Perfect Masquerade [Game Over]

[Gentleman 6]

I think Lady 8 seems really cute, I'm not sure what it says about her alignment.

[Gentleman 6]

It seems initially scummy and lessens your chances of getting asked to the dance because it seems like you're afraid of engaging in a read of a player.

Why does a joke suggest that she's afraid of making a read?

The question isn't directed at me, but I want to point out that it seems to me like Lady 5 is specifically avoiding making non-joke posts. She's ignored my more serious posts twice now. Joking is fine but she doesn't have any non-jokey content yet.

I interpret that apathy as townie. I think that scum care a lot more about getting town read than town do right now.

[Gentleman 6]

I agree that town carry playstyles will also want to show themselves to be town quickly.

But I don't think that avoiding serious talk in the early game when prompted to is a scumtell and I would lean it and Lady 5 the other way.

[Gentleman 6]

I want no part of a version of the game where certain player types dictate pairings and no one else actually plays mafia.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm confused as to why you townread Lady 4 because I think she's been the only person I outright scumread so far.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm confused as to why you townread Lady 4 because I think she's been the only person I outright scumread so far.

I mean I think she made it pretty clear why...

Do you expect that everyone else ought to be reading people's posts the same way you do?

The reasoning she gave was pretty vague and I think I'm justified in asking her to follow up on it. Do you think that I'm not?

[Gentleman 6]

I don't think "how she's approaching her read on her" is pretty clear at all. And even if it was more clear than it was, I'm not sure what the point of this question is?

[Gentleman 6]

Like, that Lady 5 read looks a lot like the kind of townread a scum gives a townie in the early game. I think it's too early to give as much as they did about it and the reasons they gave essentially say nothing about the posts and are easy to say as scum.

[Gentleman 6]

I think it's too early to give as much as they did about it and the reasons they gave essentially say nothing

Which is it?

You both made a bunch of posts about it and all you said about it was that "you buy them as genuinely at ease posts" and "the tonal slip speaks of someone whose not overthinking their posts".
Both claims are essentially unfalsifiable, essentially meaningless, and they're the kind of thing that scum use often when giving townreads to town in the early game because they sound good.

[Gentleman 6]

I only take this much issue with gut reads when I think that they're scummy and I think that there's a certain kind of defensiveness in your response to me that makes me think that you're even more scummy.

I think reads off tone are a more player-specific thing than AI thing. It's the way they arrive at that read that's AI.

In this case, Lady 4 came into a game state where most people were skeptical about Lady 5, and that kind of going-against-consensus even though the player clearly cares about being conciliatory strikes me a more likely townie read.

This is, like, an extremely common thing for scum to do?

[Gentleman 6]

If anything, I would say that having a random townread on a player who hasn't really done much and who general consensus points to being below average is a scumtell for that player.
I say that even though I also townread that player, but I wouldn't really be able to put a lot of words to it and I certainly wouldn't give those specific words. I'd just say meh I think that they're town.

[Gentleman 6]

Man, you're the only other person in this game that I was considering a scumread on and you're sitting here nitpicking the shit out of my scumread on Lady 4.

[Gentleman 6]

Both claims are essentially unfalsifiable, essentially meaningless

Nothing's falsifiable except by flips...?

And no. There's plenty of cases that are falsifiable. You can say that someone pushed a bunch of town, that someone took a bunch of stances no one took before, whatever.
I would even take Lady 4 simply saying that it was a gut townread as better because I also had a gut townread there. It's the fact that they felt the need to go beyond saying that but to still say nothing that bothers me.

[Gentleman 6]

And then their only scumread is Lady 7, who just so happens to be the only other person who called them out earlier in the game.

[Gentleman 6]

Did you just complain that I had a read too early, and now I don't have enough reads for you?

I don't love Lady 3 either, I just didn't see any reason to mention it.

This isn't at all what I complained about.

I even had the exact same townread on Lady 5 that you did. What I had an issue with was how you presented that read to everyone, you took several posts to do it and never said anything about it.
I would have interpreted it in a townier way if you had either said you had a gut townread there or if you had said something with more substance, but I felt you gave a completely empty answer.

