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VOTE: flubbernyagget

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gonna be blunt i dont see how any of this is actually productive

can we just have rc/shoshin not interact until they townread each other early on or if later in the day there's still scumreads there resolve it then? i think it's entirely likely shoshin or rc could be scum here but if the day is going to turn into rc/shoshin i'd rather delay that for once i have a handle on everyone else :/

ftr i think this is probably a svt interaction just a very inevitably annoying one that could easily turn -ev

Does anyone disagree with me that it should be obvious from Shoshins point of view that my push on her is in good faith because knee jerk calling me scum without it being an emotional overreaction seems so, so out of place to me.

yes and i feel like i'd only ever agree with that take if i had any sort of a handle of shoshin's personality as scum v town

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skrr

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Actually fuck off Katy

sorry i can see that this is going to be unpleasant for everyone from a mile away? if you're town i think you're right but im never going to figure out you're town from this

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Actually fuck off Katy

sorry i can see that this is going to be unpleasant for everyone from a mile away? if you're town i think you're right but im never going to figure out you're town from this

YOUR INABILITY TO READ ME IS NOT MY PROBLEM

whatever

i probably wasnt even going to enjoy this game in the first place

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katy its been 450 words and no capital letters whats going on here champ

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there's your capital letter

i thought oversoul was town, what're you two seeing

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Katyusha simultaneously said that we were SvT (profiteering off of our spat assuming that you are in fact town but also probably bad if you aren't) then told us to stop yelling at each other. Not only that but the stuff that giggles said was about 'reading me correctly' and idk. On a simple level it makes sense as scum trying to have their cake and eat it too by calling us SvT and trying to look Towny for splitting up a TvT but on a deeper level I just don't think that's what Katy would say to me in that situation.

i've seen games that start with a d1 scum lynch but the game collapses afterwards and that's the direction i felt that the game would go if shoshin or you was lynched and flipped scum, no one wants to read or parse your interaction there (at least i don't) so if we want to prevent that from happening i'd rather hear from people that i can actually read and go from there considering this is a micro. i didn't say to stop fighting, i said to stop for now and revisit it when i feel that there's more to the game than you guys arguing. if i were trying to split up a tvt i wouldn't fucking say "this is scum v scum but let's revisit it later" because, you know, people would expect me to follow up on that

you're clearly demonstrating that you actually dont know how to read me as well as you think you do which i've pointed out to you multiple times

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oversoul's questions make perfect sense from a town perspective and i'm struggling to see why you think theyre specifically "safe" questions scum would ask.

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I think she'd have engaged me about it rather than talking about ~the gamestate~.

you think wrong then? i only would if i thought shoshin was likely town when im not even sure about that. the play from my perspective is to just wait for dunn and schadd to post since the former is a free read and schadd is likely to help me steer the game in a better direction, then once i have a handle on that i look into you/shoshin through poe

I barely know you as a mafia player anymore
That response doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me

you just said that you knew me better than shoshin, i assumed that meant in mafia

I feel like someone should be able to back me up that they've seen scum react to big spats in the same way that Oversoul did, by asking questions that don't directly solve the situation?

Why is this game so fucking weird about me

it *happens* but i dont have a reason to feel that that's more likely to me, like i see where he was coming from in terms of when he asked those questions and why

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uhm wig

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i dont think i changed much as a mafia player aside from being a lot more jaded about the game in general and flaking more often as a result, i basically only join games because people ask me to and i dont like turning people down

since this is a hydra im probably going to put more effort into sticking around but still, i cant tryhard the way i used to

I feel like someone should be able to back me up that they've seen scum react to big spats in the same way that Oversoul did, by asking questions that don't directly solve the situation?

I've seen town do it too so I dunno this seems like a bad reason to vote Oversoul.

right this is what i'm getting at: is there something about the context that makes it more likely scum playing it safe rather than town legitimately just wanting to get those answers? because i dont see it yet

also since someone is inevitably going to ask i said rc/shoshin was only likely svt because i'd assume that if they were as confident as i'm reading them the town one is probably correct - there's nothing about that interaction that really makes it *not* tvt but i'd rather like, just understand the game's baseline which i dont really yet

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I think that you and Katy are being weird about me in a way that I'm finding it impossible to stay meaningfully.

idk i wish there was more i can say to articulate what im feeling, you have every right to be baffled by me saying "svt but let's ignore it" but i really think it's the correct way to approach it right now

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So if "Katy" could go dormant for a bit, thanks. Ridiculous.

