Mini 2091: The Purge - Game Over!

[Iconeum]

Vla weekends

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18 pages over the course of the weekend

seems like my kind of game

what did I miss?

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18 pages, give me some time

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Catchup wall

Spoiler:

4 pages overnight isn't bad.

VOTE: Icon

He knows why.

Please don't

4 pages overnight isn't bad.

Dare I call it slow?

VOTE: Icon

He knows why.

Oh boy, here we go.

Please don't

Like w/e I don’t really give a shit if you kill each other at night, but can you give your top scum reads for now so that I have something to go off when your cold, dead corpses are heating up in the morning sunlight

I like the tone in this post, and the subtle attempt at gaining information

Like w/e I don’t really give a shit if you kill each other at night, but can you give your top scum reads for now so that I have something to go off when your cold, dead corpses are heating up in the morning sunlight

This pings me. Like the not caring if 2 people you are calling town kill each other, and asking who they scum read so you can push their reads tomorrow instead of having to rely on your own scream like scum trying to bolster some bullshit tvt killings and then avoid resposibility for reads and pushes tomorrow. Mane has a high likely hood of being scum here.

I townread that post. Don't think it has scum motivation behind it. You honestly think scum wouldn't just let them go at it? The attempt to get information from their 1v1 if it comes to it reeks town. Hmm.

Hey Serene, enlightenment and tranquility are more difficult to achieve when one is full of negative thoughts :^)

I dont remember you poking bears as much in that game as you are in this game.

When'd you grow balls?

I saw the same thing, Carl is more shitposting then scumhunting. I'd be up for a Carl Strand.

Pagetop

Yeah scum don't draw this kind of attention to themselves risking the policy bullet

Wanna bet all the scum is on that hot garbage Edguf wagon?

I'm going to shoot you Menalque. I don't care what your alignment is.

This is pure policy, right? Do you actually scumread Menalque?

TOWNZES I DONT KILLZ TONITE

I do like

Gandalf

's TD vote.

Expresso

is town.

Delta

isn't scumhunting but is town for his failstrategy.

Tucker Carlson

is town.

Hectic

rubs me the wrong way, but I like his defense of Edguf. He saw the same thing I did, and spoke up.

THE SCUMZ IZ INSIDE DIS

TD

= trolling the game like a good little scum, keeping a low profile so as not to attract attention. I confess to an astronomy boner for his avi.

Tet

wants to shoot everything that moves and that makes him town.

Formerfish

, is he scumhunting? I'm not sure what he's doing.

Oversoul

is dicking around posting tons of nothing, avoiding game state and controversy. And probably ropes and bullets if he can help it. He seems to know he'll get caught quickly: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11143114

Iconium

= how f*cking convenient. The game started Thursday and this scrotal scumbag makes one post "VLA weekends." Someone better shoot that. I'm gunning for Menalque and his goddam pagetops.

PAGETOP PLAGUE QUARANTINZ

Menalque

Disagree with townreading Carl. Disagree with scumreading FF. I'd switch those around.
Do you think my weekend VLA is AI? For the record, this game didn't actually start until

Saturday

. If it started on Thursday there'd probably be 5-10 more pages already

Menalque's

town

- good contributions and obsession with

pagetopping

is good.

Carl's

town

- self explanatory

I can see Serene being scum - but only with me, town otherwise, so only a slight scumlean

Tet hasn't explained any reads yet, and most of their posts are setup-related or

JK Rowls

. Also, that last post of theirs is just a bit slightly kind of LAMIST.

VOTE: VOTE: Vote: Tet

Persivul:

All good if I use the vote tags?

You use pagetopping as the reason to townread Menalque? Of all possible things? Sure you mention 'good contributions' but you emphasize the pagetopping over it. Cool.

Why are y'all townreading Carl here?

WTF scumslip much? No townie posts it like that, you'd just come to the conclusion that it's town.
Your Tet scumread is also pretty weak.

