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Post Post #2223 (isolation #0) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:21 am

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Hoi I'm town.
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Post Post #2224 (isolation #1) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:27 am

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Now the biggest question is: how much of this 89 pages do I have to read?
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Post Post #2225 (isolation #2) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:27 am

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Now 90.
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Post Post #2227 (isolation #3) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:31 am

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Oh also who died so far?
The OP isn't updated.
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Post Post #2228 (isolation #4) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:37 am

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Mutant D1 Town
Titus D2 Mafia
Creature slot D3 Town
PMystetious D4 Town
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Post Post #2229 (isolation #5) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:38 am

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Is it bad if I I townread someone from #2226 alone
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Post Post #2230 (isolation #6) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:40 am

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In post 319, chennisden wrote:(flavor incoming)

Titus, NorwegianboyEE, and Correspondence have been nominated!
I doubt they put more than 1 scum in nomination.
Norwegian and Correspondence can be town
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #7) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:47 am

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5. NorwegianboyEE
6. GuiltyLion

1. RC
3. Joey_
8. Sujimichi
9. Menalque

10. PMysterious - Town
11. pisskop (This is me!) - Town
7. Creature - Town
4. mutantdevle - Town
2. Titus - Scum

I only read modpost so far and here I am with this glorious glorious reads
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Post Post #2235 (isolation #8) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:50 am

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Why would scum put more than one of them in nomination?
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Post Post #2237 (isolation #9) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:52 am

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In post 2234, NorwegianboyEE wrote:No offense, but those reads are hilariously surface level. I mean i'm glad you're townreading me, but you should probably put a little bit more effort into it before TR or SR someone?
Surface level reads are best reads.
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Post Post #2238 (isolation #10) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:53 am

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Anyway, I'll be back later this evening.
Surface level or not, I apparently only have 6 people to sort and that's welcoming.
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #11) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:29 am

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In post 7, Menalque wrote:Hi I’m chennisden but you can call me obvtown
This is flat out scumclaim tbh
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #12) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:33 am

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In post 2250, Menalque wrote:yours comes from scum
Not sure about that man
Awoo looked pretty town to me.
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Post Post #2256 (isolation #13) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:35 am

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In post 2233, DrCirno wrote:==Based on the Modpost only==
5. NorwegianboyEE
6. GuiltyLion

==Awoo was p town==
1. RC

==The Leftover==
3. Joey_
8. Sujimichi
9. Menalque

==Flipped and Me==
10. PMysterious - Town
11. pisskop (This is me!) - Town
7. Creature - Town
4. mutantdevle - Town
2. Titus - Scum

I only read modpost so far and here I am with this glorious glorious reads
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Post Post #2257 (isolation #14) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:37 am

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Oh by the way, can we NL in this game?
Because if so I only need 2 townreads.
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Post Post #2258 (isolation #15) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:38 am

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By NL I mean NLing every even-numbered day.
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Post Post #2259 (isolation #16) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:39 am

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Oh plurality lynch. Boo.
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Post Post #2261 (isolation #17) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:41 am

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{Me, T1, T2, T3}
{L1 L2 L3}

lynch L1 D5
T1 D6

{Me, T2, T3}
{L2, L3}

lynch L2 D7
T2 D8

{Me, T3}
{L3}

I think that means I need 3 correct townreads to win ths game.
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Post Post #2262 (isolation #18) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:42 am

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And Awoo looked very town.
Nice. I only need two more real townreads.
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Post Post #2263 (isolation #19) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:43 am

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I love when it simplifies like this.
Because that means I don't have to read many of this now 91 pages of content.
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Post Post #2265 (isolation #20) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:47 am

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Currently I have GL as town only by the fact that he was in D2 nomination. What makes him scum?
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Post Post #2266 (isolation #21) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:48 am

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(I didn't read single GL posts btw)
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Post Post #2268 (isolation #22) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:52 am

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I guess I need to read D1 and D2 at least.
I'll need to see how Titus went down and when did her downfall start.
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Post Post #2270 (isolation #23) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:54 am

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Have Titus ever use "I'm in the list" as a defense during Day 2?
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Post Post #2271 (isolation #24) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:00 am

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In post 603, Menalque wrote:yeah, basically this:


starts catch up at 9:49am site time
In post 516, Sujimichi wrote:Ok. That was fun. I'm going to catch up now.
In post 528, Sujimichi wrote:Ok. I finished reading through. My internet went out halfway through so I am phone posting right now. Of the nominees, this is where I’m at.

T
GuiltyLion
NorwegianBoyEE
Titus
S

I have a full read list but I don’t think I want to post it just yet (plus it’s on my computer).

In post 538, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 532, Menalque wrote:
In post 528, Sujimichi wrote:Ok. I finished reading through. My internet went out halfway through so I am phone posting right now. Of the nominees, this is where I’m at.

T
GuiltyLion
NorwegianBoyEE
Titus
S

I have a full read list but I don’t think I want to post it just yet (plus it’s on my computer).
Also why don’t you wanna post your full reads?
I think how this nomination phase plays out could impact it quite a bit. Plus, it’s on my computer, and I don’t feel like typing it out in my phone.
finished reading through here at 11:04am site time (less than an hour and a half but it's ballpark so okay)

but reads are apparently on computer here and so these are just the brief notes
In post 544, Sujimichi wrote:I can provide a list like you did, but I’m not typing out my reasons why on my phone.

T
Joey_
GuiltyLion
Creature

TL
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Awoo

N
NorwegianBoyEE

SL
pisskop

S
PMysterious
Titus
posts the same list that's fleshed out with reasons later

but if your internet was out for about two and a half hours, and you were reading for an hour and 15 minutes, how did you manage to format all the posts/links for all your reads?

alternative theory: you gave a reads list that would line up with what you thought the game was, then later on you went through and made up reasons for why people where in the spots they were in
???
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Post Post #2273 (isolation #25) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:04 am

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Also lol @ page 9 hammer
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Post Post #2276 (isolation #26) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:08 am

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In post 2274, RadiantCowbells wrote:Gif do u remember me making that same post in fallout
You think I read the game I mod I mean who is GIF?
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Post Post #2278 (isolation #27) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:10 am

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So as fast, abrupt, and lulz that page 9 lolhammer was, that looks like a town lolhammer.
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Post Post #2279 (isolation #28) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:12 am

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==Awoo is obvtown==
1. RC

==That fucking lolhammer man==
5. NorwegianboyEE

==The third and last town==
[Soon to be filled]

