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[GreyICE]

@Titus: I have trouble reading you on the best of days. But I'm trying to be less of an ass so I won't suggest lynching you to make my life easier.

For everyone else, hi!

Vote: Flubber

[GreyICE]

Oh come on, there better not be a cult.

Cults, I'm a shit recruit, I just suicide myself and complain. Don't recruit me kthx

[GreyICE]

About being a garbage recruit? Yeah, I'm an awful recruit. About disliking cults? Also yeah, I dislike cults.

Y'know, in the absence of a hard flip I'm scumhunting and I'm going to 100% not care what flavor the scum comes in.

[GreyICE]

Um, yes? My role PM doesn't say anything about cults.

Is there a general point to this besides making a lot of noise about nothing useful?

[GreyICE]

Well that's good, I'm not selling shit. I'm looking for scum, and absent flips this is a giant distraction from that.

Speaking of, your vote is currently flapping in the breeze. Any alignment indicative things happen yet?

[GreyICE]

Okay, I checked it and it said "just a possible cult-like situation" which to me says someone could swap alignment. Anything from a town who turns traitor (or into a serial killer or something) to someone who can recruit for a scumteam or somesuch. Doesn't say "full fucking cult" to me, partially because, well, cults are basically unbeatable in small games.

Regardless, this is a giant waste of time and energy. I prefer BEF's new direction after ignoring it.

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

[GreyICE]

OMGUS VOTE: greyice

You're not the first scumbutt to try this trick, and you won't be the last. Wanna dance? I'm down.

[GreyICE]

I enjoy dancing . Waltz? Swing? A blues or Fusion perhaps?

Tell me ice man, how am I the scum butt here?

The moderator sent you a role PM that said you wanted to kill us at night. It's very unfortunate, but now I need to lynch you to win. Just how it rolls.

Meanwhile however, I'm fine sheeping a hydra that's making sense.

VOTE: Senator

P.S. *hugs* Titus. Lots of love from me and LLD, and hope to catch you at another meet. Maybe we'll get a chance to play that game (I want to say it was Monarch?)

[GreyICE]

Gobble, please claim your full role abilities, and the fact you revealed N1, not today, and why you quickhammered.

Gobble, you're confirmed town, do whatever the fuck you want.

Seriously. What are you doing here, scumhunting Gobble?

[GreyICE]

No, I'm sorry, it's not "scummy as fuck" if you're town. Town can't be "scummy as fuck" because scumhunting is about FINDING SCUM, not about checking off some checklist of how to play the game properly.

What really gets me here is that you were voting for Senator. So you agree that he was scummy. And why not? He was scummy. What are we supposed to do if a scummy person is like "I'm not claiming". Go "oh okay, that makes sense, guess you're unlynchable now?"

Turkey, why instantly hammer?

This really feels like you were planning to blame him for the hammer and are sticking to the plan. It's not a good look overall.

[GreyICE]

Very surface level, much yawn.

Korina town.

VOTE: drew

~Dr Rockso

Hey Hydra? Can I offer you some advice? If you think I'm town, let me work. If you see me rallying a wagon and disagree, then it's a good time to do this shit. Otherwise, let people do their thing. This is not the mordhaus show.

Okay, well I guess it actually is kind of technically the mordhaus show BUT YOU GET WHAT I MEAN

[GreyICE]

@Titus, I've stated numerous times as well that if you look at my ISO, you'll find what I am.
Apply what I'm softing and do the math on why I really want gobble to claim.

At this point with Senator basically throwing, I've lost my ability to give a fuck as well. I don't care if he's confirmed town, if he's gonna borderline throw, I want to know why.

Pedit: @GrayIce, I'm a mason. Look at my ISO to find my partner.

/me headbutts desk

I literally just wanted to

A) See who would bite with an actual vote
B) get your head in the game of scumhunting

Because Day 1 had approximately zero content except a self-indulgent prick making up claims and then wondering why everyone was voting him.

[GreyICE]

(that's Senator for the record)

[GreyICE]

Where's that?

[GreyICE]

Korina's reaction is wierd but it's dumb to push a claimed mason...

Titus, curious where you think I'm at.

[GreyICE]

Korina's reaction is wierd but it's dumb to push a claimed mason...

Titus, curious where you think I'm at.

Read the quoted post. That's where I think you're at. Am I wrong?

Um... you didn't quote a post here:

VOTE: Drew

I'll see where this leads. Since you claimed your Mason buddy is in your ISO, I'm willing to teaction test this since Grey seems to be in the same place I am.

I'm probably being blind as fuck.