I can see Serene being scum -

but only with me

, town otherwise, so only a slight scumlean

Huh?

Uhhhh...

little

bit of a scumslip there. Disregard that

immediately

please.

No, but I should probably clarify that was a joke before it wastes too much discussion.

It was a joke? Really? Your initial reaction is the correct one, 'oh shit did i just post that'?
Dismissing it right then as a

joke

is terrible.

Uhhh for totally unrelated reasons to anything happening anywhere else I swear, I townread Hectic.

You know, you 2 should probably consult in the PT about how you are going to handle this situation.

VOTE: Hectic

don't worry this is very likely the only wall i'll make this game

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FF, how serious are you taking this game?

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Can someone explain to me in easy to follow babysteps what I have to do for that 'gamebreaking' plan to work?
Is it viable?

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FF, how serious are you taking this game?

Very... why do you ask? Have I given an impression that Im not taking something seriously? And even if i am trying to throw a little whimsy into my posting is that AI from what you know of me?

Like you of all people should know exactly what I'm about here on d1

. Are you just tilted?

I liked the wall from you, it made sense. That worries me a bit because you didnt make sense in our last game and you got pocketed by scum and pushed all bad wagons

, so this feels more like you could be scum because you have too mcuh info.

Right back at you. You came into that game guns blazing, pushing everything and everyone relentlessly. I don't feel that here.
You are way more relaxed and 'sitting back'.

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I liked the wall from you, it made sense. That worries me a bit because you didnt make sense in our last game and

So you think it's scummy for me to make sense?

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I have a bad habit of making poor jokes which can be interpreted as scumslips - I invite you to look at the start of my previous games if you want some good examples.

I missed this post...

Hectic are you actually trying to make it look like that slip was a joke for real?

[Iconeum]

Uhhhh... little bit of a scumslip there. Disregard that immediately please.

This isn't someone trying to say they made a joke

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FF, how serious are you taking this game?

Very... why do you ask? Have I given an impression that Im not taking something seriously? And even if i am trying to throw a little whimsy into my posting is that AI from what you know of me? Like you of all people should know exactly what I'm about here on d1. Are you just tilted?

I liked the wall from you, it made sense. That worries me a bit because you didnt make sense in our last game and you got pocketed by scum and pushed all bad wagons, so this feels more like you could be scum because you have too mcuh info.

Saudude had 1 game with me where I had bad reads, and he has treated every game together since then as me being terrible.
Please don't be Saudude and don't base me off of one game

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Iconeum, you had the exact same reaction I did to Hectic's posts about the "slip" yet you suspect me?

Only we didn't have the same reaction? I hard scumread Hectic for it, and push it, where you are sitting the fence. Big difference.

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ebwop: idk Hectic says it's a joke but I'm not sure I buy it.but also don't know why mafia would do that so...

This is a completely different take on the Hectic slot then I'm doing. Don't misrep the situation into saying we are being similar and that I have to townread you for it

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I get you not buying my sudden townread and I regret that I can't explain it but hopefully you can figure this one out on your own and see what I'm seeing.

I don't care about this. I'm judging actions and play from this game. You feel like trying to help cover up a scumslip

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Uhhhh... little bit of a scumslip there. Disregard that immediately please.

This isn't someone trying to say they made a joke

Carl, look at this and tell me this was intended as a joke?

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Yeah, I do, because I actually did the assigned readings of his past games. It's clear you didn't so I'm going to wait until you do.

I get you not buying my sudden townread and I regret that I can't explain it but hopefully you can figure this one out on your own and see what I'm seeing.

I don't care about this. I'm judging actions and play from this game. You feel like trying to help cover up a scumslip

Why is your entire read on me based on me "shitposting" more often this game than in 1942 if you're only judging actions and play from this game?

I'm not going to meta. I rarely do that. If I have previous game experience with players that obviously helps in forming reads, which is why I use that with you.