==The Leftovers==
6. GuiltyLion
3. Joey_
8. Sujimichi
9. Menalque

==Flipped and me==
10. PMysterious - Town
11. pisskop (This is me!) - Town
7. Creature - Town
4. mutantdevle - Town
2. Titus - Scum
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Post Post #2282 (isolation #29) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:14 am

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In post 2281, Menalque wrote:It’s cute that you’re acting like you don’t know that it’s 8:3
Only if you read my post
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Post Post #2283 (isolation #30) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:15 am

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In post 2261, DrCirno wrote:{Me, T1, T2, T3}
{L1 L2 L3}

lynch L1 D5
T1 D6

{Me, T2, T3}
{L2, L3}

lynch L2 D7
T2 D8

{Me, T3}
{L3}

I think that means I need 3 correct townreads to win ths game.
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Post Post #2284 (isolation #31) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:16 am

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And of course, 2261 assumes the worst case scenario, where every nominations are from {Me, T1, T2, T3}.
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Post Post #2285 (isolation #32) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:21 am

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In post 221, Joey_ wrote:I just skimmed mutant's last scum game
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=30609

And honestly his posts are significantly different than his posts in this game. Inb4 I am wrong and I look silly post game but, tone reading is basically one of my strength (and weakness) and mutant post's as scum are unsubstantial, shows no emotions (classic s tell) and he's seen constantly doubting himself & taking stances meant for posturizing (like half reads, non-comital stuff, asking himself questions etc). Also, in his scum posts, its very obvious that he's shading people left and right which is scum agenda.

Mutant is obviously someone who can express himself very well which offer some sort of distance from his writing style and his emotions. In this game tho, the way he showed emotions was when he cranked his own posts when he felt pressure, which he recognized himself. His walls this game imo almost never showed agenda; everytime he outed a read he nuanced it and, irrc, didn't discredit someone for the sake of discrediting (like he did as scum).

Spoiler: Exemples of his scum shades
"are you claiming that your role enables you to unlock people's 2nd role PM, aka their quest PM? Because the quest flavour is what is listen as 2nd for me.
Or are you just being dumb
and actually mean this"

His wording is non-comital he's offering an "out" to whoever hes investigating, which is a read that comes off as non-agressive since being dumb is NA


"Oof varsoon. Are you going to be posting like that all game? Gotta be honest here I but I found your post just a little irritating. My biggest gripe is how you criticise a lot of people for doing NAI stuff and fluff posts yet a large part of your post has a lot of fluffy stuff in it. Like, if your post is THAT large, and you expect people to actually read it, surely you'd keep your own fluff to a minimum?"

His wording is non-comital, trying not to comes off as having a strong read. That's probably his worse post that I skim


"I can't help but feel there are slight undertones of someone who doesn't want to be investigated here. Do millers usually claim early in the game? I don't have much experience with them."

His wording is non-comital and his read is implied. After outing his read, he's admitting mechanic ignorance which decrease the tone of his read yet still shades a slot


Spoiler: His shades/answers this game
"A large majority of people prefer playing as town. So it's statistically likely that you too prefer playing town. Hence, if you're saying you think your alignment is crappy, you're admitting that you are mafia?
VOTE: pisskop"

Committal wording, he's not using wording where he's 2nd guessing himself, he's offering no out


"this is a pretty strong conclusion to come to. So I must ask how serious this conclusion is? It seems odd to me that anyone could be so closed-minded this early into the game."

Implied read using words that are NAI and he's offering an out "early game". This fits his sucm posting but the wording is much different IMO. He's not using 2nd guessing wording and close-minded is much less discrediting of someone's character than "dumb" is


"Also, I'd like you to justify your statements that I'm A) Tryharding and B) trying to blend in. Those things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive but they are pretty damn close."

Non-comittal wording, implied read and you can argue he's offering an out. Again this could fit his scum posting but I feel the wording/tone is much different


"Your issue is that you're treating my vote as RVS. I've already explained that it was not an RVS vote. It was a calculated and intentional vote albeit with reasons I didn't genuinely believe - this had the sole intention of generating content. Until that point nobody had said anything meaningful.
Why does making an early vote that uses effort and logic instead of just near randomness make me scum? It shows an element of tryharding, sure. But what about that is inherently scummy?"


Here he is answering a post shading him, but not once did he shade or imply a read toward that person in any way, there's no scum agenda and he's engaging the content of the post. IMO, if he was scum w/ the meta from the linked game, he probably would've sliped a few shading comments in there


"You're saying a lot of things about me here that I agree with yet I still don't understand how you come to the conclusion I am scum. Yes I took issue with the position in the game (in that nothing of substance was being said). Yes I am incredibly self-aware. Yes I have primarily a logical approach to things. And yes I was trying to be useful and proactive. So what I don't understand is why all of those things are bad? Or at the very least, why you think they are bad? I consider all of those traits to be positive, or at the very least neutral, so the only reason I can see that you'd suspect me for displaying them is if you think I'm faking them. Until your most recent posts, it really did not seem like that was what you were accusing me of. So am I right in saying that the reason you are currently scum reading me is because you think my blatant display of those traits is me faking and overselling them?"


Same as above


"I don't see what town motivation there is to purposely stunt my ability to read you."

This is his first kinda shade towards pk after like 2 wall posts and a half which shows town POV because he's saying he's having a hard time reading PK, its coherent with someone who just had a huge conversation and didn't imply a read on them.


Its pretty blatant this is mutant's town game
Ok Joey can be town too.
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Post Post #2286 (isolation #33) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:25 am

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I'm gonna jinx it and say

"Could this game be this easy"
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Post Post #2287 (isolation #34) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:28 am

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How much time do I have
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Post Post #2288 (isolation #35) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:29 am

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In post 2064, chennisden wrote: (expired on 2019-11-08 10:52:51) until D5 ends.
Ok I got plenty of time.
I'm gonna work on other things today, and read my townreads 1 2 3 in more detail to confirm tomorrow.
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Post Post #2304 (isolation #36) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:45 am

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In post 2301, Menalque wrote:When you entered saying that awoo was obv town, that drcirno is reinforcing that narrative, and that you stated very early that you had a tr on pk
Or maybe, they are just hilariously obvtown.
I know I replaced in because pisskop was obvtown.
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Post Post #2313 (isolation #37) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:50 am

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In post 2307, Menalque wrote:Pisskop has not been obvtown and neither has awoo
Says you.
Both are obvtown for me.
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Post Post #2316 (isolation #38) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:51 am

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In post 2311, RadiantCowbells wrote:I hate defending myself as town.
But you did this like 80% of the time in baton pass though.
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Post Post #2324 (isolation #39) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:56 am

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Oh by the way I have no reads on Menal/GL/Suji.
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Post Post #2330 (isolation #40) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:59 am