?????????? did i do something

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oh my god

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Spoiler:

Spoiler:

uh anyway

Cops shouldn't make it to lylo on principle. Why is this different?

what if the mafia fail to shoot the public cop twice and the cop didn't claim...? thats not the fault of the town so i dont get what you're putting down here

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I'm going to try to figure out if CCC is town (not sure how to read their current play) and work with them

i probably wouldnt have a read on my play rn

i at least feel that you're likely town rn - who do you wanna vote?

Katy what's your read on me

in all honesty, none, hence the way i'm approaching this game

i'm probably going to reread the earlier pages once i figure out dunn/schadd/others

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like in all honesty *should* i actually be reading you in a specific way here? without flips i really dont think i could

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just a vibe, i agree he's within scumrange objectively but when i get there i'll get there

I do think there is pretty reasonable odds of Katy actually being scum.

i mean i dont think i've done anything townie so this isnt like, a farfetched conclusion

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You're typing weird katydid

you're not going to get very far trying to read me via tone <:/

Ms. Katydid can you please link your last 3 scum games

fuck if i remember hang on

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=68636 - first scum game ever

there was your upick and also that thinkbig micro that was immediately after where i was like basically nonfunctional irl and i think deeply impacted all of my games (which were both scumgames so :L), i dont think ti really mattered anyway because the setup was autoloss but w/e https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=72576

the alisae upick i wasnt trying in because transcend already scumclaimed and we planned for my slot to get bussed the next day https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=75168

and then there's the game on grendel's forum where i was with nancy and ginngie but i cant find the link for the life of me btu that was the only scum game ive played that i can recall where ive played competently and at my best but it was like, my second game, so if i roll scum and am not utterly suicidal it would probably look different

Mediocre players ask mediocre questions ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

wig

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no it means my wig flew off or, in that specific case, dunnstral snatched your wig right off

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it's more of a niche culture thing than a hip thing, i wouldn't worry about it

pedit: i mean, yeah, thats what i figured he meant by safe. i dont really know what hard hitting questions really could be asked in that situation, especially as early game as it is right now

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SCHADD 75 was me smh
town schadd would have known that...

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miaow

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Stop

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Its Cat

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just a thought.... the last time dunnie and purrcocet were scum together they got bopped so if we get 2 red lynches early on we should consider that team......

In other news Katys dumb lowercase letters gets us scumread

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purrcocet do u have any townreads or anything

u and shoshin i guess

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zulfy + luv gladiate

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What RC Cs isnt evidence its just katy posts like shes on tumblr

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Were Innocent My Guy

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Dunn posting isn't at all good and Katy randomly saying that they townread him feels very pocket-y

just because you dont understand how i read people doesn't mean it's random

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The self meta both doesn't make sense and feels scummy

what

^this is her last post

wig

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gives me no such presumed good faith even though she like usually trends towards giving me good faith

you don't deserve it this game and you're not doing yourself any justice right now

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How is "If I were trying to do X I'd do Y" not self meta

it's common sense, not "this is what i would do in this situation"

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Dunn isn't a solid vote. He's not even someone you'd vote apparently

Dunn's at the top of my suspect list. He's playing exactly like he did in another game where he was scum, making some setup comments, saying nothing about alignments.

yeah i'm starting to come around on this

VOTE: dunnstral

my initial take was him being jokey = him being townie which is *usually* true but it usually comes with the stipulation he's actually doing things with it

why are you scumreading zulfy dunn? i didnt really get that vote when i saw it

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also

VOTE: shoshin
VOTE: cowbells <-- sorry
VOTE: comcatco
VOTE: zulfy!!!!!
VOTE: uzi vert
VOTE: over soul
VOTE: errantparabola
VOTE: Flubbern Nugget
VOTE: dunn's tral

i think oversoul should be above zulfy and luv? i agree with the rest if i put you in our stead

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ep is probably townier than luv actually

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anyway

soshin is obvtown, i think raybells being comically wrong on me is not how he'd approach having me as a ml as scum considering i played in a game vs scum him where he specifically planned on ml'ing me, schadd is mindsyncing but fwiw i dont super strongtownread his content, i think oversoul's just kind of... leantown? like what he's saying makes sense and feels like its heart is in the right place for the most part

out of the leftovers dunn i think is the person that i'd get the most mileage out of voting, flubber i think is a good pick for cop because he tends to get misread often. im with purr that luv/zulfy are like dsajf;ldkfjal;da;dlfsja;dfjalsdkjf reads that i dont really know how to approach in general

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unless i missed a vote that's l-2

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like this is pretty awful

he'd make those specific posts as town? the issue is literally what's *not* there

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oh look who the cat dragged in

hi dunnie

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? how is that scummy...