With what I just said these previous posts, do you think my 'entire read' is only based on your posting style?

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I had literally the same reaction you did except I stopped to think that mafia would probably filter himself more than Hectic did

He didn't filter, and afterwards he realized he messed up and tries to cover it up. First by saying 'mistake, just ignore', but then trying to twist it into a

deliberate

joke is what is off here.

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We can continue this discussion once Hectic flips scum

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He's literally done it before

fine, link me the game?

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Not doing your homework for you

Ok, so I just meta'd him. It's not there. You are eating rope after Hectic.

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Going to bed
VOTE: Iconeum

juicy

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are you guys for real

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I can see Serene being scum -

but only with me

, town otherwise, so only a slight scumlean

Huh?

Uhhhh...

little

bit of a scumslip there. Disregard that

immediately

please.

No, but I should probably clarify that was a joke before it wastes too much discussion.

This was part of the joke.

Agree with Egfuj that Icon's reaction isn't

weird

, and their reluctance to look into past games isn't scum!Icon who doesn't want to admit their scumread is wrong.

Curious

about 477 though, and the fact they're trying to use "Uhhhh...

little

bit of a scumslip there. Disregard that

immediately

please.." as a reason for scumreading me, thought it was kinda clear that was sarcasm (but it's not always obvious over text). I don't think my "scumslips" are town-indicative as Gandalf says though, I'd

probably

do them as scum as well.

This is the entire thing. It wasn't intended as a joke. If it was a joke, he would come out saying it was a joke after some pressure for the joke slip. He didn't. He calls it a little scumslip himself and asks to dismiss it.

It's not until later that he tries to twist it as a joke.

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Meh, I can't force anyone to scumread it but I am surprised that you TOWNREAD him for it

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I mean, icon has a fair-to-decent chance of being scum but I don’t get why we’re trying to strand that when we have egduf who has an

excellent

chance of being scum

I’ll case if I have to, but honestly it would be a lot easier if you could all just sheep me/read her ISO and just vote there

what's up with egduf?

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I agree with Carl. I think Hectic’s “scum slip” is the Towniest thing he’s done so far. It’s moved him up to a town read for me. I don’t think Icon’s reaction is scummy though, deliberately playing scummy as Town for a joke is a weird move, and being suspicious of that is fine.

Why is Hectic doing hilarious scumslip comedy to entertain us all, a particularly more townie thing to do than all his other posts - particularly as he does this as part of his playstyle? I cant see how that could have really infuenced your view on him one way or the other?

Yeah i'd love an explanation for why it's a TOWN thing to do as well.

[Iconeum]

Hi everyone!
I noticed that last game 6 townies died, most of which announced they were going to shoot rather than barricade during the night, let’s try and avoid that mistake.

I mean, icon has a fair-to-decent chance of being scum but I don’t get why we’re trying to strand that when we have egduf who has an

excellent

chance of being scum

I’ll case if I have to, but honestly it would be a lot easier if you could all just sheep me/read her ISO and just vote there

you scumreading me for my push on Hectic?

[Iconeum]

oops ignore that first quote, was starting reading egduf ISO

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Also I think the entire lack of reaction to my push comes more from scum hoping it’ll blow over than from town, especially after I explicitly asked her about it and she ignored it

'your push' being the first couple of posts from eg?

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That, your catch up wall, and PoE

It's easy calling something scum, but let's talk about what you think makes me scum in my catch up

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Hi everyone!
I noticed that last game 6 townies died, most of which announced they were going to shoot rather than barricade during the night, let’s try and avoid that mistake.

6 townies died in the first night I mean.

So, with the exception of the newb tell, we have a player that comes forth with information on why and how town got crushed in a previous run of this game. I'm having trouble seeing the scum motivation for these posts?