And regarding Lady 7, it's not the fact that it's your only scumread that's the problem it's that you're going after the person who called you out earlier.
The fact that I'm facing a ton of resistance on this scumread, a major part of it from the slot that I thought was second most likely to be scum, doesn't help my feelings on it either.

[Gentleman 6]

I don't think that you need post by post progression on reads that you have before a game reaches page 9.

Regarding 203, fine. I'll go do something else.

[Gentleman 6]

I wouldn't care so much at this stage of the game but L9 is shaping up to be de facto town leader and she's townreading my early scumreads and that makes me sad.
I also think that the misrep on me to "having reads too early" is super, super scummy.

But I will go do other things.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm not a town leader type.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm not a town leader type.

Okay I’ll be town leader and u can be my assistant

You shall be our fearsome, intimidating town leader.

All hail Gentleman four!

[Gentleman 6]

Also, I think that townreading Gentleman 2 just for the IC post is bad play. I don't think it's alignment indicative that they didn't check which player the IC was.

[Gentleman 6]

Mostly I want to know how L4 reads G6.

I'm unsure. I was tempted to scumread him a few times, but I see some glimmers of genuine thought that I happen to disagree with.

I really don't think this slot is town.

[Gentleman 6]

I didn't until that post, then I started to like it.

[Gentleman 6]

Sigh. I feel guilty for scumreading L4 now.

[Gentleman 6]

I don't know if her reaction was necessarily scummy. Maybe I was wrong there.

[Gentleman 6]

F

[Gentleman 6]

I like L7.

[Gentleman 6]

Lady 9 was formerly a deepwolf but is a deepwolf no more F

[Gentleman 6]

Oh. Lady 9 wasn't Dannflor.

[Gentleman 6]

I suppose I shouldn't really be discussing that.

[Gentleman 6]

I wouldn't bring it up if I wasn't considering asking L9 but I wasn't going to do that if they were getting replaced because I wouldn't know if I thought I was going to get along with the new slot holder.

[Gentleman 6]

Why are people listening to you and not me?

I am town reading G3 and L9.

That's it.

However I am thinking I should match with scum.

Who is 'you'?

[Gentleman 6]

Oh god.

[Gentleman 6]

Please don't read L4 off of my read on them, I'm not actually sure they're scum anymore.

[Gentleman 6]

Please don't read L4 off of my read on them, I'm not actually sure they're scum anymore.

...was there a time when you were sure she was scum?

This is an incredibly bad question.

[Gentleman 6]

No, I was never 100% sure they were scum. There was a time that I was rather confidently scumreading them. I am no longer sure what my read on them is. Does that post really need to be asked?

Why are you repeatedly going after me forcing me to clarify things that really don't need any sort of clarification?

[Gentleman 6]

I'm scumreading Gentleman 3, though.

[Gentleman 6]

I have a confident meta townread on Gentleman 8 as well.

[Gentleman 6]

You act like I'm the first person on MafiaScum to say that I'm no longer sure if someone is scum or not without an investigative result. It's not uncommon to use this phrasing without literally thinking someone is for sure, beyond reconsideration, scum.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm a watt?

[Gentleman 6]

"I'm no longer sure if this person is scum or not."

You're claiming that you rarely see people saying that?

[Gentleman 6]

I do think the line of questioning is useful because G3 has done a ton of active lurking and all their game related questioning has felt off and hasn't really made sense. I think that they are asking questions to look like they are being useful to town and solvey but that the questions aren't going anywhere.

[Gentleman 6]

G4, do you disagree with me that that is rather common phrasing?

[Gentleman 6]

What if that mindset is scum?

[Gentleman 6]

I wouldn't say that I'm going pitbulll at all.

I'm just... asking him to clarify his stance?

[Gentleman 6]

I have a confident meta townread on Gentleman 8 as well.

Gentleman 8 hasn't even posted.

was this ever addressed?

Confident meta townread in an anon game...

[Gentleman 6]

It sort of ruins the masquerade when I have confident alt guesses on over half the list.

[Gentleman 6]

Lady Cuteness Hierarchy

9 = 8 > 3 = 7 > 4 > 1 > 2

[Gentleman 6]

I'm sorry.

[Gentleman 6]

Lady 6 hasn't posted yet, Lady 5 was too long ago and I don't remember.

