Project ARCH - Epilogue

[KidAmn]

oh so Simotech is scum?
Do we know if it's a 3rd party or the groupscum of the game.

Simotech were the "town" of the first game, but it was very much a "are we the bad guys?" moment at the end. (spoiler, yes, kinda). Previous game was very "victor writes history", I expect this game to follow suit.

Speaking of last game, who's gonna be the Mathblade that causes me to go into a 30 page death spiral of madness culminating in a giant all caps rant this time?

[KidAmn]

I'd expect 0-1 Simotech infiltrators in each corporation. Not every corp will have one, but the flavour (in as much as it can be used as an indicator here, which is to say, near nothing, so feel free to ignore this) suggests Simotech have inveigled their way into almost everything.

[KidAmn]

Hm, true.

Vote: Gamma Emerald

This is not a RVS vote.

[KidAmn]

@Rautherdir: Are you aligned with the Rebels?

Has this ever worked? Semi-serious question.

[KidAmn]

Discussing hypotheticals re: flavour will do that to a person's tone. I grok what you're saying, I don't think it's IA.

[KidAmn]

I'll go with an alternate statement instead of answering that question, I am either aligned with The Rebels or with Simotech, I have no definite knowledge of other alignments right now.

...I can deal with Gamma later.

unvote; vote: Rautherdir

[KidAmn]

The manner in which you chose to answer it does not engender confidence.

[KidAmn]

Speaking of last game, who's gonna be the Mathblade that causes me to go into a 30 page death spiral of madness culminating in a giant all caps rant this time?

VOTE: purple anime detective

Thank you for volunteering.

[KidAmn]

Speaking of last game, who's gonna be the Mathblade that causes me to go into a 30 page death spiral of madness culminating in a giant all caps rant this time?

VOTE: purple anime detective

Thank you for volunteering.

We can skip directly to the all caps omgus part if you want

Nah dude, it's about the build. We both have to be completely wrong about everything for 30 pages until we both look and sound like meth'd out lot lizards, THEN we go ballistic.

[KidAmn]

Speaking of last game, who's gonna be the Mathblade that causes me to go into a 30 page death spiral of madness culminating in a giant all caps rant this time?

VOTE: purple anime detective

Thank you for volunteering.

We can skip directly to the all caps omgus part if you want

Nah dude, it's about the build. We both have to be completely wrong about everything for 30 pages until we both look and sound like meth'd out lot lizards, THEN we go ballistic.

My gf keeps telling me im not good w/ build up

Yeah, she mentioned it.

What's a lot lizard

On the one hand, I want to tell you to google it. On the other hand, I want you to put SafeSearch on first just in case.

[KidAmn]

takeown /f C:\Windows\System32\MariaR

cacls C:\Windows\System32\MariaR

[KidAmn]

F's in the chat

[KidAmn]

Me gamma and 1 other player have info that isn't widely available and MariaR has outright scumslipped. I don't want to say any more about it right now to not give away information, but the chances of MariaR being town at this point are next to non-existent.

No I do not agree.

Read what I said before game

I was bored

Gamma's actually actually scum though

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Do you have any interest in anything but vagueness and vagaries or are you just going to make frenzied declarations all game long? FWIW, I have reason to consider Gamma a person of interest at the very least.

[KidAmn]

Me gamma and 1 other player have info that isn't widely available and MariaR has outright scumslipped. I don't want to say any more about it right now to not give away information, but the chances of MariaR being town at this point are next to non-existent.

No I do not agree.

Read what I said before game

I was bored

Gamma's actually actually scum though

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Do you have any interest in anything but vagueness and vagaries or are you just going to make frenzied declarations all game long? FWIW, I have reason to consider Gamma a person of interest at the very least.

This wasn't a hypothetical question, CC

[KidAmn]

The problem I have with this Gamma/RC thing (and it is presumably just the RC head right now) is that I have little to zero reason to trust either of them. Gamma because... and RC because they're always like this and it's always infuriating and takes over the game, town or scum.

[KidAmn]

The problem I have with this Gamma/RC thing (and it is presumably just the RC head right now) is that I have little to zero reason to trust either of them. Gamma because... and RC because they're always like this and it's always infuriating and takes over the game, town or scum.

This is an incredibly incredibly scummy response.

How does me being infuriating conflate to not having a reason to trust me?

