mini 2093, the search - an interminable period of darkness.

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Note: We'll be signing our posts and using colors to make it easier to differentiate. Chennis is orange, CC is blue, Eggs is green.

Like so. - Acute

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Wow I expected this game to make me hate myself but I didn't expect it to make me hate myself this much

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And I have to deal with mafsepia

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Wow I expected this game to make me hate myself but I didn't expect it to make me hate myself this much

And I have to deal with mafsepia

This is all chennis, I'm using orange. If anything looks remotely like orange it's me, I can't tell the difference with this dumb skin

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Wow I expected this game to make me hate myself but I didn't expect it to make me hate myself this much

Self-deprecation....what exactly are you angling for here?

I'm not the one who needs to sign Obtuse after every post
- Acute

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And I have to deal with mafsepia

Oh shit, I’m so sorry...at least you can still have mafSilver on your main

VOTE: pine

I use mafblack

Also this isn't gonna be a tryhard game on my end so I think you've been spared

- Acute

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Isn't that all of us?

- Acute

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Amusing how we've been called ARC and ACR instead of ARO.

- Acute

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how about we all ignore the alternate wincon and count this is as a W in our hearts if town wins?

- Acute

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Color scheme jealousy, obv

That's a very surface level read

Your theory doesn't mention Oedipus once
/R

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Am I allowed to bet? Pretty please?

Our second wincon is independent of the usual, so they don't have to be linked.

I'm getting vague townish feelings from PP and Pines actions, and some of CF's comments, however I'm not a fan of #43 (feels a little bit LAMIST) or the advertised dissonance (giving oneself leeway to flip reads) which is holding me back from a townlean.

@OGMod we are currently voting Pine I think

/R

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I feel townDeb would have piled on to the wagon on me

You didn't have a wagon, nothing to pile onto?
/R

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fair, assumed from word choice that might make a difference to the read
/A

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fair, assumed from word choice that might make a difference to the read
/R

EBWOP

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What is your scumtell on chennisden?

As the wagon on his hydra is fairly populated I feel no need to explore this at the moment. Revealing this would mean harder games in the future to solve Chennis' alignment, as he would be aware of that tell. I will only reveal this if needed. I hope you understand my position.

- Fireball.

You know that's a steaming pile of bullshit

- Acute

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What is your scumtell on chennisden?

As the wagon on his hydra is fairly populated I feel no need to explore this at the moment. Revealing this would mean harder games in the future to solve Chennis' alignment, as he would be aware of that tell. I will only reveal this if needed. I hope you understand my position.

- Fireball.

You know that's a steaming pile of bullshit

- Acute

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What is your scumtell on chennisden?

As the wagon on his hydra is fairly populated I feel no need to explore this at the moment. Revealing this would mean harder games in the future to solve Chennis' alignment, as he would be aware of that tell. I will only reveal this if needed. I hope you understand my position.

- Fireball.

First thing first I don't think anyone on this site has gotten this good at reading me minus FL or Ank, and you're clearly neither of those people. FL is already in this game and Ank wouldn't say this bullshit when she was completely wrong on me just now. Second thing is I can completely change my scumgame at a drop of a hat and you'd know this if you were actually LOOKING at my meta. Also scumreading me for bullshit or made up reasons is a really good way to throw the game regardless of my alignment so don't do that.

Your job is also to play to win

this game

and given you're willing to vote me and pretend you have a reason to do so instead of just outing it. There's no meta tell THAT STRONG on anyone particularly a player like me. Anyone who's played a game recently with me when I rolled scum really shouldn't be cocky enough to say something like "I have a reliable meta tell on chennis and im not gonna out it lul" because 1) You clearly failed last time and 2) not outing it for "future games" is a dick move. Not outing it so you can see if it still applies is understandable but "future games" goes COMPLETELY against the spirit of the "win this current game rule" and it pisses me off.

- Acute

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idk.

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i don't think anyone in this lobby is particularly capable of reading each other and i see a lot of people who claim to be able to read me but can't.

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i also know that channelfireball has NOT read the op because if he did he'd know that you have to get BOTH wincons.

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Yeah that was a scummy reaction lol

-chanel

here's a quiz:

what alignment does chennis prefer playing as

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VOTE: fireball your post have just been rubbing me the wrong way

Which post are you referring to?
By all means, feel free to elaborate on that.