[Iconeum]

Hectic is scum beyond belief between this bull crap, the scum slip, and the naked OMGUSing

it's a bit more then just the OMGUS, Hectic

[Iconeum]

Also, AtE can be faked but it's either faked or real. There are no levels of fakeness, if that makes sense. The way you call it out as a scumlean for 'slightly' faking it is more nonsense from you.

You don't even wanna commit to that read because you are probably afraid of taking lead as scum

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There's a reason I made it a point in my wiki to tell people not to do that.

You don't have a wiki?

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I've just about had it with people trying to intentionally piss me off


I specifically told you not to do that, you're just doing it to provoke a reaction so you can cry about it

While there's plenty of reasons to be pushing Hectic, I don't think him saying 'i think it might be faked' is that bad actually.
Emotions are a big part of the game, and i've seen plenty games with faked AtE to consider it.

I don't think it's faked, but I can see where he's coming from.

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It’s more than those posts?

Not according to Menalque it's not

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HATE: Being called "kurbio" or asking if the name comes from Yu-Gi-Oh. NO IT DOESN'T IT'S FROM MARIO 3 AND SPELL IT RIGHT DAMN YOUR SOUL.

LOVE: Giving long winded speeches at the time of hammering. Especially ones which imply damning the victim's soul to eternal hell, reciting the Lord's Prayer in reverse Latin, and praising Satan.

These, and especially the latter one, deserve to be placed here

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I've been on this Fucking site for twelve years and if you think for two seconds that I need to fake anger shen some shitfucker calls me names; then you need to replace the captain of your brain ship cause he drunk

why are you letting scum push your buttons tho?

[Iconeum]

So I'm being scumread by people because of my catch up, and how strange it was build up

But I'm also being townread because of my catch up, and how well it was build up

[Iconeum]

That, your catch up wall, and PoE

I felt like you were actively trying to townread me in your wall, icon, rather than reading me and gradually coming to that conclusion

That makes me feel like you're maybe trying to get me off your back as you were close to being in my SRs through PoE

I have no reason for 'actively' reading someone as town
When I catch up I read the game, I Multi-quote whatever interests/pings me and stuff I wanna talk about. Then I reply to everything in order. So yes, my mind was probably made up at the time of actually writing it because I already read everyting prior to responding.

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VOTE: ICONEUM

talk to me?

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and have you played with me before?

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I'm thinking Delta and Hectic could be Scum, plus someone who is being quiet.

So you are together with me on Hectic scumread

18 pages over the course of the weekend

seems like my kind of game

what did I miss?

Whats insights do you have to offer then Icon? As you say, lots to catch up on...

And I did, most of which you never responded?

I agree with Carl. I think Hectic’s “scum slip” is the Towniest thing he’s done so far. It’s moved him up to a town read for me. I don’t think Icon’s reaction is scummy though, deliberately playing scummy as Town for a joke is a weird move, and being suspicious of that is fine.

Why is Hectic doing hilarious scumslip comedy to entertain us all, a particularly more townie thing to do than all his other posts - particularly as he does this as part of his playstyle? I cant see how that could have really infuenced your view on him one way or the other?

You are seeing the same things I'm seeing, and you end up scumreading me for it?

In 608 you have me as possible scum despite being pretty much on the same reads as I am, without ever talking to me or discussing reads or stuff. How are you coming to a scumread on me?
Even worse, how did HECTIC become a TOWNREAD in this post?

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Nah, I'm the easy wagon to push for scum, and the fact so many are latching onto that "scumslip" and the OMGUS votes after the Iconeum wagon had formed does make me a lot more suspicious of him.

His early suspicion of me was perfectly warranted in my eyes, but the fact he researched my meta and came back with

Ok, so I just meta'd him. It's not there. You are eating rope after Hectic.

does sound like someone who doesn't want to admit they're wrong. Also this:

Uhhhh...

little

bit of a scumslip there. Disregard that

immediately

please.

