Open 769 Mafia Chat

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Sigh

All i want to be is town :/

Ok any thoughts on what numbers to pick? One of us should take the high random number so as to get a pick before all the doubles

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Funfact: this is the setup i won my scummy for last year

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Also i'm going to be vla on monday and tuesday

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Also why are we sending in two numbers @mod?

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And we'll def help you, billy

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Wait i thought this was the standard pyp x|y setup

I have to study the specifics of this setup a bit, then

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Ya i thought we were playing the original pyp x|y, sorry

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I'm thinking one of us picks a very low number will probably double but if doesnf we get one of the first picks (like 1 and 2)

One of us picks a middling low number that may or may not double (4-6)

And one of us picks a random very high number taht is almost for sure not going to be doubled but will very probably be after all the singles (like 42)

Thoughts?

Also from past experience people who double are almost cleared from being scum together, but i wouldnt particularly recommend doing that on purpose

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?

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Did sirfetched confirm?
Also this might be an odd request but can i ask that we have the full 48 hours for picking numbers?

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Tyty, i would like the 48 hours if possible

Hopefully he'll post here soon

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i'm not inherently against bussing but:

a) i don't want to have to carry until like 3way lylo, it's hard
b) i don't want to lose out on prs
c) i want to get as much info about the setup as possible

it will make us look fundementally unaligned but i'm not sure it's worth giving up these things ^

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ok
so billy is 4,8
you're 4,6?

i want to try to go for at least one single tho if we're purposefully going doubles then i want to go for a high single (like 42 or something), as opposed to a low single that might end up doubled. i want to make sure we get at least a chance at getting some prs

(i'm not sure this is suuuuch a great idea but if you and billy want to do it i won't object)

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ok

i'm not going to have internet access for the next two days starting in a couple of hours

i tentatively submit 42, 5

if you guys want to switch that for me go ahead

i should be back before we need to submit pr picks

if you guys want to double on purpose i guess i'm ok with that but i think we'll be giving up valuable info and flexibility, imo

billy what did you mean by dividing by 15?

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I want one of us to get a vig, if possible

I get a lot of leeway for this sort of thing, so i'm not too worried about the high single pick

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I kinda want a vig, or redirector

But taking redirector over cop is a scumclaim, and i doubt the cop will even be left either

Although it is p easy to fake being a cop

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I can do a stupid amount of damage as neighborizer tho

Some smart duckies might think that's scummy of me tho, not sure. I can probably talk my way out of that tho

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Dont take a scummy pr pick, it'll get you lynched, i think

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I want to try very hard for a vig tho

And i'm kinda anticipating murderizing the duck early ?

Idk if you wanna go neighborizer and i try for n2 vig we can do that

I'd be cool with getting neighborizer and you taking perfectionist vig too

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primary - neighborizer
Secondary - n2 vig

@esp if you wanna take neighborizer put me first as n2 vig, second as redirector, i'm about to get on a plane, not sure i'll be around again

I think i can do a ridiculous amount of pocketing with neighborizer tho, and that i'll prob get it

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Great. We'll see what happens

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Yep.

Tentatively want to get rid of ducky, nom, and something smart early

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Got it, sorry about that :/

Should i ask thewizard to redact the nickname in 43?

Also i got neighborizer

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Eh i'd go for jk, it doesnt read as that scummy

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/conf neighborizer if i hadn't made it official yet

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Flubber very probabky took cop

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All's good. I'll be around later.

And yeah i think first townies always go for cop or jk here, and we know he doesnt have jk

I wonder what rb went for

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Sorry Skitt, voted you, but I move these RVS votes alot, and I think this may help us get some distance anyway.

I might pick a fight with you

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Sorry, i had to deal with an emergency today, i will tey really hard to be here soon

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Yay for expanding scumranges, i guess

Time to see how much i can take advantage of that

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Look at post 60

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I'm being experimental in my scumplay but i'm not sure how well it's working

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Skitt, if you want we can 1v1 here.