[GreyICE]

oh in there!

Yes, that's where I'm at.

I guess at this point I just would like to find some town and scum.

You wanna be pissy at someone, how about the dildo's who pushed that wagon in the first place, that entire sequence was garbage

What the fuck was bad about it, especially for a page 3 wagon?

I love people who show up after the fact to tell us how we're all garbage. Christ, was it the best wagon in the world? Obviously not, it ended in a ditch, but the reasons were good enough for where we were in the game.

[GreyICE]

Didn't you open the day by voting me?

[GreyICE]

VOTE: GreyIce

With the VCs and TD's death, I want to start here.

You did, based on VCAs and TD's death of all things.

Not that I put a huge stock in VCA when someone has a meltdown in thread
but what is the logic there?

[GreyICE]

@Grey

Do you think there were scum on the Senator wagon?

Probably. There's only four living players who weren't on the wagon so while a scumteam of Emperor/Roster/Elbirn wouldn't shock me or something (actually specifically Elbirn with the way he's been pushing "that wagon is all SCUUUMMMM" despite three actual confirmed townies on it) it also would be... not a first, but fairly surprising. I'm pretty sure I've seen an all-town day 1 town lynch, but I couldn't name the game.

Would 1 on/2 off surprise me? Not really. Nor would 2 on/1 off. I feel hard pressed to say it's 3 on or 3 off, both seem extreme. But my overall sentiment is I agree with what Mordhaus said. I wasn't going to come out and bag on the dead too hard, because that's tacky, but Senator fucking sucked (and if you're reading this, next game, please don't do whatever the fuck that was my dude). I have a hard time seeing votes for him as super alignment indicative. My strongest read off the wagon is that Elbirn apparently thinks Senator was the god of town, and I don't fucking see why. I'd like to push it, but I'd like another ~24 hours to see if something happens that I'm curious about.

P.S. Yes, this all goes out the window if there's a cult or something non-standard Korina.

[GreyICE]

I voted you to immediately start the day.
I unvoted when we had the same reaction to the Korina posting. That's what I was referring to with logical synergy.

I'm caught between a rock in a hard place because I like you but your flip gives a fair amount of info for the game state at large.

I'd say what info
And then you'd tell me
Then I'd get annoyed it doesn't make sense
Then you'd get annoyed because it makes perfect sense and I can't be this thick
Then I'd get annoyed that you're annoyed because it doesn't make sense
Then you'd get annoyed that I have a tiny T-Rex pea brain
And we'd get dramonic's game all over again

So lets stop this and we both owe each other a few shots of whiskey or whatever your favorite poison is next meet.

I'll accept it, and I can see where TD's death looks like it might be me because we were barking at each other at game start, and hells if I'm against NK analysis. Speaking of, why would someone want to kill TD? I don't have much experience with him.

[GreyICE]

TD might be a frame kill looking at the analysis. TD mentioned my VCA. TD was early on voting you.

It could also be scum Grey killing town TD as a variable he could not control.

His partner may have picked the kill. I legit don't have enough experience with scum!GreyIce to look at NKA at any detail.

I'll buy you a whiskey if you buy me a vodka. Just be sure Lexi knows its platonic.

Eh... none of those feel right (I mean obviously the ones where I'm scum are off ). I was wondering more if he had a history with people here. It's probably a bit of a rabbit hole, I was just wondering if someone had personal experience playing with him that you knew of and might have gone for a respect kill.

And Lexi doesn't care if it's platonic, as long as she's getting some of the whiskey.

[GreyICE]

I don't have anything to say I just hate missing out, hi everyone

Elbrin whos scum off the senator wagon besides ice

I'm not gonna act like I have a fuckin clue but they're somewhere in

~☆the lurkers☆~
Maybe drew despite what I said earlier
Titus hasn't given me happy tummy feels yet
Mord doesnt really impress me mostly because all they do is shitpost and theres not much in the way of content but I feel like if I tried just a little bit harder they could be town

I mostly just..want people to actually engage and play right about now, hopefully flippynips can dazzle me today because they're not my favorite person rn

So to summarize, your town reads are the masons, and the confirmed townie?

[GreyICE]

Okay mr. "Haha dont look at me it was a page 3 wagon" if ur so smart then who are your town reads?

... the confirmed town and Mordhaus. And maybe Titus if I ever fucking get a handle on how to read her.

Okay, yeah this game blows chunks.

Fuck me I want to get home and write a big long post about something.

[GreyICE]

Like I want to say Flubber because I've worked well with flubber.

But no. No town read there yet.