- Fireball.

The sentiment behind all of the "I'm not going to reveal the obvious tell because it'll ruin future games" feel very have blind faith in me because I know best.
Don't like it

I can understand not liking the move. As numbers stated they found it distateful. However I would like to know if that sentiment translates to me being scummy. What scummy intent do you think I hold by saying such things?
I would also like to know your thoughts on the ACO hydra, if possible, and what they have posted so far. Thank you.

It's really easy to form shit reads that you don't have to explain if you hide behind a wall of "meta." Interestingly enough I've also done it wrt skitter's slot and said "I can sort her D2 I have a tell" when I really didn't want to deal with the slot and by "sort" I meant JK (so i would've softed my target). granted things changed, but.

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If not for the meta tell, your reaction to all of this is not representative of your town game. This frustration and the way you phrased it comes from you when you roll scum. I feel fairly certain about that. This reaction is clearly a response coming from frustrated scum that wants to know how they got caught, or perhaps being able to rectify their mistake mid-way, which is unfortunately for you not going to happen.

- Fireball.

When's the last time you've played with me?

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If not for the meta tell, your reaction to all of this is not representative of your town game. This frustration and the way you phrased it comes from you when you roll scum.

why

I feel fairly certain about that.

also why

This reaction is clearly a response coming from frustrated scum that wants to know how they got caught, or perhaps being able to rectify their mistake mid-way, which is unfortunately for you not going to happen.

- Fireball.

Like, don't you feel something off about this confidence?

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I'm annoyed because you're pretending to have a real reason for doing so

- Acute

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If not for the meta tell, your reaction to all of this is not representative of your town game. This frustration and the way you phrased it comes from you when you roll scum. I feel fairly certain about that. This reaction is clearly a response coming from frustrated scum that wants to know how they got caught, or perhaps being able to rectify their mistake mid-way, which is unfortunately for you not going to happen.

- Fireball.

When's the last time you've played with me?

Also can you answer this? A general timeframe would be nice.

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have you actually

read

the game?

and did you play against me in Gameshow or Mini 2077? Bc the newbie and 2070 are really unrepresentative of my scum meta

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I'm annoyed because you're pretending to have a real reason for doing so

- Acute

I do. This is perhaps the most obvious scumtell I have seen in any game of mafia, and I am frankly quite surprised nobody pointed it out in the last scum game you played in Gay Dance. Consider yourself lucky.

- Fireball.

i'm fairly convinced YOUR alt wincon in particular is that of a lyncher, which is why i don't think your push comes in good faith.

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My presence in those games is a non-relevant point of discussion, considering anyone can delve in the games you have played at any time. And if they do, they will certainly notice the same thing that I have notice, and will promptly join your wagon.

What made you think that our alt-condition is the one of a Lyncher? And what made you think that over the possibility of me being scum?

- Fireball.

alt wincon = lyncher is not mutually exclusive with being scum. trying to get me mislynched D1 is a huge bonus for that theory.

lynchers generally don't play in good faith either.

i'm also not buying your "my presence is a non-relevant point of discussion" - i don't think you'd read

my games

just for funzies, and you really can't pick up on meta-tells without playing with a player. either own up to the meta point or discard it.

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My presence in those games is a non-relevant point of discussion, considering anyone can delve in the games you have played at any time. And if they do, they will certainly notice the same thing that I have notice, and will promptly join your wagon.

What made you think that our alt-condition is the one of a Lyncher? And what made you think that over the possibility of me being scum?

- Fireball.

your reaction also convinces me i'm right, btw

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bc if you actually read my games

as scum

, you'd have realized that im not exactly the easiest guy to mislynch

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maybe the wagon on me doesn't give that impression.

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so you're telling me that you've skimmed my recent scumgames in 1 day and in that time picked up on a meta tell that some of the best players onsite couldn't WHILE PLAYING AGAINST ME AS SCUM.

that's funny.

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VOTE: fireball

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I will admit that all of these people need some glasses because quite frankly, between you and I, I still don't understand how you got away with that particular thing for so long.

- Fireball.

you're stepping around the toes of the matter in a way that makes me think the matter doesn't exist.

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I will admit that all of these people need some glasses because quite frankly, between you and I, I still don't understand how you got away with that particular thing for so long.