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In post 2327, Menalque wrote:I’ve already talked about pk!scum.
Actually the same post you mention there was why I obvtowned PK.
I've seen PK quite a few times and he wouldn't replace out like that as scum so
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Post Post #2334 (isolation #41) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:00 am

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In post 2329, Menalque wrote:
remember to lynch RC after I flip green
Btw post like his is how scum RC gets away
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Post Post #2336 (isolation #42) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:01 am

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In post 2333, Menalque wrote:
In post 2330, DrCirno wrote:
In post 2327, Menalque wrote:I’ve already talked about pk!scum.
Actually the same post you mention there was why I obvtowned PK.
I've seen PK quite a few times and he wouldn't replace out like that as scum so
I’m not talking about his replace out? I’ve been talking about pk scum since D4?
Well it shows how much I read so far!
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Post Post #2340 (isolation #43) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:03 am

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Oh yeah I forgot about that part.
Lol assuming RC to have "humility"
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Post Post #2370 (isolation #44) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:17 am

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Have you ever considered that he's just trying to read you by the way
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Post Post #2374 (isolation #45) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:26 am

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But man
I feel amazing
I locktowned someone in a single post and got it right
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Post Post #2381 (isolation #46) » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:43 am

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In post 2378, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 2304, DrCirno wrote:
In post 2301, Menalque wrote:When you entered saying that awoo was obv town, that drcirno is reinforcing that narrative, and that you stated very early that you had a tr on pk
Or maybe, they are just hilariously obvtown.
I know I replaced in because pisskop was obvtown.
Didn't you say you hadn't read the game
Aside from the fact that I lie about how much I read every time regardless of my alignment, when I said I didn't read that means I didn't read the game as a whole. I just saw his rep out post and I was like "oh this is town I'm replacing in"
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Post Post #2718 (isolation #47) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:29 am

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Hooooly shit 13 pages overnight
I love you all
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Post Post #2721 (isolation #48) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:32 am

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Also I don't think scum RC would say "treat me as confirmed scum if this flips town" because he knows people will actually listen to that compared to other people saying the same.
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Post Post #2724 (isolation #49) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:35 am

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In post 2722, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2721, DrCirno wrote:Also I don't think scum RC would say "treat me as confirmed scum if this flips town" because he knows people will actually listen to that compared to other people saying the same.
That's what he wants you to think. :roll:
It's more of what I know/learned over the past few games actually.
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Post Post #2726 (isolation #50) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:37 am

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In post 2723, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 2720, RadiantCowbells wrote:Less sorting you as a player and more sorting your playstyle, why were you reluctant to voice your SR on Menalque?
I had no solid rationale to support my theory and was being scumread by the majority of the players (negative points when trying to persuade the group). When trying to target the town leader (perceived or actual), one needs to come from a strong foundation or not at all.
With that said this post is p town
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Post Post #2728 (isolation #51) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:39 am

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Man I feel lazy again and RC is town.
Do I just sheep him and criticize him when nomination mafia goes wrong

> Yes
> No
> RESIST ARREST
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Post Post #2731 (isolation #52) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:42 am

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Although idk if
NEE-san
NEE is scum here.
That page 9 QH was dank.
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Post Post #2736 (isolation #53) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:53 am

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Will GL vote menal though
It seems like Joey won't vote him.
Auji sounds like he would.
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Post Post #2738 (isolation #54) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:57 am

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In post 2382, GuiltyLion wrote:2) I absolutely don't think Menalque is scum
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Post Post #2741 (isolation #55) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:07 am

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VOTE: Menal
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Post Post #2790 (isolation #56) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:36 am

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In post 2779, chennisden wrote:GuiltyLion (2), pisskop, Joey_
RadiantCowbells (1): Menalque, NorwegianboyEE_
DrCirno (1): GuiltyLion
Menalque (1): DrCirno
I got 2 votes bois
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Post Post #2792 (isolation #57) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:37 am

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Also tbh all these Menalque's lulzing is NAI.
I think he's more mad at the fact that he was unlynchable and now he suddenly is, regardless of his alignment.
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Post Post #2798 (isolation #58) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:40 am

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I don't think you'd be flailing this hard if you thought you were unlynchable.
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Post Post #2799 (isolation #59) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:41 am

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I mean you even said that you can't outpost RC and will accept your lynch for RC trade no?
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Post Post #2805 (isolation #60) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:43 am

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wtf my slot was obvtown
So obvtown that I correctly read him with one fucking post
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Post Post #2811 (isolation #61) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:47 am

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Imaging being called bullying for pushing one's read.

Oh boo hoo Menalque is bullying me because he've been pushing me (not PK. Me.) for making a meme and throwing down three ?s
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Post Post #2813 (isolation #62) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:47 am

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Imagine*
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Post Post #2821 (isolation #63) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:53 am

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In post 2815, Menalque wrote:he shouts people down, tears them down, insists they follow him, is abusive and aggressive until they do what he wants.
So where have he shout people down and act abusive this game? Because I certainly don't see any. If anything he's being civil.
I've seen way too many people being at the end of RC's push accusing RC of "bullying" this and "abusive" that when all he did was pushing his reads.
I've even seen
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Tearing people's post down and insist that other follows him is like, how you push your reads.

Honestly people acting like wet noodles and all makes me want to support him even more.
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Post Post #2828 (isolation #64) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:57 am

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Also I'm pretty sure none of y'all actually plan to follow the receiving end of the 1v1 so all these "ooh lynch me if other flip green" is completely meaningless to me.
So if y'all can just stop with this "lynch me if other flips green" bullshit I'd be happy.
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Post Post #2830 (isolation #65) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:58 am

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Because In my 6 years of playing Mafia I have
NEVER
seen anyone follow the end deal of the 1v1.
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Post Post #2834 (isolation #66) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:59 am

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Oh he's my partner all right.
Mason partner.
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Post Post #2839 (isolation #67) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:02 am

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Oh and you're correct Menalque. Even if you flip town today I have no intention to lynch RC.
I have this cozy townlist of RC > Joey > Suji > NEE in order of towniness and I gotta say I'm not really inclined to lynch people in my townreads.
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Post Post #2851 (isolation #68) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:06 am

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In post 2842, Menalque wrote:How do you expect to push people like this and not have them respond emotionally?
Except that that "emotion" of yours is NAI.
That makes people tired of reading this damn game and make people apathetic.
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Post Post #2853 (isolation #69) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:07 am

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Like people whine about RC ruining games all the time
But from what I've seen it has been always

