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Prod received.
Between real life obligations and the site running like crap every time I visited (including this time.. but it seems to be getting better) I am way behind. Catch up incoming shortly.
On a side note it just took me over almost two hours to release PTs, edit posts/titles, and create a final vote count for my modded game that just ended. Having to click all those links and make changes is very not fun during site lag.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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1 thing before my break tho
I would like to pass my Goddammit onto teacher who pointed out the VT slip before me, which milds my spicy observation as well as yours.In post 776, the worst wrote:
Goddamnit eth0s. This was my spicy observation. One more thing to say on the subject.In post 770, eth0s wrote:--on a side note I think this implicates at least one newb as the scumteam, probably 2, because why kill bugspray after they VT slipped?--it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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Nope. You were voting Gyro.In post 787, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Uh, I am voting himIn post 785, eth0s wrote:
okay? then why aren't you voting him or at least poking him or something?In post 591, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I mean to me, Fishy is scummy as all balls. Being at the top of my scumread listIn post 590, the worst wrote:It's hard to townread another slot over yourself tbf but I getchu. I wrote up my paragraph on Gyro last thing before I slipped out of the thread before so I think I've done that thing to myself where my last memory of him was warm fuzzy feelings; still think he's town but I'm also aware I'm slightly tunnelling myself into townreading him tonight.
how are you feeling about Mr. Fishy aorn? any thoughts on my idea of pushing the scum who is easier to read correctly and hunting back from there?it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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Even with teacher blatantly point it out later?In post 780, Formerfish wrote:I didn't mean to post that. I was just going to say I didn't see it but I've had my head up my ass a bit so...it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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middle mouse master raceIn post 788, Formerfish wrote:
What fucking sorcery is this? Hang the witch!!!In post 783, eth0s wrote:click middle mouse on the "quote" button (opens in new tab).it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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the facepalm wasn't about your hammer per seIn post 791, Formerfish wrote:
Yeah I get that about my hammer, but again my thought process on my hammer wasIn post 785, eth0s wrote:
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Gyro was voting me, im town, so he was either scum or town that could die.In post 603, Micc wrote:
Bug was voting me and was killed over night. This is a hamfisted attempt to tie the kill to me because if bug is a live hes going to keep pushing me and scum!me would need to limit that. The scum team kills him to shade me.
The other person voting me yesterday was worst.
So thats where my vote goes because i doubt both scum were on the mislynch.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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not following thisIn post 792, teacher wrote:
And that is? Like if I didn’t know better, I’d say you’ve been playing your town game to. T, especially with the welcoming newb/tryharding. But here I do and it’s coming across a little laminate/pockety, ya dig?In post 776, the worst wrote:
Goddamnit eth0s. This was my spicy observation. One more thing to say on the subject.In post 770, eth0s wrote:--on a side note I think this implicates at least one newb as the scumteam, probably 2, because why kill bugspray after they VT slipped?--it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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In post 803, Formerfish wrote:
I havent really been reading teachers posts, justIn post 795, eth0s wrote:
Even with teacher blatantly point it out later?In post 780, Formerfish wrote:I didn't mean to post that. I was just going to say I didn't see it but I've had my head up my ass a bit so...blindlysucking up to him.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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I'ma keep it real with you chief
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I know this is a bit unorthodox but can you explain this to me? I know teacher said it but it's about you, you apparently understood it, and I'm more interested in you than him.In post 798, eth0s wrote:
not following thisIn post 792, teacher wrote:
And that is? Like if I didn’t know better, I’d say you’ve been playing your town game to. T, especially with the welcoming newb/tryharding. But here I do and it’s coming across a little laminate/pockety, ya dig?In post 776, the worst wrote:
Goddamnit eth0s. This was my spicy observation. One more thing to say on the subject.In post 770, eth0s wrote:--on a side note I think this implicates at least one newb as the scumteam, probably 2, because why kill bugspray after they VT slipped?--