- Fireball.

you're stepping around the toes of the matter in a way that makes me think the matter doesn't exist.

so it took you less than 12 hours to skim my games and find my scumtell.

that's why i KNOW you're faking this shit to try and get me lynched for your wincon.

your continued alterations of the truth are beyond insane.

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Note: We'll be signing our posts and using colors to make it easier to differentiate. Chennis is orange, CC is blue, Eggs is green.

Like so. - Acute

Anyway, regardless of this alternate win condition business...
I happen to have an extremely good scumtell for Chennisden and he fulfilled it this game.
VOTE: Acute Right Obtuse therefore should be a good lynch.

look at the timestamps ty.

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Oh trust me, dear. It exists. It's as clear as day. And the fact you insist about it for so long while trying to discredit my slot in particular, while having no discussion about the game in general, is very telling. It's also very amusing to see that you actually noticed your own tell as well. I know you have.

In fact, I invite all players here to do the same about your recent games. They can just have a cursory look and I can guarantee you that they will notice it as well.

- Fireball.

then what excuse do you have for not outing it?

exactly.

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your arrogance wrt my slot is astounding given that some really good players have been wrong on me on multiple occasions.

but hhhhhwatever everyone sucks at reading chennis except for ME, look at how good I AM at MAFIASCUM.net.

God.

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Oh trust me, dear. It exists. It's as clear as day. And the fact you insist about it for so long while trying to discredit my slot in particular, while having no discussion about the game in general, is very telling. It's also very amusing to see that you actually noticed your own tell as well. I know you have.

In fact, I invite all players here to do the same about your recent games. They can just have a cursory look and I can guarantee you that they will notice it as well.

- Fireball.

or you're implying that it's so obvious that EVERYONE should be able to see it but somehow {insert really long list of players} hasn't.

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bc if you actually read my games

as scum

, you'd have realized that im not exactly the easiest guy to mislynch

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stop asking questions/making statements that've already been answered.

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if you're playing a game around me as town w/o any shenanigans around my slot this isn't what you'd do.

if you're playing a game around me as scum w/o any shenanigans around my slot this isn't what you'd do.

that's why you must have shenanigans around my slot.

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Chenn, ur reaction to all of this ... is not great

At the same time fireball's push feels weird

you probably think it's weird because i would be livid at this bullshit as

both alignments

.

you do agree that he's probably lying about his meta tell?

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What is your scumtell on chennisden?

As the wagon on his hydra is fairly populated I feel no need to explore this at the moment. Revealing this would mean harder games in the future to solve Chennis' alignment, as he would be aware of that tell. I will only reveal this if needed. I hope you understand my position.

- Fireball.

This one is in the normal queue archive, for example, for a towngame of Chennis; https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10976751

Again, what's being discussed is hardly relevant. The tell is much simpler.

- Fireball.

Oh that's the one i was in

That's 2076 u were in 2081

rip

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why did it quote 70?

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

btw i guess ill out this now; we KNOW that there's someone whose wincondition is actively against ours

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

btw i guess ill out this now; we KNOW that there's someone whose wincondition is actively against ours

It's called town vs mafia

u know what i meant.

ALT wincon.

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also ik you might think 2076 is more recent cuz it ended later but actually 2081 is more recent (i joined 2081 WAY AFTER i died in 2076): https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

the capslock thing is something i do more often as both alignments recently. in GS you'll see i didn't do it

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uh a real scumtell might be that as scum id push a general agenda in my first post about stuff that kinda goes without saying.

gameshow i pushed "lynch scum even if 8ball" and "we need to lynch" - conveniently gets me shallow TRs to work with and i can push my agenda in that mould of "duh that's townie"

2077 doesn't fit the mould

gay dance i pushed "let's not pair in a shitty way" and "lol we only need 3 LOCKTOWN PLAYERS LOLOL" - it didn't become immediately obvious that i was putting myself in that agenda and it took a long time so people thought it was natural, and i killed all the town before they realized

this was actually subconscious and yeah im getting more self-aware of my scumgame.

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I have a question, however. Why would you assume in that case that we would be that player, instead of all the other players that voted you prior? Does that player holding that wincondition know your identity?

