mini 2093, the search - an interminable period of darkness.

[Baezu Leaf]

Wow I expected this game to make me hate myself but I didn't expect it to make me hate myself this much

Scum caught

Game over

VOTE: Angles

[Baezu Leaf]

Now if the scum really wanted to start some gambling, what they should do is whichever one of them has an alternate wincon that can be fulfilled post-lynch, they should claim scum, claim their alternate wincon, and we'll see if we can't get their alternate wincon done after we lynch them. Sure they get lynched but they don't need to be alive to fulfill their alternate wincon. Right? This sounds like a good plan for the scum, they should take us up on it.

-Chanel

I think only scum would think this way

[Baezu Leaf]

Y’all are going to have a hard time distinguishing us then.

This was my first post. I’m VLA for a few days, but I’ll be in and out.

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

Side note, I’ve met Baezu in real life, and she brought an edible that I ate, so she mainly only has seen stoned Flavor irl, which makes our hydra fitting.

[Baezu Leaf]

A Boon vote is always a good vote.

Agreed
VOTE: 123456789

I actually scum read this; I feel townDeb would have piled on to the wagon on me, however me thinking it’s scum indicative probably means he’s town.

[Baezu Leaf]

Try past half decade

[Baezu Leaf]

However probably deservedly.

I once attempted convincing DEB irl that one of our friends didn’t exist, and that everything he thought happened with the other guy was just me. I had assistance of course.

I had him start to doubt himself.

[Baezu Leaf]

I feel townDeb would have piled on to the wagon on me

You didn't have a wagon, nothing to pile onto?
/R

Semantics. Wagon was poor word choice, I guess.

[Baezu Leaf]

FOS: Channel

[Baezu Leaf]

Town:
DEB

Likely town:
Pine
Pengiiiiiiiii

Likely Scum: Acute Right Obtuse

1000% confscum: Baezu Leaf

Other people: other things

-Chanel

Woohoo! Once again, I get my own tier!!!

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Flavor Leaf is being a naughty boy and needs his punishment

-Chanel

Of the two of us, I’m the only naughty one here!

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

A Boon vote is always a good vote.

Agreed
VOTE: 123456789

I actually scum read this; I feel townDeb would have piled on to the wagon on me, however me thinking it’s scum indicative probably means he’s town.

I think you should go with your gut! If you think it’s scum indicative, it probably means he’s scum

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Yeah that was a scummy reaction lol

-chanel

I don’t think it was scummy...

UNVOTE:

[Baezu Leaf]

Hnmmm VOTE: Skitter

Why this vote?

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Skitter town

VOTE: ARO

Pine isgut but I hated his happy vote comment. That also seemed easy

Why this vote?

[Baezu Leaf]

VOTE: fireball your post have just been rubbing me the wrong way

FWIW I think both channel fireball and the triple hydra are town

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

VOTE: 123456789 what a name lol

Oh this is like another example ^^^

@gobble why am i town now?

Skitter is town

[Baezu Leaf]

This doesnt feel like a tvt interaction

Honestly it does feel like a tvt interaction to me.

Chen is just upset and channel just reads town to me

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Oh i think i just realized something

What did you just realize?

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

The only thing I don’t like about the channel/ARO thing is the fact that’s its clogging up the thread...I’d like to hear from more people.....

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

I think holding my tell has generated enough results in regards to reaction and won't produce anything new, so I might as well share it with the rest of the playerlist.

In the majority of games that chennis has played as town, his typing style is fairly loose. "this is how chennis would type most of his sentences". It is fairly congruent with his stream-of-consciousness style of posting, with no regards to grammar. Notice in particular that his sentences, more often than not, start with a lowercase letter.

On the contrary, in Gay Dance, all of his posts were written starting with an uppercase and fairly well written. My style of posting would be comparable to Chennis' Gay Dance game, for example. It's a subconscious tell when people try to get taken more seriously, such as people try to show a professional facade when applying for jobs. This is fairly telling when it comes to mafia, as it indicates that Chennis as town does not necessarily desire to be taken seriously, but very much does so when playing as scum, hence the clean posting style, and the incongruence between stating he does not care about this game, and vehemently arguing against my reason for voting him.

You may think it is completely absurd, but this is the kind of thing that people do on a subconscious level that gives them away textually. It is akin to someone smiling when they are lying in face-to-face mafia, for example. This is why it is quite a serious scumtell in my eyes.

Are you Dr Worm?!