Sure

I hope i'm not pushing too hard :/ it's hard to find the right balance

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Got it

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Bleh i'm not trying to push a wagon on you, sorry, just going for the distancing thing

Should i try to deescalate this or

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Ok. I just dont want u to end up lynched today

If we can get kerset lynched instead, that would be awesome

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I'm not even on you, i'd be the fifth vote, i think

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you're fine, that's what the whole billy thing is for me rn

let's try not to get billy lynched rn tho

let's also try not to bus me if possible

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i've literally never played scum like this before so i'm being kinda experimental

i'm not sure i can endgame playing like this in this playerlist, fair warning
(i definitely can't doing my usual scum thing in this playerlist, which is why i'm even trying this)

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@mod are we multitasking ?

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Anyone else having problems posting?

Not today

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I'm p sure it's off of you today

I'm not convinced it's going to be you tom either

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I'm ok with that actually

I'm going to 'try' to neighborize luca

Thoughts on the nk? I want ss out, ideally, but he's the obvious doc target, i think

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Flub's potentially mislynchable tho
I prefer to nk townies that tend to control the dayphase thru strong ppay

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I'm thinking ss, nom, or rb

Luca's obvtown but doesnt have as much influence so he's not as urgent

I'm probably not going to be here before deadline

Billy i still dont think ur getting lynched today, the vote is for distancing purposes

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i feel like i'm playing this p awfully, sorry guys :/

not sure how to play this night

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sorry billy :/
i couldn't really disentangle at this point, i don't think i should have voted for you yesterday :/

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Oh dear, i hope things go ok for u

Why xayah?

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ya

if you want you can 'fake' jk'ing me and i can do the nk?

we'll be in trouble if someone tracks you (or me) but we would be anyways

the thing with xayah is that she was the cw to billy tho

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And who are we murderizing?

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Ok. I'm going to have to either claim vt later down the line or magic up an explanation for why it didnt work

And if my action 'failed' i need to start acting like it did now

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ok

site is being ridiculously slow / keeps crashing for me so i don't know if i'll see this again

you can argue jk'ing wooper?

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Sweet

Also i forgot but apparently i rolled gunsmith and am now one of the strongest remaining investigatives, didnt you know.

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Also what the fuck is flubber if he's neither cop or jk

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ok time to do a little analysis of the setup

roles

: (the ones crossed out are the ones we know are in play)
Night 2 Vigilante OR Vengeful
Perfectionist Vigilante OR 1-shot PGO

Sane Cop OR 2-shot Redirector

~ rb, cop

Conditional-Commuter OR 1-shot Watcher

~ unknown
Doctor OR Roleblocker

Universal Backup w/ 1-shot override OR Role Cop

~ unknown - fuck if they took backup the cop is back

Neighborizer OR Gunsmith

~ me

Jailkeeper OR Tracker

~ you
1-shot Governor OR 5-ability JOAT

unless wooper was vig it's unlikely perfectionist vig is in play

players

:
Flubbernugget ~ powered, unknown
rb ~ sane cop, dead
Sirfetchd ~ jk
Something_Smart
AaronFrost
Xayah
skitter30 ~ neighborizer
Kerset
PMysterious
wooper
Sujimichi
Luca Blight
nomnomnom
Billy Pilgrim ~ goon

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my guess is flub took joat but unsure

gut something smart took backup

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ya for sure

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Whoops

My goal for today is to lynch nom or flub

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My gut says ss is took backup and is now a cop ... notice how he's stopped taking a leadership role?

I think we murderize him tonight

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i think i'm goign to pretend to fake an inno on aaron (unless, of course, he reveals that he wouldn't be a gunsmith clear)

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i think if we can lynch one of nom/flub today
and then nk (or jk, i guess) ss tonight

we'll be in very good shape

one of my goals is to take out the ~loud~ voices, so that we're the remainign loud voices

and i think this hsould take care of most of them ^

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I think that is a poor idea when you are running the town.

Don't muddy the water. I have a history of game solving which is why I did that to stop scum lean momentum.