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i like cant imagine you thinking putting someone to l-1 just because you wanted to put someone to l-1 is scummy, much the same like i dont believe you think i wouldn't say -ev


but at least on the second one i knew you were joking

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He's just conscious about how he appears

Thats no fun

UNVOTE:

you're not this tonedeaf as town :/

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do you really not see why as town i would change from a weak townread of you to a scumread of you here

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.................

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okay so zulfy's a townread now

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there's 7 other slots

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what happened to me? and why schadd?

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His read on me is very opportunistic and changes when other people start voicing suspicions

[citation needed]

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and also why did i become a scumread and then not a suspect... stop DUCKING THIS SMOKE

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Right now I'm more inclined to believe that you're scum who saw an opportunity to get me lynched rather than town reconsidering something, I do think you were a bit quick to call me town this game

???

and i know you *can* be good as scum, i've read hunger games among others back in the day

this just doesnt seem like town you. if you're town and weird i'll see through it but like......... there's a lot to pick at here

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that's fundamentally untrue but whatever this'll be like the 50th time we've fought about it

this just doesnt seem like town you. if you're town and weird i'll see through it but like......... there's a lot to pick at here

I wasn't very motivated to post in this game

Early on there wasn't a lot of reads stuff to talk about

i mean that's fair? but your zulfy read seems super tonedeaf to me and not something you would think of naturally

like it feels like a retroactive read

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This talk reveals nothing

no

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do you really not see why zulfy voted there and then immediately unvoted

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... no

have you really never just l-1'd someone for the sake of doing it? that really seems like something you'd do if you felt there was a reaction or something useful to get out of it which is why i find this whole interaction in general baffling

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^ this is @ dunn

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There's no reason to unvote immediately afterwards because somebody else unvoted

yes there is?? jdflsak;sdjflak;sdjfaskdfja;kldfa

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wig

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<:/

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Schadd seems like the type of person who will post no content to read him off of if you don't threaten him with a lynch

I think he's been scummy.

this is untrue

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he generally posts readable content as town and i feel he has? why does it feel unsatisfactory for you

Notably I've never seen gigs scum but she's doing literally everything that I would expect scum her to be doing

Not sure how much sense that makes

this is PROBABLY the 10th time i've told you this but every time in a mafia game you've said something that you've felt is characteristic of me you've been extremely off the mark

i know exactly what you mean but your personality profile for me as either alignment is and has been way off

pedit: i have 7 names

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bms

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bms

?

Can you explain what is readable

i can follow his train of thought and it makes sense to me? like idk how else to explain it he just feels pretty decently likely town

We could just lynch Oversoul

Idk I feel uncomfortably uncertain of my reads

why not dunn

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OK I think the 'why not dunn' comes from scum giga and almost never town giga

i genuinely hope you're joking about that reasoning fa;lskdjfaldksfja;lfd

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Katy ur RlY fake

you cant read me for shit and it's actually really painful

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i literally have said "why not x" as both alignments and i'm 100% sure dunn has seen me say it as town, if there's something about the context that makes it scummy then i'd love to hear it

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OK I think the 'why not dunn' comes from scum giga and almost never town giga

i genuinely hope you're joking about that reasoning fa;lskdjfaldksfja;lfd

I genuinely think that if you were town you would rather work with me or try to figure me out then go 'why not dunn' here

i've been trying to interact with you to get a read on you, considering that rc just said that you were "more than rand" my partner i think i have every reason to know why he's going from me to oversoul

Katy ur RlY fake

you cant read me for shit and it's actually really painful

have I ever mislynched you historically...?

no because we've only been town together twice and i flaked in both games?

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I want to know what purrcocet thinks, yes,they seem to have absolutely no opinions this game.

are you saying purrc has no opinions...?

You're acting like OMG RC MIDREADING ME is this thing

But I've iirc never rolled against scum you or mislynched you so

idk after our first game as town together i thought you like got my vibe or something but this is twice in a row you're acting like i'm lockscum

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first game as town together we mutually read each other correctly

the next game you thought i was bussing my scum partner as we were the only people pushing a scum slot early on and you scumread me

and now there's this game

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alt game i dont want to link for reasons but you know the alt and thus you should know the game

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This looks like a way you approach this as scum, you're arguing that you've said those words before, it's scummy in this context because the person you're trying to lynch is me

i mean as far as i could tell about your read it was only the words themselves, which even with this is still the case?

bb I'm old now and don't remember 100% of my games ever.

