Ah also have some questions 'bout the game, like who da hell is this president that "can't be killed at night"? Is that just flavor or is it a player here? Cuz I don't see no Walter Sinclair on the players list, so it should have gone without saying that they could not be killed anyway!
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"Ah iz" town amnesiac, bitches!
Now the question is: who da hell are y'all?
Ah also have some questions 'bout the game, like who da hell is this president that "can't be killed at night"? Is that just flavor or is it a player here? Cuz I don't see no Walter Sinclair on the players list, so it should have gone without saying that they could not be killed anyway!
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Oh, shit! momo hasn't posted yet. I'll keep quiet for now, but I "should" be Jackal's replacement
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Am I cleared to post? You haven't announced it in thread and you haven't edited the replacement request either. You haven't even opened the confirmation PM
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Not gonna lie. I skimmed a little yesterday so I know what's coming regarding this, and I think this is a NAI move from you. Like, I can see it being a sincere truthful claim, yet I can see it coming from either town or scum you for various reasons.In post 7, mastina wrote:I am pretty sure I'd be enjoying this game if I wasn't a 3P who doesn't know my wincon and thus has no clue if claiming is okay or is a death sentence and who has no clue if I can win with the town or not.
But.
I am a 3P who doesn't know my wincon and thus has no clue if claiming is okay or is a death sentence and who has no clue if I can win with the town or not, so.
That said, I am not gonna push a 3P claim on D1 for the lynch. I don't usually have a problem with benign 3P roles.. just with the anti-town 3P (like SK; obviously).
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This is your first post.. you are only the 4th player to post.. and it's the 7th post in the game overall.In post 13, GreyICE wrote:Mastina, quick, whose your strongest town read, I need to know who to vote.
Now how the hell do you expect Mastina to have a "strong town read" at all?
I understand it's probably a meme, but come on.. it was so mistimed it practically killed the joke.
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Don;t you dare!In post 15, mastina wrote:Lessee here, who's an oldish player...uhh...
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Was there a N0 in this game??In post 29, cyrus62 wrote:
i think its good elements is dead but i want to know who among us took him out.In post 28, Menalque wrote:I barely remember my own name cyrus
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Do we know we have a Hero (as in.. the role in the wiki?). I went back to reread my role PM and it doesn't mention anything about there being a Hero. It's just the standard town PM as the mod posted it on the front page.In post 31, cyrus62 wrote:as to not lynch are hero on day1 by mistake but maybe the guy that cant be lynch today is are hero.
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If this is what you're talking about it's just flavour (I think) and does not mean we have that role. Like, it also says 3 "traitors".. do you think there are THREE scums and have no PT access?? Cuz that's how I'd interpret that paragraph if I wanted to take it to the letter.In post 3, momo wrote:Elements released a toxin that wiped out everyone's memories. Luckily, Vice President Gamma Emerald and I were spared. While I know that he is innocent, three among your number are traitors, loyal to The Chinese Communists. The secret service was prompt in their action, and one hero was able to kill Elements.
That being said, we only have 12 players and if 3 are scum I don't see how an anti-town 3P fits in, so either Mastina is Town-friendly or is fake-claiming
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The day I do NOT SR you is the day hell freezes over!
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Your wish is my commandIn post 63, Karnage wrote:When we reach the point for a lynch anybody who does not say “Get off my plane!” when they hammer should be modkilled
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EoP 5, and I know by heart that both Baezu & Doctor Drew are town here (I have other reads that I need to read more to evaluatem but these two slots are town, and Baezu is an even stringer TR than the "physician" )
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For me to understand your argument I need to know the alignments of both Gamma & EP in that game.In post 163, cyrus62 wrote:In post 50, Menalque wrote:I just think we can sort Cyrus later so there’s no need to pressure what is inevitably going to be mislynch bait atmPost Post #38 (isolation #5) » Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:28 pm
I’m gonna hard push the gamma slot a bit later, I’m also gonna call EP mislynch bait in a more general readslist unless you think that’s a bad move
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*Sigh*In post 172, mastina wrote:(To put it another way: I don't see any reason not to scumhunt. Scumhunting may not be necessary, but I don't see any reason not to. So, yes, my reads are, more or less, serious.)
I want to say something iin response to almost every post you make, but then I second guess myself as I don't know if commenting/asking what I want is a good or a goof idea (one letter, big difference!)
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EoP 8 and I'm feeling better about GreyICE.
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So, here's something that I've been trying to figure if it was AI: Both cyrus & Menalque have explicitly been speaking of "remembering their names" whereas others (Baezu) do NOT remember theirs. Since my role PM doesn't even address the issue I am assuming it's a way to signal being the Traitors to each other (and possibly to their third Traitor if there is one). I don't think whoever rolled president Walter would be as naive as to explicitly announce themselves like that (again, if we assume it's a role in the game).