This isn't someone trying to say they made a joke

What about that doesn't sound like I'm playing into the joke? Icon's unrealistically just not getting it and pushing me for self-preservation.

VOTE: Iconeum

I literally looked up your previous game, read your ISO, and didn't see anything of the likes, as opposed to what was being said in game. I still strongly scumread your slip, and if you are alive after my death i'm confident this will be reinvestigated.

There is a big difference between 'unrealistic' and 'pushing caught scum'.

Me 'not wanting to admit i'm wrong' is 100% correct BECAUSE I'M NOT WRONG
And yes I do definitely NOT read that part as a joke

You messed up and you are gonna eat a bullet for it

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And i'm not even pushing your post for OMGUS, which is basicly is. You just didn't have the balls to counter me until after others took the lead. Talk about an 'easy' target huh

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We have two factions gaining traction right now--one faction suspects Hectic, the other Iconeum. Some (like me) have interrelated reads on this issue, most (like Most Serene, and maybe Gandalf here?) have independent reads that Hectic and Iconeum are different alignments.

I sense there's something significant to this but I'm running out of steam to figure it out tonight. Someone ping me tomorrow if I forget and I'll dig into it. At a glance I expect the following to be true:
(1) There's at most one mafia between them;
(2) If one is mafia, his partners will be in his detractors more than his supporters.
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(1) is easy enough, I just don't think they're busing. Mafia Hectic doesn't deliberately scumslip for mafia Iconeum to then call out and press, and mafia Iconeum has no real reason to be invested in showing the world that his partner slipped when I gave him plenty of room to say "oh yeah you're right, meta that's difficult to discuss right now clearly shows he is NOT guilty, good job Carl" and back off of it with plausible deniability if Hectic got burned later.
(2) If you accept that (1) is true and accept the premise of (2) (that there is a mafia here), the mafia's partners know that they'll be taking a lot of heat when we find the mafia between them, if the mafia are caught out supporting their guy (whether they be supporting scum Hectic in the wake of a scumslip or scum Iconeum for pushing a fake scumslip unreasonably hard). The safe spot for mafia to be right now is softly against their guy, probably not voting him but certainly naming him as a suspect.

Sorry that's so generalized, I plan to look through the two factions tomorrow and come up with something more actionable.

Did you really need to write all of this to come to the conclusion that Hectic and I are not in a faction? Holy smokes Batman...

Instead you guys should be figuring out how it's possible people are scumreading me for my catch-up wall, but at the same time people are townreading me for the very same reasons and they aren't pushing each other over it...

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Gandalf's town for BBCoding and opposition and genuine lack of understanding of Delta's strat.

How can anyone even townread Gandalf slot? His progressional read on me doesn't make sense.

You don't end up scumreading somebody you largely share your reads with

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Uhhhh...

little

bit of a scumslip there. Disregard that

immediately

please.

No, but I should probably clarify that was a joke before it wastes too much discussion.

So with this, you think I'm openly

admitting

I've just scumslipped and hoping everyone will listen to me and

disregard

it, and then in the same post I'm going on to try and say it was a joke? I refuse to believe that's what you've actually drawn from this, you're scum who's

reaching

.

You have to have

some

kind of reaction. Dismissing it as a joke is by far the easiest to get away with. This is what I've actually drawn from it.

Also, have you bothered going back to reading what I said on Gandalf? You bring up a good point why it could be town, but have you considered it's progression on scumreading me?

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Gandalf's town because I don't see a lone scum going openly against Delta's strat in the hopes to shut it down, it's a townie who doesn't understand the merits of it. Also, disagreeing with a widely well-received strat like that puts the spotlight on you if you're scum, so I don't see newbie!scum doing that.

So if there is a game-breaking strat being presented, you think scum is just gonna sit back and watch their world start burning? Or are they maybe gonna try and intervene?

For the record, I think what he did comes from town more then scum, but it's not that far fetched for scum.