Can you give me some subtle hint as to what alt it is

the only alt i have that has a somewhat secret semblance of specification?

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It's the fact that you're so nonchalant "just lynch dunnstral" when I don't think that's how you act as town

im not "nonchalant just lynch dunnstral", i wanted to know why rc was looking at oversoul

pedit: 775 honestly is too revealing jsadl;fkjasd;lkajsdl;fak

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The reason it's scummy is that basic empathy makes her generally uncomfortable making that post treating you like an object while engaging with you but as scum she makes it anyway because she's not truly engaging you in the same way.

empathy only makes me uncomfortable as town in all honesty

like at best i find it hard to interact with things like you/shoshin because i dont know anyone's alignment, and actually sticky situations make me unwilling to play

i'm more than comfortable doing things like mislynching players I know? I have no idea why any of you would think this is alignment indicative

I think she's more hesitant to lynch me specifically as town

do you not remember bee movie mafia

i know i believe i said at some point in post game/dead thread that i townread you in the masonhood later when we stopped interacting but i had you as like a lock creature partner for a while...? until i had it to guilty/you/drone

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anyway "giga would be uncomfortable lynching me as town" is why i complain every time someone metas me, except this time instead of fighting shitty townreads im fighting shitty scumreads

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wouldn't shoshin be like, more useless as scum

do you not remember bee movie mafia

Do I not remember a random game that started over 2 and a half years ago? Not really...

Should I be giving it stock to how you're playing right now?

no, and also jesus christ the fact i remember all these games really shows how little mafia i actually play wth

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I just realized Dunn is literally confirmed scum

?

what happened now

No but actually um I think schadd is a wolf

okay

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Her townreads shouldn't be scum if she's town either!

i mean if schadd is scum then sure shoshin becomes a lot less town but For Now i find it really hard to see her as scum...

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i mean if schadd is scum then sure shoshin becomes a lot less town

Town are allowed to read people wrong

yes, and?

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okay, and?

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By the way, why are you scumreading me right now?

your zulfy read and me read dont make sense from your perspective

the me read less so because pushing you etc but still... you seem tonedeaf and not in a way i would think you would be

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like what usually makes you abundantly obvious town to me is that i can see exactly what your thought process is without you having to state it, and the observations you make, even if i dont agree, make sense

not doing anything until i pressured you isnt a good look either but im not going to say it's super strongly ai

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i am curious now though what schadd thought was scum indicative for you

pedit: that's L-1 btw

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<:/

i brought it up because i confidently pushed you as scum in the beginning, not because i felt my play was similar?? wh

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my play not being similar there is like completely unsurprising

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the game would have been balanced if you listened to the n1 kill and lynched guiltylion instead of their top townread

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Very weird response from you

it was a meme

of course the game was shit, it's a 2 1/2 year game why would i ever make a comment abt it

Why do you seem angry?

im not enjoying mafia in general and am mostly playing out of social obligation

this is probably my last game ever

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why are you unvoting me

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ugh

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i mean, i know people like me but that doesnt mean much when i basically flake from every game or be a bitch in the ones i dont. i'd rather play this game when i enjoy it and it feels like no matter the circumstances it just makes me upset in some way

luv are you caught up? what do you think about dunn

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i guess that really is why this game feels the way it is

idk, dunn just felt tonedeaf earlier but im kind of rethinking that read post pressure + not really sure where to go now

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i think i want to hear from schadd

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Literally noone is playing the way id expect them to

who is this referring to because like

rc is totally normal for himself
i think luv is too
i dont know oversoul but nothing about his play seems peculiar
dunnstral is definitely within personality if that makes sense
i dont know shoshin well
zulfy ive only seen outside of mafia but he seems Within Expected

like, if you want to vaguepost me then Dont and just say im acting weird

gigs did you ever give a read / reasons for read on schad

agreeing on reads but Apparently that wasnt a readlist so that kind of gets thrown away

schadd please dont ignore my extremely important question about dunnestrale even if you apparently scumread me

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wig!