1. RC pushes someone
2. People emotionally react
3. But that emotion is NAI
4. People get tired of that shit
5. People turn apathetic
6. People gives RC his way.
7. Blame RC for ruining games post-game.
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Post Post #2855 (isolation #70) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:08 am

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So if you don't want RC to have his way all the time, don't act all emotional and shit.
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Post Post #2860 (isolation #71) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:10 am

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In post 2857, Menalque wrote:Yes, which is exactly the point. Either RC dominates the gamestate to the point where you give up and leave and he gets to strongarm people 1 by 1 into doing what he wants. Or you stay fighting, apathy increases and increases and eventually people just give up and vote, and there’s a good chance they go “huh, RC’s pretty good and idk who the scum is, let’s vote with him”
"emotional" is a keyword.
Seriously, nobody ever wants to consider 1v1 mixed with emotion seriously.
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Post Post #2861 (isolation #72) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:10 am

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Now I wish I was really scum with RC this game because that means we're good-cop-bad-copping poor Menalque lol
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Post Post #2866 (isolation #73) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:13 am

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What is openwolfing
I'm the best
deepwolf
, even more than the man Dannflor.
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Post Post #2869 (isolation #74) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:15 am

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I mean he's shittalking baton pass a lot too and I was in that game.
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Post Post #2877 (isolation #75) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:23 am

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I thought I was p clear tbh
This is a public alt too.
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Post Post #2881 (isolation #76) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:24 am

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Anyway I'm off for the rest of the day.
Extra Life fun
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Post Post #2883 (isolation #77) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:25 am

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In post 2879, Menalque wrote:I’ve never played with you before so I don’t know your style

I had seen RC refer to gif but I was a little unclear
I mean that have been pretty clear because otherwise you wouldn't be calling me scum here ever lol
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Post Post #2942 (isolation #78) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:16 pm

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In post 2913, GuiltyLion wrote:I just want to lynch Cirrno still. idk. the explicitly WIFOMy blatant sheeping of RC is scummy as well
So how does "WIFOMy" and "blatant" mix in together buddy
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Post Post #2944 (isolation #79) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:17 pm

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In post 2914, GuiltyLion wrote:Cirrno who's Menalque's potential partner(s) in your eyes, you have nEE as town

gl is not a valid answer
I don't look for partners.
I just grab townreads and lynch those I don't.

Also, gl.
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Post Post #2954 (isolation #80) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:23 pm

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Yeah that's why I sheep. It's totally not because I'm a lazyfuck
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Post Post #2958 (isolation #81) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:24 pm

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Also if you minus the PK part all you had on me was "pushing you with RC" when in reality it was just a meme post and three ?s.
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Post Post #2959 (isolation #82) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:26 pm

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Which in itself is an overreaction.
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Post Post #2963 (isolation #83) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:29 pm

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In post 2960, Menalque wrote:sigh that scum might actually win this game despite open wolfing so obviously today

I really don't think town is gonna have the nerve to lynch you in lylo after I flip so this game is prob lost
I mean if stating a fact is openwolfing I'm a most adorable wolf with 16 fucking windows open on me.
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Post Post #2966 (isolation #84) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:32 pm

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Selfvote and find out then
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Post Post #2975 (isolation #85) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:35 pm

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LAL clearly
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Post Post #2981 (isolation #86) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:40 pm

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I played overcooked for 7 hours straight today.
Was fun and painful
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Post Post #2988 (isolation #87) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:43 pm

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I'm outed town.
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Post Post #2991 (isolation #88) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:44 pm

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Like this adorable sushi doll can't be scum
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Post Post #2993 (isolation #89) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:45 pm

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Oh also speaking of openwolfing me + RC scumteam once won after outing us as both scum.
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Post Post #2996 (isolation #90) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:46 pm

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Image
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Post Post #2997 (isolation #91) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:47 pm

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Oh wait wrong one
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Post Post #2998 (isolation #92) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:47 pm

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Post Post #2999 (isolation #93) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:55 pm

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We did it reddit
I silenced the game
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Post Post #3000 (isolation #94) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:55 pm

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Pagetop
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Post Post #3003 (isolation #95) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:06 pm

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Who's datisi
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Post Post #3005 (isolation #96) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:07 pm

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I'm a newbie and I suck too so you need to be more specific
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Post Post #3010 (isolation #97) » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:22 pm

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beetlejuice
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Post Post #3117 (isolation #98) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:37 am

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In post 3098, RadiantCowbells wrote:I've even given you the plan

Relying on townreads shared by Joey who no one SRs and Suji who can townblock later

For how to play around a townflip and win regardless of whether I'm town or scum.

Either Cirno is my buddy and that's easy to play around after i'm massively discredited by this flip or he's not and my slot was in fact obvtown

Oh

VOTE: Menalque
You were already voting Menalque btw
It's just that the mod didn't count it
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Post Post #3118 (isolation #99) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:40 am

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In post 3108, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don’t like how this wagon formed at all. It’s like RC just shouted the town into submission.
If Menalque actually flips scum then it’s going to look bad for me, but i find this push really really bad. You better be right.
I guess that means you townread me!
Also trust me if people could just longspampost (not shout really. He's just repeating what he said over and over) town into submission, mastina should have 100% win rate as scum.
Also if you're gonna say "You better be right," you should hammer so Menalque can say "omg I was wrong in my NEE townread" and I can then post "Everyone is
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Post Post #3119 (isolation #100) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:20 am

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Oh also speaking of forcing to submission
There is no submission
It's literally me who's sheeping RC (well not really sleeping but just agreeing with my PoE)
And joey who just came to be like few hours ago.
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Post Post #3120 (isolation #101) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:21 am

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If anything this wagon has been severly severely resisted
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Post Post #3122 (isolation #102) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:38 am

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In post 3121, RadiantCowbells wrote:What exactly has GL done to earn your townread
Because he said he'll never vote him duh
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Post Post #3123 (isolation #103) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:41 am

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Oh also
In post 3108, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don’t like how this wagon formed at all. It’s like RC just shouted the town into submission.
If Menalque actually flips scum then it’s going to look bad for me, but i find this push really really bad. You better be right.
This is a typical scum posturing post upon a mislynch hmm
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Post Post #3124 (isolation #104) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:42 am

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But I kinda don't want RC vs Melanque round 2.
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Post Post #3126 (isolation #105) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:43 am

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Man now I want to flip NEE just because if he flips scum it confirms 4 towns.
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Post Post #3128 (isolation #106) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:45 am

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In post 3108, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don’t like how this wagon formed at all. It’s like RC just shouted the town into submission.
If Menalque actually flips scum then it’s going to look bad for me, but i find this push really really bad. You better be right.
Implied that this is a mislynch + implied that all the non-RC slots are town.