I have something I'd like to say about it before the phase ends regardless.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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Damn that's a lot of stuff to read. I skimmed it but haven't given it an honest look yet. Pretty sure a JV/unc team is the easy solve that makes the most sense, but ducky said a couple things that ping me and the way he handled the teacher/FF gambit was poor from my understanding. I'll be back in a bit to dig a little deeper but I'm busy IRL for the next few hours.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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sorry guys, not at a pc for the next ~12 hours or so and I can't really dig into the ISOs on my phone. feel free to throw down a rushed vote if you want to lose though fishyIn post 1078, eth0s wrote:Damn that's a lot of stuff to read. I skimmed it but haven't given it an honest look yet. Pretty sure a JV/unc team is the easy solve that makes the most sense, but ducky said a couple things that ping me and the way he handled the teacher/FF gambit was poor from my understanding. I'll be back in a bit to dig a little deeper but I'm busy IRL for the next few hours.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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it kinda looks like JV has been trying to slide by doing scummy things as a newbie. If they're experienced that just strengthens my thoughts there.In post 483, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I've gotIn post 479, Fuzanglong wrote:JacksonVirgo: Can't tell if they're just a more prepared newbie than I am or if they are more experienced idk don't know and don't have opinions on this personsomeexperience under my belt, on another site though.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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JacksonVirgo (SL):
TL;DR: weird wishy washy stances on teacher/FF and Gard. seems to townread ducky when it's convenient (like when "thinking they've been hammered") and then backing off from it later. Rolefishy in retrospect in regards to FF. Definitely could have made the bugspray kill based on being a newb (which is apparently debatable) or to frame FF. I personally don't agree with the framing FF motivation in general but if you read their interactions with him that motivation could explain the NK even if JV isn't as newb as I thought.
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Uncrowned (N/S):
TL;DR: this one is quite a bit shorter but most of his ISO seems like filler. A lot of questions that don't really seem to matter, or he doesn't care to follow up on. A scum motivation from him isn't as clear to me as it is from JV but his votes all seem pretty opportunistic and some of his actions seem hypocritical.
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What? no I'm saying you fit the bill for either of the motivations to kill bugs that have been brought up.In post 1104, JacksonVirgo wrote:
You claim I am experienced therefore scum, then say that I was newb and killed someone which would frame me, very big brained.In post 1101, eth0s wrote: weirdly overly defensive and could point to JV wanting the bugs nk
If newb!scum then simply made the kill because you thought it was a good one.
If experienced!scum then made the kill to frame FF.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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I mean if you're town and just laid down a bad vote in LYLO how is that justified? by that logic another townie could vote me and I would be at L-1 and one of the scum could have siteflaked and won.In post 1107, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Okay, so if I am scum with Uncrowned or Duckyboi, voting you straight up won't do shit because Town won't hammer it without information.In post 1103, eth0s wrote:I mean it's certainly possible. Or you're scum and one of them is your partner.
I understand I haven't been very active at all, and that's my fault but voting me so quickly could lead to an insta lose if you're actually town.
From my pov, you're lock scum and voting you is safe.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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In post 1104, JacksonVirgo wrote: I didn't say shit about knowing they were masons so this falls through once again.
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I'll get to the readlist after my exam in half an hour, but I think there is a possibility that you as a Mason or similar said that to gain reads or the like but then are easily able to confirm otherwise so you're not mislynched. I should probably have elaborated that earlier but oh well.In post 749, teacher wrote:JV, care to join fuzzy on the readslist assignment, and also answer this?
In post 716, teacher wrote:So I’m your mind there is a legit possibility I outted myself as cop (a claim that gets countered in every single setup) with an inno just for the giggles?it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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this is bad AtE. I mean congrats on the IRL stuff but I wasn't attacking you for that. I was attacking your play which is bad and scummy and you're just defending it for some reasoning that I was supposed to know about?In post 1104, JacksonVirgo wrote:
It's called being in exam block, then graduating, then formal. I've been busy so I haven't had full brain power in this game so if you're going to use that as mislynch material, screw off.In post 1101, eth0s wrote: faking thinking that you're hammered and "VT slipping" then acting like you didn't know you just hammered are two things I do as scum. I just don't understand how you can do both of these things and be townit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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The Worst (IS TOWN):
Not a lot to say about Saladman. He seemed like he was trying to solve the game in the short time he was here.
