Newbie 1961 | Trees II | Over

[FancyPants]

Well, I'm convinced.
VOTE: Suspicious

[FancyPants]

UNVOTE: Suspicious

Just to avoid any mishaps you understand.

[FancyPants]

Tictac is town.

VOTE: Bailey
Follow the comf-town.

[FancyPants]

Jesus, I haven't even checked in and I almost got bumped off.

VOTE: Fancy

Srs vote?

[FancyPants]

Jesus, I haven't even checked in and I almost got bumped off.

VOTE: Fancy

Srs vote?

Do you believe it is?

I doubt it, but it would be something to talk about.

[FancyPants]

I'll allow slack on the timing since it is narrow, but I won't dismiss the possibility

that it was made to seek credibility

. #12 comes across as pretty LAMIST in hindsight. The reasoning behind not immediately unvoting was based on gauging the reactions of others I suppose? And then making the judgement call to back off when they did not. If I'm misinterpreting then let me know.

@ Suspicious, can you elaborate on the bolded part? Specifically go through the scum mindset you are seeing here.

VOTE: CJ
The more pages that pass without him making a first post, the townie he is.
This was too early.

@Vorkuta, I'm unclear what you mean by the above statement, can you clarify?

[FancyPants]

I want to keep talking with Fancy at the. And I have to say I doubt the initial vote as genuine RVS.

Is this directed at me btw? As in you doubt my original vote was RVS?
For the record it was. It'd rather wagon as it's more likely to spark discussion.

[FancyPants]

@Suspicious, ah Ok fair.

And that quoted portion was directed at you, but I botched it on mobile. Why did you declare tictac as a hard tr in #15?

I like uncertainty in my townies, but in reality it's a minor town read.
Trying to be provocative to get us out of RVS, but it seems like we're there already.

@CJ and January, if you were absolutely forced to lynch someone now, who would it be and why?

[FancyPants]

good mornin everyone

first time on mafiascum, not really familiar with this format so please bear with me

Please answer my question.

[FancyPants]

@jammy, talk me through the scum mindset you're feeling from the zenith vote.

[FancyPants]

@jammy, talk me through the scum mindset you're feeling from the zenith vote.

This is directed at you Jamelia.

[FancyPants]

@jam
u didn't ask for an explanation tho?
I'd also expect ya to be angry/annoyed that an L-1 happened yet I'm not really seeing that.

Get out of my head Charles etc.

@Jammy, you didn't really answer my question, I want you to talk to me about the scum-zenith mindset.
Let's imagine Zenith is scum, talk to me about why scum Zenith is making that vote.

@January, don't make promises you can't keep, because I pay attention.

@Suspicious, reading between the lines Bailey seems like a suspect of yours, why don't you join me on the wagon?

[FancyPants]

@jam
u didn't ask for an explanation tho?
I'd also expect ya to be angry/annoyed that an L-1 happened yet I'm not really seeing that.

Get out of my head Charles etc.

@Jammy, you didn't really answer my question, I want you to talk to me about the scum-zenith mindset.
Let's imagine Zenith is scum, talk to me about why scum Zenith is making that vote.

@January, don't make promises you can't keep, because I pay attention.

@Suspicious, reading between the lines Bailey seems like a suspect of yours, why don't you join me on the wagon?

To rush an RVS vote and hope someone doesn’t realize it’s L-1, and they just quick lynched a town

Yeah aight. Ties into the tictacs question.
Let me reiterate.
@Zenith, have you played games on Mafia Scum before?
If not what is your experience?

@Jammy, have you had a disastrous town whoopsie on mafia scum before (don't answer if it involves current games).

[FancyPants]

@jam
u didn't ask for an explanation tho?
I'd also expect ya to be angry/annoyed that an L-1 happened yet I'm not really seeing that.

Get out of my head Charles etc.

@Jammy, you didn't really answer my question, I want you to talk to me about the scum-zenith mindset.
Let's imagine Zenith is scum, talk to me about why scum Zenith is making that vote.

@January, don't make promises you can't keep, because I pay attention.

@Suspicious, reading between the lines Bailey seems like a suspect of yours, why don't you join me on the wagon?

