidden Happiness wrote:
I think the way ice has played the game has been fine compared to other players. I know a fact no one would ever say yes to my proposal but I felt if I threw it out there it'd draw some attention to my slot so people would stop ignoring meIn post 807, Oversoul wrote:I do not feel like he has done any real scumhunting this game. He called you out for wanting King, among other roles, and then when momo did it he looked the other way. I feel like he is purposefully trying to keep a low profile in a game with a lot of head strong players.
Also, your proposal is so far out of left field I don't even know what to do with it. For the record, I would never use my gladiator ability (unless I had a guilty).
I voted yes on one (1) proposal this game. One. I've been playing this game, and was VLA for the weekend. How is that lowkeying?In post 851, popsofctown wrote:I mean maybe a50 said that
but did i remember it?
no i did not
if iconeum is gonna lowkey scumside and vote yes every single proposal and maybe like 2-3 other people do that i wanted to jam a proposal rather than take a moment to research my choices better because now there's strategic edge to proposing at that pointRawr!
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Why kill town?In post 885, Titus wrote:
Can we please kill A50 momo or sausageIn post 883, Vecna wrote:
You were literally asking me to propose it that way. I took your proposal and improved a few parts.In post 748, momo wrote:
i get that, hell my second proposal gave him the roleIn post 747, Almost50 wrote:
He's townIn post 745, momo wrote:are you really fine with vecna giving himself miller?
that doens't mean it's a good look
and since he is town, he should be getting inventor...
Ive not been pushing for anything myself. fact remains, pretty much everyone correctly townreads me and I can handle the shade.
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This is implying that I purposefully went VLA to lowkey this game...In post 903, popsofctown wrote:
The V/LA is what makes me upset about the For vote. Because any reasonable timetable for that proposal passing has you performing no further dayplay and coming back on Monday to perform night actions. Town!Iconeum wants a larger part in D1 than that.In post 890, Iconeum wrote:
This is a poor way to draw attention. A player of your calliber is perfectly capable of getting attention. Throwing away your proposal like that seems fishy.In post 810, Hidden Happiness wrote:
I think the way ice has played the game has been fine compared to other players. I know a fact no one would ever say yes to my proposal but I felt if I threw it out there it'd draw some attention to my slot so people would stop ignoring meIn post 807, Oversoul wrote:I do not feel like he has done any real scumhunting this game. He called you out for wanting King, among other roles, and then when momo did it he looked the other way. I feel like he is purposefully trying to keep a low profile in a game with a lot of head strong players.
Also, your proposal is so far out of left field I don't even know what to do with it. For the record, I would never use my gladiator ability (unless I had a guilty).
I voted yes on one (1) proposal this game. One. I've been playing this game, and was VLA for the weekend. How is that lowkeying?In post 851, popsofctown wrote:I mean maybe a50 said that
but did i remember it?
no i did not
if iconeum is gonna lowkey scumside and vote yes every single proposal and maybe like 2-3 other people do that i wanted to jam a proposal rather than take a moment to research my choices better because now there's strategic edge to proposing at that point
If you, for whatever RL reasons, were active on MS.net during the process of the proposal passing I'd be less pissed that you voted For. You're either scum or were willing to put very little effort into Day 1.
Or that I should vote against a proposal that I support just to not 'possibly' end the day
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ur not townreading momo?
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This sounds like dodging. Being backup is likely to give you a powerfull role, depending on scum strategy which means a likely early exit as well.In post 912, Nero Cain wrote:
What does the bolded mean? I mean, giving me IC just gets me shot n4. Do you think that scum want to deal with conf town Nero? no, they don't. I'm not really sure what would be best to give me b/c I'm not very good at long term strategy. I kinda liked the idea of being the backup and having one of the useful prs but eh...In post 898, Vecna wrote:In post 785, Nero Cain wrote:I don't really like the idea of giving scummy players a miller role b/c assuming we get a cop @ some point they can just use but "im a miller" as an excuse for why they invested as red. Miller should go to someone that's town and a that's being heavily town read by the majority.
And for that reason, I'm out.
VOTE: againstThat is exactly what I am darling.So what do you think about yourself in the IC role, becayse thats the change id expect you to comment on.
The miller allocation has been there for a while.
If it's your goal to live past N4, why not go for some of the lesser roles?Rawr!
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I'm having a hard time being active in this game because of the mechanics talk. I'm not very good at it, and I tend to start sheeping if I can't keep up with the discussion.In post 974, Oversoul wrote:I feel like we are spending an inordinate amount of time discussing role distribution and kind of just accepting Titus's death which is making me paranoid. I think the most important roles to actually distribute is the miller for obvious reasons and potentially Day 3 King, but to a lesser extent. I think we need to refocus because there seems to be some consternation about Titus and Not-Titus.Rawr!