[Gentleman 6]

Just who we need to see... Star Wolf.

[Gentleman 6]

Would it be a spicy and original read if I said that L1 is very probably town?

[Gentleman 6]

Nevermind on L1 I'm not sure what I thought I saw.

I think all of my townreads are converging towards L9s.

[Gentleman 6]

I actually vastly prefer having known that Chennis was replaced so I can play around it rather than having no idea what slot Dannflor was representing that then shifted.

[Gentleman 6]

Gent 6 are you thinking of pairing with Lady 8?

May I ask why you're asking this question?

[Gentleman 6]

Cuteness hierarchy is my preferred pairings list.

Circumstances of your reads on each other are curious

Go on?

[Gentleman 6]

But like that's in a vacuum

I think that if the other pairings go a way that I like I would want L9 above anyone else, if I feel like there's an absence of clear TvT pairings I would rather not pair with L9 so that a kill on both of us isn't too damaging.

[Gentleman 6]

I get what you would be seeing in those

But I think it just happened this way tbh

[Gentleman 6]

Now that Lady 5 has actually started posting game related comments I don't like then overly much, both in terms of I don't agree with their reads and don't understand where they're coming from. For example they said that they like the way Gentleman 3 thinks but I can't find any real solvey posts from them and a lot of following up on tangents so I'm kinda questioning where that comes from.

I'm unsure on G1 so far. I'll try to read it again but their entrance didn't really make too but of an impression on me last night.

I'm very torn on Lady 4. They have posts that ping me town and posts that ping me scum. I'm undecided on them so far.

I think that the majority of G4s shtick is NAI but I'm leaning town on them anyway.

Still think that L8 is very towny, I feel kind of guilty about the fact that they only want to pair with me and I'm torn between them and 9 but those two are my definite townreads among the girls and probably who I'd want to pair with if they weren't, so.

I had one other big townread but MS is awful right now and I don't want to deal with five minute page loads trying to remember who they are, so I'm just not going to bother.

I'm strongly opposed to G2 trying to pair with scum and play town hero

[Gentleman 6]

MS got better while I was still around so I am going to do a little bit more before I have to go.

[Gentleman 6]

Lady 3 was my other tentative townread, given that I'm also tentatively townreading G4 I think that I'm fine with that pairing in general.

Still townreading L9. Not going to bother saying more?

Would greatly appreciate it if new G5, L6, etc., came in and played since I am starting to feel like we'll win with just a few more townreads.

[Gentleman 6]

L9, interested in your thoughts especially on all my reads and on how to pair.

[Gentleman 6]

Also interested in some actual reads from you L1, I feel like most of what you did in your entrance was mechanics talk or fluff.

[Gentleman 6]

If you don't trust me, why do you want me paired with a universal townread?

[Gentleman 6]

Townreading G7 now I think.

I'm still not enthusiastic about L9 being paired with G2.

and not only because I want her for myself.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm going to say something that might sound strange, but

I think that there is at most 1 scum gentleman and possibly 0 with 2 scum ladies, possibly 3.

[Gentleman 6]

Sorry to any of my other suitors who might be hurt by this

Lady 9, will you dance with me?

[Gentleman 6]

I would actually have asked to be your partner if we were opposite gendered.

I'm not sure who I would suggest you pair with right now but I'll give you an answer tomorrow or Thursday.

I stand by thinking that there's a ton of obvtown gentlemen.

[Gentleman 6]

To be honest I want to pair with L9 for reasons that aren't really related to mathematically optimizing the setup. I think it's probably a suboptimal pairing, but I don't really care.

[Gentleman 6]

It's not that either, really.

[Gentleman 6]

I shall pour one out for our lost town leader.

[Gentleman 6]

I bet

If I could choose the lady that got left out it'd hit scum.

[Gentleman 6]

I bet

If I could choose the lady that got left out it'd hit scum.

It would mean very little even if you did.

Mean very little in terms of...?

[Gentleman 6]

I'm curious as to why you bring that up?

You don't seem to be going out of your way to pick at anyone else.

[Gentleman 6]

What changed?

[Gentleman 6]

I guess I'll be honest.

Truth is I'm not entirely sure that she's town and I think that if she is I'll be 100% sure to see it In a hood and if she's not I think I'll see it as well.