Lik it's your life, but I think this is a case of be patient. Save it for massclaim.

oh not now, this is planting the seeds for ~much~ later, just kinda keeping my options open and putting down the right ground work so i can play things a few different ways later depending on how things develop

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ya he's the other one i'm worried about but he doesn't really ~effort~ any more i think so i'm not sure he's quite as urgent of a concern

if nom decides to play ~hard~ she's scary

ss is scary mechanically + he can turn on the charisma/obvtown

and the duck is of course the duck

once these guys are out i think we just control the narrative

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SS: If only I wasn't distancing myself from universal BU.

yep it's him

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you can't jk him and expect to be townread after you claim jk, it just won't work

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Aaron is a pr

And i think we kill something smart tonight

The next 3 mislynches are going to be aaron, nom, flub in some orde rand that just about takes us to lylo, i think

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my gut is that aaron is n2 vig

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Ya i agree dead!aaron would be great

But i dont think i can manuever a vote onto him today

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Oh maybe: you're scumreading aaron and so u jk him?
Not sure

But we have to murderize ss tonight, i think

I think i'm faking being a gunsmith which may be ~tricky~
Maybe i can get by with being a vt

I hopefully go late-ish in massclaim

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I think he was talking about you bussing nom

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thouhgts on you jk'ing aaron?

i think that might come off as scummy

who are you thinking about jk'ing?

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i don't know if i should go for the vt or gunsmith route
i think i need to do the nk basically always which means i can't actually do my role

i think ss has got to go
if you block him i think it's a scumclaim?

i don't know about aaron :/
i dont' know what he's softing

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Agree with killing ss

I think so long as aaron isnt a vig who shoots you his pr doesnt matter that much

I think tomorrow we try to lynch in flub, xayah and aaron

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We def need to shoot ss

Idk would you want to jk aaron? I'm not entirely opposed to the idea but if he is actually pgo that's be p bad

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I really hope i can fake vt ... i really dont want to have to fake an inno each night, it'll make the game impossible

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My gut is that flub is JOAT, thoughts?
And aaron is the pgo/n2 vig slot

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Ok we'll do that then!

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Maybe we'll be lucky and he'll, like, vig adorable for us or something

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ok aaron is a n2 vig, i guess, since xayah died and we didn't kill her

there can't be a redirector because the cop slot died

so i either got rb'd or ss got docced

i could claim gunsmith but i may have gotten rb'd

it makes more sense to me that ss got docced, i think

the rb/doc can't be flub since you jk'd him

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ok time to do a little analysis of the setup

roles

: (the ones crossed out are the ones we know are in play)
Night 2 Vigilante OR Vengeful
Perfectionist Vigilante OR 1-shot PGO

Sane Cop OR 2-shot Redirector

~ rb, cop

Conditional-Commuter OR 1-shot Watcher

~ unknown

Doctor OR Roleblocker

- unknown, can't be flub

Universal Backup w/ 1-shot override OR Role Cop

~ unknown - fuck if they took backup the cop is back

Neighborizer OR Gunsmith

~ me

Jailkeeper OR Tracker

~ you
1-shot Governor OR 5-ability JOAT

unless wooper was vig it's unlikely perfectionist vig is in play
either n2 vig or perfectinist vig is in play since xayah died n2
doc/rb has to be in play since ss didn't die n2

players

:
Flubbernugget ~ powered, unknown
rb ~ sane cop, dead
Sirfetchd ~ jk
Something_Smart ~ very very probably backup/cop
AaronFrost ~ very probably n2 vig/perfectionist vig
Xayah ~ vt, dead
skitter30 ~ neighborizer
Kerset
PMysterious
wooper
Sujimichi
Luca Blight
nomnomnom ~ dead
Billy Pilgrim ~ goon, dead

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fuck we have to go doc-hunting in order to kill ss

doc has to be in the kerset-luca block, but i have no idea who
gut says wooper since he's probably the only other person i'd have expected here to doc ss (or rb me)

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we might just be fucked mechanically, but i really hope not

if ss decided to check me i have to claim gunsmith, i htink

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Actually ss can also nominally be conditional commuter but that doesnt explain his drastic play change day2

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Ss didnt check aaron last night, so now i'm confused

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@mod if a gunsmith checks the joat the same night they use their kill ability, what result do they get?

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Kerset might be backup actually

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Ya ducky is softing something too? Not sure

I really really hope he didnt rb me ...
Wouldnt make sense with his reads tho

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What result could he even have ... we know where the investigatives are already

Actually he might be faking something? He just did this in the last game i played with him

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kerset or ducky?

i'm p sure aaron all but claimed the kill

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maaaaaybe? i don't think so ?
i'm not sure

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Damn my reads are shit, which I guess shouldn't be all that surprising. Probably gonna reread at some point.