[Baezu Leaf]

btw the worst person on my wagon rn is gobble

Please explain your wincondition

Agreed

[Baezu Leaf]

Please explain your wincondition

For all the mafia to be dead

Lmao

[Baezu Leaf]

Elements is townie, i think

Maybe numbers too

Anyonw wanna wagon cyrus with me?

I’d honestly rather go gobbledygook

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

hey skitter, fireball, why don't you stop tvting

Right?!

Or is it obtuse

[Baezu Leaf]

This is saying something because I love math.
VOTE: ARO

Ok so DEB is definitely scum

[Baezu Leaf]

acute i hate the color thing ok its makeing the game harder to read

Do you have any reads? Anyone you think is town? Scum? Anything that pings you as scum?

+1

[Baezu Leaf]

gobble can u start playing the game in good faith

u should also be aware that i dont vote as either alignment gobble and i know you're trying to bait me to vote you so you can use it later on.

nah, i'm not doing that.

Chen is right- he doesn’t vote early

Make a different case on him or vote elsewhere

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Catchup over

baezu out

[Baezu Leaf]

Given that I know there is a Priest in this town, your claim of being bulletproof sounds rather up there as well.

- Fireball.

Role names don't necessarily indicate the roles ability

If a Priest has anything else than a "heal" ability in a game of mafia I will eat my shoe and invite your for a ceremony where I do it in front of you.

- Fireball.

Can you eat alchemist’s shoe instead?

[Baezu Leaf]

Anyone for a DEB wagon?

[Baezu Leaf]

Also for melanque who hasn’t read the thread,
right now I think that the scummiest players are gobble and Deb and the
others are

Town

[Baezu Leaf]

VOTE: DEB

Come out and play!!!

Where’s the DEB we know and love?

[Baezu Leaf]

Anyone gonna get on that new classic wow Vanilla hype?

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

Wow remaster basically. I don’t think im gonna play, though. He wants me to heal as shaman, but I’m kind of a shadow priest guy. He tankin.

I never liked wow, though.

I’m vamping because i haven’t caught up

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

Pine do you normally play this stilted?

What do you mean by this?

[Baezu Leaf]

Not one of the listed colors

Lmao

[Baezu Leaf]

What role is that?

Outlaw.

Since we had a vigshot, I assumed taking care of that situation later that night and instead focusing on scumhunting would be useful but I guess we got screwed by game balance and we honestly grew apathetic of this game, since we know that this outlaw is probably town and has an IC-like ability. So you know.

- Fireball.

Interesting, because we think he might be prophet

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

It doesn't matter much anymore. EP was right and we are not going to win this game unless town collectively agrees to help us in our cause, which they won't do because this game is inherently designed so that does not happen. We have no interest in this game anymore, I suppose. It doesn't matter.

pedit: We tried to vig ARO last night. Nothing happened. We need to take them out by being on their lynch or shooting them, and we failed at shooting them. We know they have the power to reveal their alignment and their role, so unless this is a mafia role that has the ability to do something as soon as they reveal, it is much more likely that they are an IC. So my hydra partner and I grew seriously apathetic of this game when we realized it was heavily unlikely for us to win this game.

We also have a rolecop ability, which is why we can accurately say someone is a Priest this game. Not that it matters either. We just lost by game design.

- Fireball.

So you KNOW ARO is outlaw? Or did they give you some indication that they are outlaw?

[Baezu Leaf]

I honestly have no answer Penguin. I was just frustrated at the time that our only vigshot somehow got protected against. We kind of already know that we have probably no chances of winning this game, unless town wants to grant us our wincondition. We have a rolecop ability which could help town, for all that matters, so if we could perhaps bargain, that would be nice. Otherwise we have already lost this game anyway.

- Fireball.

So try to find the outlaw...if ARO actually IS the outlaw, we would gladly help lynch them

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

But you were the vig shot, right? Why would you assume there wasn't another shot (mafia) and say

with certainty

that my JK had nothing to do with no deaths last night.

yes this is also puzzling

and yes that doesn't sound like a town role really

Skitter, if CF is scum, I will eat alchemists hat

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Could you bring 123456789 to 7 votes to help with the test while we continue to discuss pls?

p-edit

I mean - we don't know that you had a vig shot since...no deaths and all.

FWIW I believe CF’s claim

[Baezu Leaf]

yeah i think this is kinda scummy

It’s not scummy skitter- he’s frustrated

[Baezu Leaf]

yeah i think this is kinda scummy

gobble and deb are scum. Possibly Menlaque.