To rush an RVS vote and hope someone doesn’t realize it’s L-1, and they just quick lynched a town

Yeah aight. Ties into the tictacs question.
Let me reiterate.
@Zenith, have you played games on Mafia Scum before?
If not what is your experience?

@Jammy, have you had a disastrous town whoopsie on mafia scum before (don't answer if it involves current games).

[FancyPants]

I'm still questioning and getting opinions. Like I said, these days being this long leave plenty of room to use votes to gain info. Right now, I'd like more out of Xen/Bailey/jan/Cee before moving forward.

You said voting gets info. You want more info from Bailey. So vote Bailey?

[FancyPants]

@Jammy, OK just tell me your experience please.
@January, please don't do this.

[FancyPants]

Edit: FOS is for cowards.

[FancyPants]

I'm still questioning and getting opinions. Like I said, these days being this long leave plenty of room to use votes to gain info. Right now, I'd like more out of Xen/Bailey/jan/Cee before moving forward.

You said voting gets info. You want more info from Bailey. So vote Bailey?

I'm waiting for them to offer answers. I don't mind having my vote sit for a time.

Fair enough.

Gun to my head you and tictac are town.
Scum are in: [Jammy/Vork/Ceejay] - > take note for end game.

[FancyPants]

guess i'm a coward
what exactly don't you want me to do?

@Suspicious, went back and saw that but my reasoning still stands. Might just be you using a different approach than me but I don't see how anything Bailey has done seems particularly scummy - the unvote seemed like a very natural time and what I would expect them to do as town, so I'd like to see how that seems scummy to you. What would you have expected them to do as town?

Don't be insecure about your opinions because it doesn't help us at all.
If you're wrong be wrong, it's annoying when people won't commit to a position.

[FancyPants]

That said, uncertainty is town, it's just not helpful.

[FancyPants]

@jam
u didn't ask for an explanation tho?
I'd also expect ya to be angry/annoyed that an L-1 happened yet I'm not really seeing that.

Get out of my head Charles etc.

@Jammy, you didn't really answer my question, I want you to talk to me about the scum-zenith mindset.
Let's imagine Zenith is scum, talk to me about why scum Zenith is making that vote.

@January, don't make promises you can't keep, because I pay attention.

@Suspicious, reading between the lines Bailey seems like a suspect of yours, why don't you join me on the wagon?

To rush an RVS vote and hope someone doesn’t realize it’s L-1, and they just quick lynched a town

How do you know suspicious is town?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jamelia
I already know you're scum. Confess to make it easier for your partner.

[FancyPants]

VOTE: CJ
The more pages that pass without him making a first post, the townie he is.
This was too early.

Hey I'm trying to give effort here and play better.

I don't want to be well known

that

way

I asked a question early, please answer when you're caught up.

[FancyPants]

@jam
u didn't ask for an explanation tho?
I'd also expect ya to be angry/annoyed that an L-1 happened yet I'm not really seeing that.

Get out of my head Charles etc.

@Jammy, you didn't really answer my question, I want you to talk to me about the scum-zenith mindset.
Let's imagine Zenith is scum, talk to me about why scum Zenith is making that vote.

@January, don't make promises you can't keep, because I pay attention.

@Suspicious, reading between the lines Bailey seems like a suspect of yours, why don't you join me on the wagon?

To rush an RVS vote and hope someone doesn’t realize it’s L-1, and they just quick lynched a town

How do you know suspicious is town?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jamelia
I already know you're scum. Confess to make it easier for your partner.

First of all, you’re absolutely ridiculous and way too aggressive.

Second, I don’t know if they’re town. I didn’t say that or imply that.

You have more experience than me. Tell me a time when a rushed RVS led to a scum lynch

The bolded sentence strongly implies that the suspicious wagon is a town wagon. Why am I wrong?

[FancyPants]

First of all, you’re absolutely ridiculous and way too aggressive.

+1
Tone it down ffs- I get that your MO is "power town" and "SPANISH INQUISITION", but your dominating attitude is not helping you score town points with me.

So vote me.

[FancyPants]

Scum Zenith might also have wanted to be on scum-suspicious's wagon to make himself look good?

