Starry Night [Game Over]

[Shiro]

*Dramatic sigh* it is so lovely to once again be invited to such a dance. Hello friends

[Shiro]

Bitmap seems town to me really.

I want to see Shiro post more

because I enjoy reading her posts

so I can sort her more

Oh but I have only just arrived in this fine establisment, I still need to find a palce to seat and marvel at the beautyfull night sky.

[Shiro]

We were all shy at our first dances darlings

[Shiro]

I am here to dance with lady shiro.

and nothing else.

My knight in shining armour has finally arrived. Pray tell what kind of dragon slaying delayed your arrival?

[Shiro]

i was asleep shiro, how are you doing?

That.... Is, strikingly not as amazing as my dragon slaying visions were. Regardles, I was reading everything up to now and I can say that I townread everyone halp D:

[Shiro]

What was the condition, I might have missed it since I skimmed some stuff I am at work.

[Shiro]

What was the condition, I might have missed it since I skimmed some stuff I am at work.

I believe he wanted you to insta-suicide once the dance started.

Ah yes the instant suicide pact, efficiency above all.

[Shiro]

neither of us can leave the dance on each other shiro. You must swear this on your honor.

When have I ever left you my knight, it is you that alawyas abandon me, yet I keep coming back each dance.

[Shiro]

I cannot take such a vow for thoughts might creep into my mind regardless, it is suspicious that you even want to take such a vow to be honest. Your dragon sympathy is already noted. Dragon are inherently evil, that's why as a princess I hire high level adventures to find their homes, kill them and take their stuff.

[Shiro]

Fire of course I do I made you toothless after the game you had some. Other black dragon beforehand, highly advanced trainer can tame dragons and make them pets sure bit that doesn't change the overral alignment :p

[Shiro]

but Shiro, aren't you a Queen?

Of course not, Queens are almost always evil.

[Shiro]

I cannot take such a vow for thoughts might creep into my mind regardless, it is suspicious that you even want to take such a vow to be honest. Your dragon sympathy is already noted. Dragon are inherently evil, that's why as a princess I hire high level adventures to find their homes, kill them and take their stuff.

I'm a princess and a dragon, get on my level

Adorable

[Shiro]

I am afraid I have to reject your proposal as i find it extremely suspicious

[Shiro]

I am afraid I have to reject your proposal as i find it extremely suspicious

rude

I prefer the term honest

.

[Shiro]

There is still hope for us my knight

[Shiro]

ya I'm starting to think it's like

OkaPoka + Gamma Emerald + ...Shiro???

Nah I am town, trust me, I would lie. It is improper.

[Shiro]

I find the fact that I wanted to post wouldn't and it autocorrect to would pretty hilarious.

[Shiro]

Oh those 2 as scum would just dance together
There’s no rational thought behind it
They would just dance together

Yea thst is most defenitly true

[Shiro]

Shiro- has zero content which I'm going to put as a scum lean on principle

I do have content it is jsut that it is fluffy and pink ^_^

[Shiro]

I don't townread shiro here either because I think shiro is trying to use their refusal to accept my conditions as a way of getting me to think shiro is town.

You never townread me fire that kind of happens in all dance game we've been togehter, yet I am always town, I have never been scum in a dance game I am far too pure ^_^

[Shiro]

I don't townread shiro here either because I think shiro is trying to use their refusal to accept my conditions as a way of getting me to think shiro is town.

You never townread me fire that kind of happens in all dance game we've been togehter, yet I am always town, I have never been scum in a dance game I am far too pure ^_^

this could be the game that has you corrupted shiro!!!!!!!!!

YOU CANT BE PURE FOREVER

Nope, cross my heart and hope to die, I am town as I always have been in dance games. ^_^

[Shiro]

Maybe the system is rigged, maybe FG knowwss such purity cannot be corrupted.

[Shiro]

I don't townread shiro here either because I think shiro is trying to use their refusal to accept my conditions as a way of getting me to think shiro is town.

You never townread me fire that kind of happens in all dance game we've been togehter, yet I am always town, I have never been scum in a dance game I am far too pure ^_^

this could be the game that has you corrupted shiro!!!!!!!!!

YOU CANT BE PURE FOREVER

Nope, cross my heart and hope to die, I am town as I always have been in dance games. ^_^

Then how come you are suspicious of my request? You should know that we can be lynched at any time and I am just asking for you not to leave me. I would think you would want ME not to leave, considering if we are being honest out of the two of us, I am the most trigger happy person likely going to leave.

