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Post Post #258 (isolation #0) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:56 am

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Shit shit shit I'm here ish
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Post Post #266 (isolation #1) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:21 pm

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In post 251, Zulfy wrote:Does anyone have anything important to say?
How am i supposed to read you?
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Post Post #267 (isolation #2) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:22 pm

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In post 259, Zulfy wrote:now it's a party
You're gonna make me blush
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Post Post #268 (isolation #3) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:22 pm

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Oh yeah i think oversoul is town
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Post Post #269 (isolation #4) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:23 pm

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And re: dunn i don't want public cop around for lylo
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Post Post #271 (isolation #5) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:25 pm

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Cops shouldn't make it to lylo on principle. Why is this different?
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Post Post #273 (isolation #6) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:30 pm

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Did you hear something
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Post Post #280 (isolation #7) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:35 pm

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In post 275, Commie Catgirl Coalition wrote:what if the mafia fail to shoot the public cop twice and the cop didn't claim...? thats not the fault of the town so i dont get what you're putting down here
Cops should claim before lylo if they make it that long
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Post Post #285 (isolation #8) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:36 pm

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In post 277, Dunnstral wrote:Flubber what are you arguing? That we should be lynching public cop claims?
No tf
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Post Post #288 (isolation #9) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:38 pm

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In post 282, RadiantCowbells wrote:I think he's arguing the cop should out D2
Get your hopes up!

We're gonna lynch scum today
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Post Post #299 (isolation #10) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:44 pm

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In post 291, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 280, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 275, Commie Catgirl Coalition wrote:what if the mafia fail to shoot the public cop twice and the cop didn't claim...? thats not the fault of the town so i dont get what you're putting down here
Cops should claim before lylo if they make it that long
No they really shouldn't - because as a public cop you can play very differently from a standard cop in that you can claim as to what you're doing

if it's a 3 person lylo then yes, cops should claim before that, but at 5 people alive there's room for a cop to clear themself still
I like this.

What are your reads?
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Post Post #313 (isolation #11) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:11 pm

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Can someone say something that isn't about meta im not up to date on
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Post Post #316 (isolation #12) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:44 pm

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Ill take that as a no
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Post Post #361 (isolation #13) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:43 am

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That uhhh probably makes oversoul town??
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Post Post #362 (isolation #14) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:45 am

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No I'm dumb
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Post Post #379 (isolation #15) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:50 am

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That's not self meta are you okay
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Post Post #382 (isolation #16) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:52 am

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In post 364, Oversoul wrote:
In post 361, Flubbernugget wrote:That uhhh probably makes oversoul town??
Bout damn time someone realized. But why did you say this?
It kinda looked like wagon resistance at first the way everyone unvoted, but it could have also been scum afraid of a bus going through. So no good info out of it right now.

Still kinda think you're town from your inital questioning but not by much
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Post Post #384 (isolation #17) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:53 am

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In post 381, RadiantCowbells wrote:How is "If I were trying to do X I'd do Y" not self meta
Depends on how encompassing x and y are
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Post Post #386 (isolation #18) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:14 am

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You can do better than that
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Post Post #390 (isolation #19) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:18 am

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RC why are you guns blazong on scum reading two people but hedging on me
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Post Post #396 (isolation #20) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:26 am

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So shoshin is town now?
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Post Post #402 (isolation #21) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:36 am

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In post 398, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 396, Flubbernugget wrote:So shoshin is town now?
What kind of question is this?
It's fair to ask given the early game. If you flipped on that push i missed it because back and forths (esp laden in meta) are tough to read
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Post Post #437 (isolation #22) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:15 am

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In post 404, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean as a question sure

But you were leading somewhere with me softballing you that hasn't happened, and "so Shoshin is town now" also feels like you're trying to attack me rather than learn my Shoshin read.
Yeah I doubt this is how you actually think this went down. I made a claim, you said it was false, I needed to figure out why. That's not an attack. How would that be an attack? What the hell? That makes no sense.

It looks bad that you can play very aggressively to get the game going, but once the town seems directionless you stop doing that. It's like you want to play into that kind of a gamestate.
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Post Post #438 (isolation #23) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:17 am

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VOTE: RC
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Post Post #446 (isolation #24) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:34 am

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In post 444, Zulfy wrote:
In post 437, Flubbernugget wrote:How would that be an attack? What the hell?
These two questions are also attacks. Do you see it now?
I think so.