[GreyICE]

I dunno the game I'm thinking of he low key lurked and nailed the entire scumteam.

But then again I replaced in in LyLo so it's not like I got a whole game of interaction with him.

[GreyICE]

I'm kind of interested in that, because I have role related info that I'm town. I'll claim if you want me to, it's not like I'm very worried about getting night killed and my role is crap.

[GreyICE]

The correct way to do it would be to have me claim so you could catch me fakeclaiming
Then reveal
Just for the record

[GreyICE]

I also bet I know what the info is, and yeah, Senator was really wrong about everything.

[GreyICE]

I try Elbirn, I try. For the future, if you have info like that, you should try to catch the scum in a clear fakeclaim. There's literally no downside to having me claim the role before you

I'm Toki Wartooth, Vengeful Klockateer. Apparently the band had the idea to summon aliens after watching The Thing. I was going to catch them in a cage but I fucked up, so I'm hiding with the Klockateers. I'm brutal enough to not go down without a fight.

[GreyICE]

In what universe would I crumb "vengeful townie"? In case scum counterclaimed me? Like... 'kay, they could do that.

The closest is I didn't really give a fuck if TD actually got a wagon on me, but my idea was more to scumhunt than try to get myself lynched so I could try to shoot scum.

[GreyICE]

Meta is fucking bullshit, but I can give you about a zillion games where I didn't crumb much more impressive roles than "vengeful townie".

[GreyICE]

Okay, it's time for my wall post. First, I've been trying to see who believed my claim, versus who challenged me. I know that scum would trust my claim, and look to avoid getting shot if I was lynched, while I figured town might be like "I don't believe you, fuck you, get hung." If nothing else, even if I did get run up, it would give me some idea who to shoot.

Unfortunately I have ONLY ONE READ FROM THIS. The only people who have antagonized me even a little are either confirmed town (who are... town). So FUCK THE POLICE. You know what this game isn't? IT ISN'T BRUTAL. THIS IS THE LEAST BRUTAL GAME OF MAFIA EVER. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE. THAT IS FUCKING UNACCEPTABLE. IT IS TIME FOR SOME BRUTAL READS.

Emperor flippyNips

- Is busy. That is NOT metal. METAL GOES HARD. YOU ARE SOFT LIKE JOE BIDEN'S DICK. THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE A FUCKING ALIEN SCUMSUCKER THOUGH. YOU ARE

NULL

RosterFoster

- This man has not posted on MafiaScum since September 8th. HE MAY HAVE BEEN EATEN BY ALIENS IN REAL LIFE. THIS IS

NULL

. NOT BRUTAL

Mordhaus

- OUR HOME IS FUCKING BRUTAL AND METAL AND AWESOME. IT'S TOO BAD ITS INFESTED BY THAT SMELLY PERVERT DR ROCKSO. BUT WHO THE FUCK CARES. HE IS

TOWN

.

TITUS

- She kicked her husband's balls so hard they flew through the top of his skull and landed on a mountain where a wolf ate them. THAT'S FUCKING METAL. IT'S TOO BAD IT MAKES IT HARD TO READ HER THOUGH.

I honestly want to say she's town. Despite something that gives her a clear excuse and permission to fuck off and live her own life, here she is, trying to help us. If anything, my biggest reservation is that she makes too much sense. I usually don't understand Titus' logic. Then again, that's meta from like four years ago, and FUCK META. META IS READING OLD GAMES. OLD GAMES AREN'T METAL.

But seriously I'd like to slot her in as

TOWN

here.

Flubbernugget

- I'll be honest, I think this guy is town. It's a little bit gut, it's a little bit he's active and his activity has coincided with people I don't like wanting to lynch him. It's the weakest of my TOWN reads. Oh and dude? Selling yourself short by saying your good reads were a fluke? THAT'S SOFT AND WEAK. YOU MUST BE MORE BRUTAL. TELL EVERYONE IN THE TOWN YOU ARE A FUCKING GOD AND HAVE MOST OF THE SCUMTEAM NAILED. WATCH THEM RUN AND SCREAM AND BLEED.

Town

- But barely.

Elbirn

- He's pretty ballsy scum, if he's scum. Just coming out and pushing. But he says its his personality. His personality is a little metal. Like a crappy metal. Maybe tin, or gallium, or something like that. NOT HARD METAL.

BUT SERIOUSLY Why is he pushing for DR DREW VERSUS FLUBBERNUGGET?

Am I still scum or not, Elbirn? BECAUSE I HAVE A FUCKING GUN IF YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME. IT'S PRETTY METAL.