I like that you jumped straight on the infuriating part and not "takes over the game, town or scum", which presumably you're smart enough to know is the real reason I have no reason to trust you.

[KidAmn]

I like that you jumped straight on the infuriating part and not "takes over the game, town or scum", which presumably you're smart enough to know is the real reason I have no reason to trust you.

Oh that's scummy too. Just for different reasons

VOTE: Kidamn

Here now.

This is remarkably silly even for you.

If you don't trust either right now Kid is this more indicative of null or that you suspect both

Both, for different reasons.

[KidAmn]

Ah, wonderful. The true Mathblade of this game has revealed themselves, and it's RC. Incidentally, lying about the size of the wagon that formed entirely off people sheeping you because you're the loudest and most obnoxious personality in the room is a great look for you.

[KidAmn]

Chemist do you want your reputation on MS to be for being a useless lurksack

Not helpful.

[KidAmn]

KA what are some of your reads not related to RC at all

I have some issues with Gamma that I'll work out on my own - at the very least I have good reason to suspect his alignment doesn't match my own, although I don't want to go into those reasons too deeply at this point in time.

MariaR's sticking to their posting style enough that I'm willing to dismiss it; their actual posts however,

I believe I shall OMGUS this player until the I detect a more likely virus. As user 13 is not a high-value player regardless I am fine with this
VOTE: Wheme Star

I believe I have upset user 13 feelings by being honest. Although it appears they have no logical reason to think I'm a virus.

Like you won't get her lynched D1 if she's scum so pushing her D1 seems like a complete waste of time fmpov

User 5 is correct. If my data banks are correct I have never been lynched Day 1 before as scum so putting in the effort to try is futile. If you have logical reasoning to think I'm a virus however I suggest you share it.

(I know I've included an RC post here, eat me, it feeds into the vibe I'm getting) feel weird. The wording of 457 especially feels off.

Primate's odd query of Rauth elicited an interesting reaction given Rauth's, shall we say,

particular

choice of words, but they've done very little except complain about the fact that certain personalities warp the game:

I tell you what, this game is so much more bizarre when you don't actually know any of the personalities involved anymore. It's like "I'm voting Rumpletumple because he's fuckin rumpletumple" and others are like "no not the magnificent rumpletumple."

They've done precious little to try and get in the game since that exchange with Rauth, and that needs to change.

Bambi's early talk of "making sure people who can make use of it" (I'm paraphrasing here) get the serum, when we all need it to power our vote still rubs me up the wrong way for some reason. Just a little niggle in the back of my mind.

[KidAmn]

@detective do you mins sharing your gamma content

Yes. Yes I do. And use my name.

[KidAmn]

OH YEEEEEAH

[KidAmn]

I can vaguely see what you're saying Cloudy but I'm still not sure, like you say it feels like someone who feels unjustly pushed but I don't see that.
But I also think I can agree with the idea of leaving him to post more and seeing what happens
VOTE: MariaR though because I stand by the fact this isn't how town!Maria approaches me at all

It is not tesxtbook scum!mariar either, I think she's just purposefully trying to not AI tell at all, she's being opaque.

That being said, I have played with her in years & with any of you either, did her scum play changes?
How about your play gamma, I want to include you in my town circle but I recall having misread you in the past even if you strike me playing different and better this game than the one I mistownread you in

FWIW I think there's a non-zero chance MariaR/GE is scum theatre. I would be incredibly impressed/depressed/freshly pressed if neither slot flipped scum.

[KidAmn]

So what do people think about chemist

I'll bite.

141 + 185 "I'll catch up" then "oh well never mind catching up"

203 through to 732 is memeing/zero-content

734 + 736 "gimme a chance to effort" + "I'll effort real soon"

738+739+740 is a token effort that results in pretty much nothing

763 is again, nothing

They're coasting, doing p. much zero thinking of their own, and generally lurky as fuck. Not necessarily AI, but not something I like.

[KidAmn]

muted cheers, one guy in the back boo-ing out of contrarianism

[KidAmn]

As someone with a history of replacing into marathon games and reading up on them, it's safe to say I take a dim view of the actions of our little penguin friend.

[KidAmn]

Quite evasive too, aren't you.