Asking if shoshin was town wasn't intended as an attack. Those were.
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Post Post #451 (isolation #25) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:42 am

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"scumread" in a more exciting way or something
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Post Post #469 (isolation #26) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:35 am

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In post 460, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 437, Flubbernugget wrote:It looks bad that you can play very aggressively to get the game going, but once the town seems directionless you stop doing that. It's like you want to play into that kind of a gamestate.

What does this even mean?

I tried to get the game going in the early game and I can't maintain that momentum indefinitely. How is that something you're pushing as a scumtell?
You're perfectly capable of leading a town dude I've seen you play before
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Post Post #526 (isolation #27) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:29 pm

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In post 470, RadiantCowbells wrote:As both scum and town, yes.

And it was extremely ubiquitous in the time period that your experience with me was from for me to completely disappear from thread until I had a scumread then deathtunnel them without giving reasons. Self described my town play as "punctuated equilibrium" where I go super hard when I have something to do and don't post when I don't.

I fail to see how you mental gymnastics my slowed pace as a scumtell when you know I can maintain pace as scum, slow periods were more common from me in your experience than for people who know me now, and when the "gamestate I'm trying to create" is actually still pretty good even though it's not as dramatic. The Jenga blocks just don't stack. So are you scumreading me for something else or are you scum?
I've never viewed you as not having something to say or keeping quiet.

And there's three people with minimal to zero reads and I don't get how you can be ok with that
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Post Post #527 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:31 pm

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In post 476, RadiantCowbells wrote:why not vote flubber? he's done absolutely fucking nothing. do you think it's inherently towny of him to push on me? because scum have pushed on me nearly all of my recent games.
Yeah if we're scumreading me for not doing anything we're cherrypicking
hard
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Post Post #528 (isolation #29) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:33 pm

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In post 517, Shoshin wrote:
In post 437, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 404, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean as a question sure

But you were leading somewhere with me softballing you that hasn't happened, and "so Shoshin is town now" also feels like you're trying to attack me rather than learn my Shoshin read.
Yeah I doubt this is how you actually think this went down. I made a claim, you said it was false, I needed to figure out why. That's not an attack. How would that be an attack? What the hell? That makes no sense.

It looks bad that you can play very aggressively to get the game going, but once the town seems directionless you stop doing that. It's like you want to play into that kind of a gamestate.
RC taking a breather when he thinks he's found scum (as it seems here) is usually town RC. Not outside his scum range but not scummy.
I'm listening.
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Post Post #529 (isolation #30) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:34 pm

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Pretty unlikely that both rc and sho call out my meta as wrong so ill just accept that for what it is.

Vote stays over 527
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Post Post #530 (isolation #31) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:35 pm

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That first sentence is horrible pls say something if it's not clear
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Post Post #543 (isolation #32) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:17 pm

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In post 539, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 526, Flubbernugget wrote:And there's three people with minimal to zero reads and I don't get how you can be ok with that
ok so why are you okay with that? you're going after me (who has given reads) as opposed to going after any of them.
I'm not okay with it I just know better than to scum read it
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Post Post #546 (isolation #33) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:20 pm

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In post 538, Shoshin wrote:
In post 529, Flubbernugget wrote:Vote stays over 527
I don't understand why you're voting RC, please explain this.
Half the game is doing nothing so that objectively can't be a scumtell
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Post Post #547 (isolation #34) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:20 pm

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So it makes no sense to say I'm scummy for not doing anything
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Post Post #560 (isolation #35) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:24 pm

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In post 545, RadiantCowbells wrote:you're scumreading me for only part of the game forcing everyone to contribute meaningfully when you're also making no efforts to make anyone else contribute meaningfully
you're both acknowledging that the reason for your read on me applies to everyone else but it applies to you as well, and you still consider it AI because... gotta scumread RC right?

regardless of your alignment you decided to scumread me and then after the fact came up with reasons that you thought justified it. i don't think you do this as town.
Uhhh I didn't scum read you and come up with reasons afterward.