Would definitely be down to lynch Flubb.

this looks like he's claiming it to me, kinda

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Oh fuck maybe that would make a lot of sense

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Oh how do i even answer that ...

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Ya i'll be around soonish, on a phone call

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what the hell that went completely over my head lol

ok i'll be back later

so then what's aaron ?????

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@mod if a gunsmith checks the universal backup the same night the cop died (and the ub becomes cop), what result does the gunsmith get?

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dw i won't pick a fight with tw over it, just like healthy skepticism

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ya

i've literally never interacted in real time like this during a rapidly evolving situation as scum before, it's literally out of my established scumrange

i *think* we're the last two claims in the proposed order?

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which gives me free reign to be a gunsmith, i guess?
want to try to talk over together what i'm claiming if i can before i have to

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i don't, i need a lot of careful contemplation and need to know like exactly where the gamestate is and where it's going

and there's too much chaos rn for me to feel super comfortable
like once massclaim has happened and i see where we are and what needs to happen i'll feel more comfortable, i think

i think rn we let wooper run the show since neither of us are in any danger

(also going to bed soonish in this timezone, we mgiht miss each other before i have to claim; i guess just leave your thoughts for me and i'll look tom)

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ok time to do a little analysis of the setup

roles

: (the ones crossed out are the ones we know are in play)

Night 2 Vigilante OR Vengeful

- wooper, n2 vig

Perfectionist Vigilante OR 1-shot PGO

- flub, pgo

Sane Cop OR 2-shot Redirector

~ rb, cop

Conditional-Commuter OR 1-shot Watcher

~ unknown

Doctor OR Roleblocker

- unknown, can't be flub

Universal Backup w/ 1-shot override OR Role Cop

~ unknown - aaron

Neighborizer OR Gunsmith

~ me

Jailkeeper OR Tracker

~ you
1-shot Governor OR 5-ability JOAT

doc/rb has to be in play since ss didn't die n2

players

:
Flubbernugget ~ 1s pgo
rb ~ sane cop, dead
Sirfetchd ~ jk
Something_Smart ~ powered, unknown
AaronFrost ~ backup cop
Xayah ~ vt, dead
skitter30 ~ neighborizer
Kerset
PMysterious
wooper ~ n2 vig
Sujimichi
Luca Blight ~ vt
nomnomnom ~ dead
Billy Pilgrim ~ goon, dead

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Well flub's pick was a scumclaim, so that's cool

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I was thinking i 'guiltied' him last night, hence starting today with voting him

Idk who i'd have checked n1, xayah maybe?

Do u think commiting to this is worth the long-game?
I'm going to have to be generating innos for a while.

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If i'm going to do this we need to get rid of aaron asap

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Jk doest make people ascetic - you rb'd flub and prevented him from dying, not from other actuons working on him.

Check ur pm to be sure but i'm like 98% certain that's how it works

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I thought that, cuz it would explain the missing nk, but i've been looking for crumbs wrt me and i dont see any - i think he would have started the day voting me if that was yhe case?

But yeah if we could get him to claim first that would be great

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actually ss going last is probably fine

because at the point where i'd need to claim there will only be you and him unclaimed

which means that if the doc/rb block isn't claimed it has to be him

he might be watcher? idk

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oh wait he might just be commuter?

idk i'll take a look and see if i can find his crumbing thing

i don't think he's an invest with anything useful because he believes heavily in crumbing and he started today on aaron

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ok the kill went missing, and the options are:

- joat (not ss) sed doc on ss
- joat rb'd me
- rb rb'd me
- doc (not ss) docced ss
- ss is joat and commuted
- ss is commuter

these are the only options

and some should be ruled out soonish, i think

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i'm looking, he talks about crumbs like a lot; don't see anything relevant to here in particular

i really don't think he's an invest

by the time it gets to me he's going to be the only unknown role and i think we should (probably?) be able to narrow it down a lot

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... you raise a good point, well done
SS claiming last is fine if he's comfortable his crumb is great

please continue as you were. Sirfetched and skitter will be the sanity officers while i'm away

oh ducky sweaty <3

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hence letting him run the show for now

i really don't think ss is any kind of invest (or at least, hasn't used any sort of invest shot)
i hope he's just the commuter and that's it

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does he start the game asking governor to claim if he's joat?