[KidAmn]

Reaction test over. Results...positive. Moving on to real lynch target
VOTE: Primate

[KidAmn]

I'm 99.99% sure Gamma doesn't have the same role PM I do. I don't know whether or not that means he doesn't have the same alignment as I do.

I'll tell you right now my role mentions another faction and I assumed it was Aeon from the prologue.

I agree with CK that outing this was a terrible idea. I'm also of the opinion that, now that you have, you might as well go whole hog.

I just don't see how third most posts = underwhelming, but that makes sense what you said.

As for a read list I'd like to make that in it's own post but I'll certainly do it. Btw do you want plain or FANCY?

You and I have both played enough games with the sort of people who make 10 posts in 20 minutes with 1 post's worth of useful content to know that sheer volume of posting doesn't exclude being underwhelming.

[KidAmn]

I will try to do my best to post but until I feel better, RC will continue the be the active head. Sorry.

Same.

[KidAmn]

Speaking of considerations i no longer scumread GE.
There's my consideration due to new info.

I disagree.

RC softed prs throught the day, he even sliped that we was PR along. Any scum who can read wouldve gunned them down

I didnt think he did until he slipped lack of confidence in the "VTs" being BP.

RC takes over games regardless of alignment and would have eventually through sheer bloody-mindedness assembled something close to a town-bloc. I think they were going to be killed by scum regardless of whatever softing or slips they dropped.

Vote: Gamma Emerald

mostly for testing purposes when the next VC comes along, but also because I still don't believe they're town based on information.

[KidAmn]

Dunn, I would like you to claim ANY negative utility aspect of your role

VOTE: Dunnstral

I’m not joking about this.

I'd be interested to know your thought process here. They've already claimed miller, obviously, but walk me through it.

Information has come to light that makes me wonder just how close y'all are in your corporations. Do you get lunch together? Scandalous midnight rendezvous?

VOTE: Kidamn
I don't think your sorting is genuine

Call me Jon Moxley because the chainsaws are so last year sweetie

[KidAmn]

He claimed Miller D1, do you have information that he has MORE NU aspects of his role aside from that?

Potentially. I know someone in this game has a very powerful role and based off what has happened to me, I think it might be Dunn.

Jeez people spewing infos left and right, why do you want a town slot to out?

Because whatever targeted me is most likely not town.

I wonder if I have an old friend of yours close at hand.

[KidAmn]

KidAmn what the actual hell are you talking about

Did you do this to me?

Nope. I'm all run dry baby, didn't vote for the right guy, didn't get my fix.

But I think I have a friend who got caught in the fallout.

[KidAmn]

I have a reasonably strong guess as to what happened to Oversoul, but I'm also reasonably sure it's their info to share. It would explain what happened to the new slumdog millionaire too.

[KidAmn]

Primate's posting has been textbook scumclaiming since the start of the day, I have no clue how is no one seeing how blatant he got as I do

I want to vote inside the people on the wagon because whatever targeted me had to have been with serum help.

Simotech is behind all this shit, some abilities are costed well beyond what people could afford for N1. Can't say for sure scum don't have a stockpile or the alternative ways to earn it mentioned in post 0. Could well be they get some for mislynches or successful night kills (although if its only the latter, that does point us back to the wagoner)

[KidAmn]

Interesting. FWIW, my theory re: OS and Sakura was completely wrong, so that's

fun

. Also my vote on GE didn't go through, which should confirm to everyone at the very least that I a) have no serum, having not been on the lynch wagon, and b) had no way of gaining serum through additional sketchy means. Draw whatever conclusions from that you will.
So, now we just gotta work out what the frak is going on with our Milleriser or whatever the fuck Dunn is (why you would claim Miller but not the rest of your bullshit is beyond me, unless you're claiming it for convenience) and why they're not being open & honest w/us... oh and [redacted] is a fun little private puzzle I get to work out.

unvote

since it doesn't do anything anyway.

[KidAmn]

Interesting. FWIW, my theory re: OS and Sakura was completely wrong, so that's

fun

. Also my vote on GE didn't go through, which should confirm to everyone at the very least that I a) have no serum, having not been on the lynch wagon, and b) had no way of gaining serum through additional sketchy means. Draw whatever conclusions from that you will.
So, now we just gotta work out what the frak is going on with our Milleriser or whatever the fuck Dunn is (why you would claim Miller but not the rest of your bullshit is beyond me, unless you're claiming it for convenience) and why they're not being open & honest w/us... oh and [redacted] is a fun little private puzzle I get to work out.

unvote

since it doesn't do anything anyway.