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HH pinged me in their opening post directly soft-pushing towards King/inventor power.
Not being open about your reads, and letting others come in with theirs to piggy back isn't town-motivatedIn post 78, Hidden Happiness wrote:Riruka-san was telling me that people were reading my first post as scummy. Well, I think the way I want to go about this at least for myself is give me a role that I find fun with and then give the stronger powers to lynchbait/people on the weaker side. I think giving townreads not as strong powers at least early would make nightkills extremely telling if someone killed say a macho/inactive towny over someone with the inventor etc. I think it's a good way to force information out.
For example, I know for a fact we'll probably not get King as I want, but we should probably give it to once again, a lynchbait player and see if we can agree on someone for them to king the day before or after and see if mafia let them live or not.
Okay can I never talk about mech again thanks. I'll get super bored fast. In terms of reads...
VOTE: Vecna
10 points if anyone else sees what I see.
~Orihime
Defending RC is unnecesary there, and pings me. Being that scared to get Inactive is also meh.In post 222, Hidden Happiness wrote:There is a lot of weird role talk/alignment talk being based around RC when he's barely here. The argument to neuter him so scum don't kill him is fair but neutering him so he doesn't roll the game is ridiculous.
Idk about Maria but I joined this because the mechanics looked neat, if you give me Inactive I'll be upset
I did nothing to deserve a power like Inventor. A50 should never be the lynch here. Why let HH live for so long? Titus just vanilla?In post 806, Hidden Happiness wrote:1-shot Gladiator: Oversoul
Inactive: Gamma Emerald (following partner on this one)
Day 5 Innocent Child: Hidden Happiness (grumble)
Inventor: Iconeum
Day 3 King: popsofctown
Macho: Nero Cain
Miller: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Luv (But we leash him to where we want him)
Vecna:Neighbor
Saudade: Neighbor
apthet: Timid
CheekyTeeky:Night 1 Universal Backup
Titus:Vanilla
Compulsive Quitter: Almost50
There's all kinds of wrong here.Rawr!
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I retract my scumread on pops after rereading. I thought I remembered similar interactions like HH, but I was mistaken.
Wouldn't mind if HH takes the lynch, and let Titus have something like Inactive.
I'd take vanilla/timid/gladiator or any of the lesser utility roles myself and let the more important ones go to the list as Soul gave above, with the exception of HH.Rawr!
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I seriously dislike this post. Ur using wifom to justify giving yourself one of the most powerfull roles in the game, while making it look like a town thing to do by adding in Nero.In post 1115, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Against
Aside from not wanting to lynch Cheeky; giving me Gladiator and Nero the Backup = NKing me and giving Nero a worthless role (one he can't use w.o. the other players' consent). I'd be OK if you gave me King, Motion Detector or Inventor for Nero to inherit that.
Now ur attempting to divert giving a useless role to scum, while implying you want to give macho to a town?In post 1114, Almost50 wrote:
Why? Unless we have a Vigilante om D2/D3; Macho on scum is worthless.In post 1113, Gamma Emerald wrote:Macho should probably go to scum imo
In the exchange HH is definitely more town then I previously read the slot. Would approve a lynch of A50. i'ma let you guys decide on the other roles and sheep them until I find my groove in this game, until then I'm comfortable having vanilla myself.In post 1157, Vecna wrote:after this exchange id vote for the same proposal with these changes:
HH as the actual UB
A50 as lynch
Cheeky as timid
Nero as whatever remains with everyone keeping the same.Rawr!
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If this is your problem with the proposal, why did you vote against it? It seems like a minor issueIn post 1229, Nero Cain wrote:apparently, I didn't miss out of much. I'd switch Vecna and Piss though.
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In post 1208, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Don't joke about this shitIn post 1164, popsofctown wrote:Whenever you cast a spell that targets only a Titus planeswalker, change that spell's target to another nonTitus permanent it could target at random. Then each other planeswalker loses all loyalty abilities until end of turn. Draw a card.
I still have memories of that Varsoon gameIn post 1211, Gamma Emerald wrote:It was a game where the flavor changed every day phase, it got canceled due to everyone not caring anymore but while it ran it was a mess of egos and crazy roles
Varsoon's Variety Hour, the name was discovered after having to solve a fucking puzzle
It got cancelled because Varsoon put the game on hold for months IIRC
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Meh. I agreed on something I consider scummy.In post 1240, pisskop wrote:
In a vacuum, such as the one I am in, this looks arbitrary and pocketyIn post 57, Iconeum wrote:I like this post very much. King is the playmaker for D3-4 and is probably the most powerfull tool in the box and I think it's scummy to be expressing interest this early.Rawr!