I guess that makes 3 towns not 4.
But like Awoo sas says obvtown
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Post Post #3135 (isolation #107) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:58 am

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In post 3131, Menalque wrote:^^^^ this is RC prepping for post-mislynch for anyone not paying attention, which I guess is basically everyone as people are actually voting me this game lmao
Haven't I told you that 1v1 never resolves?
If you get lynched today, that's it.
That's cold hard fact.
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Post Post #3138 (isolation #108) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:00 am

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In fact, this exact same thing happened in this game too.
RC was town.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=79373
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Post Post #3142 (isolation #109) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:03 am

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In post 3139, Menalque wrote:
In post 3135, DrCirno wrote:
In post 3131, Menalque wrote:^^^^ this is RC prepping for post-mislynch for anyone not paying attention, which I guess is basically everyone as people are actually voting me this game lmao
Haven't I told you that 1v1 never resolves?
If you get lynched today, that's it.
That's cold hard fact.
If town fails to lynch RC after I flip green town deserves to lose.
Just because some random person called me a bitch that doesn't make me a bitch ya know
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Post Post #3150 (isolation #110) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:04 am

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We have at least 3 scum left in the game bois
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Post Post #3151 (isolation #111) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:05 am

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In post 3149, Menalque wrote:I’m not self-voting no matter how much you try to bait me into it here.
No need?
Suji will come in for hammer.
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Post Post #3170 (isolation #112) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:16 am

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In post 3140, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 3138, DrCirno wrote:In fact, this exact same thing happened in this game too.
RC was town.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=79373
Note that Buki was in fact scum
Despite your hard TR on her
WELL I FIXED THAT DIDN'T I
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Post Post #3172 (isolation #113) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:16 am

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Also I was more talking about Day 1.
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Post Post #3238 (isolation #114) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:14 am

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What is there to discredit your SR on RC
When literally nobody else but you and NEE are scumreading RC and haven't changed their stance ever since I replaced in at least
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Post Post #3242 (isolation #115) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:18 am

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Also what's funny is that aside from my reads, which are technically my speculations
I've been only telling the facts.
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Post Post #3245 (isolation #116) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:20 am

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I'm personally discarding all the pneumonia arguments because it's outside of the scope that I want to mess with.
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Post Post #3270 (isolation #117) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:36 am

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In post 3267, Menalque wrote:My read went back to cirno scum from the repeated way that he continues to back you up without question here
Am I confirmed town if I disprove this with one quote?
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Post Post #3276 (isolation #118) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:40 am

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In post 3270, DrCirno wrote:
In post 3267, Menalque wrote:My read went back to cirno scum from the repeated way that he continues to back you up without question here
Am I confirmed town if I disprove this with one quote?
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Post Post #3280 (isolation #119) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:43 am

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Because dismantling a big thing with a single quote is my favorite thing to do and asking before I do so is just how I operate
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Post Post #3284 (isolation #120) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:46 am

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In post 3279, Menalque wrote:He’s been pretty much doing everything in reason to support this push on me
All I said was on RC was how he's town here. And only factual arguments on some points because, well, it's true and semantic correction leads to healthier argument that helps everyone else to see them in clearer views.
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Post Post #3286 (isolation #121) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:47 am

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Hell at one point I've even tried to help
YOU
in this stupid back and forth
Remember when I mentioned good cop bad cop?
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Post Post #3291 (isolation #122) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:50 am

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In post 3289, Menalque wrote:And then you come in and act like your slot was unfailingly obvtown
I mean it is. And I'm ready to gloat about it in post-game too.
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Post Post #3294 (isolation #123) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:51 am

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Also yes I'm aware I could be painfully wrong and that statement just becomes one hilarious meme with an extra humiliation to boot.
But hey Mafia is a game that we play for fun. If this game lacks healthy humility, how can this game be fun?
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Post Post #3297 (isolation #124) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:52 am

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In post 3292, Menalque wrote:You don’t get to gloat about fucking anything unless you’re scum
Nah I do get to gloat about "see Awoo was obvtown"
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Post Post #3305 (isolation #125) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:56 am

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In post 3300, Menalque wrote:
In post 3297, DrCirno wrote:
In post 3292, Menalque wrote:You don’t get to gloat about fucking anything unless you’re scum
Nah I do get to gloat about "see Awoo was obvtown"
If you’re not scum you voided all rights to gloat when you didn’t see that I was obvtown here and defend the shit out of me/prevent this from getting started
Obvtown what's that?

The real obvtown doesn't need to assert themselves over and over that they're obvtown.
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Post Post #3311 (isolation #126) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:59 am

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In post 3300, Menalque wrote:
In post 3297, DrCirno wrote:
In post 3292, Menalque wrote:You don’t get to gloat about fucking anything unless you’re scum
Nah I do get to gloat about "see Awoo was obvtown"
If you’re not scum you voided all rights to gloat when you didn’t see that I was obvtown here and defend the shit out of me/prevent this from getting started
Also why would I defend you when I read RC/Awoo as obvtown and I already have 3 townreads that I need? (Used to be 4, mind you. But that one NEE post was hella sketch)
This whole 1v1 started even before I replaced in anyway so second point is moot.
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Post Post #3323 (isolation #127) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:05 am

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Now I probably should put a cherry on top with a statement so disgusting
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Post Post #3339 (isolation #128) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:19 am

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In post 3336, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Omg. How many new pages of spam is there now.
There are actually all highly informative posts.
So you need to read E V E R Y T H I N G
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Post Post #3344 (isolation #129) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:29 am

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In post 3342, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 3128, DrCirno wrote:
In post 3108, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don’t like how this wagon formed at all. It’s like RC just shouted the town into submission.
If Menalque actually flips scum then it’s going to look bad for me, but i find this push really really bad. You better be right.
Implied that this is a mislynch + implied that all the non-RC slots are town.