Because if I later think you are scum, I will actually feel really bad walking out if I promise not to. There might come a point where walking out might be optimal play on my part and I will really tconflicted and awful about doing so if I do promise not to.

[Shiro]

And I mean not gonna lie I played it up a bit cause I like roleplaying a bit in these dance game especially early on

[Shiro]

Ali are you doing this on purpuse at this point or is this all legit thoughts about gamma ?

[Shiro]

I'm not accepting any requests to dance
I want Alisae to eat eir words as soon as possible

This soudns reeeeeaaallly AtE, but if you are town you do realise Ali wont give a fuck either way right?

[Shiro]

Firebringer is trolling too much, should I be worried?

Nah, you would be worried if he didnt to be honest, he tends to be less shitposting as scum

[Shiro]

Ok I made up my mind Fire, I am ready to accept your proposal. Don't make me regret it.

[Shiro]

I solemny swear to not suicide my dear knight even if it is the most optimal of action to pursue, and with that

I ACCEPT YOUR PROPOSAL TO THE DANCE.

[Shiro]

why did u change ur mind anyway?

I am pretty certain you are town at this point.

[Shiro]

shiro super scummy

When will you learn.

[Shiro]

Fire-Shiro won't be any more readable with 2 pairs alive than they are now

Well that is a flat out lie. We are both very readable after a certain point.

[Shiro]

Is the issue of firebringer/shiro solely stemming from their pairing?

And their post quality. Like Fire said Shiro was scummy but still wanted to dance with Shiro? That's really bad.

Like this for instance.

I said numerous times. I was going to pair with shiro regardless of what I even thought was Shiro alignment. I said it a dozen or so times about that, and now its "bad"?

Come on.

Ikr? Everyone was certain we are pairing, 8 add some drama and suddenly they all are socked pikatcu face that we did. It kinda funny.

[Shiro]

shiro can get in line

I shall not, especially for Mariah whose whole posting has seemed imo telegraphed, Mariah in any game I have seen her is far more relaxed. Furthermore Mariah has never read me wrong in any game yet she comes here saying we need to go? Yea I am not buying this in the least. However if Mariah and bit are scum it makes sense in order to draw attention away from but while bit play around the whole thing.

BTW scum/scum pairing has been done twice and both times lead to scum victory just so people know. Mariah is the one that did it with dun. 8 don't think it is beyond reason she would pull it again.

[Shiro]

Well iam not as sure for you ank as I ma for Mariah tbh.

[Shiro]

Welp i am not scum reading Mariah anymore. Btw Mariah I am not talking about dance games but now that I think about it, I think they were games were you were scum sooooo I am kind of en idiot.

[Shiro]

Fire-Shiro won't be any more readable with 2 pairs alive than they are now

Well that is a flat out lie. We are both very readable after a certain point.

Can you link to a dance game where you felt like you were readable?

This is more bogus by the way, from shiro

The way she was acting with Maria acting like maria should have a read on her was weird too

I wasn't talking about a dance game, people generaly townread me after a while when I am town. it just how it is.

[Shiro]

I am not that certain yet. I was actully going to vote mariah today but then I kinda read her latest posts and then I kind of changed my mind.

[Shiro]

lol shiro just posted in my PT that wasn't liking the Oka/Gamma wagon and wanted my input on it because Shiro didn't like it.

Hey don't shout my screw up cause I read pts first Dx Rude

[Shiro]

Doesn't help that I have a tendency to catch up on reverse so I didn't even know until I random saw a post about flip and I am like what so I iso fake and there it was.

[Shiro]

Tbh i fully understand cephir sentiment in his discussion with fire.

[Shiro]

Dunn love you mistake having read nothing and being on page 100

[Shiro]

I would argue page 100 is more than nothing. But what do I know.

[Shiro]

Dunn we evne converses about Mariah and dances and how and if I can obvtown, dud you forget our wonderful interactions D:

[Shiro]

I know, I kinda townread them for it. I suppose he was certain we won't get away with it and wanted the credit 9f being right.

[Shiro]

Tbh i am kinda floating around reading everyone at this point αs town anf poeing those that I feel less inclined about.

Question why do u think creature and gold are t/t I think gold has a fair chance of being scum.