And since I've failed to resolve the issue on my own, and since they're cross-voting each other I am asking for assistance on the matter.
Here's something that fits the flavour:
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Mastina, please try to be less confusing. Like, if I'm to take your claim at face value, the fact you didn't have an explicit win con in your PM is irrelevant. Check the sample town PM. I could swear before a law court that I didn't receive my win con either and I would be telling the truth (the same way Bill Clinton was telling the truth, mind you)In post 295, mastina wrote:I mean. I legit don't know my wincon right now,
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In post 298, The Fonz wrote:For funsies, anyone else want to tell me why?Spoiler:
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Can we vote the dead?In post 299, GreyICE wrote:going through momo's vote counts the following players have been voted:
The Fonz
cyrus62
Lil Uzi Vert
GreyICE
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Doctor Drew
Menalque
Jackal711
that leaves your scum list potential at
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mastina
elements
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Well, THAT is my main issue here. If we all received the same role PM then Menalque & cyrus have both claimed scum.In post 382, Karnage wrote:If/when Menalque gets to L-1, would there be any point to asking for a claim? don't we (town) all have the same role PM?
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EoP 16, and my read list is shaping up something like this:
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Doctor Drew
GreyICE
mastina 3P
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rosterfoster-------
The Fonz-------
Menalque <-----------------Know their name
cyrus62 <------------------- Know their name
Lil Uzi Vert-------
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Oops! Didn't mean to post that yet!
Anyway, Gamma is the same level as me tome, but to everyone else the mod only told them Gamma is town and he didn't confirm me, so that's why Gamma is a above me in my own read list.
I think Baezu is out of her scum range, and although I don't know Doctor Drew's scum meta this looks like town him.
Grey is poking and asking questions and generally speaking I sense he's being genuinely scum haunting.
Mastina is Mastina, but I may have let my other reads affect my read on her (I don't think she's scum with Menalque & or cyrus).
Karnage is somewhat playing similar to Grey, only with less effort. roster is roster but I can allow him some room here. Foz I only put him in the "more or less null" pack because Mastina TRs him hard.
Then come my main two suspects and LUV who I think I'm just comfortable calling him scum in every game for some reason.
Gun to my head I would say 1 scum in Lil Uzi Vert/roster/Fonz
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In post 404, Gamma Emerald wrote:Answer the question.
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What is?In post 438, rosterfoster wrote:
This is honestly a town slip from Cyrus (and yes, I know how paradoxical this is, but last time I saw basically exactly this I thought it was a scum slip.In post 436, cyrus62 wrote:I'm honestly not getting on the current menalque wagon at the risk of how i look for not doing so. if he is town then yes i bet their is scum on the wagon if he is scum then look off the wagon like i said I'm taking the risk . but from what i see aside from white knighting shit posting and lack of scum hunting.
Can someone outline the case on LUV?
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If you think I would have just accepted your claim without second guessing it you couldn't have been more mistaking. The more talented a player is the less likely I'd take their 1st page claims at face value.In post 451, mastina wrote:Hi Almost. The good news is, you don't have to sort my alignment
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Unless it was pre0designed as a 12 players game with a 13th slot flip at the stat that was always going to be a scum flip, and the mod decided to take it a step further and actually assigned that slot to a player who was always gonna die anyway.In post 454, mastina wrote:But then it was pointed out that the death of Elements wasn't just a flavor kill: Elements, flipped scum, signed up for this game as a player. Given that, there won't be three scum alive, since that'd have made the game be 4:1:8. 3:1:8, I can see as a setup; 4:1:8 I cannot.
Like, I'm neither arguing for nor against you here. I am just saying that if I take the flavour literally then there are 3 "Traitors" amongst the 12 of us.
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Why are you so focused on the VIG??In post 457, cyrus62 wrote:wouldn't that mean theirs a vig?
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It's "ah iz" not "I iz". Learn to speak Sam L JacksonIn post 461, Doctor Drew wrote:Nvm, I iz dummy.
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You're Morgan Freeman?In post 467, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm the VICE President
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Both are fine lynches to me, but Melanque more so. LUV prefers to play scum so he's not too engaged when he's town (note: he's not disengaged to the point he gets prodded though, so I am not yet confident of his alignment, and I do like to brand him scum because his play is always scummy to me whether he is engaged or not).In post 494, rosterfoster wrote:@Cyrus/A50: Can you think about the main wagons at the moment (AKA Menalque and LUV)?
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FTR, I retract these two posts. At first I had thought cyrus (and only cyrus) claimed he knew his name, so I thought he might be crumbing president. Now that I know TWO players claimed they knew their own flavour names I am of the opinion one Traitor (their 3rd) is superior to the others. They both got informed of the identity of their 3rd (but not each other), so they have to wave at them while that "mysterious leader" didn't have to out. Shall I go on speculating that the leader is the one calling the shots??