[Gentleman 6]

Has to do with my G6 read, which is my strongest read in the game right now and I do not want to talk about it in public until I have litmus'd it with someone.

Is it that I'm actually scum or something?

[Gentleman 6]

Eh if I'm outing that I might as well out both of my reads.
I think that L7-L9 associatives look extremely likely to be SvS.
I think that L7 independently is the scummiest slot in the game right now.

Given that these are very unpopular reads my goal was to simply let town do what they want for a while and if we don't end up flipping scum to leave the dance with 9 and an explanation why later.

[Gentleman 6]

And that's also why I was opposed to you pairing with 9.

Figured I'd just get shot if I paired with a universally townread player and no one would really question why the IC didn't die.

[Gentleman 6]

Like I think G1 is probably town.
You're town.
G3 maybe still scum but I don't really think so.
Fire (G4) was town.
G5 uncertain
G6 me!
G7 town.
G8 hasn't posted enough.

That's a lot of gentleman townreads that I got so I kinda think that pairings aren't all that big of a deal because scum are the womenfolk.

If I'm right, which I may not be.

[Gentleman 6]

And that's also why I was opposed to you pairing with 9.

Figured I'd just get shot if I paired with a universally townread player and no one would really question why the IC didn't die.

EVERYONE will question if I didn't die.

I respectfully disagree

I think that as an example if I died with L9

Not a single person would make a single post asking why that kill happened over your pairing.

[Gentleman 6]

I wasn't actually that sure of it. Mostly planned to read 9 in hood and if she was town I was just gonna vote her scumreads and not much else.

[Gentleman 6]

Like my reads have honestly been a roller coaster this game.

[Gentleman 6]

Because I was mulling over pairing with 9, having you pair with 2, and seeing if some totally random slot got killed.

[Gentleman 6]

Please don't think this was this super sure read
It was just the reason I wanted L9 specifically
I wasn't going to go after her and I do think that we'll be an effective town team

I just like have been having trouble finding and sticking with scumreads

[Gentleman 6]

Like I really wanted someone who I could either sheep or suicide on.

[Gentleman 6]

Sigh.

[Gentleman 6]

I need that crying in the rain avatar Dannflor used to use.

[Gentleman 6]

I said this was all very suboptimal

[Gentleman 6]

It's mostly just the way it felt like you kept hedging on calling her town, which I guess isn't the best reason because I'm also hesitant on calling her town. Also her interactions with L4. But yeah I don't really know what I'm doing I've just been doing things and that's why I said I didn't wanna be town leader or anything close to it.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm actually townreading your posts now if it helps.

[Gentleman 6]

I mean that's very little of the reason that I townread you.

I'm still happy with 5 being removed, even if she's town her contributions are... limited.

[Gentleman 6]

The lacking usernames is really not helping either.

I feel like everyone gets jumbled.

[Gentleman 6]

I wouldn't mind dancing with 7. I think she's town.

[Gentleman 6]

I'll go with 2 if you go with 7.

[Gentleman 6]

If 9 is town I think her dying with the IC is not good.

[Gentleman 6]

L5 is the mafia equivalent of someone telling their friends they need to get together because one's a Libra and one's a Saggitarius.

[Gentleman 6]

I don't understand why you're townreading L4. I think that they're scum more of the time than they're town, and I'm scared that if I'm right and you already don't see it you won't see it later in the game.

[Gentleman 6]

But eh, go for it.

[Gentleman 6]

That's really untrue, your slot more than any other slot in the game wants to be paired with a town lady.

[Gentleman 6]

I realize that you're really excited about the possibility of pairing with scum to try to live and solo carry the game or something, but I don't really think that's a great approach to the game.

[Gentleman 6]

Hmmmm

[Gentleman 6]

Oh yeah I forgot that I started townreading you.

[Gentleman 6]

Actually I kinda ship G2/L4. lol.

[Gentleman 6]

But I am possibly the best person to have with scum simply because I don't get to end game, in ANY circumstance, because even with no scum lynches and a NK off me, we still have a misslynch available.

I mean.

If you are town and paired with town and scum went for, for example, a G6/L9 pairing first, we would want to bring you to endgame.

I don't think there's any sort of rule that says you may not go to endgame.