[Shiro]

Vote:Bitmap/Dunn

I shall follow my love, also it apears it is litteraly us or them soooooo

[Shiro]

That's L-1

I'd prefer if we lynched Shiro right now instead of my pairing.

Understandable, tbh I feel you are town and probably far more useful than me but I do think bit has a chance of being scum and I am not scum. Also Fire is like 100% town here.

[Shiro]

If Bitmap were scum, Maria would be very likely scum as well

That was my very initial thought process but liek then I started townreasding her like I always do.

Also like why wouldnt she vote me and fire in this if that was the case as well? Doesnt make much sense unless she is really afraid of you catching her, Which I do not htink is impossible.

[Shiro]

Like nobodyw ould blink twice if she was voting me and fire instead of you and bit makin git more likely that I and fire die instead of bit.

[Shiro]

Really meh and agreeabale with everyone.

See Deas reads also alarmed me a bit about what we are doing, the way he basically only fgocused on mine and yours pair is basically a we lynch these slots back to back but I feel this one has more chance of flipping. I dont neccessarly see this as coming from scum but if bit is town that is where my vote is going afterwards.

My initial call for scum in my pt was Golden,Deas,Bit Obviosuly I am wrong but you get what I mean.

[Shiro]

I do feel cehpir is town in the pair just lost.

[Shiro]

I kidna think we are getting lynched after you or before you if the tides change regardless.

[Shiro]

See Deas reads also alarmed me a bit about what we are doing, the way he basically only fgocused on mine and yours pair is basically a we lynch these slots back to back but I feel this one has more chance of flipping. I dont neccessarly see this as coming from scum but if bit is town that is where my vote is going afterwards.

Where else do you think I should focus?

Dunno, that why I said I dont neccessarly think this is coming from scum. It can very well be town that sees this as todays focus so we focus on this.

[Shiro]

So the problem I have right now is that I'm like, pretty confident about that mislynch wagon at least holding one scum

The problem is that if yiu think it's a mislynch wagon how can yiu think it has scum in it?

[Shiro]

lets storm area 51

Too early fire.

[Shiro]

So the problem I have right now is that I'm like, pretty confident about that mislynch wagon at least holding one scum

The problem is that if yiu think it's a mislynch wagon how can yiu think it has scum in it?

It wouldn't be a mislynch wagon if DeasCeph had a red

Irrelevant.. If you were truly confident it has scum in it, you wouldn't call it a mislynch.

[Shiro]

None ank, been on a hiatus and I have been town ever since :p

[Shiro]

OK ok this is the most recent scum game a little before I dropped the game out of boredom
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=72951
I was xaldin.

[Shiro]

wow

so do you have any other way to show you're town then

My adorbalness of course ^~^

Tbh I have seen scum unconsciously make that mistake that why I pointed it out and I don't townread unwn to outright dismiss it.
*shrug*

[Shiro]

Fire is defenitly town I can vouch for that. As for me you just have to take my word on it.

[Shiro]

Does that mean you will trust me

[Shiro]

I can show you my arguable best scum game of yiu want but it's a big game and quite old though I am proud of it. I claimed scum and won. Funtimes.

[Shiro]

Funnily enough I was hydra with fire in that game.

[Shiro]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=65683

Here you go.

[Shiro]

Still one of my favorite games. <3

[Shiro]

I'm seeing mostly short term planning and little long term planning

so I think my point is still valid

[Shiro]

Let's us go friends

Vote:bit

\o/

[Shiro]

Dunn do u still think if bit is svum that it's with Maria?

[Shiro]

I just woke up to everything having changed and rob flipping scum.

I am glad I was right.

[Shiro]

fire what does your PT look like?

its like less than a page, shiro gives a bit of thoughts on different players. I tell shiro i was down about us mislynching and then shiro tries to give me a pep talk, and then i ask for shiro for more thoughts on the wagons, and shiro hasn't posted since.

ohh shiro was also disapointed in me not giving alot of thoughts in the PT too.

That is true, tbh when you started posting everything I said I skipped the pt and posted directly here

[Shiro]

My goalposts is that if Shiro's next post is in pink again like predance I will say I won this game

SORRY I SAW IT LATE D:

[Shiro]

Thoughts, Shiro.

First of all I would like to state that I wasn't on Gold because I wasnt here.

Fire is kind wrong in saying I have been scumreading mariar whole game, I was scumreading, then I was townreading her, then I wanted to trust DUnn who is good at reading her but at the same time I was not scumreading her and now we are at the point of that .