Channel, please stop self-voting. I think both you and ARO are town.

This is how I feel too...

Can gobble, menalque, or DEB be outlaw?

[Baezu Leaf]

Well...F at least.

Is it RCEnigma?

[Baezu Leaf]

Also, 123456789 is scum, so town is welcome.

How is numbers scum again?

[Baezu Leaf]

Pine isn't a jk. Don't know what happened with your shot last night.

Let me get this straight- both a vig shot AND a mafia kill got blocked last night?!

[Baezu Leaf]

How about this:

I know that the outlaw can activate their power. If ARO is outlaw, they can become an IC and prove that what I say is right. It's a strict benefit for everyone.

How about we do that? Let's see who wants some free townie points.

- Fireball.

I’d like free townpoints! Pick me! Pick me!

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

I wonder if Skitter is the last buddy. I feel like if we test the “if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck” with Numbers theory that will give us information on CF’s role.

Okay, can you find associative between numbers, Cyrus and skitter?

[Baezu Leaf]

i dont' think this game has many investigatives

My ability is such that an abilities that target me at night, I get a copy of to use in the day.

Wtf?! That’s insane

[Baezu Leaf]

Only if he’s a goddamn liar

Who is this in reference to?

Also, imo this game just got hella interesting

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Done with catch up...does anyone have any questions for me?

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Pine isn't a jk. Don't know what happened with your shot last night.

Let me get this straight- both a vig shot AND a mafia kill got blocked last night?!

Supposedly.

Pengu, who would you vote if CF was conftown?

[Baezu Leaf]

Also, 123456789 is scum, so town is welcome.

How is numbers scum again?

Do you still need an answer to this after your catchup?

Nope!

[Baezu Leaf]

CF, could you plz vote someone other than yourself? Like I said, if ARO is outlaw, I will help you lynch him...

Going back to see what exactly he said...

[Baezu Leaf]

how about we all ignore the alternate wincon and count this is as a W in our hearts if town wins?

- Acute

So I really don’t like this post above ^

I'm annoyed because you're pretending to have a real reason for doing so

- Acute

I do. This is perhaps the most obvious scumtell I have seen in any game of mafia, and I am frankly quite surprised nobody pointed it out in the last scum game you played in Gay Dance. Consider yourself lucky.

- Fireball.

i'm fairly convinced YOUR alt wincon in particular is that of a lyncher, which is why i don't think your push comes in good faith.

This was what was said ^

My presence in those games is a non-relevant point of discussion, considering anyone can delve in the games you have played at any time. And if they do, they will certainly notice the same thing that I have notice, and will promptly join your wagon.

What made you think that our alt-condition is the one of a Lyncher? And what made you think that over the possibility of me being scum?

- Fireball.

your reaction also convinces me i'm right, btw

And this

So reading this with our current “knowledge” of stuff, does this come across as tvt?

[Baezu Leaf]

i guess it would make sense to make scum super loved to “balance” it against town’s powers...

I’m in

VOTE: numbers

[Baezu Leaf]

So who’s third scum Pengu?

[Baezu Leaf]

skitter: are you working under the assumption that there's probably one scum in our group of three? bc im town and i think ur town so

Who else is in your group of three?

[Baezu Leaf]

skitter: are you working under the assumption that there's probably one scum in our group of three? bc im town and i think ur town so

Who else is in your group of three?

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Sorry for non hydra post rly busy and on mobile.

Hardclaim not outlaw otherwise I would just activate my ic ability

Also am conditional BP

When you have a chance, can you explain how you knew there was a lyncher role please?

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Fire you feel kinda scummy to me

Anything in particular you want to highlight?

- Fireball.

A) i feel like ur tying cyrus to numbers (or vice versa)

B) you feel very stilted and not very natural, but i suppose that can be a product of trying to write formally, and not necessarily of your alignment

Gobbledygook used the same language as you did- stilted in regards to pine I believe...could he be your third?

[Baezu Leaf]

i actually believe that pp is a jk (or at least, had something to do with the fact that nobody died last night)

I can say with certainty that it had nothing to do with it.

- Fireball.

Saving this for later...

[Baezu Leaf]

also i think sky is scummy

Do you have any idea who, besides sky is in your group?