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I did! Momo uses my modding colour so I'm obliged to read it all out of courtesy at the very least. Why would you think I had not?In post 520, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also A50 obviously didn't read the "mastina lynch proof" part
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Can you please reread that second quote? ONCE SCUM in them three. The other 2 scums are Melanque & cyrus, and I explained why earlier.In post 557, Karnage wrote:In post 556, Almost50 wrote:Both are fine lynches to me, but Melanque more so. LUV prefers to play scum so he's not too engaged when he's town (note: he's not disengaged to the point he gets prodded though, so I am not yet confident of his alignment, and I do like to brand him scum because his play is always scummy to me whether he is engaged or not).
What makes Melanque the better lynch when he's not even one of your top 3 scum candidates?In post 548, Almost50 wrote:Gun to my head I would say 1 scum in Lil Uzi Vert/roster/Fonz
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You all wanna get F'd?????In post 563, Karnage wrote:I think he speaks for the majority of us
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I dunno that game, but I know I would probably have used that if it occurred to me.In post 564, Gamma Emerald wrote:@A50 what you propose sound a bit like Secret Hitler actually
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Oh! Pushing Mastina for the lynch you mean? Scratch that. I was eating while typing, so half my brain was enjoying the food in my mouth!In post 567, Gamma Emerald wrote:How do you say what you do in this post knowing Mastina can't be lynched?
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Thank you. I'll take that as a compliment.In post 568, Karnage wrote:FWIW these reads are trash
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Several, but I had London has Fallen in my head at the time.In post 572, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Which movie are you referencingIn post 555, Almost50 wrote:
You're Morgan Freeman?In post 467, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm the VICE President
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^I had to look up the name of the movie. All i remembered was it was a Gerard Butler one.
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I want both Menalque and cyrus to explain how they know their flavor names before I put Menalque @L-1
This is you chance (both of you) to shoot down my theory about the "Traitors", so do your best or eat rope.
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Thank you, my sweat little bear.In post 582, Karnage wrote:well shit I guess we can all agree he's confirmed town then
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Yeah, WRONG ANSWER! You're just another Alisae (from Boon's Attack of The Colognes). He tried to communicate with other scum team and I caught him and he tried to wiggle his way out of it like that.In post 588, cyrus62 wrote:
flavor name? i know my names cyrus62 and thats about all i know besides every thing else that was stated in post 1 -5 the whole name thing was a joke in it self . you know you get hit in the head and dont remeber nothing.In post 583, Almost50 wrote:I want both Menalque and cyrus to explain how they know their flavor names before I put Menalque @L-1
This is you chance (both of you) to shoot down my theory about the "Traitors", so do your best or eat rope.
In post 40, cyrus62 wrote:roster how do we know you good? where were you last night do you remember . because
.i can only remember my nameIn post 262, cyrus62 wrote:In post 261, Doctor Drew wrote:Ok Cyrus, here's the deal man, you are starting to ping me like it was the Newbie game we played in. So I want to give you benefit of the doubt here.
Why early on did you say you didn't trust me?
And like I said, I will post the scum PT from that game, but it will be as disappointing as the Mueller Report.
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becauseso I'm trying to find who i trust and the only game i know you from is you as scum which you had every one fooled your good at scum so i dont trust you give me some reads to go by who do you think is town and who do you think is scum.all i remember is my name
If it was a joke about your user name why'd you have to say it THRICE? (I'm not even bringing up the Vig hunting). You were clearly and persistently trying to get "something" across to "someone".In post 362, cyrus62 wrote:i already sorted every one but 3 players one reason is i cant lynch one . this leaves two the other reason jackeal isnt posting at all this leaves one and i am currently going over the last ones actions and tones so yes i have lookeed in to all the other 11 players and two of them seem to be scummy to me you and doc. now a little wouldnt it be funny if the cop and doctor didnt know they were pr lol. i mean i haveSpoiler:.no idea who i am right now besides my name
P.S. Not knowing "who you are" aside from your name confirms you as NOT the president either. You just dug in your own grave.
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At least Menalque did it ONCE! ItIn post 28, Menalque wrote:I barely remember my own name cyrushave passed undetected (or at least been dismissed by the majority if I brought it up) if it wasn't for you, cyrus. (So, thanks.. I guess!)could
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@Gamma: Please do look at the coloured parts of the 3 posts. Tell me this is isn't a "crumb". I'll put it to rest if you say it isn't.
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And -of course- it would have looked like nothing if the Town Role PM had any reference to "names". Alas, only the president's name is there so unless he has been cloned I don;t think you're getting away with this.
