Role Call I (Game Over)

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

Sorry, I'm just marvelling at the awful nightkill architecture for this game.
There's no reason to do anything besides kill the strongest town player, essentially, because if you kill off a PR the universal backup gets it anyway and there's guaranteed to be no protectives.

My head at least is just going to 0 post for D1 in the hopes that it disincentivizes nightkilling us. GL guys.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

I think Vecnas referring to Civilization Mafia.

When I replaced into a scum slot the first and third wagon were on scum.

Scum never got wagoned again from the moment I replaced in.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

This is a low effort game from me because it's a hydra game and also because I'm fairly sure I die night one no matter what happens. I dunno.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

Idk why Baezu isn't here.

I think Momo is scum trying to use our presence in the game to his advantage.
I also think that giving us the Day 5 IC removes any even slight motivation for scum to not kill us immediately.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

I'm willing to take the Day 5 IC and not get to play multiple day phases of the game if Momo is lynched today with us and MariaR hydra takes the universal backup.

How does that sound?

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

The idea that I would tell my hydra partners not to post is fucking absurd.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

Sorry everything Momo has posted towards us is actually disgusting. Let's just go with the order suggested in 217 and you all can figure everything else out.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

The only situation in which Momo is town is one where he decided before this game that he was going to policy push on my slot because I was present in it.
I can say with 100% certainty that Momo does not believe what he is saying, similarly to scum!Wgeurts in the recently finished micro where I said the following regarding it:

Btw regarding Wgeurts if he's scum it's not my fault for unvoting him it's the fault of every single townie who has done similarly pro scum things out of paranoia of me and created an environment where scum can get away with doing that.

Given that I don't have to try to play to winrate over an enjoyable game experience, I'm not willing to play with that under the off chance that it's town doing it.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

Given that the possibility of our slot being scum has been the single largest discussion of the game so far and I don't want to play an entire game of that, I'd rather not try to create incentives for scum not to remove us from the game so let's just give us the IC, kill Momo for having a terrible scumread on me, and make MariaR hydra the universal backup because I scumread the shit out of both heads and would like to find a resolution to that issue that doesn't involve having to push a lynch on them.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

Sorry if I've excessively framed Momo as a policy lynch; its not. If he was treating any other slot like he is treating ours I would treat him as confirmed scum.
While it has happened on occasion that town have behaved this way towards my slots, even if significantly less frequently than scum doing it, I think that the high odds of a scum flip + the benefits of discouraging that play by policy lynching it by far outweigh not lynching him on the off chance that he's not scum. It's just a good lynch in general, discouraging play I don't like is icing on the cake.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

You don't believe the things that you're pushing me for. You're either making stuff up because you want something that sounds better to push me for, or you're scum.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

you are scum, you act angry, say something is stupid or disgusting, and expect your idea to go through. That's what you're doing now.

What stupid and disgusting thing am I supposedly saying? I'm being rather tame. I've reacted to these situations far worse in the past. I'm just over it.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

Ok the answer is scum, not bad town. That helps me feel less bad about it at least.

@everyone you can take whatever precautions you want about my scum game, ic, whatever, but we're lynching Momo today.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

People have NKed me over known cops before, and won the game because they made that decision.

I actually want the D5 role but I'd prefer you just give it to us as opposed to banking on someone dying for no reason.

I mean I don't care. I literally don't care. I want Momo dead, I'm just offering whatever safeties everyone else wants against me being scum.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

hahahahahhahaha

fuck you momo

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

see

you act all innocent like 'hey i have this real scumread'

then there it is

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

i think 236 essentially confirms that they're scum in the game or scum outside of it. that's the lynch today. again, idc where anything else goes as long as the inventor goes to town.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

it's personal. unless you're scum. then it's not. but even then it's still kinda personal to me, ngl.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

you're not pushing on me honestly. that's obvious. there's really no point in discussion when you're either scum or not really playing mafia.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

gladiator is a 0 +townequity role

inventor gets punted to the universal backup anyway

there's literally

no reason

not to kill the strongest townie on night one.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

he's scum though.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

Shadoweh posting isn't actually bad. i dunno. she might be town.
i kinda just assumed MariaR was scum because she was actually trying to get townread, maybe that was a hasty generalization.

oh shit you just made me realize something

so because of a combination of being banned and before that a voluntary leave from mafia for an extended period of time, most of my games with RC come from my early days on site

back then i was super mislynchable (see my signuature) and could get pushed by scum for an easy lynch D1/D2 ... doesn't really happen anymore but...

I have never been the sort of player to push easy mislynches as scum. scum have with incredible frequency been trying to discredit my slot in recent games because it's easier than fooling me.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

i don't think momo is arrogant enough, as town, to talk to me the way that he is regardless of what his read on me is. he already indicated a level of respect.
no one who talks to me like he did in the post about respecting in my play should be saying stupid things like he is about his surety about me being scum.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

As scum you don't have to believe the stuff that you're saying. As town, you do.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

'whee i respect you enough to call it out specifically but i also believe I caught you on page 2 of a game!!!'

no.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

A50 why aren't you commenting on something more useful?

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

because you talk about and justify your read on me like someone who feels caught for the wrong reasons, like you don't believe it but you believe the 'logic' is sound.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

after all, if you think that I'm scum, why are you trying to convince me that your case on me holds water?

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

you don't make it to tomorrow to gladiator me

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

also, wtf? 'gladiator me'? you can't possibly believe if you're town here that you would just gladiate me and win versus scum me, with my scumteam's support. literally never.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

you don't make it to tomorrow to gladiator me

Are you saying you'll NK me?

Cause I'm def not about to get D1 lynched

let's find out about that

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

do you believe that town!Momo thinks that town!him is going to put me under

so much pressure

that I'm just obviously scum and scum are going to have to bus

or do you think that scum!Momo is just preemptively coming up with excuses for why all the scummy slots are going to end up voting me?

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

Does anyone actually believe any of this is an actual thought process?

1) I know RC is an amazing scum player
2) I caught Scum!RC on page 2
3) I'm going to convince Scum!RC my read on him is real
4) I'm going to gladiate RC tomorrow and get townread for it
5) I'm so strong that RC's buddies are going to have to bus him

guys momo is scum.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

I THINK RC IS SCUM I'M JUST GONNA NOT TRY TO PUSH A LYNCH ON HIM BECAUSE THAT'S CLEARLY THE CORRECT WAY TO DEAL WITH IT HMM

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

almost50

you 'still' have not addressed my read on Momo, why?

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

Would you rather he gives you the silent treat (I'm not positive, but I think you don't like to play with Wisdom)

he should be trying to convince other people that I'm scum, not me.
he's trying to back away from this engagement now that I've started hitting back. he still wants to call me scum but he doesn't actually want the 1v1.

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

almost50

you 'still' have not addressed my read on Momo, why?

I have, and long before this silly feud started.

momo is the towniest slot in the game

. He was when I said it and he still is.

What I'm trying to decide is YOUR alignment, because deciding that could be the difference between us winning or losing the game (as either alignment. If you're town and I SR you we lose. If you're scum and I TR you we lose. If you're scum and I SR you we may have a chance. If you're town and I TR you our chance is bigger).

So I think I'm not passing any official proposals until I've decided on your slot.

aight ok

[Sothis Stefon Styx]

momo's scum btw