[Baezu Leaf]

eh fine i'll fullclaim.

i'm the True whisperer and i have to live and have the Prophet guess who i am at endgame. i know the prophet is town

I think someone claimed the Prophet, ARO

Who?

[Baezu Leaf]

Is the false whisperer mafia, ARO?

eh fine i'll fullclaim.

i'm the True whisperer and i have to live and have the Prophet guess who i am at endgame. i know the prophet is town

Ok, so we know there is a true whisperer and a false whisperer...ARO could be the false one but I’m not getting that vibe from him

[Baezu Leaf]

All of the above was bae

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Pine ~ bandit, unknown wincon
cyrus62 ~ bandit, unknown wincon; apparently different than pine's/pp's
Menalque - not outlaw
skitter30- possibly in trio with sky
Skygazer- possibly in trio with skitter
Elements ~ identify the bandits
Baezu Leaf
123456789 ~ town empress; survive to day 4; claims super loved and bp-
Dr Easy Bake- is he even in this game?
gobbledygook ~ says wincon is like impossible, not outlaw
PenguinPower ~ bandit guard thing who says that they jk'd pine; same wincon as pine's
Channel Fireball ~ outlaw with vig shot- looking for other outlaw. claimed to shoot aro, they didnt' die; claimed to have rolecopped a priest
Acute Right Obtuse ~ apparently cf's target - not outlaw. true whisperer, knows there is a false whisperer and prophet and needs prophet to ID him

[Baezu Leaf]

The most likely outlaw is DEB, followed by gobble imo

There is also a priest, a prophet and a false whisperer that need accounting for.

Can we POE the roles from this info?

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Updated list:

Pine ~ bandit, unknown wincon
cyrus62 ~ bandit, unknown wincon; apparently different than pine's/pp's
Menalque - not outlaw- (prince?)
skitter30- prophet?
Skygazer- true whisperer
Elements ~ identify the bandits (prince?)
Baezu Leaf
123456789 ~ town empress; survive to day 4; claims super loved and bp- probs scum
Dr Easy Bake- PoE outlaw- probs scum
gobbledygook ~ damsel in distress- needs to find prince
PenguinPower ~ bandit guard thing who says that they jk'd pine; same wincon as pine's
Channel Fireball ~ outlaw with vig shot- looking for other outlaw. claimed to shoot aro, they didnt' die; claimed to have rolecopped a priest
Acute Right Obtuse ~ whisperer- probs false- probs scum

[Baezu Leaf]

Seems the game was aptly named- we are all searching for something

[Baezu Leaf]

At least we have a 50/50- only one of ARO/sky is scum

[Baezu Leaf]

I had to choose a prince pregame by the way so like good luck to me if I chose scum. They have to live to endgame. My ability is to send a message after I’m dead lmao so... like fuck me I guess

Oh man, that sucks



-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

At least we have a 50/50- only one of ARO/sky is scum

Why

The way I see it, one of them has to be false and it seems like the true one knew there was a false one

[Baezu Leaf]

At least we have a 50/50- only one of ARO/sky is scum

UNVOTE: ARO

I immediately distrust this comment

Why?

Do you think they are both the true one?

[Baezu Leaf]

I think the assumption that both are scum is suspicious. There are a lot of opposed Town roles here. With a scum Neighbor, a scum survivor, and these two roles...I don’t know if it balances

That said, nothing in this game appears to balance sooo

You’ll notice I didn’t jump my vote to you...I think making that assumption is NAI, but my gut says it’s a false dichotomy

Fair enough

[Baezu Leaf]

Pine ~ bandit, unknown wincon
cyrus62 ~ bandit, unknown wincon; apparently different than pine's/pp's
Menalque - not outlaw
skitter30- possibly in trio with sky
Skygazer- possibly in trio with skitter
Elements ~ identify the bandits
Baezu Leaf
123456789 ~ town empress; survive to day 4; claims super loved and bp-
Dr Easy Bake- is he even in this game?
gobbledygook ~ says wincon is like impossible, not outlaw
PenguinPower ~ bandit guard thing who says that they jk'd pine; same wincon as pine's
Channel Fireball ~ outlaw with vig shot- looking for other outlaw. claimed to shoot aro, they didnt' die; claimed to have rolecopped a priest
Acute Right Obtuse ~ apparently cf's target - not outlaw. true whisperer, knows there is a false whisperer and prophet and needs prophet to ID him

What is this, one Night ultimate werewolf?

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

So Channel was able to do two actions in one night?