- Fireball.

id think probably?

now that you've started engaging in good faith i will take a look at the rest of my wagon - but as far as i can tell a lot of it was weird/jokey reasons

UNVOTE:

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specifically i'd think the person is town because if they were scum they could just NK me to manipulate their condition into fulfilling and that's too boring/bad

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btw the worst person on my wagon rn is gobble

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btw the worst person on my wagon rn is gobble

yeah this is kinda what i mean

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btw the worst person on my wagon rn is gobble

yeah this is kinda what i mean

Crap. sry mod i was trying to click the orange color and clicked something similar to ur color.

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specifically i'd think the person is town because if they were scum they could just NK me to manipulate their condition into fulfilling and that's too boring/bad

If this is what you think, why did you vote us?

- Fireball.

i was mad.

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specifically i'd think the person is town because if they were scum they could just NK me to manipulate their condition into fulfilling and that's too boring/bad

If this is what you think, why did you vote us?

- Fireball.

i was mad.

i try not to let emotions get to me but i've had a rough day yesterday

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Right.

I think that train of thought is fairly townie and that you're not lying about that piece of information. Perhaps scum is elsewhere. Do you have any reads?

- Fireball.

i think gobble is probably my most likely scum candidate.

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Right.

I think that train of thought is fairly townie and that you're not lying about that piece of information. Perhaps scum is elsewhere. Do you have any reads?

- Fireball.

i think gobble is probably my most likely scum candidate.

i feel like the reads he's throwing out are too easy.

a lot of stances he's taken are conveniently useful.

pine scum? really easy to say.
pine said something about cyrus? town now.
skitter town because she said something he liked.

in general i feel like his playstyle has been encouraging a lot of people to play in a way to appease him, you know? the weird half-baked way he's been doubling down isn't great either.

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Right.

I think that train of thought is fairly townie and that you're not lying about that piece of information. Perhaps scum is elsewhere. Do you have any reads?

- Fireball.

i think gobble is probably my most likely scum candidate.

If you suspect him of being your presumed Lyncher doesn't that mean he is town more often than not? That seemed to be your reasoning.

- Fireball.

i thought it was you for a while. i don't think he

feels

like my lyncher.

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I'll clarify a little - it's not

exactly

a lyncher as in they AUTO win when I'm dead but let's just say their life becomes a LOT EASIER with me dead.

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hey skitter, fireball, why don't you stop tvting

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hey skitter, fireball, why don't you stop tvting

- acute

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channel fireball i know skitter's probably not your top scum candidate and skitter if channel's your top scum candidate you should prolly reread

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a lot of stances he's taken are conveniently useful.

What does this mean?

in general i feel like his playstyle has been encouraging a lot of people to play in a way to appease him, you know?

What does this mean?

you should know what this means.

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Why not @Elements?

The mod did say not many of us will win which implies mutually exclusive win conditions amongst us.

It would cause conflict within town and give scum a big advantage massively tipping the game in their favour unless they also had directly conflicting wincons too which seems even more unlikely

here's the thing - i know for a fact that SOMEONE out there has a wincon that's directly against MINE. and the nature of it implies town to me.

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a lot of stances he's taken are conveniently useful.

What does this mean?

in general i feel like his playstyle has been encouraging a lot of people to play in a way to appease him, you know?

What does this mean?

you should know what this means.

I would like you to explain more explicitly.

conveniently useful as in it feels like you're taking these stances to USE them, not because you actually believe in them.

wanting people to appease you as in you want people to play in your agenda.

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i dunno.

agendas can change and you should know that.

my point isn't that you're actively planning stuff, it's that you're setting the stage to make it easier on yourself when you do plan some stuff.

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agendas can change and you should know that

Do I know you? Or is this the metaphorical You-as-a-person-with-a-brain?

my point isn't that you're actively planning stuff, it's that you're setting the stage to make it easier on yourself when you do plan some stuff.

You keep using this amorphous phraseology to describe my play and I don’t like it. You’re either seeing shadows or talking out of your tail feathers. You can’t articulate what “agenda” I am pushing, just that I am pushing an “agenda” or at least laying the ground work for some “agenda”.

“The Turkey is doing...

THINGS

!”

“What kind of things?”

“I don’t know! But they are

bad things

!”

“What makes them bad?”

“Because! Because.. because I think he’s up to something!”

“What do you mean?”

