Micro 885: Crown on the Ground (Game Over)

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Hello. Is it me you're looking for?

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UNVOTE:

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He promised to use the abilities in "the town's best interest" not "our best interest" (but he did use first person plural at the beginning of the post when he's not a hydra!?!?)

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Sooo whoever got the crown can't hide and scum can't lie about who they voted for. That's good.

Only half of that is good

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This leans town pops. I don't think she was as aggressive as scum.

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Post 74 reeks. Very disingenuous reaction to a self-imposed post restriction. No actual town frustration with having an "unreadable" slot, or policy Lynch stance, or constructive words of any kind, just "don't lynch me when I refuse to play 12.5% of my mafia this game, thanks in advance".

I don't follow

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I don't like X Maya's vote on Dunn.

It reads like an RVS vote to me, does it not to you?

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popsofctown - Slightly Mafia
They seem overly agressive, and willing to jump on any reason to scum read people. Someone mentioned this could just be a difference in playstyle, but in my (small) expiriance people who play like this are normally scum.

I would bet that the people you played with are the exception rather than the rule.

Most people play equally aggressively as both alignments but the ones who don't are generally more aggressive as town. Being overly conciliatory is more often a scum trait.

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I'm confused about whether the crown should go to a scumread or a townread, now. Since crown ownership will be public and the scum can just NK whoever got the crown. Are crown abilities going to be like sane cop to punish us for giving the crown to a townread, or will it be publishing cop and 1-shot BP and roleblocker to reward us for giving the crown to a townread?

Compromise. Give it to a nullread. Someone who you wouldn't lynch but who also probably wouldn't die.

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I want to crown Dunnstral.
That way we don't crown scum.
Then he gets shot and we don't lose someone with good reads

Oof.

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I like Hectic. This is not alignment indicative.

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I suspect that if he were part of some nefarious enterprise, his partner would rather protect him

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Oh Hectic feels towny now.

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You're welcome to create the alt Aaa, if you so desire

(In fact, I think you could actually beat me by going A a, now that I think about it.)

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Also playing in a game with Aa and A a would be downright aamazing

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I think she's at least not as scummy as Drew who just seems way offtone and mysteriously difficult to accrue votes for

I feel like in my experience if someone is unduly hard to wagon it makes them usually town?

The majority of scumteams won't hesitate to bus if they get an opportunity.

Certainly going to be a very weak tell this early, anyway.

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No Drew is really scummy read his posts

Really? Those posts could not read as any less agenda driven.

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Btw I prefer playing mafia in person to most other social deduction games.

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Anyway yea last page seems to be a bit of a

No kidding I logged into my alt and then realized there was almost nothing to comment on

inb4 he was reading the scum PT

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But for some reason I really dislike the corresp votes. Like I haven't seen one vote that didn't have some real flimsy reasoning. So in some way I do like corresp as town too.

Wait, what

Is the last sentence here related at all to the first two?

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(jk I would probably townread you for taking any kind of stance in day 1 of a mafia game. But let's say...if Dunnstral did that)

I take way more hard stances as scum than town, especially early on

G&R II was me trying my damnedest to avoid spewing

anyone

town

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correspondence doesn't make sense as a bus in this gamestate

Uhhhh show work?

Scum making throwaway votes on buddies early without seriously expecting them to lead to a lynch is something that happens all the time and can happen in almost any gamestate except an extremely trigger-happy one which this is not...

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Have you like every voted a gimmick alt before? like you cast the vote and their aluminum skull starts crumpling and some groupthink interpretation of the gimmick emerges it becomes such a dogpile the mod locks the thread a L+2

I've played with gimmick alts before and this almost never happens...

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Regardless, it matter not what I think about a bus; it matters what their hypothetical partner thinks.

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And, you know, I haven't even asked yet about why there was definitely scum voting Correspondence.

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But you can't really have 0 scumreads... right?

Um 11 pages in?

Oh, man.

You are going to

love

playing with me.

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Is there a specific reason you want me to be voting right now?

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It's not a definitely it's a "likely"
Only a Sith deals in absolutes

True, but 240 seemed to imply you and/or gameplay were pretty confident.

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Don't see a reason not to. Unless you too don't have scumreads

I mean, I don't, but on top of that even if I did, a lot of times wagoning someone can make them and/or others harder to read, plus there's a risk of a premature derphammer or lolhammer.

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Each one of us posting a lynch list would be nice too

{Dunnstral, RCE, Egduf, Correspondence}.

In no particular order.

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Fair point, a good D1 lynchpool is usually closer to 1/3 of the players than 1/2.

{Dunnstral, RCE, Egduf}. Still in no particular order.

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Might be better to get it down to two, but I think that decision would really be arbitrary.

Besides, my late D1 method is usually to support any wagon on a player I don't townread.

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"lynch any nontownread D1" is just like the antithesis of all my beliefs about the game

And that's a good thing. The worst results come about when everyone agrees on everything.

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With what?

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I may not be able to post at all tomorrow.

Should hopefully be freer on Sunday before deadline but no guarantees. I'll be able to put down a vote at the very minimum.

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Lol.

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Oh we have 5 hours. So I'm an X-shot bodyguard.

How many shots?

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Bg crumb.

How is CIA a BG crumb?

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Do you see why I have trouble believing the crumb when the CIA is also associated with investigations?

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Not to litigate how to play Password or Codenames too much but pop culture emphasizes the CIA's violent outcomes more heavily especially the show 24. In reality I bet they do a lot more investigative work.

This is kinda what I was getting at; the CIA crumb could have easily been spun as a tracker or cop crumb. It seems like he was keeping his options open with it.

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Oh shit

Someone summarize what's going on for me