[Gentleman 6]

How do we know if you're paired with scum though?
Just because you don't get nightkilled as a pairing, doesn't mean that you're paired with scums.

[Gentleman 6]

If that's your personal rule, then you shouldn't be pairing with townreads.

[Gentleman 6]

Maybe I should just go for the lady who seems most likely to put out after the dance.

[Gentleman 6]

That was of course a joke, I am in fact a gentleman.

[Gentleman 6]

I think that L5 is a good remove.

[Gentleman 6]

I don't. 1 and 6 are either going to start posting or get replaced. 5's posting gives me a headache and I think they're above average scum equity.

[Gentleman 6]

I am referring to Lady 5.

[Gentleman 6]

I see literally no reason to and unless something drastically changes from now to then she would be the slot I'd end up pushing to kill tomorrow.

[Gentleman 6]

The way you're defending her makes me want her dead more and you next if she's scum.

[Gentleman 6]

As my counterpart in 6iness, I will talk to you.

[Gentleman 6]

The way you're defending her makes me want her dead more and you next if she's scum.

This feels overly hostile. Most slots are town and can have real life interfere.

I think you're interpreting this the opposite way that it is: I'm defending the lurker slots and saying to lynch a slot that has actually posted scummy content.

[Gentleman 6]

2 got paired up with 9 whom I am not sure is town

1 I am leaning but not concrete that they are town.
3 is up in the air.
4 I think is town but want to see more from the replacement.
5 I'm not liking.
6 is town!
7 I think is town.
8 I don't remember.

[Gentleman 6]

Who should I be dancing with? :V

[Gentleman 6]

Anyone still around?

[Gentleman 6]

Those are my gentlemen reads, not lady reads.

I still think you're town but you're not active enough to be a good pair for me right now.

[Gentleman 6]

Is this a town-slip? All of dance games have been 1:2 or 2:1 for scum ratios.

How would this be a townslip?

[Gentleman 6]

There's some sort of stanford prison guard experiment thing going on where alot of the gentlemen are in their roles as douchey guys at a club.

[Gentleman 6]

I do feel like G2 is roleplaying as such ironically, I do wish people respected the fact that L4 isn't enjoying the shtick and stopped it.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm at the point where I'm deciding between Lady 7 and Lady 4 off of a purely activity basis because I want someone I can interact meaningfully with in our dance pairing.

The choice there is between taking the slot that I'm more confidently townreading and sitting or getting nightkilled on a known T-T pairing, or taking the uncertain one and potentially via the hood sorting my partner and getting a T-T pairing where we wouldn't have had one. Or removing my partner from the dance, hopefully correctly.

Is it that big a deal?

I don't see why I'd want to enable someone's experience being worse if I didn't feel like it was necessary to win the game.

[Gentleman 6]

I scoped out all of the players because I was interested in what people were doing. You can still find profiles even if someone hasn't posted, using the member list. Lady 6 does not have an avatar.

This seems like a nothing question. I mean if you're interested in how to view their profiles sure, but sounded like you were trying to get a read off my method somehow.

It's pretty intense to go from scoping the profile pictures before the game to lurking. I think that this might be scum for that reason.
Like, they were super keen on the game but then they got a scum role PM and weren't enthusiastic about it.

[Gentleman 6]

Only scum!Tammy makes 935 by the way. Speedlynch her.

[Gentleman 6]

Ladies 4 and 7

Why should I choose you over the other lady?

[Gentleman 6]

why?

[Gentleman 6]

Why is skitter factually town when she hasn't posted all game

[Gentleman 6]

Why is Lady 1 factually town*

[Gentleman 6]

Explain?

[Gentleman 6]

What do you question my motives for? Sorry if you've felt neglected, I've been kinda sitting on a lot of stuff waiting to have a partner to go over it with.

[Gentleman 6]

G4, which ladies are you looking at?

[Gentleman 6]

You're not an improvement isn't the same as shitting on you if she liked the first person...

[Gentleman 6]

Can you give this shtick a rest?

[Gentleman 6]

I'm kind of awed right now.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm also okay with 6 sitting by the way.

[Gentleman 6]

8, I wish you were doing more.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm scared that if I dance with someone like 8, even if they're town, if they're low effort/investment into the game I won't really get challenged in any meaningful way and I'll lose that benefit.