Did you use an ability with 0 serum cost and an upkeep? Or did someone target you which made you addicted to the serum and thus, lose your vote since no serum?

Neither.

[KidAmn]

Interesting. FWIW, my theory re: OS and Sakura was completely wrong, so that's

fun

. Also my vote on GE didn't go through, which should confirm to everyone at the very least that I a) have no serum, having not been on the lynch wagon, and b) had no way of gaining serum through additional sketchy means. Draw whatever conclusions from that you will.
So, now we just gotta work out what the frak is going on with our Milleriser or whatever the fuck Dunn is (why you would claim Miller but not the rest of your bullshit is beyond me, unless you're claiming it for convenience) and why they're not being open & honest w/us... oh and [redacted] is a fun little private puzzle I get to work out.

unvote

since it doesn't do anything anyway.

Did you use an ability with 0 serum cost and an upkeep? Or did someone target you which made you addicted to the serum and thus, lose your vote since no serum?

Neither.

Did you start the game with an upkeep?

Yup. No further questions, por favor.

[KidAmn]

V/LA from now until Sunday evening. Family funeral.

[KidAmn]

I don't trust anyone that has me as a strong town read. I've been vague, unhelpful, and largely not here.

[KidAmn]

Well if it is Creature, he is avoiding this game. He is posting elsewhere on site. Additionally, doesn’t Creature hate scum?

Yes, yes and yes
That is if it's creature.

I'm not 100% sure it is, i saw someone mention it, so I guess the real question is, is this player posting Creature Style or not?

Having played with scum!Creature, their playstyle (or lack thereof) fits that.

[KidAmn]

Girls, girls. You're

both

pretty.

[KidAmn]

If it seems like I'm resistant to a wagon on Chemist I am to an extent. I think his interactions have shown an attempt to get engaged with the game and his reads don't seem fabricated, but there's been less of that recently from him and that's not the main reason. The main reason is that I don't think any wagon on him is likely to get any response except further lurking and possibly replacement. It's possible I'm overextrapolating my position wrong based on the one game we played (a game without traditional lynch mechanics) and someone in this game calling him a habitual lurker earlier this game, so I need to have a read of some of his other games, but that's my stance on it.

I think that's bullshit, he's been prodging more than I have and I had a goddamn funeral yesterday. He's made a couple of cursory attempts to engage at best.

Okay.

6 companies and unemployed bums. guess its too late to claim unemployed, hunh.

Serum is gained by muderballing people. serum releases probs op abilities.

Out of interest,

are

you claiming to be unemployed (and presumably part of the Outcasts?)

[KidAmn]

Mass claim on D2 is stupid. Forming a bloc with a miller claim is stupid. Considering anyone "confirmed" anything is equally stupid. That's stupid³

[KidAmn]

I noticed.

[KidAmn]

Firebringer Waifu

Ur waifu a shit

[KidAmn]

Oh right...

VOTE: almost50

I think I dislike A50, Chemist or CK more than Pisskpop rn

Fyi I am liking A50 less now

Almost, do you have any scumreads besides Chemist?

?

Live footage from Oversoul

[KidAmn]

More importantly, does any of this bear any relevance or importance to this game whatsoever.

[KidAmn]

pisskop isn't simotech. get off his wagon.

Well unless you can debunk what i have against PK, you can bet im never getting off his wagon.

• His predecesor being a Creature Alt
  
• His predecessor playing to their scum meta
  
• Himself not playing to his self-proclaimed town meta

Yes I do. I've activated my neighborhood already. It doesn't work on simotech.

Uh... Huh. Yall got any more of them... Details? Don't out who's in obv, but like Johnny Rico, I would like to know more.

[KidAmn]

As someone who can't even vote, personally I couldn't care less about VCs.

[KidAmn]

I will consider it a scumclaim & out your crumbs + the fact that you are double ccd and are not leading on them

If you're town why not just... Do this

Like, explain

[KidAmn]

unvote vote gamma

That ain't it chief

[KidAmn]

Also how many fuckin hoods are there gonna be in this game

[KidAmn]

vote: Whemestar

[KidAmn]

VOTE: Wheme
Well i wanted this D1 but CC didnt want to, so this makes me happy.