[Baezu Leaf]

So Aro or Sky should be the lynch today, no? Man, this game beats One Night Ultimate werewolf, I’ll tell you that.

I was even one of the ones that got a sneaky win in 81p One Night here.

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

Pine ~ bandit, unknown wincon
cyrus62 ~ bandit, unknown wincon; apparently different than pine's/pp's
Menalque - not outlaw
skitter30- possibly in trio with sky
Skygazer- possibly in trio with skitter
Elements ~ identify the bandits
Baezu Leaf
123456789 ~ town empress; survive to day 4; claims super loved and bp-
Dr Easy Bake- is he even in this game?
gobbledygook ~ says wincon is like impossible, not outlaw
PenguinPower ~ bandit guard thing who says that they jk'd pine; same wincon as pine's
Channel Fireball ~ outlaw with vig shot- looking for other outlaw. claimed to shoot aro, they didnt' die; claimed to have rolecopped a priest
Acute Right Obtuse ~ apparently cf's target - not outlaw. true whisperer, knows there is a false whisperer and prophet and needs prophet to ID him

What is this, one Night ultimate werewolf?

~FL

Yes and I’m Vorky!

[Baezu Leaf]

^bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Wait, he’s a survivor Day 4, why don’t we just kill him Day 4 if that’s the case.

[Baezu Leaf]

FL

[Baezu Leaf]

it should be transparently obvious skyg is lying but idk if that makes her scum.

i also can send messages but uh we forgot.

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

I’m pretty sure we can satisfy 90% of alt wincons

I think so too

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Seems it's been used. What are the conditions?

Non-mafia targeting me for a "vigshot"

So you’ve achieved your alt win con already?

Because CF targeted you for a vig kill

[Baezu Leaf]

VOTE: ARO

Wtf is that claim

i believe the whisperer part; i was informed that there are whisperers etc

i'm confused by the conditionally bp part

I think he meant conditionally BP because scum can’t shoot him

[Baezu Leaf]

bandit trio

Pine ~ bandit, unknown wincon
cyrus62 ~ bandit, unknown wincon; apparently different than pine's/pp
PenguinPower ~ bandit guard thing who says that they jk'd pine; same wincon as pine's

royal guard trio

Menalque - same as elements
Elements ~ identify the bandits
Dr Easy Bake- Probably outlaw

holy trio

skitter30- prophet
Acute Right Obtuse ~ cf's target - not outlaw. true whisperer, knows there is a false whisperer and prophet and needs prophet to ID him
baezu Leaf - priest, we crumbed our role, thought ARO was prophet so we protected them N1

”Royalty”

123456789 ~ town empress; survive to day 4; claims super loved and bp-
Skygazer- (false?) whisperer
gobbledygook ~ Damsel in distress, not sure who was picked for prince

Lone Vig

Channel Fireball ~ outlaw with vig shot- looking for other outlaw. claimed to shoot aro, they didnt' die; claimed to have rolecopped a priest


@pengu/pine- what’s your alt win con? Getting more hammers than the other one? Can you both achieve your alt win cons or are they mutually exclusive?

[Baezu Leaf]

bandit trio

Pine ~ bandit, unknown wincon
cyrus62 ~ bandit, unknown wincon; apparently different than pine's/pp
PenguinPower ~ bandit guard thing who says that they jk'd pine; same wincon as pine's

royal guard trio

Menalque - same as elements
Elements ~ identify the bandits
Dr Easy Bake- Probably outlaw

holy trio

skitter30- prophet
Acute Right Obtuse ~ cf's target - not outlaw. true whisperer, knows there is a false whisperer and prophet and needs prophet to ID him
baezu Leaf - priest, we crumbed our role, thought ARO was prophet so we protected them N1

”Royalty”

123456789 ~ town empress; survive to day 4; claims super loved and bp-
Skygazer- (false?) whisperer
gobbledygook ~ Damsel in distress, not sure who was picked for prince

Lone Vig

Channel Fireball ~ outlaw with vig shot- looking for other outlaw. claimed to shoot aro, they didnt' die; claimed to have rolecopped a priest


@pengu/pine- what’s your alt win con? Getting more hammers than the other one? Can you both achieve your alt win cons or are they mutually exclusive?

[Baezu Leaf]

VOTE: DEB

[Baezu Leaf]

We got only one protect for the game so we are essentially VT at this point

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Why are we voting an outlaw...? Don’t they take care of themselves?

