Magical Girls UPick - Heart of Shadow (Game Over)

[RadiantCowbells]

A) Bold of you to assume your slot is gonna be alive at Lylo.
B) The world doesn't revolve around your slot (From Nine)

If I'm scum? Probably gonna be.

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Do we think it's possible that everyone who isn't Croag/LLD/DDL is town?

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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I would vastly prefer we lynch HH both today and quickly so no player ends up cornered by a replacement into that slot.

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I don't want RcE dead at all

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Bad vote and it makes me wonder about you.

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deep wolf deep wolf deep wolf deep wolf deep wolf deep wolf deep wolf deep wolf deep wolf deep wolf

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I want to make an [is that a mason partner] meme but that seems like it would take a lot of work

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titus do you remember when you were all 'yeah LLD is my base this game instead of you because i trust her more'

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Do you think RC's play was good? That RC randomly fighting with town and throwing his weight around helped?

What do you think is fair to him? What I told RC might not have been what he'd like to hear, but I think he needed it.

my play led me to have a shit ton of townreads and a scumread on every non-falsely-confirmed scum, 3 of which we led on on a d1 where we only really voted 6 people and 2 immediately became trs.

[RadiantCowbells]

titus assertions about my play: fact or fiction

If you did what he said I wouldn’t have been quick lynched?

RC was the one pushing your lynch soooo

complete fiction and actually the opposite of true

Tana wanted LLD alone. RC conditioned that on me being scum as well.

complete fiction

RC violently tunneled SS long after it was productive.

not too far from fact in the sense that it could be claimed this is what happened from a slant, i guess

He engaged in a pissing match with me when I tried basic scumhunting because it wasn't his mislynch du jour.

fiction because you were trying to mislynch town and i was trying to correctly lynch HH. aka, it wasn't a mislynch du jour. it was a scumlynch du jour.

He pushed many town players to wagon status by stifling dissent.

I only led 1 mislynch this entire game, so fiction.

He didn't want the RCE wagon that was deep hammerred.

I 180ed about whether or not RcE was an HH scumpartner. while it is a

fact

that I did not, my preferred wagon was also scum.

By the time he lynched HH, town was so demotivated we just did what he said, which is how you got quicklynched.

again, utter fiction given that dannflor was my tr

If you did what he said I wouldn’t have been quick lynched?

reality isn't as important as finding reasons to accuse my play of being bad

[RadiantCowbells]

I 180ed about whether or not RcE was an HH scumpartner. while it is a fact that I did not, my preferred wagon was also scum.

also not only is this true, the first thing i messaged sakura after finding out that rce was lynched was that i was fine with it bc i thought RcE had high probability of being scum
so essentially you're faulting me for having a stronger scumread on one scum than the other scum.

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titus you're clearly mad at me for the way I make you feel, not the results

maybe you should make an argument on that ground instead of trying to stretch and distort to try to argue why my play is -suboptimal- when it clearly worked really well for us.

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it's funny because fake guilties are a lot less damaging to town than fake innos

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???

there was literally no correct option krazy: i believed that LLD was a mason.

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also when did i threaten to throw a tantrum

i

LITERALLY

said that i wouldn't mind if he shot elsewhere, because I couldn't feel sure enough about you guys flipping scum

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hi gameplay

i won't hate you if you shoot elsewhere btw.

tada

like

if i'm so horrible, why do you guys have to keep lying and distorting reality to complain about me

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is it not enough for you that you don't enjoy playing with me? why do you have to lie to make me out to be this demon who is hurting town wincon and playing against my wincondition
can't you just say 'well i do not enjoy playing with RCs dictatorial style and it makes the game less fun with me and I will choose to avoid him on that basis'
as opposed to RC is playing against his wincondition!, or RC is responsible for this loss!, or RC is responsible for the mislynches of people he hard townread!, or RC is setting out to ruin the game for people!

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Eventually, you'll reach the point where you're better than everyone else.

:thonk:

RC, by arguing the accuracy of your reads justifies your play misses the point. While I disagree with some things (see pg 131), convincing you your reads suck doesn't help you learn anything.

Feelings are related to results. Town players perform better when supported. Your dictorial style negatively impacted both SS and myself who Tana told you were town. It stopped the LLD guilty from being exposed. It stopped me from getting underneath LLD's claim. It stopped SS's ability to contribute.

The more you dictate, the more your reads must be perfect. There are players who read not based on claim and based on feelings. This is just as valuable in mafia. When this gets silenced, scum can win. A feelings based player catches LLD fast.

No. I told Tana that you were town, she didn't tell me that you were town. Please explain to me why you believed otherwise unless you're trying to erase my accomplishments.
I scumread LLD as well. I would also never vote a mason claim with a 100% conftown mason partner unless I was 100% sure that everyone else was town.
I think that you being willing to is a more dangerous sort of egotism than anything that I said in this game.

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Your actions relate to your ego which makes the game easier for emotionally savvy scum.

I got strongman killed N1 as a role whose only real ability is to keep itself alive. You lived to endgame as a vigilante who only shot town.
You keep alluding to this ~different skillsets~ argument but if anything, I'm better at hunting ~emotionally savvy~ scum than anyone else because I know how to read AtE better than anyone I know of.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think the takeaway for this game is that we should start considering whether players like LLD are scum when she's

in a reasonable world

confirmed town.
The takeaway is that we shouldn't be putting players who could potentially be scum in a position where they're

in a reasonable world

confirmed town.
This wasn't some sort of mechanics fuckery where there was room for multiple interpretations, this was a town player literally claiming an inno that wasn't true.

I have no regrets about my decision not to go after a claimed mason. I'll continue to not go after claimed masons. I think my play was right even if it led to a loss.
Don't fakeclaim mod confirmed knowledge of people's alignments.

[RadiantCowbells]

RC, you can either get defensive and keep making the same mistakes or you can get real and learn to support all skillsets. I am trying to prevent you from going down my road.

Wisdom miss you. I'm trying to grow here as a player. Would love to see you around.

I don't agree that my mistakes were mistakes though. I've learned to ignore Katsuki's cop results, does that help?

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Until then, I hope to draw scum in your games

gl with that

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And he made the push on HH slot uninformative because so much of it was about his personal reaction to their replace out.

MY ENTIRE HH CASE HAPPENED BEFORE THEY REPLACED OUT

WHY DO YOU INSIST ON LYING TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD

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does HH count as the queen in this

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like i think even that fails to capture just how pointless the situation was

it didn't matter who we lynched, we were eventually losing, we were past the event horizon when LLD was falsely confirmed town and Katsuki was dead.

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that really doesn't make sense krazy

but ok

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i think secretly dannflor was the wolf the whole time

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the lesson i learned is that i am the strongest, smartest, most skilled, and most attractive scummer on mafiascum.net and i just need to keep living my sexy life

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pfft. friends are for the weak. who cares if everyone else is miserable as long as you win the game

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obviously i'm serious. making friends means making weaknesses. having weaknesses means losing future mafia games. that's what this has always been about, winning as many games as possible.

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i would be your friend but i was under the impression you don't much care for me.