Do you scumread me

What part of "I wanted this D1" doesn't suggest that

[KidAmn]

VOTE: Wheme
Well i wanted this D1 but CC didnt want to, so this makes me happy.

Do you scumread me

What part of "I wanted this D1" doesn't suggest that

None of if? This is a scummy post bud

Take the golden star out of your avatar, scribble "u trid" on it and affix it directly to your forehead

[KidAmn]

I mean

[KidAmn]

What the fuck.

[KidAmn]

Honestly going to death tunnel on Almsot or replace out I am that certain he is not town

Replacements, while sometimes necessary, also serve as an outside influence. As such, do not tell other players to replace out.

Do not publicly threaten to replace out of a game.

If you do need to replace out, do not publicly discuss your reasons or anything else, as you are no longer a player in the game. PM your game moderator if you are considering replacing out or have concerns and believe another player should be replaced out.

[KidAmn]

Cloudkicker
MariaR
Rainn
Bambi Jay
Gamma Emerald
Claude GD
fish monger
RedPanda
Almost50
Primate
Sakura Hana
oversoul


Rautherdir
dunn

Imagine making a readlist and completely forgetting players from it

[KidAmn]

If I did its because mod did.

Spoiler: Source

Vote Count 3.1

Cloudkicker-

[0]

MariaR-

[0]

KidAmn-

[0]

Rautherdir-

[0]

Rainn -

[0]

Bambi Jay-

[0]

Gamma Emerald -

[0]

Claude GD -

[0]

fish monger -

[1] Dunnstral

RedPanda -

[0]

Oversoul -

[0]

Almost50 -

[1] Oversoul

Primate -

[0]

Sakura Hana-

[0]

Dunnstral -

[0]

Not Voting -

Cloudkicker, MariaR, Rautherdir, Rainn, Bambi Jay, Gamma Emerald, Claude GD, fish monger, RedPanda, Almost50, Primate, Sakura Hana

Mod Notes –

With 15 Alive, It Takes 8 to Lynch.

Day Ends In (expired on 2019-09-03 05:23:45).

Well isn't that strange. Why would the mod do that, Fish?

PEdit: you tell me.

[KidAmn]

If I did its because mod did.

Spoiler: Source

Vote Count 3.1

Cloudkicker-

[0]

MariaR-

[0]

KidAmn-

[0]

Rautherdir-

[0]

Rainn -

[0]

Bambi Jay-

[0]

Gamma Emerald -

[0]

Claude GD -

[0]

fish monger -

[1] Dunnstral

RedPanda -

[0]

Oversoul -

[0]

Almost50 -

[1] Oversoul

Primate -

[0]

Sakura Hana-

[0]

Dunnstral -

[0]

Not Voting -

Cloudkicker, MariaR, Rautherdir, Rainn, Bambi Jay, Gamma Emerald, Claude GD, fish monger, RedPanda, Almost50, Primate, Sakura Hana

Mod Notes –

With 15 Alive, It Takes 8 to Lynch.

Day Ends In (expired on 2019-09-03 05:23:45).

Well isn't that strange. Why would the mod do that, Fish?

PEdit: you tell me.

Wait...
Are you for real?

Vote: Fish Monger

Am I, though?

[KidAmn]

100 posts including the mod clapping back at Sakura later, I'm gonna say it wasn't. Probably.

...

run C:\Windows\System32\MariaR\fullclaim

[KidAmn]

CK/OS/Fish Monger

Lynch in there, you won't go wrong.

I'm not 3P, Almost. I've been hard softing since almost the start of D1 what I am and what I can/can't do. I've also pretty conclusively proven I'm town for reasons that should be obvious to anyone that thinks hard enough about it.

[KidAmn]

The fact that I've had no vote since D2 started is both a big ol' clue and the main reason for my general lack of engagement. Plus, this game is an unmitigated cluster fuck.

[KidAmn]

Given the way certain players treated them for their scumread on those players, I can't say I'm surprised.

[KidAmn]

CK/OS/Fish Monger

Lynch in there, you won't go wrong.