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I mean I could be wrong on Hectic, but this is not something I ever let go. If I still have my gun I am shooting there 100% of the time this night.

Why the fuck would I be pushing you this hard, as scum? To get you stranded? Who cares?

[Iconeum]

fucking hell why am i no longer being warned about being fastposted by this site?

[Iconeum]

Ico we could be like the boondock saints.

i see

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Yeah, I do find Gandalf's

flip

on me really weird actually. But that's

only

a scummy thing for him to do if I'm scum with him - so only a scumlean for now.

i'm talking about how he got to scumread me. he has no reason to do so. his reads are also basicly the same as mine. yet i'm scum in his eyes.

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Tet:

What I mean is scum is afraid of

scum&Icon

being stranded and killed, so they need to push someone else, I'm an

easy

target because of the points I mentioned, and which a couple of people already suspected me for.

First off, as scum I would be worried about being stranded sure. But you are now trying to paint this picture as if I'm trying to get away from being stranded by diverting it onto you. MISREP.

I started pushing you first, and i'm taking a hell lot of flak for it. Don't turn this around bro

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Tet:

What I mean is scum is afraid of

scum&Icon

being stranded and killed, so they need to push someone else, I'm an

easy

target because of the points I mentioned, and which a couple of people already suspected me for.

This is such a fucking scum post. YOU ARE TRYING TO REDIRECT THE LYNCH ONTO ME, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND

[Iconeum]

Here's my case on Gandalf, again.

Spoiler:

I'm thinking Delta and Hectic could be Scum, plus someone who is being quiet.

So you are together with me on Hectic scumread

18 pages over the course of the weekend

seems like my kind of game

what did I miss?

Whats insights do you have to offer then Icon? As you say, lots to catch up on...

And I did, most of which you never responded?

I agree with Carl. I think Hectic’s “scum slip” is the Towniest thing he’s done so far. It’s moved him up to a town read for me. I don’t think Icon’s reaction is scummy though, deliberately playing scummy as Town for a joke is a weird move, and being suspicious of that is fine.

Why is Hectic doing hilarious scumslip comedy to entertain us all, a particularly more townie thing to do than all his other posts - particularly as he does this as part of his playstyle? I cant see how that could have really infuenced your view on him one way or the other?

You are seeing the same things I'm seeing, and you end up scumreading me for it?

In 608 you have me as possible scum despite being pretty much on the same reads as I am, without ever talking to me or discussing reads or stuff. How are you coming to a scumread on me?
Even worse, how did HECTIC become a TOWNREAD in this post?

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Yeah, I do find Gandalf's

flip

on me really weird actually. But that's

only

a scummy thing for him to do if I'm scum with him - so only a scumlean for now.

i'm talking about how he got to scumread me. he has no reason to do so. his reads are also basicly the same as mine. yet i'm scum in his eyes.

He agreed with you on me, which he's now

changed

his mind on, so I don't see why the progression of that read is

particularly

weird?

Gandalf scumleans you, is actively working to dismiss you calling your slip a joke, agrees with my read on you, but ends up scumreading and voting ME, and townreading YOU

That's not a town mindset

[Iconeum]

I'm gonna cry if this is TvT with gandalf the laughing scum

[Iconeum]

haha got a pagetop finally

[Iconeum]

Lul, that's a good point. It's probably a subconscious effect of now being townread by him, but why would

scum$Gandalf

flip off one town wagon onto another, why does that benefit him?

It doesn't benefit him, it's a mistake on his part.

[Iconeum]

People always (including me) go on about 'optimal moves' for scum, and 'why would they do this or that as scum', when in reality they just make mistakes because they have to fake reads and progression.

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Gandalf

care to explain your vote and reads?

[Iconeum]

icon and most serene cross shoot each other

i'm not shooting most serene

[Iconeum]

part of my attack on him is some selfishness of not wanting to die

i don't really care about dying, but i do want my gun tonight

[Iconeum]

Cause I’m just that good

fail?