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

ARO, Skitter, BL conf town.

DEB-Channel takes care of themselves, and honestly, if one of them are scum, Iran probably Channel not DEB.

I fail to see why Skygazer isn’t the obvious lynch for the day.

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

One of Menalque-Elements lock scum.

[Baezu Leaf]

One of Menalque-Elements lock scum.

Probably not both.

I refuse to believe the identify the bandits is both town unless mason like thing.

One of the bandits probably scum.

One bandit, one of Menalque/Elements, Skygazer is a strong solve.

~Fl

[Baezu Leaf]

There’s some wiggle room with Gook and the outlaws, but I don’t believe we should ever be lynching within the outlaws here.

And DEB claimed Doc Enabler well in a recent game as scum, so him not claiming is actually more town indicative

[Baezu Leaf]

Actually Channel checks out.

Probably don’t let that slot end game, though.

One scum in bandit, one scum in royalty, one scum in royal guard.

Honestly there’s something hard off with Channel. They had two actions last night?

If DEB doesn’t die tonight, you lynch Channel tomorrow, that’s how that works.

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

Why do we know numbers is scum?

[Baezu Leaf]

ARO, Skitter, BL conf town.

DEB-Channel takes care of themselves, and honestly, if one of them are scum, Iran probably Channel not DEB.

I fail to see why Skygazer isn’t the obvious lynch for the day.

~FL

Sorry, why do u think sky is scum over aro?

Aro got shot and protected.

[Baezu Leaf]

Baezu/Elements, you’ve got your group wrong

The group is Empress/Guard/Guard

The scum in it is Numbers.

Why

[Baezu Leaf]

I also thought we knew ARO was town somewhere?

[Baezu Leaf]

Baezu/Elements, you’ve got your group wrong

The group is Empress/Guard/Guard

The scum in it is Numbers.

This is already proved incorrect, isn’t it? We had a Bandit flip

[Baezu Leaf]

Actually Channel checks out.

Probably don’t let that slot end game, though.

One scum in bandit, one scum in royalty, one scum in royal guard.

Honestly there’s something hard off with Channel. They had two actions last night?

If DEB doesn’t die tonight, you lynch Channel tomorrow, that’s how that works.

~FL

Apparently, CF only had one vig shot and he used it N1 on ARO so unless DEB gets lynched, CF will not achieve their wincon

[Baezu Leaf]

In a PT? Because there’s nothing there in thread.

Also, why don’t you think that’s WIFOM? Seems like the epitome of WIFOM, and similar to what you did in a newbie game you replaced into with Baezu as your scum partner, but in main thread.

(I could be wrong that it was you replacing in)

[Baezu Leaf]

Baezu/Elements, you’ve got your group wrong

The group is Empress/Guard/Guard

The scum in it is Numbers.

How do you know this is the group?

[Baezu Leaf]

Actually Channel checks out.

Probably don’t let that slot end game, though.

One scum in bandit, one scum in royalty, one scum in royal guard.

Honestly there’s something hard off with Channel. They had two actions last night?

If DEB doesn’t die tonight, you lynch Channel tomorrow, that’s how that works.

~FL

Apparently, CF only had one vig shot and he used it N1 on ARO so unless DEB gets lynched, CF will not achieve their wincon

Yeah, let’s lynch CF. That’s scummy af if you have one Vig shot, that wincon, and you shoot this quickly.

[Baezu Leaf]

@Elements and Menalque

Now that we know that Numbers is scum, is it against your wincon to see them lynched? Town and protecting scum seems incompatible

PE: The bandits

weren’t

all Town. We already figured out which of us was and got Cyrus lynched

I don't see the point of this post. Our alt wincon is to identify the bandits up our removal from the game. Nothing about numbers.

Aren’t you Royal Guard? I thought you were protecting the Empress?

The loophole in their Super Loved status is probably having the guards vote for them

It would seem to me that one of the guards would be mafia

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

VOTE: Channel

This is just scum then.


PE: the original post said this is confirmed to just be town/mafia

[Baezu Leaf]

Baezu/Elements, you’ve got your group wrong

The group is Empress/Guard/Guard

The scum in it is Numbers.

But doesnt cyrus need scum to win to win? Like completing his alt wincon doesnt help him if scum lose so why i dont get why he'd give up a buddy here
Why

Cyrus gave up Numbers as his scumbuddy. He was looking to trade info in order to work together

why could Cyrus not have been WIFOMing again?