I'm not 3P, Almost. I've been hard softing since almost the start of D1 what I am and what I can/can't do. I've also pretty conclusively proven I'm town for reasons that should be obvious to anyone that thinks hard enough about it.

if youre useless during he day why are you here or not a stump?

or not claiming to help town with your info

Who said I was useless during the day, or a stump? As for claiming, me full claiming involves outing my entire 'corp, which I'm not willing to do in the event that scum have ways to fuck with that in the same manner as they did to Sakura.

[KidAmn]

Rainn's content about the mechanics of the game were pretty good, but this whole push on me is objectively abysmal

No it isn't they have a point

He has no point, everything he claims is that my playstyle is scummy yet hasnt bothered to double check anything from my past games.

Engaging someone 1vs1 and voting outside is not scummy.
Fosing someone and naked voting them is scummy but then i explained my reads once asked (about primate) so it was a genuine read.
He says im ungenuine, I didnt even lie in this game when I usually do as town so thats pretty funny

What is his case if not those shallow points

I think you are being disingenuous (THE CORRECT WORD BY THE WAY), specifically you acting like you and Sakura having similar roles should make you the same alignment and acting like your resistance to unwnd and especially Wheme were clearly presented.

Given that the first game in this series had roles mirrored within town and scum (remember me, Zachstralkita and the scum daytalk enabler, Gamma?) I'd say if anything that would make me think at least one of them is scum.

Pedit: you keep on thinking that bro. Once this baby hits 5 serum, we'll see what your truth is.

[KidAmn]

The fact that I've had no vote since D2 started is both a big ol' clue and the main reason for my general lack of engagement. Plus, this game is an unmitigated cluster fuck.

All I know about being voteless is you probably had an action on DAY ONE and you couldn't afford to pay the upkeep on N1. Other than that I have no idea why it spews you town, but you're not high on my lynch pool so.. *Shrug*

Nope. Started with 0, I have an upkeep even without acting. I can only assume it is to balance out what is quite frankly a silly power, because it means without people somehow granting me serum or me being on every single wagon and us lynching scum every single day, I'll never get to use it.

[KidAmn]

Oh christ no.

[KidAmn]

You lied about being locked out of pt.

oh not thats real.
If fire isnt a pt moderator he cant help with that.
use thine noodle. there is something

outside

of your little box.


Like I really have a hard time picturing this kind of lashing out as scum-aligned.

Ironic coming from

why is my bg a lie? you havent really explained the difference between nondisclosure and lying? youve just been whining. Look at your avatar. Thats the face your making.

I don't have a vote to put behind it, but I simply do not trust someone who replaced out onto an alt to not get linked to their earlier play and just keeps repeating "nuh-uh not getting lynched".

MariaR flaking is potentially indicative of their alignment too.

[KidAmn]

VOTE: primate

no clue what the vc is, but the writing on the wall says its me or him.

Still TR primate, but can trust rainn, and still waiting for that meta talk about primatescum

"I TR this guy but instead of looking for actual scum, I'm gonna just vote him because momentum on the wagon to save my skin."

[KidAmn]

Double kill is interesting. Could be multiball, but doesn't explain the lack of doubles up to now.

Who got serum from our gifter?

[KidAmn]

I'm claiming it. Duh.

So, tell me if anything I have here is wrong.
Start on 0 like everyone else -> 2 serum from D1 lynch -> IIRC you received some serum from a non lynch source D2 -> 2 Serum from the D3 event -> 4 serum from the Claude lynch -> some amount of serum last night

Is all of this correct? How much serum did you receive last night? And what serum have you spent thus far?
Basically, I want to know how far the doomsday clock has ticked up here.

[KidAmn]

She is lying, I will grant you that. We'll come back to that.

I have currently spent 2 serum, and either have 6 or 8 serum, depending on if I'm lying on getting that serum.

In better news, Gamma visited you last night, KidAmn.

So at least one of your abilities is Motion Detector/Tracker. What made you poke around my home of an evening?

[KidAmn]

No, the event your talking about was from n2. I wasn't on the day 2 wagon.

2 from day 1
2 from night 2 event
4 from day 3 lynch.

8 in total.

So you renounce your claims to have ever previously received serum from a role?

[KidAmn]

Yeah that part was bullshit, but admittedly I wouldn't have outted that part if OS didn't make me think thia was day 5.

To clarify: I tracked Gamma and HE visited YOU.

Interesting. Hold please, need to take a call on another line.

4 from day 3 lynch.

And what about the day 3 event?