Honestly, honestly I think it is unwn for last scum and this is pure PoE plus never truly likling the slot I get the same vibes from him as I did from golden. I can't really see pops as scum tbh.
I am 100% You and FB are town. 100% and I only read Fire wrong once. I do not think this is second.

[Shiro]

Why is pops town?

And mariar town too, actually

General feel, reading their posts I dont get town vibes

[Shiro]

I mean scum vibes there but yea

[Shiro]

I dont get the same feeling, have you never had that without ebing able to pinpoint why ?

[Shiro]

What I also don't find town is anything related to shiro

Yes but I am town. Tbh I dont mind being lynched as long as you dont lose it end game and walk out or something, I am confident your pair is TvT so this is a win imo.

[Shiro]

Like assuming I am wrong about pop, it is still the pair I want to die.

[Shiro]

You are my strongest townread Fire.

[Shiro]

What I also don't find town is anything related to shiro

Yes but I am town. Tbh I dont mind being lynched as long as you dont lose it end game and walk out or something, I am confident your pair is TvT so this is a win imo.

stuff like this bugs me when shiro says i am 100% town.

That's because our pair is as strong as it's weakest link and boy am I a weak link

[Shiro]

FB, look at how GR played the game

It makes by far the most sense with Shiro being scum

Seeing as he wanted me dead from start to finish I dont see how. And it is not lke I was not very very much on the lynch blok. The onyl assumption for that case tbh is that rob was trying to end game and imo that was always impossible.

[Shiro]

shiro that doesn't make sense that ur fine with a TvT pair getting lynched.

I am not fine with it per say, I am at terms with it being a very likely possibility because of my play.

[Shiro]

Like I do believe we can endgame here but I dont think I am capable of convincing anyone that isnt alreayd convinced that I am town.

[Shiro]

Actually I can say something.

If I was scumm this means oka exposed himselkf to protect me while Gol bussed to death to anti spew like ank said and all that to bet everything on me who was scumread by half the game and was doing practically nothing to win us the game.

How can that make sense to anyone is beyond me.

^ This however is shit kind of defence however.

[Shiro]

Pretty much which means both other scum went all in on their bets on me winning.

[Shiro]

That was fairly impossible with creature sayiong from the get go they will walk out on numerous occasion.

[Shiro]

Because I know fire enough to know that. I am fairly certain he meant what he said start of the game about walking out. Gun in my head I am certain he wouldnt walk out even if it was optimal play and likewise I would do the same too. Someitmes it is more fun this way.

Nobody has left MariaR on a dance(at least if I recall correctly) multiple people have said they would, not seeing a trend starting now Also you never really felt like you were truly scumreading her enough to do so. Walking out needs adamant conviction for most people that are analytical and you seem to be the sort.

[Shiro]

I'm up to leave the dance after both FB/Shiro and Dunn/Bit.

See this? This was honestly all the indication that there was no way Gold was endgaming after my lynch. Creature was never pocketed. I am willing to bet he doesnt kill you or mariar over Gold ever.

[Shiro]

I may opt to leave the dance, but only after the other scum dies.

And there are more instances of him saying that.

[Shiro]

Another good reason to go antispew, yes?

No becuase it is very dumb, there was absolutly no way of creature killing you or mariar over gold, no indication this would ever change either.

[Shiro]

and if it was the case I would have at least attempted to help gold instead of doing nothing and attempting to win on my own.

[Shiro]

Because no once I believed you actually were leaving MariaR as I pointed out.

[Shiro]

Ank did you know we have played scum together ? I just recalled and went to check (Because you had asked about my scum games )

P.edit

Yes, I very much did.

[Shiro]

Well I was certain about it. And yes you cant see me endgaming which is why it would have been very dumb of me to not do anything to help gold.
I was the least likely to endgame but you assume as scum I, instead of helping gold decided to do nothing and assume I will just maange to win.

[Shiro]

Do you honestly think anyone in my team(if I was scum) or in the game made any assumption I would endgame, if anything I should have tried to get myself lynched to assist gold on actually pocketing creature, this whole play is counterpoductive.

P.edit

You did?

[Shiro]

I mean I am not trying to protect myself I am replying to what you say, I dont care if you lynch me as long as you dont screw it up afterwards.

[Shiro]

I wouldnt really call myself inconsistent tbh

[Shiro]

Sorry fire I failed you

Before ank hammers remember what I said.