[Iconeum]

I mean I can explain that solve but really, it would be better if you could all observe my 100% winrate and just sheep me

why would you have me shoot most serene, of all players?

[Iconeum]

Based on who fucked up the gamestate when it was all ticking along nicely

where did most serene fuck it up according to you?

[Iconeum]

also, disagree that gamestate is 'fucked up'

[Iconeum]

Pagetop

[Iconeum]

If any of you think that you can control my gun target this night ur wrong. I'm not barricading, and i'm most likely shooting Gandalf.

If ya'll wanna strand me go ahead, i'm dying either way tonight

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Egduf

blatant sheep to have a chance at using my gun tonight

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If any of you think that you can control my gun target this night ur wrong. I'm not barricading, and i'm most likely shooting Gandalf.

If ya'll wanna strand me go ahead, i'm dying either way tonight

If you're not gonna play ball and shoot Hectic then

Intent on Iconeum.

You can stop this by:
(1) explaining why you no longer scumread Hectic (or at least scumread Hectic more); and
(2) giving me a plausible narrative for the world where neither you nor Hectic is scum.

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This reminds me, how should we handle mason claims? I don't want to strand a mason but I also think it's probably terrible to have them out to prevent a stranding since that outs someone else for the strongman.
I'd be stunned if Iconeum is a mason so hopefully it never matters, but masons are the only people whose stranding should worry us so I'd like to figure out an answer. Hopefully they're just in the town piles so it won't matter.

Have you read the past couple pages? The 1v1 with Hectic and me ended in, let's call it a draw.
You think you can threaten me with that intent? If you think I'm scum, shoot me. If you think Hectic is scum, shoot him. This game is as easy as that. Stranding isn't even close to the value a lynch gives.

I'm just gonna be salty if I'm stranded

[Iconeum]

Why would I stay on Hectic if

1)it gets me stranded
2)it's not going to get him stranded

Our 1v1 should guarantee our slots will be sorted come morning anyway, there's little point in wasting more time there

[Iconeum]

The point is that your read appears to change, and you appear to believe Hectic is town. Is this correct?

My tunnel on him is gone. I still kinda scumread him for it, but i'm much less sure about it. Let's say I can now see a world where he is actually town. Especially with the short deadline I dont see it as productive to keep pushing a single slip, when there isn't general support for it. I literally can't do or say anything more to push him then I already had.
What's worse is that I'm being scumread for my push (which happens to me nearly every game). So yeah I don't see much benefit in keeping that up.

[Iconeum]

And how do you think that is a usefull vote, 20 hours from deadline?
With not a single word to back it up or convince others?

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Hectic

Hello?

[Iconeum]

Wow. Iconeum has 76 posts and I don’t think I’ve read a single one of them

Why is everyone in this game scummy. I think it’s weird that Icon hard scum read Hectic but never actually voted him according to VCs. I also think his point against Hectic is so bad.

I do like his point about Gandalf though.

wtf did i just read

[Iconeum]

don't mind the quotes, i'm not even talking about them

[Iconeum]

feed the murdercock

i hope i will someday understand this

[Iconeum]

best pagetop ever btw

[Iconeum]

Now we can only hope Carl and his cohorts lose tonight's game of nightkill WIFOM. A second dead scum would be lovely, but four dead town or a dead mason would hurt us considerably.

FF, Ico, and the masons should barricade.

I'm taking the shot on Carl, leaving me the only guaranteed safe option for scum to shoot

It's good that we have 1 shot on him, but I

really

didn't sign up to this game to

barricade

… let me think about it

[Iconeum]

The only people who should always barricade are the masons. If you're not, you can choose to risk yourself, but every shot we take is one more chance at accidentally killing a mason.