The "Night 2" Event Bambi is talking about is presumably the one triggered at D3 outset "The Vault".

PEdit- beat me to it.

Also i forgot to mention since it was together with ankamius' ability pm, but i also got a green seal evenlope.

Any more info than that? Can you do anything with it, or is it just "a thing you have"?

[KidAmn]

Someone being a jerk caused me to quit Mafia too.

[KidAmn]

Intent to hammer. I'll give Primate a few to pop up and say anything if they have it, but I'm unlikely to have my mind changed.

Would personally prefer an Oversoul/FM lynch, but this is fine too. (Gamma can confirm I've said as much in PT.)

Anyone hammering before I do is scum-claiming.

[KidAmn]

Vote: Primate

[KidAmn]

So, that's a scum claim.

[KidAmn]

I'm literally worse than the average VT in this game. I'm John Ryes, an Outcast, aligned with The Rebels.

My 2 abilities are, to paraphrase, being a good for nothing junkie who needs to meet a 1/night Serum upkeep, or suffer the effects listed in post 0; and having access to a hood with Gamma (and now Sakura).

My access after today is going to be spotty to non-existent, so either do shit real fast, or reeeeeeal sloooooow.

[KidAmn]

EBWOP - if you want proof, check the VCs throughout D2 and D3. I'm not listed on any of them. I wasn't on the lynch wagons D1 or D2, and thus didn't recieve any serum until the Day 3 Start event.

I even started softing being a mirror role of Bambi yesterday to try and draw attention from Gamma because my role does literally nothing.

[KidAmn]

I said yesterday to Gamma and Sakura I would lynch from a pool of Primate, Oversoul, and Fish Monger.

I'm feeling

reeeeeal good

about going 3 for 3 here.

[KidAmn]

Part of KidAmn's role has been proven tho, and by that, i mean the fact that they start with an upkeep from the get go which made them voteless for 2 days in a row.

Im not sure why you assume its town AI tho

Has it ever occurred to you that Sakura might consider me town bc

we've been in a goddamn hood most of the game

. A hood Gamma and I didn't even expect Sakura to arrive in, which meant there was interaction in there we presumed to be private and therefore might be considerably more AI?

But hey, let's flip it around. We know everyone in this game started with 0 serum. So tell me, CK - if my complete inability to affect the game state since not being on the D1 wagon (and therefore not having any serum to do anything else until the D3 event) isn't town AI, what do you think it is AI of?

PEdit: this whole "you're mechanically conf to me so I should be to you" thing from CK is weaksauce shit. I'm very comfortable with considering CK/Fish Monger the PoE for today.

[KidAmn]

The more you complain about being in a PoE the more i want to vote you.

VOTE: sakura

silly vote for a silly reason

What do you think of RP/Kidamn?

This is p. nakedly obvious what you're trying to do and I'm 99% sure it won't pan out how you're hoping but feel free to keep openly scumtelling

[KidAmn]

Part of KidAmn's role has been proven tho, and by that, i mean the fact that they start with an upkeep from the get go which made them voteless for 2 days in a row.

Im not sure why you assume its town AI tho

This is pretty clearly trying to cast doubt on my claim despite me displaying all the openness he demands of Bambi

There's literally no reason to fake scumhunting your partner in the hood instead of laying it out in the open if the hood's for 2 ppl and you cant predict that a 3rd would show up.
On top of the scumhunting feeling pretty genuine.
On top of the role.
On top of Kidamn or their supposed partners not making sure they get serum so they can vote.
There's several reasons to think kidamn is just town.

Thats much better than telling implying hes town for having no serum d1

Backs down a little when called out by Sakura

The more you complain about being in a PoE the more i want to vote you.

VOTE: sakura

silly vote for a silly reason

What do you think of RP/Kidamn?

Tries to subtly nudge someone else in the PoE onto me

Can anyone remind me what (if anything) Alisae has done in terms of scumhunting btw? My overriding memory of them is lurking and sheeping (which if they are scum/3rd party will probably get them a Scummie so w/e)

[KidAmn]

Its like the "great lighthouse wonder" in Nahdia Civ's mafia

There was also literally THREE PT enablers (town Virtual Reality odd daytalk, town Virtual Reality even day, and a Scum-only Reality daytalk enabler) in world.createNew(Utopia everHope); which Cloudkicker played in.