I guess that makes 3 towns not 4.
But like Awoo sas says obvtown
Well yeah, i implied that it's a mislynch because that's exactly what i think it is. And where are you gathering the "implied that all non-RC slots are town" implications from?
You said RC shouted
town
to submission.
That implies that people in Mel wagon that is not RC are town.
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Post Post #3346 (isolation #130) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:34 am

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In post 3345, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 3272, Menalque wrote:
In post 3268, RadiantCowbells wrote:without question?? you know whose backing someone up without question? norway. you guys haven't talked at all even, he's just been calling you locktown and shit and hasn't really given an explanation.
Norway has done fuck all to help me other than vote you whereas cirno constantly pops in to back you up

Frankly Norway has probably done almost as much harm as good by allowing you to push this “partners” line
Gee, guess i should have teamed up with RC and voted you instead then. That would obviously have been much easier for me, since i wouldn't need to take hits from his textual assault.
That argument goes both ways actually.
What stops scum-you from voting town-RC when it looks like RC is winning against town-Mel just so you look better?
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Post Post #3355 (isolation #131) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:53 am

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In post 3353, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Btw @DrCirno
Do you think Menalque's reaction at the end there comes from scum angry that he is losing, or town frustrated that he is getting mislynched?
NAI frustration that he is getting lynched.
Which is why I've been hating this back and forth.
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Post Post #3360 (isolation #132) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:17 am

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In post 3357, GuiltyLion wrote:It's a stretch to say that he was talking about alignments there
I'm calling it a slip actually. I don't believe he meant to talk about alignments here as well.
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Post Post #3420 (isolation #133) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:13 pm

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This post is strictly non-alignment-indicative.

Not sorry over anything that happened this game.
Like I don't expect people to just hold back their emotion or know to call a V/LA and step out a bit when things get too heated.
Everything that happened in this game is perfectly understandable. As RC said, I don't even blame Mel for self-hammering.
But this excessive AtEing over being pushed is sadly a current meta of mafiascum.
And it needs to fucking burn. It makes games unfair and unfun for a lot of people. Some people such as Shoshin has started to exploit the basic human decency to gain advantage in a game.
I linked the Mini 2070 Day 1 as a hint that I figured things like this would happen again. As I said, it's exactly the same. The poor sap in that game was town there. RC was town there.
That poor sap (I don't remember his name sorry) acted exactly like this. And when the gamestate becomes bad like this, that person gotta go.
And then things become worse because now that receiving end will be even more emotionally infuriating over that.
That's how game gets dramatic. That's how people become apathetic over games.
Until this whole unhealthy meta stops, we have to be the "bad guys" and push off the overly emotional players. It sucks for both end. But it gotta happen.
And trust me. It's never fun to push emotional people.
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Post Post #3421 (isolation #134) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:15 pm

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My maginot line of human decency was holding back calling this a policy lynch.
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Post Post #3427 (isolation #135) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:32 pm

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I mentioned that pneumonia thing shouldn't be touched with a 10 ft pole.

Other than that, I see no wrong thing that RC did (other than the penumonia talk, as I said multiple of times, he've been quite civil!), especially if you consider his viewpoint not just yours.
He lost games over fake excessive AtE. Why would he believe that yours is genuine?
What is there to talk about his human decency when his trust towards one was broken by others?
This is why mafiascum had all these "gentlemen's promise" (You probably won't know because your join date is pretty recent, but it was a thing back in the day) to keep the game out of these moral dilemma such as this.
But now it has been broken. Now we can't go back until everything that ties to that broken promise is completely purged out.
Like I know how you feel. You were genuinely crying over, but your ourbursts were ignored. I had to ignore your outburst. It didn't feel good doing so.
Don't hate RC so much for ignoring your emotional outbursts. Place yourself in his shoes and think. If you were lied to by the overly emotional outbursts, could you have made such a statement?
I think once you calm down, you should consider what I said just now, and try to reach an understanding.
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Post Post #3428 (isolation #136) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:33 pm

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In post 3426, Menalque wrote:If RC is scum here then he’s a piece of shit and I never wanna play with him again if he’s willing to do this knowingly to win in a forum game
I'd say he's one hell of a hypocrite if he does this as scum, after what he've seen from Shoshin lol
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Post Post #3430 (isolation #137) » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:35 pm

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What is there to be spewed when Awoo was obvtown
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Post Post #3446 (isolation #138) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:12 pm

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In post 3438, RadiantCowbells wrote:Everyone in the pool, who do you think the scum are? Whether in or out of the pool
All outside and not you.
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Post Post #3448 (isolation #139) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:14 pm

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I think scum's intention here is clear. Because they know that list is nothing but a huge wifom they can just throw all towns there for an easy mislynch and aim for lylo win.
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Post Post #3451 (isolation #140) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:16 pm

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Everyone answer this question.

Why shouldn't Joey be locktown?
Why shouldn't Suji be locktown?

(I locktowned both btw)
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Post Post #3452 (isolation #141) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:17 pm

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In post 3450, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why am I not in the pool then, though?
Because they gotta keep the RC paranoia high?
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Post Post #3455 (isolation #142) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:19 pm

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All they have to do is make people think that you're not obvtown :shrug:
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Post Post #3458 (isolation #143) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:21 pm

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Oh he's town.
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Post Post #3461 (isolation #144) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:24 pm

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This is an another game where I let myself get lynched here because I have almost 0 doubt Joey/Suji are town here.
But I think I owe ppl not doing that cos last game lol
So I'm just not gonna vote for the rest of the game.
I wonder what will happen if no one votes today.
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Post Post #3463 (isolation #145) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:25 pm

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Like plurality lynch is a thing and whatnot
But if no one votes anyone for the whole day, then well
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Post Post #3464 (isolation #146) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:25 pm

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In post 3462, RadiantCowbells wrote:Itt I suddenly get scared Suji is scum lol
Man up man
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Post Post #3466 (isolation #147) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:26 pm

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In post 3449, GuiltyLion wrote:again, entered and said he didn't read the game, then said he replaced in because he had pisskop as obvtown off of replacing out, when that objectively was in no way a town replace out
This sounds like the major reason for you so I'll address this.
Why did you ignore my post saying that I lie about how much I read regardless of my alignment?
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Post Post #3470 (isolation #148) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:29 pm

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I am very sure PK isn't a person to make a scummy (like irl scum, not mafia scum) action like that.
Back then when I modded a really trolly game PK played the game out to the bitter end even his fate was sealed since like Day 3 or something.
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Post Post #3484 (isolation #149) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:36 pm

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In post 3476, GuiltyLion wrote:Sorry, Cirrno* link that game
It's literally pisskop's first signature link lol
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Post Post #3485 (isolation #150) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:36 pm

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In post 3483, RadiantCowbells wrote:Ok and like the argument that he replaced out to avoid a scum loss has merit
And I literally just mentioned pisskop's scumgame where he played out a losing game so
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Post Post #3492 (isolation #151) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:41 pm

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I guess we can solidify reads since we got time.
I doubt my reads will change though.
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Post Post #3501 (isolation #152) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:46 pm

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In post 3497, Sujimichi wrote:I don't understand the purpose of ensuring one of your team dying.
I still didn't read the game yet but
If Titus looked like she was gonna get lunched by the beginning of Day 2, it's a smart choice.
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Post Post #3508 (isolation #153) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:55 pm