Very well I will leave it undecided in here what I will do

Consider it a 50/50 barricade/RIP GANDALF

[Iconeum]

I think you should all shoot yourselves

Good night and get tucked

[Iconeum]

feed the murdercock

i hope i will someday understand this

[Iconeum]

oh

[Iconeum]

So basicly

Blood for the Blood God

gottit

[Iconeum]

so you guys are just gonna gamethrow huh

[Iconeum]

via Imgflip Meme Generator

[Iconeum]

I'm the real mason

everyone is shooting in Gandalf/Ico

gg

[Iconeum]

There is no way Gandalf is not getting shot tonight

[Iconeum]

Sweet

Dibs shooting icon

Fancy slaying a dragon, are we?

[Iconeum]

Can we change the order so I get to shoot icon?

I really wanna shoot icon tho

Icon if you concede here and we don’t get to shoot you I will be v disappointed

Sweet

Dibs shooting icon

Who though

[Iconeum]

why*

[Iconeum]

This game is over but we can do this while we wait

i'm not the scum, and you don't believe this yourself. you know gandalf is the scum

[Iconeum]

The readslist bit is about my readslist where I have you as #1 scum and Gandalf in my TRs

You can check out the pt after the game yourself. It's all right there.
Our strategy was to both be alive D2. Hard distancing so scum didn't catch on, and pocketing a player each to misdirect scum.

[Iconeum]

Shooting icon*

you can do whatever the fuck you want as long as there's at least 1 gun on gandalf

i'm not allowing a gamethrow here

[Iconeum]

So:

Hectic shoots Egduf
Egduf shoots Menalque
Menalque shoots Tet
Tet shoots Oversoul
Oversoul shoots TiphaineDeath
TiphaineDeath shoots Iconeum
Iconeum shoots Hectic

Gandalf barricades

Everyone good with that?

This ends in a draw no?

this literally ends in a loss for town

[Iconeum]

you wanna know how i feel about that?

[Iconeum]

it's not important

i'm just happy i got here in time before you lost this game to opportunistic scum

a win is a win to me

[Iconeum]

So:

Hectic shoots Egduf
Egduf shoots Menalque
Menalque shoots Tet
Tet shoots Oversoul
Oversoul shoots TiphaineDeath
TiphaineDeath shoots Iconeum
Iconeum shoots Hectic

Gandalf barricades

Everyone good with that?

This ends in a draw no?

this literally ends in a loss for town

for what it's worth, I would have shot Gandalf. Hectic survives, and we still win. But following that plan to the letter is bad, mkay

[Iconeum]

i've seen crazier things happen in my life, and nobody was even considering the fact that it could be a fake claim

[Iconeum]

I am glad you haven’t conceded tho, because I am gonna termínate you with

extreme

prejudice

actually clueless lol

[Iconeum]

nice write up

[Iconeum]

I regret nothing, please release the scum PT in it's full glory

[Iconeum]

I'm sad Carl's gambit didn't pay off.

So close

[Iconeum]

This was fun, but I don’t like that it can be auto after 1 night (or more or less auto if there’s more than 1 scum left)

I’d definitely be interested in playing again if there’s a way to get around that design-wise

You mean 'wow this game went to D2'

[Iconeum]

Once released, the mafia pt should provide an entertaining read

here's a

small

preview

[Iconeum]

My god icon, that mafia thread killed me— both in a getting shot sense, but also those memes were hilarious

the one where i hit the wall is now broken for me, is it for you?

[Iconeum]

So yeah in short, I knew very well what I was getting into when I counterclaimed

[Iconeum]

I loved how Tet got himself killed as well

Just a few more wild shots away from pulling this off...

[Iconeum]

Well, that's one of the reasons why I didn't concede. You just never know.

And i'm serious when I say don't trust town to do the townie things

[Iconeum]

@percivul

, /pre in me for your next run of this please

What if strongman obtains the ability to barricade when last surviving scum?

[Iconeum]

also I can't believe the entire mafia team was 1942

i thought i was being rolled