Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]


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Post Post #4356 (isolation #0) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:43 am

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I think you did pretty well for what is probably one of your first scum games in the site Norwe.

This game was rough on scum to be fair.
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Post Post #4362 (isolation #1) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:29 pm

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It's not really doting on you Norwe.

From a setup pov only this is a considerable town sided game in my opinion.

3 goons vs 8 VT. Things to consider:

There's no scum NK, therefore town always direct the kills in the game, therefore any player being strongly town read turns this game a pain in the ass to scum (You just can't get rid of them). You need to mislynch 5 townies to win this while not loosing a single one of your buddies, if you lose one buddy, you need to lynch one person more.

I think it's reasonable to expect that a good team could put out 5 mislynches while only loosing 1 member, but even that wouldn't be enough to win the game, which is kind of ridiculous.

It doesn't really matter much about nominations, especially when the game get smaller, because there will always be scum available to lynch, and if there's not it's gonna be suspicious.

This game in more normal circumstances would end up as a scum win and that would be more reasonable. It might not seen like it but I think this is a heavily unbalanced game. 4 goon vs 8 VT, or 3 Goons vs 8 VT but nomination is only two people instead of three sounds more balanced to me.

Look at how much town mislynched and still won the game. It's kind of a tad bit ridiculous, not gonna lie.

Scum winning here needs them to mislynch a lot of people consecutively or last scum being one of the most town read slots in LyLo when there were several phases/lynches for town to analyze.

But ok, I'll stop.
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Post Post #4363 (isolation #2) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:34 pm

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Like RC said, he only needed one correct town read in the game and to not get lynched to win.

What kind of game there's no way for scum to NK anyone and there only needs to have 2 townies agreeing with each other that they're town to win? Especially in a game with lots of phases and opportunities for town spells?

Not taking away the town credit but it's potatoes logic, sorry chennis.

Scum kind of deserved to win more here imo.
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Post Post #4366 (isolation #3) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:39 pm

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Ah, I see

I kind of think best scum chance of winning this was to do some heavy theater, not really bussing, but making a whole theater about someone never getting in the pool along with someone else, while someone always appear in the pool, while another one appear sometimes and other times not, and try to pair up scum teams therefore you don't need to really be town read you just need to implant dichotomy pairing possibilities for LyLo

but like

it's really hard to do that realistically so yeah
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Post Post #4371 (isolation #4) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:45 pm

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To be fair I think that one of the reasons that RC was more about Joey/Mena was because he thought that mislynch you was worse than mislynching either Joey/Mena, because mislynching you wouldn't completely change gamestate therefore since he knew he had the insurance of not losing in mislynch them, he wasn't as worried about you being scum because you still wouldn't be able to win. But yeah, it was an achievement that you survived until LyLo.
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Post Post #4372 (isolation #5) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:48 pm

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For example in Mena vs RC, RC mislynching you would only make him lose standing in the Mena vs RC, but he knew that even if he mislynched Mena it would still be easier to lynch you because you weren't being that town read.

It was kind of tactical I think.
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Post Post #4373 (isolation #6) » Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:49 pm

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But anyway, I think you played good. That's it now I'll go back to watch anime.

Let's play again someday Norwe.
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