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Catch up wall in the spoiler
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My scumpool is A50/CT/Nero
Townpool of Vecna/pisskop/pops/momo
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disagree over vecna. He's pretty high up thereIn post 1564, Hidden Happiness wrote:Who do you think the three most townread and active people are? pops pisskop and who? I'd argue Momo but a few people disagree. There's as much argument over whose actually a townread as there is over specific roles. I don't know anything about your record mate but from where I'm standing you're definitely on the lower end of the pool.
I think more people would go to war over where to put Titus if we put you and pops into neighbour slots then is worth changing it over.
why do you have uzi for UB? is he that high of a townread?Rawr!
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His early D1 sorting felt forced. Started lurking until he was being put up the chopping block. Wants to take any role just to survive.In post 1570, Gamma Emerald wrote:Talk about your CT scumread.
There's not 1 thing that really sticks out, it's a general feeling (forced).Rawr!
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Any specific reason you feel this way? Is it because you aren't being townread that you wanna change character (which should be forbidden anyway if you ask me) and now wanna hide behind a different mask?In post 1577, Almost50 wrote:@Mod: Replace me with AP (my alt) id you will.This game can't be taken seriously at this point.Rawr!
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nothing's stopping you from making that post now? convince me otherwise?In post 1637, Nero Cain wrote:every's town reading Vecna despite him being scummy as fuck although I guess part of that is my fault b/cI've been too lazy to write my angry rant against him. So I wouldn't mind getting a d5 guilty on him.Rawr!
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sure buddyIn post 1642, Nero Cain wrote:
What part of lazy do you not understand? Also, you are his scum buddy so it's not like I need to convince you of something that you already know.In post 1639, Iconeum wrote:nothing's stopping you from making that post now? convince me otherwise?Rawr!
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Make a proposal that I can sheep?In post 1650, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Could someone give me some homework or something to do. I still want to lynch within Cheeky/HH/Titus.Rawr!
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Why bother complain that people aren't following your read when in the same breath you say you don't wanna put up the effort to case? What's even the point?In post 1656, Nero Cain wrote:I am rarely sheeped. It's not like I'm saying that I won't case you b/c I don't think I'd get sheeped but thanks for trying to frame something in a neg light b/c you are proving my case 4 me.Rawr!
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The difference is that proposals are slowly running out, and I want to have mine be usefull. I'm also prettttty bad when it comes to mechanics despite really trying to get my head around them this game. I don't get much further then giving towny roles to my town reads and negative roles to the scummy reads…In post 1662, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I thought I had one and then it got voted downIn post 1653, Iconeum wrote:
Make a proposal that I can sheep?In post 1650, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Could someone give me some homework or something to do. I still want to lynch within Cheeky/HH/Titus.
The main problem that I’m finding with every proposal is gladiator, neighbor, and who gets backup. Each proposal has gotten shot down one way or the other for a majority of people due to not liking who will be receiving those roles.
So make me a proposal, we discuss it, and then nobody has to worry about me being one of the last players still having one.
And if I don't 'obey' our agreed proposal, you can still lynch me on the next day. Seems like a nice safety lineRawr!
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From first thoughts i'd:
Switch CT with A50 (I scumread A50. CT to a lesser extent, and I think gladiator is the perfect tool for forcing this slot to become more active).
Switch Nero with HH
Other then that I think it's acceptableRawr!
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I'm down for a proposal, but there hasn't been a whole lot of discussion about what I would change in it and the very least I would change CT with A50. Nero and HH positions are less important then the actual lynchIn post 1724, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:In post 1669, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
1-shot Gladiator: Almost50In post 1665, Iconeum wrote:
The difference is that proposals are slowly running out, and I want to have mine be usefull. I'm also prettttty bad when it comes to mechanics despite really trying to get my head around them this game. I don't get much further then giving towny roles to my town reads and negative roles to the scummy reads…In post 1662, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I thought I had one and then it got voted downIn post 1653, Iconeum wrote:
Make a proposal that I can sheep?In post 1650, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Could someone give me some homework or something to do. I still want to lynch within Cheeky/HH/Titus.
The main problem that I’m finding with every proposal is gladiator, neighbor, and who gets backup. Each proposal has gotten shot down one way or the other for a majority of people due to not liking who will be receiving those roles.
So make me a proposal, we discuss it, and then nobody has to worry about me being one of the last players still having one.
And if I don't 'obey' our agreed proposal, you can still lynch me on the next day. Seems like a nice safety line
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Day 5 Innocent Child: Nero Cain
Inventor: apthet
Day 3 King: Oversoul
Macho: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Gamma Emerald
Neighbor: popsofctown
Neighbor: Vecna
Timid: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup: pisskop
Vanilla: Iconeum
Compulsive Quitter: CheekyTeeky
Quoting in case the majority wants Ico to propose.In post 1672, Iconeum wrote:From first thoughts i'd:
Switch CT with A50 (I scumread A50. CT to a lesser extent, and I think gladiator is the perfect tool for forcing this slot to become more active).