Datisi had a lot of strong arguments, asked a lot of questions, DID a lot with the information gathered. It seems like she clashed a bit with Unc and thought he was scummy. And... wait
Datisi received game compromising information. The PRs are masons there is no game compromising info for a scum to receive there.
Holy shit. Ducky is locktown and I don't have to do his ISOdiveit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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I literally JUST noticed and pointed out that ducky is conftown. you want me to go back and edit my posts. Yeah sorry about your luck but you guys are caught. Nice early vote LOLIn post 1116, JacksonVirgo wrote:Wow, I try and sleep and you drop that.
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that (SL and N/S) was mostly placeholder for me to consider all things, since I had to form the reads on each individual ISO read rather than collectively when I was finished. Because you voted me and put me on a timer. But I already felt good about ducky overall and seeing that with datisi made me realize you and Unc literally have to be the team.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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Like you're throwing down quickvotes in LYLO acting like we don't have time when we have 85 hours left and then attacking me for making reads that weren't straight scumreads when I wasn't even able to assess all slots before labeling them? It's a clear last-ditch scum effort.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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You knew my ISOdive on you was coming, and while it may seem underwhelming (I acknowledge my overall play here has been subpar as I haven't been able to dedicate much time the last week or so) I think you were afraid of what was coming and threw that vote down to try and be first and be confident.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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The difference is that I am pointing out that I'm aware of it before I get dogged on for it, whereas you assumed that I was supposed to know about all of your IRL things and take them into account when I called your actions scummy. I'm not using it as a defense, in fact it doesn't even matter at all except personal context. Because my point is that the product was potentially underwhelming, but you didn't know that when you voted me.In post 1124, JacksonVirgo wrote:Can't sleep lol
You call bs on my AtE or whatever yet you do the same, noice.In post 1123, eth0s wrote:(I acknowledge my overall play here has been subpar as I haven't been able to dedicate much time the last week or so)
In addition, I am confident I've solved the game
You just voted me because you knew I was about to scumcase you because I accidentally submitted a piece early. It's pretty fkin obvious.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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like why would I have to fake any confidence whenever I just realized the person that quickvoted me in LYLO is CONFIRMED SCUM?!
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you gave me the reasoning AFTER the fact. Like you said that I was attacking your play knowing that your personal life had been crazy when I did not know that. There's a difference here you're seeming to intentionally overlook.In post 1128, JacksonVirgo wrote:
You were using the fact that I was missing some details and was 'faking' the hammer test or whatever when I've literally been rush reading because of how busy I've been and I say this and you call it an shitty scum AtE attempt and as soon as you give a reason for not being active often and I call that out (like you called me out), I am just wrong. Seriously?In post 1125, eth0s wrote:
The difference is that I am pointing out that I'm aware of it before I get dogged on for it, whereas you assumed that I was supposed to know about all of your IRL things and take them into account when I called your actions scummy. I'm not using it as a defense, in fact it doesn't even matter at all except personal context. Because my point is that the product was potentially underwhelming, but you didn't know that when you voted me.In post 1124, JacksonVirgo wrote:Can't sleep lol
You call bs on my AtE or whatever yet you do the same, noice.In post 1123, eth0s wrote:(I acknowledge my overall play here has been subpar as I haven't been able to dedicate much time the last week or so)
In addition, I am confident I've solved the game
You just voted me because you knew I was about to scumcase you because I accidentally submitted a piece early. It's pretty fkin obvious.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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look. bottom line. I attacked your SCUMMY PLAY. if you are going to use IRL as a defense for scummy play then that's on you. But I didn't say anything about your lack of activity or anything like that. I stated that your fake reaction to the fakehammer and faking not knowing that you hammered is something I would do as scum. That has nothing to do with your personal life and you're implying any bad play by you should be covered by that and that's something I should consciously take into consideration before questioning any of your play. That's why it's bad.In post 1131, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I believe I've said it multiple times that I will likely not be able to post because of graduation and everything, so if you were reading my ISO properly you would have seen thatIn post 1130, eth0s wrote:like why would I have to fake any confidence whenever I just realized the person that quickvoted me in LYLO is CONFIRMED SCUM?!