Start back at sentence 1

Do you not see how nonsensical that seems?

metaphorical, obviously.

and you're completely misrepping your own play as well as the way i've characterized it.

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channel fireball i know skitter's probably not your top scum candidate and skitter if channel's your top scum candidate you should prolly reread

Why are they town ?

cuz they dont need to pretend to reevaluate me

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and you're completely misrepping your own play as well as the way i've characterized it.

I don’t think I am. I think you’re afraid of calling this gut read well... a gut read.

it's a tone read, which is actually v different

but good post

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Do you have any scum reads ACO?

I'll have some when people start playing

Ur my only real SR as of now

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This is saying something because I love math.
VOTE: ARO

this pretty much is a textbook definition of posturing. u should kinda know the wagon on me is shit.

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This is saying something because I love math.
VOTE: ARO

this pretty much is a textbook definition of posturing. u should kinda know the wagon on me is shit.

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This is saying something because I love math.
VOTE: ARO

this pretty much is a textbook definition of posturing. u should kinda know the wagon on me is shit.

when the only person actually

driving

my wagon backs off, u shouldn't be voting me if ur town

[Acute Right Obtuse]

and if ur gonna go with "i had my own unique reasons" - you should've outed them

[Acute Right Obtuse]

idk how to tell the difference between if DEB is scum or if he's just bad town or if my existence attacks his wincon, so

[Acute Right Obtuse]

I'd prefer to use colors to make it easier to see which head is posting. If there's a better color I could use I might be able to do that.

- Acute

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also the color just bugs me so u scum read acute due to colors

this is not a townpost.

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gobble can u start playing the game in good faith

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gobble can u start playing the game in good faith

u should also be aware that i dont vote as either alignment gobble and i know you're trying to bait me to vote you so you can use it later on.

nah, i'm not doing that.

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gobble can u start playing the game in good faith

u should also be aware that i dont vote as either alignment gobble and i know you're trying to bait me to vote you so you can use it later on.

nah, i'm not doing that.

by "don't vote" i mean "don't vote until i want to end the day with that vote" and i'm not really in the mood to end the day yet.

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that was like... ur only point

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HEY HYDRA PARTNERS, CAN U TOWNSPEW PLS

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Nope. Read again. I found your interactions with Fireball and the lyncher stuff to be contradictory. I also thought it was scummy you were scumreading me yet had no vote. I will concede the later point.

your first point has already been answered, ironically by the guy i was voting.

also, why concede the latter point instantly instead of actually making sure i'm not lying? why not make sure i don't just refuse to vote as scum because wagonomics are scary?

[Acute Right Obtuse]

idk. it feels like you're looking for stuff to

push

rather than

sort

and that's what i mean by bad faith.

[Acute Right Obtuse]

i mean ur the one who's voting town rn but, okay.

[Acute Right Obtuse]

i mean ur the one who's voting town rn but, okay.

nvm, you

were

voting town but are now voting cyrus

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u took all of 6 minutes and i provided no links and u had to go back to mini 2093 "the search" and post "yeah this is his meta." and then ur like "Yup I checked his Meta and He's Right" so i just wanna ask you, how did u do this in 6 minutes?

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Page 29 is how scum mena presents his thoughts

-Chanel

Seems someone else read Surprise Mafia

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i dunno.

agendas can change and you should know that.

my point isn't that you're actively planning stuff, it's that you're setting the stage to make it easier on yourself when you do plan some stuff.

weird take

no? that's literally how i play scum

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Seems it's been used. What are the conditions?

Non-mafia targeting me for a "vigshot"

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Sorry for non hydra post rly busy and on mobile.

Hardclaim not outlaw otherwise I would just activate my ic ability

Also am conditional BP

When you have a chance, can you explain how you knew there was a lyncher role please?

-bae

My alt wincon explicitly tells me there is someone with an alt wincon opposing mine.

I did not know CF was a different type of "lyncher"

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Seems it's been used. What are the conditions?

Non-mafia targeting me for a "vigshot"

explain why i'm alive and why i haven't ICed myself then

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eh fine i'll fullclaim.

i'm the True whisperer and i have to live and have the Prophet guess who i am at endgame. i know the prophet is town

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eh fine i'll fullclaim.

i'm the True whisperer and i have to live and have the Prophet guess who i am at endgame. i know the prophet is town

Idk who the prophet is. Also there is a False whisperer, so yeah

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it should be transparently obvious skyg is lying but idk if that makes her scum.

i also can send messages but uh we forgot.