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yeah actually i can see that

what is investigate for a joat anyways? is it a cop-shot?

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ok time to do a little analysis of the setup

roles

: (the ones crossed out are the ones we know are in play)

Night 2 Vigilante OR Vengeful

- wooper, n2 vig

Perfectionist Vigilante OR 1-shot PGO

- flub, pgo

Sane Cop OR 2-shot Redirector

~ rb, cop

Conditional-Commuter OR 1-shot Watcher

~ unknown
Doctor OR Roleblocker -

Universal Backup w/ 1-shot override OR Role Cop

~ aaron, pgo

Neighborizer OR Gunsmith

~ me

Jailkeeper OR Tracker

~ you
1-shot Governor OR 5-ability JOAT

for the n2 nk to go missing, either:
- doc on ss (ss not doc)
- joat on ss (ss not joat)
- joat rb'd me
- rb rb'd me
- ss is commuter
- ss is joat and commuted

players

:
Flubbernugget ~ 1s pgo
rb ~ sane cop, dead
Sirfetchd ~ jk
Something_Smart ~ powered, unknown
AaronFrost ~ backup cop
Xayah ~ vt, dead
skitter30 ~ neighborizer
Kerset
PMysterious
wooper ~ n2 vig
Sujimichi
Luca Blight ~ vt
nomnomnom ~ dead
Billy Pilgrim ~ goon, dead

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Ok i guess i'm a gunsmith now

So who did i target.

I'm thinking aaron n1 (returned inno, why i wasnt interested in him yesterday)
And flub last night

That would take aaron out of the lynch pool tho

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Maybe xayah n1

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Not sure i'm following ur plan?
Public knowledge that scum are multitasking
Flub is very likely today's lynch, barring ss guiltying me or something

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Hmmmmm ok
I need to think about this for a bit

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So you're saying i should claim some other pick altogether? And that the real gunsmith would be below me ?

I think that creates a lynch pool of me/suji/kerset/adorable, and i'd need to be the last lynched out of all of those

And if i flip the remainder become perceived as town

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In a vaccuum i'm prob the last lynched of those 4, but we need exactlu all of them to go first if flub isnt lynched today

I'm willing to try, and i think there's a decent-ish chance i can do it, but no promises, it might just all go very south

I can turn on the cocky 'do you really think i'm dumb enough to claim something that will directly implicate me' bit and it'll carry for a day or two, i think

Or i just get insta-lynched :shrug:

Or ss guilties me

Idk i'm willing to do it id you want me to with the understanding that i'm not confident i can carry thru lylo but that i'll do my best

And people above me will be implcated when i flip because they'll figure out i've been doing the nks

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idk i can do either

claiming vt is a hard commit that puts me in the lynch pool, but like last
gunsmith is riskier wrt night actions. it would prob be aaron n1 and flub n2

either way

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yep, let's see what adorable and kerset claim

of course if ss is a watcher and saw me last night i'm in trouble either way so :shrug:

pedit that's almost impossible

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wait a second so far doc is free

something just occured to me

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i'm p sure he isn't the doc slot
he couldn't have docced himself and if rb'd me last night he'd be voting me rn

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Ok i think i gotta go with gunsmith ?

N2 on flub
N1 on either aaron or xayah. Xayah would be better for us wrt not clearing the cop but worse wrt the fact that my play doesnt super support it
(Whereas my dayplay does kinda look like i may have innoed aaron n1)

Idk i can argue a lot aaron better but it would prob make us worse off mechanically

Whatever u think

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i could have done aaron n1 but once i 'inno' him we can't argue he's a scum backup cop anymore, it just removes that option; other than that it's fun

as of rn it doesn't look like an rb is in play unless it's kerset/ss or joat

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yeah mid day 2 a bunch, he was around nulltown but i very very very deliberately didn't push him at all yesterday

also we know that kerset/ss has to be watcher/commuter

simplest explanation is that ss commuted last night

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i could have done aaron n1 but once i 'inno' him we can't argue he's a scum backup cop anymore,

it's the safest option for me dayplay-wise but it removes the possibility of him being a mislynch at all

idk just let me know either way; it'll look better if i do aaron over xayah i can tell you that much

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Ok i'm probably fucked.

Ss has to be rb or joat (who either commuted or rb'd me)
There's nowhere else for the nk to have gone

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@mod whag happens if a jk targets a rb? Does the rb's action go thru?