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the annoying part of this game is that i basically know that my reads suck by virtue of the fact nothing really makes sense

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oh and luv to answer your question you're just generally a lowposter and that's true for this game too, i dont really know what's ai for you and i think the only time ive had a read on you once i was competent at mafia was in cowboy bepop and like my reads were extremely good that setting and more likely to be a fluke

i cant speak for purr but thats the assumption i got from him saying gladiate you/zulfy so

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raybells assume im town for a bit

dunn, if scum, is almost definitely getting bussed. who's the busser and why are their interactions specifically svs?

pedit: or it could just be thinking that only one of them is scum and the partner is someone else...?

all purr has really said wrt the game is "stop being a sad kt" which is like Okay but What Did You Expect

pedit: Katyusha

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i'm aware and im trying to go through the process of seeing how likely that is

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LUV normally has super high post counts

on god??

talk to me more about oversoul

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I have this gnawing gut feeling about something that I don't really want to talk about until tomorrow.

irl tomorrow or D2 tomorrow

what is the q about dunnie

what was the thing that made u think of his scum meta pre-him giving actual content

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uhh like active lurking

thats it...?

hghghghh

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like i thought dunn's early posting was v town-him but i can see him deciding to put effort into this scumgame and specifically do things i said i read for in him considering the pl that assumes he's specifically not scum with schadd, which would mean that his partner is either shoshin or flubber because im kind of skeptical his wagon picks up momentum this quickly unless he's town

i have mixed feelings about flubber and i still think shoshin is town until bop gives me reason to feel otherwise

UNVOTE: game is hard

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like i like that in micros it's actually realistic to think through the game via preflips but when the game isn't extremely easy it becomes a clusterfuck

also i guess zulfy should be included in the above since he was on dunn for a short while

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Me being partners with Dunn? Or something else.
Also I dont think I was ever on him, except for the vote

being theoretical partners with dunn

if dunn is scum i basically have flubber as lockpartner though now if it's any consolation so im probably going to figure out how im going to approach him at some point - like the first time i played with him i thought he was obvious scum and he was (but the n1 kill townread him so i was like mAYBE IM WRONG :/ - that game was a shitfest rip) and when i saw him as town he was kind of mechanically confirmed so idk how i would have approached him. point is (you dont need to know the meta here luv/oversoul) i dont know what im seeing in flubber is personality rn bc there's stuff abt him i earnestly townread but not really that strongly

purr thinks you're scum though zulf

pedit: if rc is scum then lol @ me thinking he'd approach having me as a ml differently

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I townread Dunn

im aware

my point is that dunn, regardless of alignment, has or had scum on him because literally everyone except oversoul and luv was on him at some point and im almost positive that that's not the team. call it a vibe i guess

i think him/rc interactions are not svs but that's mostly from rc's side so i wouldn't say it's super credible

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I guess he could be scum. I don't like his complaints about the game, 872 in particular.

idk what youre referring to exactly. there are several people in this game that i am very close with and/or have played with a lot such that its hard for me to do most normal scumhunting things - im finding it difficult to think of "is this a wolfy / towny thing" rather than "ohh hohh how does this fit with my EXPECTATION of the person" and "ohh hhh what if i am WRONG"

I feel like townies tend to doubly enjoy games with players they're "close" whereas it's the opposite for scum, you doubly hate the experience.

do you scumread me for this as well because this should apply to me...? i feel like at least half my posting is bitching abt something

i dont really strongly prefer either alignment though unlike schadd

I think scum complain about games a lot more than town, especially when it's a player who prefers town.

i dont think im complaining as much as clarifying how i am thinking the way i am - rc + katy + others probably claim to be able to sort me pretty reliably from thought processes and you'll forgive me but i'm kind of under the 8 ball at the moment

idk ive seen you be more transparent before but i dont think you're out of the realm as either alignment. i think if you're scum you're putting a lot of effort into this game though if that's any consolation

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yoink

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yoink

purr since you're here im giving you our slot's vote ftr

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katy take 2 advil and GO TF TO SLEEP bc im steering this ship

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VOTE: Zulfy

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parting thoughts before I (obviously katy but w/e) kind of distance myself from the thread a bit:

dunn is now like near locktown after a shower + thinking on it
schadd is not my choice of a lynch today But His Reads Besides LUV Suck - also hasnt made an effort to make use of THE PURRCOCET TELL notably
luv town and esp never scum with schadd so jot that down
shoshin still town and probably not s/s with dunn anyway
oversoul tr kinda gone

dont think anything else is relevant besides the fact that im not really going to fight a zulfy vote despite thinking sheeping rc is like Town Usually and that at some point im going to torture myself and read flubbernugget games

wait that's hammer

ok ccc is scum

what

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zulfy didnt even have votes?