[Gentleman 6]

Whatever disregard correct play dance with the hottest girl.

Lady 8, will you dance with me?

[Gentleman 6]

I'm not actually sure what correct play here is, or if that's it or not. But 7 doesn't seem interested in pairing with me and I don't actually think 4 is a very good pairing.

[Gentleman 6]

I just realized

You only need 4 town to win the game

[Gentleman 6]

Nvm I was dum

[Gentleman 6]

L7, if you're town who is scared that I'm being redirected to scum there's an obvious solution to the situation.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm actually kind of uncomfortable with Lady 7 taking a potshot at the Lady 8 pairing and not offering herself instead?

[Gentleman 6]

Oh I just realized who L3 is.

[Gentleman 6]

Oh I just realized who L3 is.

[Gentleman 6]

How was that a potshot

Felt like setting up for a later game push on our pairing + if I'm the towniest gent why is she more amenable to me pairing with scum than her still. But eh. Maybe I'm just hurt by the rejection

[Gentleman 6]

Everything that 6 posts feels like scumposting.

[Gentleman 6]

Actually, I dunno if L6 is scum.

[Gentleman 6]

uh...

[Gentleman 6]

this is even dumber than the new ic's entrance.

[Gentleman 6]

Solely on account of the fact that they haven't posted since I invited them, I'm kinda regretting asking L8.

[Gentleman 6]

I mean, I could always just ask someone else whose present. I'm just a little put out about this whole asking phase.

[Gentleman 6]

I think that they're well above average likelihood of being town, I'm not completely sure that they're town. I think that I'll be able to sort them if they're actually present, but idk if they're going to be.

Yeah, I know, I know.

[Gentleman 6]

You had a choice, you just made the wrong one rejecting me >=[

[Gentleman 6]

I will forever remember this as the mafia game where Lady 9 was stolen away by the IC and Lady 7 rejected me and broke my heart.

[Gentleman 6]

I don't think your lady 1 townread is justified.

[Gentleman 6]

lol

[Gentleman 6]

lol

[Gentleman 6]

L1 and L5 are good removes for opposite spectrum reasons.

[Gentleman 6]

Am I ethically required to pretend that I don't know that having really bad takes isn't a scumtell for L6?

[Gentleman 6]

I have no idea who you are!

[Gentleman 6]

I suppose I should say this just in case

I chose the name Tammy as an arbitrary name that I didn't expect to be in the game.

I have quite a few confident guesses, your slot is not one.

[Gentleman 6]

Am I ethically required to pretend that I don't know that having really bad takes isn't a scumtell for L6?

so you wanna hear something fun? The last alt game I played at my homesite rip every single person decided they knew at least one other person's alt and gave them a meta town read. Some of them were wrong about their alt guess. A couple were wrong about the meta they decided on.

Like i realize you think you know half the people here, you think you know who I am, which if you really knew anything about me you'd not call me out for the crap you have, but even so this is an alt game. I don't know anyone here and due to above I don't trust whatever little things you think you know about someone else. But again even so this is an alt game. Kindly act like it.

(I'm sorry if this is harsh I've had a couple to drink, and I'm a little annoyed that you tried to make me feel guilty.)

I like you particularly the last paragraph. The narrative building isn't wrong. I build narratives to see if my reads make sense.

Gentleman 6, I feel the same way about you. I think quite a few people are mistaking early volume for towniness. Towniness includes both trying to lynch scum and unify town. The sad thing is I feel pretty resigned to a toen mislynch here. Likely mine because people value their perceptions over blunt accurate discussion.

I don't scumread you but I think that your reads are wildly off base.

[Gentleman 6]

And uh, making you feel guilty for 'rejecting' me was a joke. I don't actually care. I think it's probably AI though.

[Gentleman 6]

I'm townreading L6 atm and I think that I would regardless of my alt guess. I don't think the entrance was actually scummy.

[Gentleman 6]

.....?

how would that be trying to get you force replaced...

[Gentleman 6]

I mean, I considered getting myself force replaced after reading some of the stuff that G2 posted but.