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Ok i think these are our options:

- i claim gunsmith with 2 results. Ss probably cc's me. I may or may not win, but i definitely get lynched after he flips
- gunsmith with one result and one rb. Would be consistent with ss rb'ing me, but i'd be implicated for the fact that i got rb'd the night the nk went missing. also if he isnt actually rb (and is joat/commuter) i'm in trouble (but then i think you just claim to have jk'd me?)
- i claim vt with non-gunsmith related picks and someone is lying, which points me squarely in the lynch pool but probably not immediately

Idk you'll have to deal with the aftermath, so whatever you like

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I actually dont think he has an rb guilty on me from how he's acting but i have no idea where the nk went
(Why is he voting and pushing aaron if he has an rb guily on me? His most recent two posts today also dont support that)

Idk you tell me how you want me to play this in the way that you think will set yourself up as best as possible

I could just yolo claim and hope he's joat who commuted last night idk

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Yeah that's what i'm saying, he's not playing like he has a guilty on me

He could be really good at acting but idk i dont see it

If he's rb there's nothing in his early day2 play indicating who he'd have rb'd either (and he's a very strong proponent of crumbs so i think he'd make sure to crumb the rb at daystart today after a missing nk)

Maybe this is what i want to see but idk i dont see it

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Ok who do i claim it on?

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N1 aaron
N2 no result on ss

If he's a commuter or rb that works.

We might end up in a scenario where i'm the only person claiming rb'd and there's a missing nk last night

But then ... do i knowingly claim rb'd as scum if i know that there's a missing nk?

I think this covers most of our bases tho?

You might need to claim you jk'd me or something, depending

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I'm ok with that, i think ^
If this goes horribly south just be prepared to bus me hard
You jk'd me last night and have a soft guilty or something

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Ya ok with this ^ ?

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Wait ir's commuter and not ascetic. Commuter wouldnt return no result

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i thought commute was just that they dont' die? or am i wrong?

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oh you're right, i just checked the wiki ... sweet

ok n1 aaron - no gun
n2 ss - no result

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ok great, gonna handle a few modding things and then do this
and hopefully we didn't overlook stuff and this doesn't entirely blow up on us

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let's see how much of a shitshow this becomes

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i hate having to bullshit things out of thin air, sigh

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i hate having to bullshit things out of thin air, sigh

^ legit my least favorite part about playing scum

i didn't set myself ~well~ up for this really

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no i think u should be super skeptical of me and be like the first person to hop in if i get wagoned ... if we want to win you need to get as much cred as possible, i think

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oh you're claiming blocking flub?

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i think i'm just going to run with a tone of:

being firm and cocky and being like 'no you're just wrong and not understanding sorry' and just keep repeating the same thing over and over again as if it's obvious and everyone should be agreeing with me

how long this will last? who knows

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ya we shall see

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oh and i can pull the 'c'mon i don't fake-claim this badly' card on luca and wooper

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oh i might be in trouble because i just assumed this was a normal gunsmith and a detective/psychologist-called gunsmith instead of normal gunsmith ffs

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and sweet we got ss right

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i really hope i dont' perspective slip badly :/

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ss probably protects aaron tonight

so i think tonight:
you jk him
i nk aaron

and tomorrow ss is pushed for not doccing the cop?

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oh and after flub's townflip you 'jk' me?
so i get another no result too
and it'll make the night actions majorly confusing if i ever flip

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ok w/e nobody noticed

xayah wasn't the scum kill, i'm n2 vig

i thought that aaron was n2 vig

Skitter....explain this as well, please.

oh i forgot about that ....

ideas?

this is start of day3 after wooper claimed the xayah kill

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sigh, sorry :/
i didn't play this particularly well

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ya i fucked up, sorry

wait just a bit and see how ss/wooper react ... if they pounce just run with it
maybe stick to your guns about wanting flubber first because you have a soft guilty (to match your role) but make it very very very clear you want me next

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ya

i gotta head to bed so i'm not super tired at work tom but i'll see what damage control i can do tom

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i mean it'll depend on how long this gets dragged out + i'm already on flub

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I think you just do the kill and claim you blocked me. Obvs my partner would do the kill last night