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was the tell the thing you told me because i remember something but idk if it was the tell proper and i also sort of rememeber z hearing about it

yes and purr has not heard it

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rc you're high

please read the thread carefully

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then vote us and get this over with

hey katy see you at zulfys funeral later right? pensive emoji he just got lynched this afternoon... pensive emoji no idea how it happened

asjdfl;asjdflaj;dlfjk

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zulfy is triple hated

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if you want, sure?

i dont think shoshin hardbusses her partner if the plan is to hardbus, i think she gets hardbussed

in a shoshin/dunn world shoshin is a wagon that dunn is hardpushing, not vice versa

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or she's confident dunn isnt getting lynched, which is kinda <:/

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but....

why are you talking about your two top townreads being svs..........

because it's a specific read on my mind that contributed to dunn being townread?

dunn has only 1 logical partner fmpov and that's flubber, or oversoul if we're going to assume town all dogpiled on him and his partner had nothing to do with it but i think that's astronomically unlikely with this group dynamic considering no one seems to really trust each other

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like i went from

dunn's attitude is townie > dunn not doing anything anymore is scummy > dunn scumreading zulfy for that specific reason is scummy > a lot of people are pushing dunn so maybe i'm wrong > actually wow maybe i was right in the first place or flubber is scum > okay dunn is just town and im going to let purr steer because clearly i have no idea what im doing

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because you're not confirmed town and also you scumread me and shoshin so i'm assuming if you're town you're being heavily distracted by shinies this game...

do you really not see why from my pov you havent really done anything to make me trust your reads

i have a license you know

i have a driver's license but that doesnt mean you should get in a car with me

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scumread past tense

the beginning of the game...

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Dunn hasnt used the purcocrt tell because there is no purrcocet tell

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Dunn hasnt used the purcocrt tell because there is no purrcocet tell

dunn doesnt know the purrcocet tell

and.......................................... now i'm not

do you think that it's not pretty typical of me to push on town at at least some point in the game

i think it's very typical?? town!you gets distracted by bad spicy reads and omguses town sometimes, ive literally hydrad with you and have seen this happen <:/

like no one is perfect and that doesnt mean you're a bad player but yeah, you push town a lot because you generally push everyone at some point

also zulfy isn't scum

okay, talk to purrcocet about it

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whee lets play the rc isn't literally perfect so any claim to having above rand reads is meaningless because he was wrong at least some of the time

that's not what i was saying, but whatever this is probably an out of game conversation to be had not in game

ok i'm not necessarily gonna lynch ccc today but i'm gonna play from here as if they're scum.

that's not productive, there's literally nothing at this point that'll make you realize i'm town so you should be voting me right now

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if i don't flip scum d1 town loses. if you're town, do you want that? do you want to play into the gamestate of tomorrow where i led on town? why are you encouraging that as town?

because i'm confident that i won't get lynched (i've literally never been mislynched) and that we can get past this if you're town and see what happens when i get pressured and become a viable lynch

i dont necessarily know if or think that we lose if you lead on town, if anything unless the cop plays perfectly i think a scum lynch d1 could be pretty detrimental to this pl

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i also just in general dont understand why in any circumstance it would be unproductive to vote your top scumread

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okay, so why is schadd the best lynch/my most likely partner

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i dont have a townread on him anymore, im just skeptical of him being the best lynch right now?

and of course you can im pretty sure he's at l-2 :/

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i have no idea, hence why i let purrcocet vote

it could be schadd for all i know but what are scum doing about it if he's the partner? he's been the leading wagon for a while now

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what even is the votecount right now

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are you seriously just toying with me

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Schadd: RadiantCowbells, Dunnstral, Zulfy
Zulfy: Flubbernugget, CCC
Dunnstral: Shoshin, schadd
Oversoul: LUV
LUV: Oversoul

not ordered but i want to think abt this

no i actually just think you're too cute to lynch

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so based on that vc and my general feelings on the game

i think there's only one t/t pairing in

{flubber/zulfy} {rc/schadd} {luv/oversoul}

this is regardless of my actual reads on said slots, but i think shoshin and dunn are my strongest trs

if dunn is scum it's with flubber, im going to go ahead and say that shoshin makes sense with literally no one

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shoshin what're your flubber thoughts? do you disagree with me that dunn's only viable partner (assuming i am town from your pov ofc) is him?