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it should be transparently obvious skyg is lying but idk if that makes her scum.

i also can send messages but uh we forgot.

Did you claim your wincondition already?

prophet must identify me after all mafia die

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Nice signalling but it's interesting so I'll let it happen on the condition you explain this postgame

[Acute Right Obtuse]

VOTE: sky

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im voting sky because she'll flip as false regardless of her alignment.

[Acute Right Obtuse]

i also think i told you why i didn't message - i forgot to.

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We are going to be stringing up CF today. Why? Because we can satisfy Number's alt win con and still get rid of them at a later date.

So your plan is to lynch a town investigative because you don't think you can fulfill our wincon

Sounds like you... suck at mafia!

It doesn't help that this setup is a steaming pile of shit, I know, but turning off your brain on the primary wincon to achieve a secondary wincon is awful.

Oh but wait --

I’m prettty sure that CF and Numbers have a good chance of both being scum given their roles so it’s ok we can knock this out

lol you think that "town rolecop with a multitasking one-shot vig" is something scum have in this setup. In fact you think we're "likely scum given our role"

vig failed or not, arguing we're scum because of roleclaim is steaming garbage. I mean I don't mind getting out of this game because the design is objectively bad, but pretending like you're playing to town wincon here is braindead levels of stupid.

-Chanel

Stop please

[Acute Right Obtuse]

Regardless of your alignment/wincon stop being a dick

I haven't liked Gobble's play this game to be fair but 1. it's a bastard game and 2. regardless you shouldn't treat anyone this way

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Regardless of your alignment/wincon stop being a dick

I haven't liked Gobble's play this game to be fair but 1. it's a bastard game and 2. regardless you shouldn't treat anyone this way

In particular, he's also been stepping the shit up out of this game after the early game.

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sky do you have any bp-like abilities ?

channel are you guys still pushing aro ... ?

pedit i agree that channel is kinda being difficult
gobble is being fine, and i think townie

early game i didn't like. right now is fine.

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your prior story was incredibly fishy

this is more believable but now i'm kinda annoyed at you two for not like ... just being upfront to begin with

why didn't you just say all of this to start ... ?

Because it sounds like a third party or lyncher role. We were trying to be subtle.

There’s also not much reason, absent the Super Loved thing, for urgency. Once that dropped, the plan we’d already set out on became a lot harder. The deeper we got into the massaged version of the story the harder it got to pull out.

PP gave me the nod to rip the bandaid off entirely. I don’t think we have anything held back now.

Why not do this immediately after Cyrus claimed scum

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Otoh I don't really believe they'd just hardbus scumbuddy cyrus.

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i don't lose if you die ?

i just have to guess right at endgame; i don't think any of you/me/sky need to be alive for me to win

i'm confused by your bp
and confused why the role isn't symmetric

pedit again you both flip as whisperer i've said this like four times now

im confused too, and im also confused between the discrepancy of ur pm and mine.

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my pm explicitly says i can win posthumously

where do you think the discrepensy is exactly?

i just reread my role pm. u can win posthumously my bad. i however CANNOT.

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VOTE: numbers

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UNVOTE: numbers

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VOTE: numbers

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(:

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i'm sorry what was that

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sorry but i was never getting either wincon and im salty

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Eh one of u will still win. Just not both of you!!

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sorry if this game was disappointing but i was getting lynched VERY soon anyways. right

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nah, i dont think it's valid considering im town.

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Yeah you did Pine. I'm sorry if what I did feels against the spirit of the game, but consider where I'm at. Nobody wants to take an obvious scum slot, you both hard scumread me, and when CF flipped town ASSUMING he was lynched I'd have been the next day's lynch. I wouldn't have won my primary wincon and I was also losing my secondary wincon. I'm sorry everyone.

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idk. it's a bastard game where "playing to wincon" doesn't even exist considering cyrus sold out numbers.

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i'm sorry if you're like, mad i made it so one of you could win. but i thought it'd be funny

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Wait oops you could just lynch me and then lynch the hammerer and then lynch my buddy

I'm stupid

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do u rly think i could've won?