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Oh wait that doesnt work if ss tries to shoot me.
Ok i need to think

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Announce in thread that you're jk'ing me tonight? No reason for ss to shoot in that scenario

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This is fascinating

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I'm p sure ss doesnt shoot me tonight so you just do the kill and claim you blocked me, i think

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Actually no that'll be bad for you when i flip neighborizer

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This is fascinating

I'm basically making up stuff as i go along that directly contradicts ehat i've said before and apparently, for the most part, people are willing to squint and move on cuz of my rep

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Eh spoke to soon

But that was actually p interesting

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ya that's kinda what i'm trying to do, like this whole thing is a ridiculous thing to be scumreading me for and come on i could have done this better so this is a dumb af reason to be scumreading me

trying to turn up the cockiness and like ~entitled~ ness and i feel a little weird trying to project that

how well it turns out we shall see

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ya sounds good

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thanks
happy you to hear that

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god i'm bad at in real time bullshitting, i hate it so much

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i feel like i freeze like a deer in the headlights and literally everything i'm thinking flies out of my head
i know that luca isn't who we're trying to play

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Well if ss tries to shoot anyone that would be bad
Let me think about it

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Ok i think this depends on whether or not we think i'm just getting lynched tomorrow.
Odds on me eking out another day?

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Ok yeah that's basically what i was thinking .... if i'm getting lynched anyways i might as well eat a cop guilty while you take care of ss, i think ss's role is longterm more dangerous even if short-term aaron prob guilties me

For fun i could claim a gunsmith guilty on you or something if you want to distance that way

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Ok sure. Will claiming rb'd make us look aligned after i flip tho?

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I think it will ... i'm a neighborizer, if i didnt do the nk and the nk isnt missing, how do i know to claim rb'd and not to make up a result?

sirfetched murderizes something smart

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i can do that, or you can just post before me and say that you rb'd me

or i can claim a result, but i'm worried that if i give one it'll be read as a reason to inno someone

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ok, do u want me to claim a result, and if yes, what on who?
i'll do whatever you think will make the rest of the game easier for you

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ok.
i'll check in here before i do anything

ss is dying tonight tho, unless he rb'd you which i would find to be incredibly unlikely (?). of course that would just be a shitshow so let's hope that doesn't actually happen

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how the hell do i not get checked by the cop after yesterday

ok let me know how you want me to play this (claim inno on someone, claim rb (you'd need to claim you jk'd me in thread first tho))

and we'll see how much bs i can spout before i get lynched

but feel free to ham up the distancing as much as you want

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I also dont entirely understand the logic for town!flub -> town!me

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Bleh i seem to have put you in hot water,
I feel like i've just bungled this mechanically entirely

Sorry

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i feel like everything i've tried to do this game has been just ~off~ and like the ~wrong choice~; i haven't played scum this badly in a while

i just feel kinda bad because people usually depend on me to deepwolf and i kinda failed p miserably on that

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i murderize aaron

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Ok new plan: try to get as many mislynches as i can before they realize i should have been lynched like two phases ago

Goal is to see how long i can survive, not necessarily to win

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I think my mislynch pool is like exactly 2/3 of wooper, luca, and adorable, thanks to the whole damned fake inno thing fml

Kerset is hard to kill due to commuter, if suji is out of lynch pool he just dies tonight i think

+ kerset seems to want to lynch wooper

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Ideally wooper today and then fake a guilty on adorable tomorrow or something

How the fuck i'll manage that remains to be seen

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i murderize suji

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Apparently now: wooper tom -> guilty on luca in lylo fuck me

Me kerset luca 3way is manageable, i guess

Not sure i can really do anything else given the constraints rn

I think i lose this in 3way

But tbf to go from like 10 people and a bs claim to lose 3way is semi-decent

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I guess nominally we can try for kerset today but i really really dont want to lose the nk

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And killing mislynch options is dumb

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I'm not dead because i'm last scum's potential mislynch maybe idk or something

Sigh

Yeah

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i murderize adorable

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i kinda hope kerset just makes a choice soon, i hate the back-and-forht when i feel like i'm making up bs the whole time

so idk let's see how this goes

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you guys were great, and this was probably unwinnable from like ~day3 so not sure if i can pull this off but eh let's see what i can do

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so much fucking bs
and the whole ~projecting cockiness~ thing