[Baezu Leaf]

Channel is scum who tried outing a protective.

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

Cyrus doing that actually makes me feel like Numbers is even more town.

Also, Channel brought up Role copping a Priest as well, but didn’t say who it was, and made no gesture showing that it was us.

That was a ploy to out the Priest.

His win con is probably to kill us, it’s pretty obvious at this point.

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

@Pine - I gotta go ScumChannel today for my wincon, so we’re gonna be going pretty head on it seems.

[Baezu Leaf]

I think I'd prob rather lynch channel today and numbers tomorrow

idk pine, you feel weird here, but maybe that's just because I've only ever played with you as scum so if you're town then maybe you would feel different?

Wow. Lynch this so hard if Channel is town and Numbers is scum 2 days from now

[Baezu Leaf]

I’m like 98% sure that Channel’s scum and their alt wincon is to shoot the Priest.

We’re the Priest, and we have to live for our wincon.

[Baezu Leaf]

Skitter dies with us too if we’re killed like that.

[Baezu Leaf]

Skitter dies with us too if we’re killed like that.

Okay, this was a WIFOM ploy, disregard this.

[Baezu Leaf]

Baezu/Elements, you’ve got your group wrong

The group is Empress/Guard/Guard

The scum in it is Numbers.

Why

Cyrus gave up Numbers as his scumbuddy. He was looking to trade info in order to work together

But doesnt cyrus need scum to win to win? Like completing his alt wincon doesnt help him if scum lose so why i dont get why he'd give up a buddy here

^ what i meant to write; not sure what happened with the quotes

Cyrus implied that Numbers personally had to go down, as well as another condition

This makes me think numbers in NOT scum

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

I was doing a thing, but decided against it because I went about it poorly.

You’ll live if I die. Don’t worry. You’re definitely important to us, though

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

I’m like 98% sure that Channel’s scum and their alt wincon is to shoot the Priest.

We’re the Priest, and we have to live for our wincon.

Skitter dies with us too if we’re killed like that.

Skitter dies with us too if we’re killed like that.

Okay, this was a WIFOM ploy, disregard this.

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

And they just happened to rolecop you n1?

I think channel is p scummy, yeah

In addition to his Vig shot on the player that we protected.

I don’t believe he knew who the Priest was, I believe he knew of a Priest, though, and revolves directly around his wincon.

[Baezu Leaf]

Anyone gonna get on that new classic wow Vanilla hype?

~FL

Wow remaster basically. I don’t think im gonna play, though. He wants me to heal as shaman, but

I’m

kind of

a

shadow

priest

guy. He tankin.

I never liked wow, though.

I’m vamping because i haven’t caught up

~FL

I brought up never liking wow, because why else would I be bringing this up if I didn’t care for it.

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

Were you informed that i/whisperers exist?

I feel like the false whisperer is prob mafia

Nope, only informed of a prophet.

Yeah, i feel Sky’s scum too, probably with Channel, and that’s the game.

[Baezu Leaf]

Best regards to our Priest, by the by.

- Fireball.

Given that I know there is a Priest in this town, your claim of being bulletproof sounds rather up there as well.

- Fireball.

Given that I know there is a Priest in this town, your claim of being bulletproof sounds rather up there as well.

- Fireball.

Role names don't necessarily indicate the roles ability

If a Priest has anything else than a "heal" ability in a game of mafia I will eat my shoe and invite your for a ceremony where I do it in front of you.

- Fireball.

What did you mean by this:

i actually believe that pp is a jk (or at least, had something to do with the fact that nobody died last night)

I can say with certainty that it had nothing to do with it.

- Fireball.

Someone must have healed ARO. At the time it seemed likely that the Priest we just discovered perhaps had a healing ability, and a wincondition that goes alongside it. That's why I made that statement.

- Fireball.

Role fishing trying to find out who the Priest was.

As you can see, there’s zero crumbing to who the Priest is, just that there is one, meaning it’s extremely unlikely they knew who the Priest was.

Also, they pushed HARD for ARO being their target to hide their wincon of us being their target.

[Baezu Leaf]

Were you informed that i/whisperers exist?

I feel like the false whisperer is prob mafia

Nope, only informed of a prophet.

Yeah, i feel Sky’s scum too, probably with Channel, and that’s the game.

what happened to one of me-elements is lockscum like 2 minutes ago?

Stick with the times, that was 2 minutes ago.

I’m a known flip flopper.