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And what do you think?In post 594, Karnage wrote:
I'll admit you've gotten my attentionIn post 593, Almost50 wrote:@Gamma: Please do look at the coloured parts of the 3 posts. Tell me this is isn't a "crumb". I'll put it to rest if you say it isn't.
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Yeah, consider Menalque @L-1 already. I just don't want him hammered before he comes back and responds to the same question here.In post 597, Karnage wrote:it's either a smoking gun or a red herring. No idea which yet but I'd be willing to test it with a Melanque lynch
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Again, you don't say "I only remember my name" THRICE .. 100 posts apart each .. if it was just a reference to your username. We all received the same role PMs (most of the town, I mean) and nobody said anything similar. There has to be a catch and your response isn't holding water.
But we are lynching Menalque anyway, so we will know for sure if it was just a coincidence.
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Would you agree that if Menalque flips red that it's nigh impossible that you said that 3 times was a mere coincidence?
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And..?
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mate, it was a simple question and the ideal answer was either yes or no. I didn't ask why you're not voting him. I didn't ask for your scum read or why.
The question again is: IF (condition) would you agree (result) is true? Condition is: Melanque flips red. Result is: You look 100% guilty.
Your answer is..?
Also, how likely is it for (insert random player's name) to repeat the same thing you did 3 times over 300 posts? More to it: WHY?
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@Karnage: Good catch. We "don't know who we are" (In our role PMs .. last paragraph), but "they" obviously haven't lost their entire memories, and thus can still remember their own names.
@cyrus: Trying to get out of RVS in post #262?? Post #362?? Come on now. I rest my case.
P.S. Thank you for the response though.
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Everybody please remember this quote for after cyrus flips.In post 642, rosterfoster wrote:Cyrus is completely incoherent, sure, but I think this whole stuff about scumslippijg makes absolutely zero sense.
Also, why would cyrus suddenly change his mind and decide to put his "town read" @L-1? (more tinfoil: I low key can see it Fonz' way, meaning Menalque "may" be town, and cyrus decided to use that flip to his advantage after having been hard WK'ing).
Oh, there's also that advertisement (that I never read before):
That's even BETTER! "You only know your alignment" is explicitly mentioned here, as well as "you don't know you role". Now why does it not say "you don;t know your name" despite the starting question being "state youIn post 640, GreyICE wrote:Please state your name and claim your role for the record. What's this, you don't know your role? You only know your alignment you say?nameand claim your role"? It's because some players (scum) do know their names, and some (town) don't. It had to be obscured or it would have constituted a mod lie.
I am at lynching cyrus (and I am already voting there so won't change my vote) and after he flips red I'd put Menalque/roster at the same level of "extreely sus" and Karnage as "less so but still a suspect" (it's because he also acknowledge I may be up to something but suggested we test it through the lynch of Menalque instead)
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@cyrus: Why'd you suddenly decide to vote Menalque?
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If both bith cyrus & Menalque are scum (more to it if Menalque is) I think LUV is very likely Town here. (I'll have to wash my mouth now for putting LUV and Town in the same sentence)
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You're right. I am not reading.In post 651, cyrus62 wrote:
are you even reading i dsaid i wont defend him nor did i say i seen him as town your whole case seems reaching meaning you dont realy have one but wanted every one to think you were going for your partner then you flip the wagon on me over the words i know my name. as stated thire is no flvor name . would the joke i can hardoly remeber how to tie my shoes been better.In post 649, Almost50 wrote:@cyrus: Why'd you suddenly decide to vote Menalque?
Menalque wasn't your TOP TR right after the IC.In post 128, cyrus62 wrote:yes so my reads as of now are
town
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Gamma Emerald
Menalque
Baezu
these are my town reads
I'm sure you meant "lookingIn post 377, cyrus62 wrote:luv is a very possable scum bad votes lack of content but i have seen some prs don't post a lot .menaque is looking for scum i think.likescum", eh?
It's not like you did just that.. voted him to L-1In post 378, cyrus62 wrote:Menalque is at l2 so no one vote him with out given him a chance to defend.
Again, you said you were NOT getting on the wagon, so why did you get on it?In post 436, cyrus62 wrote:I'm honestly not getting on the current menalque wagon at the risk of how i look for not doing so.
This isn't an indirect TR, right? I mean, it's highly doubtful he's scum, but I'm not town reading him either. 3P read??In post 604, cyrus62 wrote:my top scum reads are roster and doc soi highly dought menalque would be scum
So, in sum I apologize for misunderstanding!
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Let me try again.. (you sure seem amnesiac now )
In post 128, cyrus62 wrote:yes so my reads as of now are
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Menalque
Baezu
these are my town reads
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It's not that you voted your TR. It's that you were against that lynch until recently. It's that you "forgot" what reads you had in this game and how they progressed. I'd say it's more likely for someone to forget a made up read than to forget an actual genuine read.
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