And I did back off that point, albeit for a different reason

You're saying I'm both posting bad and doing nothing, so which is it? And if there's so many badposters to you why is it scummy?
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Post Post #561 (isolation #36) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:25 pm

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In post 550, Shoshin wrote:I don't get it, Flubb. Why are you still voting RC when he's addressed most of your concerns, he's actively doing stuff, and you just said the rest of the game isn't doing anything? Like, this is a situation where you change your vote. You were a lot more fluid about reads in Mini 2080.
Gimme a better vote then
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Post Post #563 (isolation #37) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:25 pm

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In post 555, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 550, Shoshin wrote:I don't get it, Flubb. Why are you still voting RC when he's addressed most of your concerns, he's actively doing stuff, and you just said the rest of the game isn't doing anything? Like, this is a situation where you change your vote. You were a lot more fluid about reads in Mini 2080.
regardless of his alignment he has decided that he wants to push on me this game and arguing that I'm town won't change that because he's not voting me for reads reasons.
Drop the victimhood dude
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Post Post #566 (isolation #38) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 564, RadiantCowbells wrote:I have only brought up you posting bad and doing nothing in the context of arguing with zulfy's strange nottownread on you whereby he keeps defending you while simultaneously not asserting a townread on you.
Hmmm
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Post Post #567 (isolation #39) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:28 pm

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VOTE: zulfy
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Post Post #570 (isolation #40) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:30 pm

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In post 521, Shoshin wrote:Schadd/Zulfy are town.

RC's maybe town, depends on something. Not worth lynching today either way.

Scum in Oversoul/Dunn/LUV/CCC/Flubb.
You wanna lynch in here?

Nah
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Post Post #571 (isolation #41) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:31 pm

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In post 536, Shoshin wrote:
In post 252, Zulfy wrote:Oh fuck you two pre inned together. This is like a whole thing for you two fuck.
This kind of post rarely comes from scum.
This?

Pffft
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Post Post #576 (isolation #42) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:34 pm

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Think I'm l1
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Post Post #581 (isolation #43) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:35 pm

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You're all boring
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Post Post #583 (isolation #44) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:36 pm

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In post 580, RadiantCowbells wrote:i'm also still thinking a lot about lynching CCC instead, they're still being scummy scums.
Don't tell me your vote was
that
conditional on my push on you now
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Post Post #586 (isolation #45) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:37 pm

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:yawn:
In post 582, Shoshin wrote:Maybe I'm underestimating Schadd but his posts feel very towny to me. Carefree in ways that are difficult to fake. Clear thought process. Solid vote on Dunn. What don't you like him from him?

Are you townreading anyone?
Dunn isn't a solid vote. He's not even someone you'd vote apparently
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Post Post #591 (isolation #46) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:39 pm

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In post 587, RadiantCowbells wrote:i unvoted you because you hit l-1 not because of anything else.
Put it back then
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Post Post #596 (isolation #47) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:41 pm

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Zulfy wrote:
In post 589, RadiantCowbells wrote:like my reasons for scumreading flubber are worse than my reasons for scumreading CCC basically
props for the honesty
You're not leaving this game alive on commentary alone
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Post Post #599 (isolation #48) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:42 pm

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Bet
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Post Post #602 (isolation #49) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:43 pm

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In post 595, Shoshin wrote:
In post 586, Flubbernugget wrote:Dunn isn't a solid vote. He's not even someone you'd vote apparently
Dunn's at the top of my suspect list. He's playing exactly like he did in another game where he was scum, making some setup comments, saying nothing about alignments.
It's even in the post of yours I quoted lmaoooo
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Post Post #606 (isolation #50) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 597, Zulfy wrote:We're gonna have to critically analyze what you mean by commentary.
You can analyze posts but have so few conclusions
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Post Post #613 (isolation #51) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:48 pm

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Zzzzzzzzz
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Post Post #619 (isolation #52) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:52 pm

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In post 616, Zulfy wrote:
In post 602, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 595, Shoshin wrote:
In post 586, Flubbernugget wrote:Dunn isn't a solid vote. He's not even someone you'd vote apparently
Dunn's at the top of my suspect list. He's playing exactly like he did in another game where he was scum, making some setup comments, saying nothing about alignments.
It's even in the post of yours I quoted lmaoooo
She's saying "solid vote on Dunn", why the "apparently"?
I was laughing at myself for fucking up
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Post Post #623 (isolation #53) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:53 pm