Switch Nero with HH
Other then that I think it's acceptableRawr!
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I'd put this up after switching A50 and CTIn post 1741, Vecna wrote:this one:
1-shot Gladiator: Almost50
Inactive: Titus
Day 5 Innocent Child: Nero Cain
Inventor: apthet
Day 3 King: Oversoul
Macho: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Gamma Emerald
Neighbor: popsofctown
Neighbor: Vecna
Timid: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup: pisskop
Vanilla: Iconeum
Compulsive Quitter: CheekyTeeky
where the lynch can be swapped around with the usual suspectsRawr!
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Official Proposal
1-shot Gladiator: Cheeky
Inactive: Titus
Day 5 Innocent Child: Nero Cain
Inventor: apthet
Day 3 King: Oversoul
Macho: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller: momo
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Gamma Emerald
Neighbor: popsofctown
Neighbor: Vecna
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Night 1 Universal Backup: pisskop
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Bad. I'm feeling even worse that AP single-handedly derailed my proposal, and has now reversed the lynch onto me. Players who were voting FOR my proposal are now voting FOR lynching me, and it's not even because of a scumread but because they are just tired of this day.In post 2088, Vecna wrote:I dno, this situation is odd. Either im really wrong about, or A50 is completely wrong on a lot of things.
How do you guys feel about a proposal with the current role assignment but putting icon or HH on the chopping block?
Feels bad man
Who are you? And in what world is letting pisskop have the UB a good decision? If my death stops the A50/AP townreads, I'd happily give my life for it. But at least get your other role distribution in order ffsIn post 2099, Jingle wrote:1-shot Gladiator: CheekyTeeky
Inactive: momo
Day 5 Innocent Child: Nero Cain
Inventor: apthet
Day 3 King: Jingle
Macho: Lil Uzi Vert
Miller: Creature
Odd-Night Motion Detector: Gamma Emerald
Neighbour: popsofctown
Neighbour: Vecna
Timid: Hidden Happiness
Night 1 Universal Backup: pisskop
Vanilla: AP
Compulsive Quitter: Iconeum
I am strongly considering hammering the against and proposing this if I don't like Ico's entry to the thread tomorrow, btw.
Case and point about earlier statementIn post 2146, Hidden Happiness wrote:VOTE: Against
Please just make something happen faster. Maria literally joined and ended a game before we finished our first day because this is going so slow.Rawr!
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what exactly do you mean? the failed props?In post 2192, popsofctown wrote:Iconeum how do you sort the failed lynches?Rawr!
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hey if you want to lynch me, go for it
i strongly believe AP is playing the lot of you, and i would have taken pisskop be the UB if that means getting the AP lynch
I don't wanna go down AND have pisskop get UBRawr!
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I strongly believe AP is the better lynch over Cheeky. I thought that was obvious? This game needs a flip for many reasons, and my proposal was actually pretty decent. I think it was the first one that got to being 1 vote away of approval. AP went into berserk mode and stopped it.In post 2197, Bingle wrote:Wat?Can you tell me why you changed the lynch choice you shopped out from Cheeky to AP when you were SR'ing both of them and the person you trusted enough to shop out the list to was SR-ing one of them?
Can you wax poetic about your reads as you whisper sweet nothings into my ear holes?
Can you convince me not to want you dead?
It would probably be interesting to lynch me, and then on D2 go back and see who flipped their vote from a proposal that I made and supported it, to a proposal that lynches me and supports that, too.
I've been pretty useless so far this game, and if my lynch can achieve something usefull, I'm not gonna argue stopping that. I don't usually really get to be really influential until later game, anyways.Rawr!
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Feels to me like you already made up your mind a while ago
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I strongly disagree with Dingle's reads, especially puttin AP so high and Vecna so low
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it's the kind of mix-ups i makeIn post 2210, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wait why do you object to pisskop as N1 UB if you townread him?as townRawr!
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no not at all. at the time of me making that post i had it different in my head. when i started reading back i knew it was a mistakeIn post 2214, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Then do you still oppose PK as UB?In post 2211, Iconeum wrote:
it's the kind of mix-ups i makeIn post 2210, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wait why do you object to pisskop as N1 UB if you townread him?as townRawr!
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It's a good proposal if people are actually scumreading me. It will help them revisit their reads on D2.
I don't want to be lynched, and I will flip town so it's not a good lynch so I will vote against.
But in general, it's a good proposal.Rawr!
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