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So far to me Flubber is town, so woohoo

meh

im not really sure which one is t/t myself which is why i havent attempted to contradict or double down on purrc's vote on you

solving flubber i think answers a lot of questions about the gamestate

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If she is fuck the dice roll

facts

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in what regard

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VOTE: Oversoul

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^ purrc and i talked and this is a compromise vote sort of

will talk about it more after i hear from shoshin

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yes, and?

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i'm not going to vote schadd just because welp im rc

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schadd is just a suboptimal lynch and i dont really care if im scumread for feeling that way? why do you care if im lynched or copped anyway if you feel im scum

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{flubber/zulfy} {rc/schadd} {luv/oversoul}

i think schadd/zulfy and schadd/luv aren't teams and besides the way ive paired them schadd is basically the only person who has like, eliminated teams

so even if schadd is scum i'd rather be looking into oversoul/flubber first

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which, if you're not paying attention, what what im trying to accomplish via talking to shoshin

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is what im*

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i dont really have a strong reason to eliminate any team comprised of two of {you/flubber}/{luv/oversoul}/{rc}, while i feel schadd/luv and schadd/you are both blatantly non teams

im looking at it like this because looking at individuals isnt getting me far as it is

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and the nice thing about micros is when you have at least a few reads you can figure out what play is correct like that

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i... actually townread him

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VOTE: Oversoul

i think pushing oversoul here comes from town more often than not, same w still being on the wagon despite what's happening

This game is a mess to be honest because of skipping RVS.

feels like a town comment

i also think schadd's townread is either correct or a townread from scum that's correct, if that makes sense

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Terrible beetlejuice, also look: I was right

idk lurker uzi seems like the norm to me now

okay on the flubber vote being opportunistic i guess, but i dont know what explicitly doesnt make that possibly town. like, if he were town who scumread flubber, why does he not make that set of posts

don't get your point wrt schadd's iso? why not ask uzi what changed his mind specifically

845 isnt an incomprehensible take

why is oversoul as scum questionable

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engage with him anyway?

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but i dont know what explicitly doesnt make that possibly town. like, if he were town who scumread flubber, why does he not make that set of posts

Oh and with this he had to have read the (bad) RC case on flub, yet that's entirely missing from his vote in favor of a wrong opinion

you dont think it's possible to have read flubber's push as disingenuous?

also schadd do u intend to move your vote to a productive place

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okay im sorry i snatched your wig but i really think dunnie is town here

It's possible, if weird. It's more the, THAT's his reasoning without any commentary on what RC said.

i dont know if i agree this is ai

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is that abt dunn or luv

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the wagons are ccc/oversoul while schadd is the leading wagon? on god?

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engage with him anyway?

Girl I tried

[citation needed]

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Thats peak scumposting

this isn't engagement...?

by the way its quite odd that u put stock into my uzi read katy .......

why

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idk it just doesnt feel like a read you'd make on a partner

you could be wrong but i townread uzi independently so

and zulf it's because you scumread luv not vice versa

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i was like "why it matter ???" since again i dont think ive given the impression that i have reads worth working off of and have specifically said not

and like it sort of felt like the scum thing where they too readily assume townies are thinking about Cool Stuff

it matters because i wanted to see if you saw something i didnt? i thought dunn's posting was pretty inline with town him but not out of the realm of scum him at the time, do you not see how if i didnt have a read on you that would help me form one

you saying he was just active lurking didnt really help i guess, i thought he like said something from the way you were talking about it

also the purrcocet tell is a shitpost... he's hardly posting in thread lol

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i mean, it does though

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also hasnt made an effort to make use of THE PURRCOCET TELL notably

like dude she told me about this once and i didnt even know if it was the thing and i only half remember what it is ??

It's not a thing. Just take it out of your mind. Thanks ^_^

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CCC..?

context here is that purr doesnt think he has a tell while i claim he has a very bulletproof one

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oh

i meant that, you voting dunn regardless for the reasons should and always does "count" unless it's clearly a sarcastic vote

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ie that vote counts

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where did literally everyone go

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Oversoul (4) Lil Uzi Vert (105), Oversoul (117), RadiantCowbells (130), Zulfy (355)

i completely forgot this wagon happened

pedit: wig

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oh wait no i remember i just thought oversoul's vote was someone else

that's less interesting

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what did you think of the solve i had?

where flubber/zulfy | rc/schadd | oversoul/luv is t/t t/s t/s in some order

am i prematurely eliminating something?