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In post 614, Zulfy wrote:^ see what i mean?
No I dont
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Post Post #891 (isolation #54) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:39 am

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I don't have the slightest clue how to read schadd

I think I'm warming up to dunn scum
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Post Post #900 (isolation #55) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:43 am

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Literally noone is playing the way id expect them to
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Post Post #914 (isolation #56) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:26 am

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Ccc I have no clue who you are and I'm not shading you
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Post Post #918 (isolation #57) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:29 am

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LUV normally has super high post counts

I haven't played with oversoul in a while but I remember them obvtowning pretty easily

There's the entire me/rc debacle

So I have no clue what you're getting at
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Post Post #1053 (isolation #58) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:24 am

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I'm not seeing ccc for scum either
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Post Post #1157 (isolation #59) » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:22 am

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I didnt realize you actually had a case on LUV zulfy

schadd too though I'm not doing a meta dive any time soon
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Post Post #1165 (isolation #60) » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:35 am

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In post 1163, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Imagine believing I need to refute that case :lol:
wanna do me a solid?
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Post Post #1182 (isolation #61) » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:15 am

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In post 1179, Zulfy wrote:WhoA I looked back and got way distracted

He did! Never explained why tho
The best you've got going for you in terms of gamelplay rn is an extremely meh case on luv
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #62) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:49 am

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In post 1226, Commie Catgirl Coalition wrote:So how do we feel about cop outing since scum cant cc
We talked about this yesterday
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #63) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:54 am

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In post 1202, Oversoul wrote:My LUV read unchanged. Do not think his play is pro-town at all. Not trying to scumhunt or generally interact with anyone in this game
My second strongest scum read is RC because I feel like from everything I've read his play would be different? I don't even know. Part of me thinks that he takes more pride in his scum game and would try really hard in this game because of the people here, but all of me also understands nothing about RC or his motives. I just do not think his later game stances in this game are well founded and it pings me as very scummy
This makes me entertain an oversould/luv pair
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #64) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:55 am

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VOTE: luv
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Post Post #1243 (isolation #65) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:05 am

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Literally the only player he elaborates a read on in that post

And it comes out as null anyway
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Post Post #1246 (isolation #66) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:24 am

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In post 1244, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Oversoul was bad scum who thought they could lynch me. Happens all the time.
You wouldn't have addressed me if my argument didn't have credence
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #67) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:25 am

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In post 1245, Zulfy wrote:I don't think Shoshin is locked town.
Shoshin is the only player id entertain bussing rn but I'm not ready to do that
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #68) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:40 am

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In post 1248, Zulfy wrote:Bussing in what sense
In the sense of hammering their scumpartner
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Post Post #1257 (isolation #69) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:41 am

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In post 1254, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I think scum Shoshin attempts to make RC fight for the Oversoul lynch a little more.
You're super off the mark here.
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Post Post #1315 (isolation #70) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:05 pm

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In post 1273, Shoshin wrote:LUV's locktown.
Tell me more
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #71) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:07 pm

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Oh fucking hell he was on the oversoul wagon the whole fucking time

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1317 (isolation #72) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:08 pm

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This is the worst game I've played in a damn long time
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Post Post #1319 (isolation #73) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:04 pm

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Same
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #74) » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:08 am

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Ccc why is zulfy scum
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Post Post #1382 (isolation #75) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:21 am

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In post 1371, Zulfy wrote:Flubbo wateryereads?
In post 1372, Zulfy wrote:WATERYEREADS FLUBBO?
Still thinking about that. From the giant cesspool of null yesterday you're the only player that actually looks like theyve towned it up.

LUV is probs town (who was all on that wagon again?)

Uhhhh I guess I need to sort shoshin soon
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Post Post #1383 (isolation #76) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:23 am

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Dunn was the only other cessnull on the oversoul wagon

So I think my vote ends up between shos/schadd
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #77) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:24 am

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Oh and I need to figure out ccc too but theyre probably town
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