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Wait we're supposed to look for supposed deepwolf if exists right
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Post Post #3509 (isolation #154) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:55 pm

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AM I DEEPWOLF
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Post Post #3512 (isolation #155) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:58 pm

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NEE is 100% gonna come and vote me so I'm p sure I get lynched today even if I try not to.
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Post Post #3514 (isolation #156) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:01 pm

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Nah.
I locktowned you/Suji/RC since forever so me flipping wouldn't matter to me one bit.
If anything GL will look very bad from my flip and I kinda want that so
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Post Post #3522 (isolation #157) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:37 pm

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I'm 95% sure that scum just threw 3 townies this pool just so they are guaranteed to go to LyLo.
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Post Post #3545 (isolation #158) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:17 pm

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I think everyone but NEE/GL thinks all nomination is town?
One of us is still gonna get lynched.
I think at this point lynch is purely in "who will perform the weakest in LyLo"
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Post Post #3550 (isolation #159) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:21 pm

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I'm literally never lynching suji unless I'm forced to in a day like this.
Plus I'm gonna get lynched today anyway bcause NEE is gonna lolvote and GL will follow suit.
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Post Post #3553 (isolation #160) » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:23 pm

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Like if I'm voting today it will be a scumclaim for me
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Post Post #3744 (isolation #161) » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:41 am

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All those were answered already.
1. I don't plan to throw down a vote today.
2. I think all scum are outside the pool. Have I mentioned that Awoo was obvtown?
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Post Post #3745 (isolation #162) » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:43 am

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Like unlike others here I don't really care about being lynched.
I might fake that I care sometimes but it's mostly to troll people.
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Post Post #3746 (isolation #163) » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:44 am

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This time I don't actually fear LyLo unlike last time because I'm currently believing in no deepwolf.
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Post Post #3747 (isolation #164) » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:45 am

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So if I go to lylo wahey
If I get lunched here wahey
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Post Post #3748 (isolation #165) » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:53 am

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Like I don't know about y'all
But I'm just sitting here and be like "lynchGLlynchNEElynchGLlynchNEEGODWHYISTHEDAYNOTENDINGYETlynchGLlynchNEE"
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Post Post #3749 (isolation #166) » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:05 am

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But if I must provide my selling point for not being lunched today (seems like ppl are doing it so), it would be "I won't be hesitant with my reads and place a vote on my first post in LyLo."
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Post Post #3750 (isolation #167) » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:08 am

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Magical pagetop
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Post Post #3875 (isolation #168) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:02 am

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It's definitely beetlejuice. Totally.
I actually forgot about this game until just now.
I didn't miss much right?
If so, then bye
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Post Post #3876 (isolation #169) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:03 am

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And yes I'm still indifferent on who gets lunched because I still think all three are town.
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Post Post #3877 (isolation #170) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:11 am

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Oh also
I still don't see GL's vote on me when he should have 0 reason not to vote me atm
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Post Post #3878 (isolation #171) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:14 am

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Lynch me if you want:
  • Serious LyLo
  • Headache
Lynch Joey if you want/have:
  • Super paranoia about Joey somehow being scum
  • Meme
Lynch Suji if you want:
  • Your delusion that I will actually be all competent in LyLo
  • Hilarious third option
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Post Post #3879 (isolation #172) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:16 am

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I feel like scum put me in the list for an easy mislynch against two strongest townreads in the game, but backed out because too many town were townreading me more than they thought.
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Post Post #3880 (isolation #173) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:18 am

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In post 3879, DrCirno wrote:I feel like scum put me in the list for an easy mislynch against two strongest townreads in the game, but backed out because too many town were townreading me more than they thought.
Which actually totally makes sense and fits NEE/GL even more.
Well, at least definitely GL. Look at that scumbag not even voting me here despite having me as the strongest scumread for way too long.
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Post Post #3881 (isolation #174) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:20 am

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Like theoretically Joey could indeed be some sort of super deepwolf and Melanque got lucky with OMGUSing, but I just ain't feeling it this time.
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Post Post #3884 (isolation #175) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:35 am

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Time for a scum behavioral observation.

D2:
Titus
, NorwegianboyEE, and Correspondence/GL
D4: Awoo,
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D6: DrCirno, Suji, Joey

Day 2 had Titus-scum in it. We all know Titus is lulz and would gambit a shit ton.
Day 4 had at least two towns in it. I'm preeeeetty sure Awoo is town here, and I see no objection. So we can safely say that D4 had all towns in it.
Lulz-gambity Titus was lynched Day 2 and Day 4 has basically all town list. I think this suggests that after scum-Titus died, scum decided to play safe with the nomination.
If scum is keeping that safe attitude, I see no reason for scum to not put 3 town today. Because list doesn't really mean anything but bunch of wifom anyway amirite
I think from the remaining playerlist, I'm probably the most gambit-loving as scum. But I don't lolgambit (trust me, I don't actually gambit for a sake of it) and putting my name in the nomination after deliberately doing shit that I know town in general see as an eye-sore (trust me, I'm well too aware people frown upon blatantly sheeping) would mean more work for me to do. And I'm laaaaaaaaaaazy. If you were me you wouldn't even hesitate ruling me out here. RC as scum has 0 reason to put himself in the nomination list. I don't think rest of the players are gambity and bold enough to put their names on the list today as scum. GL and NEE certainly wouldn't put their name in the nomination because that will like 99% get them lynched. Based on what small amount I've seen from Suji so far I don't think he's a type to gambit as scum. Anyway, this is just bunch of blabbering, but this is why I think there is no scum in the nomination today.
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Post Post #3886 (isolation #176) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:38 am

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Oh yeah, Joey. I think scum-Joey 99.9% puts RC in the list.
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Post Post #3889 (isolation #177) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:40 am

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In post 3887, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@DrCirno
But who do you think would have the biggest chance of flipping scum on the current nomination list? Even if you think it's all town there's gotta be one you slightly lean scum more than the rest?
No not really.
Locktown is locktown and there is no such thing as tier in locktown.
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Post Post #3891 (isolation #178) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:42 am

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In post 3890, NorwegianboyEE wrote:So... Who do you prefer to die out of your locktowns? One's gotta go and you know that.
I did say I'm not voting anyone today multiple times.
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Post Post #3892 (isolation #179) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:43 am

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Like if I say I'm locktowning everyone in the list and pick someone to vote, that's me ruining the good ol' VCA for those who enjoys using one.
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Post Post #3894 (isolation #180) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:47 am