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you gave me the reasoning AFTER the fact. Like you said that I was attacking your play knowing that your personal life had been crazy when I did not know that. There's a difference here you're seeming to intentionally overlook.In post 1128, JacksonVirgo wrote:
You were using the fact that I was missing some details and was 'faking' the hammer test or whatever when I've literally been rush reading because of how busy I've been and I say this and you call it an shitty scum AtE attempt and as soon as you give a reason for not being active often and I call that out (like you called me out), I am just wrong. Seriously?In post 1125, eth0s wrote:
The difference is that I am pointing out that I'm aware of it before I get dogged on for it, whereas you assumed that I was supposed to know about all of your IRL things and take them into account when I called your actions scummy. I'm not using it as a defense, in fact it doesn't even matter at all except personal context. Because my point is that the product was potentially underwhelming, but you didn't know that when you voted me.In post 1124, JacksonVirgo wrote:Can't sleep lol
You call bs on my AtE or whatever yet you do the same, noice.In post 1123, eth0s wrote:(I acknowledge my overall play here has been subpar as I haven't been able to dedicate much time the last week or so)
In addition, I am confident I've solved the game
You just voted me because you knew I was about to scumcase you because I accidentally submitted a piece early. It's pretty fkin obvious.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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I pointed it out but that's only because you didnt seem like a newbie and I thought it would help you. Ducky was thinking it too though.In post 1316, Uncrowned wrote:Gardenia was doing a great job and had practically no heat on her, a shame she had to replace out. Eth0s did well given his position tho, especially since I messed up that N1 kill bad. Whoever originally pointed out that a newb made that kill was entirely correct lmao
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Oh true I forgot teacher caught it firstIn post 1319, the worst wrote:teacher then eth0s but i kinda immediately knew as soon as i saw it that it came from a newbie scumteamit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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Micro queue, like most queues, doesnt have defined setup possibilities (I think newbie is the only one that just uses one setup type). I prefer micro because of the player size which is generally close to newbie size. But there's tons of available setups to play depending on what is open for signups.In post 1328, Uncrowned wrote:
Micro is sorta similar to this setup, yeah?In post 1317, eth0s wrote:
I pointed it out but that's only because you didnt seem like a newbie and I thought it would help you. Ducky was thinking it too though.In post 1316, Uncrowned wrote:Gardenia was doing a great job and had practically no heat on her, a shame she had to replace out. Eth0s did well given his position tho, especially since I messed up that N1 kill bad. Whoever originally pointed out that a newb made that kill was entirely correct lmao
I really like the micro game queue
I was thinking of trying my hand at one of those bigger setups with a bunch more players but maaannn after seeing the stress this setup caused I'd probably cry being a townie and having to sort more players.
There's games in micro quite like this one, games with jesters, arsonists, trees, you name it. I think looking at all the queues and seeing what is currently in signups is your best bet for finding something new.
Micc, our mod from this game, is actually the listmod for micro games. So if you look at his recent posts in the micro queue you can see what is in signups for micro gamesit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)- eth0s
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Ducky, it was definitely a rough lylo to be stuck in in your position. I'm wondering if you had a main underlying reason for your vote? Like what would you consider the tipping point or best piece of evidence to lynch JV? In retrospect can you unbiasedly give the same reason to choose uncrowned instead?
I'm only asking because I hate being in the position you were in and your thought process is usually quite clear and I want pointers lolit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
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