Pops I trust you will leave, I am quite adamnt unwn is last scum, his interaction with ank the last few pages and how easzily he voted me when he supposdly scumreads Mariar when he heard that ank will leave if I get lynched and flip toiwn was awful

MariaR and Ank dont give in to stupid paranoia about each other. Unwn is trying to do exactly that by trying desperatly to paint MariaR as scum.

Vote:Unwn

As a last act of defiance.

Shiro loves you all
Even though you sent me away <3

[Shiro]

Go ahead Ank you will eventually do it just dont fuck up and give in to paranoia afterwards.

[Shiro]

Paranoia is bad trust you rinstict and will try to make you leave he will try his best to make you paranoid of MariaR like hs is trying to do already. Stay strong.

[Shiro]

au revoir

[Shiro]

Shiro ;-;

It was a fun and memorably dance, just like eveyr other before it<3

Shiro believes in you.

P.EDIT WTF?

[Shiro]

That was......what?

[Shiro]

I am at loss of words

[Shiro]

I uh, wasn't expecting this at all.

I do not think anyone was.

[Shiro]

Shiro now that you see I am town leaving the game what do you think

I dunno, I legit dont know, I hope to everything I was just plain wrong about pops and we won. Else the 4 way will be a bloody nightmare. I have very strong townreads on all 3.

[Shiro]

Fire we did it <3 we endgamed a dance.

Hoenstly yea it is hard for scum to win but scum can win and it has happened. I think this game is genrally meant to play on paranoia and that is what scum should strive in order to win.

I had fun though and I am sorry you hate my play with fire pops

[Shiro]

wow I didn't expect pops to be scum here

Ali you wanted me to die, and I didnt, so HA

[Shiro]

Shiro your play was really townie

I don't hate it at all tbh

During the game it'd hurt my wincon to bitch about it but it's really rude for you be playing by meta on a half-outed secret alt unwnd and I agree with Cephrir about that. If you don't want to play meta mafia make a deep identity secret alt. If you do then don't play on an alt man. It makes it more annoying to hear these stories about what you all did last Friday night.

My identity isn't amazing I promise, I am just a truant lurker and sporadic games joiner who plays too much Mafia in general. The only established Meta I had was with Creature/Maria/Dunnstral

It was directed to pops and how he said he disliked me and fire making a non suicide pact.

[Shiro]

Tbh like tbh if I was hammered, it was over. Ank would have walked out on MariaR eventually. You almost won pops

[Shiro]

how about dance game but
everyone plays to their wincon

I mean didnt we\?

[Shiro]

I was literally looking for a video to post with the hammer when you spewed, shiro

Was it really that townie?

[Shiro]

Shiro you promised not to leave Firebringer even if it was the best thing to do to reach your win condition. If you were joking you didn't make it clear that you were.

Yes but I would have voted him He was my strognest townread though so it was virtualy impossible regardless.

[Shiro]

BTW If I remember correctly games scum won didnt kill the Innocent child.

[Shiro]

Shiro ik we don't play often but it's always fun playing with you I thought you should know that

[Shiro]

I also like playing with Shiro so far

I was 1/2 in my guesses, right on pops wrong on Gamma, didn't decide on the third before Oka was flipped

*hug* Shiro, you were great :3

More love <3

I try my best to be enjoyable.

[Shiro]

BTW If I remember correctly games scum won didnt kill the Innocent child.

I think not

probably lolold-site-meta

Witches' Halloween Ball - IC paired with town. Shot during intermission. Town win.
Valentine's Dance - IC paired with scum. Town win.
Midsummer Night's Revelry - IC paired with town. Survives to endgame. Town win.
New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - IC paired with town. Shot during intermission. Scum win.
Summer Waltz - IC paired with town. Shot during intermission. Scum win.
Spring Waltz - IC paired with scum. Scum win.

Ah, I have been in 3 dances including this but I remembered being in more.

Town started winning when I started playing dances. COINCIDENCE? I think not my good friends.

[Shiro]

I'm not sure that the town would turn against Gaiden.

I would've shielded gaiden forever

You say that now but the paranoia of why the IC wasnt killed would hit in at some point

[Shiro]

MariaR goes for the uwu owo tsundere-dere look but you never know if she has a knife behind her back.

WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Missed chance, you should have gone

o//o T..t.tthat is not true you b-baka