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Like I don't care if y'all be all paranoid and shit.
But deep down y'all know that these are all-town list and the only thing that dictates the lynch today is ego, pride, and secret deepwolf shenanigans.
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Post Post #3897 (isolation #181) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:51 am

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It's not like y'all can do that anymore.
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Post Post #3898 (isolation #182) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:52 am

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In post 3896, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If you know you're town then i don't see why you wouldn't vote someone that's not you, because then at least you'll have a chance from your own POV that you might hit scum.
I don't think you quite understand me.
I literally see 0% chance of hitting scum today regardless who I vote.
no hidden decimal, no error margin, no rounding error. Good ol' flat 0%.
There is 0% fmpov that I hit scum today.
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Post Post #3899 (isolation #183) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:01 am

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Also that I'm basically guaranteed lynch today anyway.
Joey will eventually come around and be a good townie he is and unvote himself.
GL will literally have to vote me today because otherwise it would be scumclaiming.
(I mean, he already scumclaimed by not voting me yet. He has 0 reason to not vote me today as town given what he've been posting, but he isn't. I call that fear of repercussion. But the longer it delays, harder he is scumclaiming.)
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Post Post #3900 (isolation #184) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:03 am

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Like, GL is not even "taking it slow" nor "reconsidering" anything. He's pretty much dead set on me being scum despite majority telling otherwise.
But he's still not voting me.
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Post Post #3901 (isolation #185) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:05 am

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Like I've been scum near LyLo before. I know that feeling of victory being close by and not wanting to mess up. I think it's pretty clear that GL is feeling exactly that. He knows he can't back out because he has no other options but he knows I'm being town as f right now so he can't push me harder.
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Post Post #3903 (isolation #186) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:08 am

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Now 90% of the time GL is gonna come around and say "but why wouldn't I vote you as scum if it will make me look bad"
Well that is called "I knew what you think all along and wouldn't act upon it" bullshit so it is safe to say that if he says something like that it can be ignored.
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Post Post #3904 (isolation #187) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:10 am

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In post 3902, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Well, stay alive if you want to push your scumread then. I've noticed a clear pattern that most people don't care too much about dead people's reads.
I mean my read is pretty universal.
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Post Post #3906 (isolation #188) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:17 am

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Anyway if I don't get lynched today let me tell you exactly what is going to happen.
Joey flips town today (bcause if its not me its gonna be him).
We quicklynch scumfuck GL tomorrow.
D8 list will contain {me, RC, suji} because regardless of NEE's alignment (for those who doesnt scumread NEE) he ain't gonna be in the list.
We then lollynch RC just to troll him and free him from this game.
And then in LyLo I troll around while NEE and suji crossvote.
Until I finally decide that enough is enough and hammer NEE.
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Post Post #3907 (isolation #189) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:18 am

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In post 3905, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 3903, DrCirno wrote:Now 90% of the time GL is gonna come around and say "but why wouldn't I vote you as scum if it will make me look bad"
Well that is called "I knew what you think all along and wouldn't act upon it" bullshit so it is safe to say that if he says something like that it can be ignored.
Who do you think would be the teammate to scum!GL?
I literally townread everyone else so hard to the point of locktown besides you/GL.
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Post Post #3908 (isolation #190) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:22 am

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Of course, I'm not saying that I can't be wrong.
But I don't really think nor have any reason to believe that I'm wrong here.
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Post Post #3909 (isolation #191) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:23 am

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Like what's the point of asking for my reads over and over again when it never changed ever since the start of D6, I was very clear about my reads, and showed nothing indicating that my read would change?
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Post Post #3910 (isolation #192) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:24 am

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I guess I should be asking NEE who the scum is if it isn't him.
(Because GL is definitely scum here and ain't nothing changes that.)
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Post Post #3913 (isolation #193) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:37 am

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I don't know what you mean by motivation there but I've been pretty clear this whole time.
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Post Post #3930 (isolation #194) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:24 pm

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In post 3924, GuiltyLion wrote:Cirrno keeps repeating this line about how it's scummy that I haven't voted him but RC explicitly asked not to vote until he's ready and keeps mentioning he wants more time and I'm happy to oblige him

nice try at the misrep
Aight I missed RC's post (haven't been reading his post since the start of Day 6). I'll give you that one.
In post 3926, GuiltyLion wrote:not at all caring who's lynched in this pool is town play?
but I'm taking it back for this strawmanning though. There is a very clear reason why I don't care who is lynched today.
In post 3927, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 3901, DrCirno wrote:Like I've been scum near LyLo before. I know that feeling of victory being close by and not wanting to mess up. I think it's pretty clear that GL is feeling exactly that. He knows he can't back out because he has no other options but he knows I'm being town as f right now so he can't push me harder.
if the team is really GL/nEE as you keep asserting, how are we "close to victory"? we'd definitely lose in that world lol
Closer to LyLo is closer to victory for scum. This is true for any scum combo. It's really easy for scum to feel "fuck it let's reach LyLo first and we'll figure something out."
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Post Post #3931 (isolation #195) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:26 pm

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It's not like that's the only reason I had anyway.

There are things like PoE / near-end of D5 reaction / your trajectories.
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Post Post #3932 (isolation #196) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:27 pm

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Oh btw if I get lynched today, I'll appreciate if people follow this too for maximum lulz
In post 3906, DrCirno wrote:Anyway if I don't get lynched today let me tell you exactly what is going to happen.
Joey flips town today (bcause if its not me its gonna be him).
We quicklynch scumfuck GL tomorrow.
D8 list will contain {me, RC, suji} because regardless of NEE's alignment (for those who doesnt scumread NEE) he ain't gonna be in the list.
We then lollynch RC just to troll him and free him from this game.
And then in LyLo I troll around while NEE and suji crossvote.
Until I finally decide that enough is enough and hammer NEE.
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Post Post #3933 (isolation #197) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:29 pm

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In post 3930, DrCirno wrote:There is a very clear reason why I don't care who is lynched today.
I'm gonna say it again so no one questions it ever again.
I'm treating today's nomination as list of confirmed town with 0 doubt whatsoever, and nothing you silly folks ever say will dissuade me from my belief.
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Post Post #3934 (isolation #198) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:30 pm

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So my lulz plan is actually "lynch everyone not on today's nomination even if they're obvtown."
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Post Post #3936 (isolation #199) » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:32 pm

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In post 3926, GuiltyLion wrote:the only reason anyone can give for his play being town is pisskop's replace out which I find
a) not town
and b) clearly being used by Cirrno to just fuck around the past two days. like sheeping along with RC on Menalque while trolling Menalque to bait him into getting more upset is townplay? not at all caring who's lynched in this pool is town play?
More like that's all you can muster out of good ol' town me.
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