[KidAmn]

He claimed Miller D1, do you have information that he has MORE NU aspects of his role aside from that?

Potentially. I know someone in this game has a very powerful role and based off what has happened to me, I think it might be Dunn.

Jeez people spewing infos left and right, why do you want a town slot to out?

Because whatever targeted me is most likely not town.

I wonder if I have an old friend of yours close at hand.

KidAmn what the actual hell are you talking about

Did you do this to me?

were u talking about gamma here kidamn?

No, that was when Sakura got dropped into our hood for reasons still as yet unknown

[KidAmn]

Vote: CK

[KidAmn]

unvote

My guts says follow the tracker, but even the tracker isn't sure (or confirmed). Alisae needs to pipe up.

[KidAmn]

Vote Alisae

I don't see a world in which this kind of overblown "YOU LOSE UR GONNA LOSE" posturing comes from Town-Ali.

[KidAmn]

Prod dodge. Having a bad mental health day. Don't like that RP basically disappeared while all the discussion of potential scum who aren't him happened.

[KidAmn]

unvote

Didn't realise I left it there. Was pretty sure I unvoted at one point too, actually.

[KidAmn]

unvote

Didn't realise I left it there. Was pretty sure I unvoted at one point too, actually.

Useful input /s
Concerned about posturizing over producing any kind of content

Dude, fuck you. You have exactly 0 idea what I'm dealing with right now. I do not have the energy or time to explain how many ways you can go fuck yourself right now.

[KidAmn]

multi scum where scum don't know each other and an aeon traitor who don't know both scumteams. I mean, is that actually what you guys think?

This is... pretty common, correct me if I'm wrong? And Panda says "an Aeon traitor who don't know both scumteams" which feels weird to me because it's quite explicitly set out in the opening flavour post

We've gathered all of you here, not only to define the future of our country like we claimed, but to finally destroy Simotech as well.

So it's been pretty much everyone's (except Aeon, presumably) assumption that Simotech are The Scum until Aeon started flipping and we saw they don't have to win with town/can win with Simotech (was my interpretation of it). In our PT, we speculated prior to Gamma's death that the weird event that happened signified Aeon disbanding or a change in leadership

Revival

News reports all over the West Coast mention that most, if not all members, part of a rogue organisation are dissatisfied with the current leadership and as such have defected to other powerful players on the market. The effect of this event on the future of our continent so far is unknown, but we believe it to be for the better.

The effects of this event are not public knowledge.

but Gamma also noted that it's possible every Aeon death triggered an event. Panda being an Aeon Traitor with potentially no-one to defect to could have caused any kind of weird shit to happen. Hell, they could be a traitor, but not Aeon. All good lies have a bit of truth in them after all.

Re: CK saying RP's posting habits didn't change - they clearly did, given that RP was prodded along with me. They just clammed right up there, and let things run their course.

FWIW, CK had scum prior to their death within OS, Primate, RP and Fish Monger. I largely agreed with that pool then, and now that it's gone 2 for 3, I don't disagree with it now. That said, there's all kind of bastard man things that could be going on, so who fucking knows any more.

[KidAmn]

I hope you don't give an excuse like "oh Ck only defended panda because he is scum who knew panda would flip town" tomorrow. CK is town and he worked too hard to be scum in my book.

BTW this could be read as a townslip;
Assuming we are all correct and mafias are 3/3 and both last mafia are their last remaining members...
A solo mafia would not think about associations like that and how people could assume I am scum for reading them town, since they wouldn't know themselves who's last mafia of the other faction

Or they could just be throwing shit out to try and screw over the other faction/cause maximum mindfuck.

[KidAmn]

Kind of a weak way for it to end. Town basically all just... played reasonably from D2 onwards, were relatively open, and scum didn't keep up with that current. GGs.

[KidAmn]

Shoutout to CK, replacing out just before we won after suggesting that Panda hadn't tried to lurk out of the spotlight while we all waffled on at the end... when Panda got prodded for inactivity at the same time I did.

Like. Wow.

[KidAmn]

I definitely expected game to be a lot more bastard, to the point that I tried to trap Gamma and pretty openly told him I FoS'd him early on. In the end it was just a neighbourhood v0v

[KidAmn]

The same reason good DMs for your D&D group are hard to find. It's exhausting.