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I don't see why the team has to be structured like that

easiest way i can communicate that those arent teams and that you and shoshin arent scum

flubber/zulf i think is mostly eliminated from flubber's dynamic with him, it doesnt really feel like how flubber would react to his scumpartner playing in a goofy way from what i remember of it

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like i feel like he'd be making a bigger stink about zulf if he knew for certain he was scum and was pushing him

theyre still interacting but it's just like, interaction, not really anything else

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no im saying flubber did

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Ok i need to sort uzi real quick and we can take it from there

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First things first, RC why am I a scum read yet you are on town Catgirl?

Try reading that again

Oversoul idk how far uve read but ur dunn read hasnt changed..?

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So how do we feel about cop outing since scum cant cc

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No moderator error has been made. There is no investigation result to be publicized.

Figured

So im pretty sure regardless of what we do w the cop the last scum was off wagon

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I dont rly understand why (hence why i asked) but i’ll take your word for it

also that reminds me, zulf why didnt you vote luv at any point yday?

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Okay if that's the case we just do what RC wants.

VOTE: Flubbernugget

i mean yeah he literally voted luv but like, he jumped the gun on you pretty fast

im wondering why besides oversoul there never was really momentum your way

I think flubbernugget is the most likely mafia by a long shot

probably, but i think schadd and zulfy are still realistically candidates

everyone else is basically locktown in my eyes, so

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Bwuh

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Why does that make you think that

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zolf why did u have to be the wolf

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she doesnt disagree tho

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I do apawlogize

@schadd_ are u team zulfscum

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The LUV Scumread ?



Katy has smarter things.. to say.. but thats a big one

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okay first of all my lack of desire of playing mafia is showing i thought purr would be posting more but,

second of all why are we not voting

VOTE: zulfy

im gonna actually read the thread to see if anything that happened changed my mind but,

Katy better show hands then

uh from what i remember i dont really think flubber was scummy at all and your bravado abt luv felt kind of fake to me, i think people were way too willing to just call you town-but-annoying and not really think critically about what you've been saying and like esp in light of oversoul scum it's Garbage


like why is shoshin scum............ on god? fr?

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U prolly lie in all ur town games (ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh btw) so u can lie in ur scum games like u did here.

i... wig

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wow you really gotta love d1 scumlynches and the activity they bring to micros

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i guess there can only be content in this game if I'M THE ONE STEERING THE WHEEL

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flubber was pretty off wagon, and i don't remember anything impressive he did yesterday [or today]. dunnie said he was scum at the beginning of the day and i was like "oh! ok."

this doesnt, really seem like a reason to think it's affirmatively flubber

do u tr zulfy?

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like i think wanting a shoshin lynch here is scum motivated bc who tf is lynchable...?

schadd, flubber, and then wyd in lylo?

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flubber who do you think is mafia

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flubber who do you think is mafia

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also i think schadd asked but i dont think theres really an "appropriate" time to bus, i just dont think the OS lynch was a bus because of how spontaneous the whole thing was

call it gut ig but usually fast, empty wagons that hit scum are pushed by town

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do you understand the thing that happened today and if so do you have a reason not to care about it?

i dont understand

is this in reference to flubber? if so i mean ill look at his like 2 posts from today again and try to Derive what u mean but

Why zulfy?

Are we not taking the last flip into account?

i mean i guess rc dying first should be significant but i feel like he was in the lynchpool and unless someone thought they can mislynch someone who would have been townread from that flip (eg, shoshin) then rc being town and on a scumlynch gets outweighed by the fact that they need a lynch that can realistically happen

did you have a specific impression that rc would be lynching flubber before schadd? if you take into account his last reads that'd be his lynchpool so

i just wanna hear back from shoshin.

She has every reason to just wait out the next 22 hours

okay but i let purrcocet take the wheel and the game stalled as a result so... i think everyones gonna be lurking until the game gets rolling again

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oh uh i just saw the deadline

declaring intent

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i'll hammer probably tonight given no reaction

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From the giant cesspool of null yesterday you're the only player that actually looks like theyve towned it up.

why is this

my question of who is mafia still holds

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VOTE: Flubbernugget
Shoshin is still scum. 1343 is confusing me I might've written it wrong but also might not have.

Keep in mind she refuses, simply refuses to finish the interaction and labels me insisting on her doing so scummy.

...wig

i will say theres a part of me that worries that this is tvt since like ive been in shoshin’s position before as town and every time the other person flipped town but like the reason i wanted zulf was that flubber is like... doing nothing... while i feel like lynching on wagon rn is probably proscum