Ask Pine how many players I went through and hardcased in Pastries Day 2.

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

But Channel’s got extremely high scum equity AND I am his wincon

[Baezu Leaf]

Holy shit.

Lynch 123456789.

I’ve never had basically outed scum be so difficult to lynch.

Like - I’m not even fulfilling my additional wincon here - I’m just trying to get town a win.

This 1000 times

We literally can’t. We straight up lose if that’s the case. Get them tomorrow.

Channel is conf scum

[Baezu Leaf]

Numbers is WIFOM’d likely town anyways

[Baezu Leaf]

Holy shit.

Lynch 123456789.

I’ve never had basically outed scum be so difficult to lynch.

Like - I’m not even fulfilling my additional wincon here - I’m just trying to get town a win.

This 1000 times

Thirded (definitely not a word)
There are two possibilities here for anyone unsure about this.
1) Numbers is scum - yay we lynch a scum that would otherwise be almost impossible to do due to super loved
2) Numbers is the lychee target of PP and Pine - after they flipp we'll have two practically confirmed town actively searching for scum rather then trying to convince everyone to lynch numbers.

Lynching numbers is a win either way.

No it’s not. It’s a straight up defeat for us here.

And Numbers is likely town. We do this tomorrow.

We have to go Channel today, because they get to get their wincon tonight.

[Baezu Leaf]

Why did you think ARO was prophet?

Because of what he said in the beginning of the thread re: having a lyncher. We knew that there was a prophet and we thought that was what he was alluding to.

[Baezu Leaf]

No it’s not. It’s a straight up defeat for us here.

Please explain how. PP can jail CF tonight to stop them killing you or jail you to protect you.
Is that "us" as in town or and in you as a hydra?

PP- can you use your jk ability every night?

[Baezu Leaf]

So your role knows about the prophet and whatever the hell CF is?

No, our role knows that there IS a prophet. We don’t know who it is. We assumed it was ARO

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

I actually agree with Flavor Leaf here- I think sky and CF are scum

[Baezu Leaf]

Why do I have this ominous feeling that if the bandits get the loot then they win and the rest of town loses?

[Baezu Leaf]

CF will kill us tonight if we don’t lynch him today
Numbers is NOT scum

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

Wow so many good pagetops this game!

We can lynch numbers on day 4,

We need to lynch scum today

[Baezu Leaf]

I don’t think it’s outside the realm of possibilities for this game for a town wincon to be to take out another town

[Baezu Leaf]

We need town to win and one of prophet/priest must survive to endgame

[Baezu Leaf]

I think there are two more scum - ARO and most likely CF

-bae

[Baezu Leaf]

In that case CF is lying and there is no outlaw, CF is just scum.

I rolecopped him last night and found out his role is that of bounty hunter

[Baezu Leaf]

No, I'm not lying, I am a Town Royal Bodyguard.
I chose an offensive stance and got to investigate someone to learn their wincon.
I chose Baezu Leaf, and their claim checks out. They win by staying alive until the end of the game, or if a certain player survives until the end game.

That BAM has been BOOZLED!

Or something like that...

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

The only reason DEB lies is if he’s trying to pocket me, but I wasn’t even playing. That’s town.

[Baezu Leaf]

p much never more scum than 10:3 in singleball ( i can think of only one and the mod was roasted heavily afterwards )

I can think of at least 2, and I was scum in BOTH of them simultaneously.

Fml this year really

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

I want to kill CF with a fire leaf

[Baezu Leaf]

And have the pine scented leaf that had recently caught fire flow upon the one they call Channel and, as if they were drizzled with kerosene, they majestically sprout wings of fire that lights up the fabricated skies of whatever prison the scum private thread consists of to assist them to awaken the thought that maybe, just maybe, they aren’t that bad, maybe there’s a chance for them. But NO! Fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

Channel today! Channel forever!

[Baezu Leaf]

ARO is town, and that’s proven with a CF flip.

ScumCF targeted ARO, and had no recollection of numbers.

Aro is town, CF is scum.

CF today.

~FL

[Baezu Leaf]

Y’all I smoke to get rid of that paranoia.

~FL

Side note, uhm...where was the modconfirmed scum at...musta missed it.

[Baezu Leaf]

I need town to win, and i need to identify the true whisperer (presumably sky) at endgame

it's ARO, you're welcome

How do you know ARO is the true whisperer?

[Baezu Leaf]

You on pine?