Why can't they both be scum?

Why can't neither be scum?

I didn't forget my question I'm just trying to dig into your thought process.

[FancyPants]

I'm still questioning and getting opinions. Like I said, these days being this long leave plenty of room to use votes to gain info. Right now, I'd like more out of Xen/Bailey/jan/Cee before moving forward.

You said voting gets info. You want more info from Bailey. So vote Bailey?

I'm waiting for them to offer answers. I don't mind having my vote sit for a time.

Fair enough.

Gun to my head you and tictac are town.
Scum are in: [Jammy/Vork/Ceejay] - > take note for end game.

Out of curiosity, do you townread zenith? Or are you just implying that there is just one scum in there?

Let's wait for Zenith to talk a bit before I answer this.

[FancyPants]

First of all, you’re absolutely ridiculous and way too aggressive.

+1
Tone it down ffs- I get that your MO is "power town" and "SPANISH INQUISITION", but your dominating attitude is not helping you score town points with me.

So vote me.

Okay, let's no descend into vote-baiting. This is a one-way ticket to a mislynch on either side of the equation.

Nah I'm far from a mis-lynch. If you think I'm scum vote for me.

[FancyPants]

Scum Zenith might also have wanted to be on scum-suspicious's wagon to make himself look good?

Why can't they both be scum?

Why can't neither be scum?

I didn't forget my question I'm just trying to dig into your thought process.

It could be any of those options.

I’ve explained my thought process.

OK so this is your position (correct me if I'm wrong) you think the most likely scenario here is that Zenith voted in hopes of a quick lynch?

[FancyPants]

Scum Zenith might also have wanted to be on scum-suspicious's wagon to make himself look good?

Why can't they both be scum?

Why can't neither be scum?

I didn't forget my question I'm just trying to dig into your thought process.

It could be any of those options.

I’ve explained my thought process.

OK so this is your position (correct me if I'm wrong) you think the most likely scenario here is that Zenith voted in hopes of a quick lynch?

town points
My position is that I voted for Zenith because I wanted to hear why they put Suspicious on L-1. To me, without any context, that decision was scummy.

I’m not answering more questions from you about this.

OK maybe Jammy isn't scum, it's probably the other two.

[FancyPants]

Botched quote, I meant to say town points in my words.

[FancyPants]

Vork

seems townlean, Suspicious is townlean from 78. Overall engagement is nice.

Jam

is neutral though. Not enough from

CJ

and

Zenith

to make a read tbh,

January

sounds townlean atm because of 101.

Tictac

is the only one who seems scumlean to me. Because of 45, which is a bit of a stretch. But your vote is still on

Zenith

, and I wanna know why.

Is it still because he didn't answer your question?

Why the townlean on Vork?

Scum are in: [Jammy/Vork/Ceejay] - > take note for end game.

Out of curiosity, why Vork/CJ? I can

kinda

see the case for Jammy, but it feels like the other two don't have a lot of defining posts.

Process of elimination. That post from me was an ego post though.

@CJ, biggest scumread now?

[FancyPants]

I dont think Zenith is scum, it doesn't feel right, stuff like putting people at L-1 happens in Newbies at the time. I'd say his odds of being scum are about the same as what they were at the beginning of the game, I.e 2/9.

I do kind of what do lynch him now though for the wagon information but that's not good enough a couple days in.

@Georgebailey if you absolutely had to lynch someone now, who would it be and why?

@vort, what are your feelings on Zenith? In fact can everyone who Hasn't given feelings on the Zenith wagon, please do so.

[FancyPants]

@CeeJay, can you elaborate on your reasons for your Zenith vote for posterity?

[FancyPants]

Afk until Monday, world cup quarter final tomorrow and I'm either getting sad drunk or happy drunk.

V/LA noted --P

[FancyPants]

I've received my prod and still can't respond to it for to it for the next 26 hours, I quite literally don't have time to contribute until then
If you feel the need to replace me, you can but I will get back to this game tomorrow evening, cross my heart and hope to die.

[FancyPants]

@Everyone, I've asked to replaced. When I signed on I thought I'd be able to make time, but I've been proven wrong.