Seriously, ever since poking me about the vengeful townie claim a little, he's moved on to Drew and Flubber. It's like he knows I am a vengeful townie, and wants to see my reads before he pushes for my lynch.

Doctor Drew

- Ugh. So, one of the reasons I initially wasn't posting as much was I wanted to see what Drew did after saying he'd play better. I like giving people some space when I don't have a good read to see what they do. And Drew has played a little better. A little.

Unfortunately his main thing was to back off pushing me. I don't like that. Not one bit. It feels like he is distinctly afraid of me. And the content has been lacking.



Scumteam: Elbirn/Dr. Drew - weak distancing attempts between them, and both of them are playing poorly.

Shoutout to: Roster/Emperor. Probably the third scum is in there.

BEF/Korina/Gobble:

I'd like to lynch in those two. Gobble, I'd prefer Drew or Elbirn to Flubber, given my druthers.

Vote: Elbirn

+2

[GreyICE]

Okay, it's time for my wall post. First, I've been trying to see who believed my claim, versus who challenged me. I know that scum would trust my claim, and look to avoid getting shot if I was lynched, while I figured town might be like "I don't believe you, fuck you, get hung." If nothing else, even if I did get run up, it would give me some idea who to shoot.

I'd expect you to scumread me then. I chose between you and drew, and then voted drew *specifically* over your PR.

Yes, if that was the only thing I was going on I'd scumread you more strongly

However your posts and activity are decent, while drew's is thin, and i think Elbirn is skating.

(I'm not discounting that one or both of the flakers are scum either)

[GreyICE]

I am of the opinion that we kill GreyIce and have him kill Flippy, if Ice is actually what he says he is (which I doubt).

Um, in no universe would I shoot flippy over Elbirn or maybe Drew.

[GreyICE]

for fucks sake Gobble, the biggest potential cultist is you if we were worried about a cult

[GreyICE]

Actually yes, Titus, if we were facing a full cult in a mini I'd expect to have all that and more besides. Last cult mini I was in (Walking Dead mafia) had masons, vig guns handed out every time the cult successfully recruited, and various searching roles, as well as cult-proof townies, and we still lost to a surprise serial killer who was town until day 4 (Fate). And we still only got close to winning because one of the cultists had a grudge against the cult leader and claimed cult and outed the leader so we could lynch him. I'd expect all that and more if we were facing a cult, because small towns can't beat cults. It's an ugly math equation we never lynch our way out of.

Do you think Drew is a better choice than Elbirn? I feel like you're sleeping on Elbirn, while Drew is getting a lot of attention simply because he's posting more frequently.

[GreyICE]

GreyICE what's up bro? You scum or nah?

Classic "newbie messes up day 1" and not a chance.

[GreyICE]

By the way Mordhaus there's some part of me that says you're ACTUALLY Dr Rockso, cult leader, and this is the most epic troll ever.

[GreyICE]

It was in my role PM as well, and I think some of the game flavor mentions it.

[GreyICE]

Like this is pretty much where we're at right:

Emperor flippyNips
chkflip
Flubbernugget
Titus

Mordhaus- we is town
GreyICE- claimed Vengeful
Elbirn- claimed VT
Doctor Drew- claimed Cult Hunter

Korina- Mason claim
BrightEyedFish- Confirmed Mason claim

gobbledygook- Mod confirmed Innocent Klok
Senator- Dead, Vanilla Klok
TiphaineDeath- Dead, Vanilla Klok

At this point, is there any harm in just going all the way and doing a mass claim?

[GreyICE]

Christ, I dunno. You tell me how to effectively cult hunt. At the moment, I know that Emperor, the two Masons, and Gobble are confirmed non-cult leader (with the small caveat that if Drew was recruited cult day 1 this

might

be a cult fakeclaim to cover his cult leader Emperor). And the moderator doesn't think cults are bastard.

That basically means everyone else is on the table for me for lynching the cult leader. There won't be any associative tells, because they started the game as a solo player who just didn't want to be noticed. If Emperor or Drew was recruited last night then they're scum too.

I see a world where Drew is a fakeclaiming cult leader, and I think it might be worth lynching, but at the same time the role has high enough utility and is silly enough that if it's genuine and we lose it, we're screwed.

All I know is that I tend to avoid cult games like the plague.

[GreyICE]

Although honestly Drew is guaranteed to be cult after tonight unless he 50% protects himself, and since no one can gamble on a coin flip, well, fuck it all.

Do you really think Doctor Drew came up with that fakeclaim on his own?

[GreyICE]

Eh, idiot got lucky. I'll leave it at that.