[Gentleman 6]

I acknowledge that I haven't really been playing to the spirit of the alt game. I have a PT with a bunch of lists of alt guesses and relevant meta considerations. Perhaps that's a bad way to play the game.

[Gentleman 6]

I think G5 is probably town but has higher likelihood to be snowing town than other slots.

[Gentleman 6]

I think G3 and L6 should pair.

[Gentleman 6]

hrm

I think you should ask 6.

[Gentleman 6]

L9! What do you think about L6?

[Gentleman 6]

I think that L6 is one of my top townreads. Do you think that's hasty?

[Gentleman 6]

Why do you scumread L6?

[Gentleman 6]

Shrug. I won't keep shoving it down anyone's throats any further but I strongly believe both G3 and L6 are town and think they'd be a decent match.

[Gentleman 6]

it doesn't help that g6 is like ohhhhhhh get g3 and l6 together and i don't trust his motives.

you don't trust my motives?

[Gentleman 6]

I shouldn't have signed up as a gentleman honestly, if I play again I won't.

I don't see what the rush is?

Are you actually female?

Bad question.

[Gentleman 6]

I shouldn't have signed up as a gentleman honestly, if I play again I won't.

I don't see what the rush is?

Are you actually female?

Bad question.

[Gentleman 6]

It would be hard to overstate just how not a fan I am of Lady 7's recent posting.

[Gentleman 6]

I kinda get the impression that town's running away with townreads and she's playing fixer and pushing down slots that would otherwise eventually PoE out scum.

[Gentleman 6]

Sort of the same logic behind what I was thinking with her not wanting to pair with me, but wanting to shade the slot that I'm paired with to set up for my lynch later.
I dunno. Both tonally and in terms of the actual reads/developments here, feels disingenuous.

[Gentleman 6]

Sorry Gent 6 but Lady 8 was a bad pair

Her posting's still town. I'm unhappy about the fact that I'm going to have a partner who won't post much, but she's not scum.

Are you chainsaw defending 7?

[Gentleman 6]

That's a weird way to respond.

[Gentleman 6]

That pairing has deepwolf potential (ie, isn't an endgame pairing) but also isn't an immediate lynch contender.

[Gentleman 6]

Also, I feel like throughout the game 7 has been super reluctant to give out townreads. She heavily qualified her Lady 9 townread in the earliest part of the game, her only real townread was me (universal to the point of being pointless to against), and she has since in recent pages gone against both her townreads on myself and Lady 9. Dunno.

Amusingly, I said that I wanted L4 and L7 with one as confident TR and the other as a slot that I wanted to sort via hood, but I lied about which was which. I didn't want to pair with L4 regardless for /reasons/.

What’s your read on them individually?

Lady 4 is heavily leaning town.
Gentleman 5 is really pro-town but idk. There's moments that I don't like that really stand out. Kinda just a feeling thing, that I don't trust the townreads there. Not like immediately going after them.

[Gentleman 6]

Man.

You reluctantly agreed that L9 was above average then immediately called her scum recently.
You had me as your ONLY TOWNREAD in the early game, and not only did you say that you "don't trust my motives" on like the last page but you were already setting up to push on L8 before I even paired with her.
G3 is also townread by a pretty decent number of other people, and you're shading them.
L6 got townread by about 5 different people after their entrance, and you're calling them scum.

I don't buy your shtick. I think that if you had the most townread gentleman slot pairing with someone you didn't like you'd be like dear god dance with me instead.
You have been incredibly stingy about townreading people in a game where scum lose the game if enough universal townreads come up to force them out of the game, and you've already set up to push on both my pairing and the IC's pairing. If you're not scum it's an incredible coincidence that you're literally incapable of townreading anyone in a game where I'm running out of slots to call potential scum.

[Gentleman 6]

You even had that post where you said that you were going to ignore all my meta townreads because I could be wrong about identities and used it to ignore a townread that wasn't even meta based lol.

[Gentleman 6]

That doesn't answer my point. Unless you're implying that I'm scum and that I have to be scum to come up with townreads in this game.

[Gentleman 6]

Gent 6 you kinda offered lady 8 as a surprise to me personally

This is what you want to talk about right now?

[Gentleman 6]

That's some oversimplification.

[Gentleman 6]

Actually I don't think the fact that she scumreads L8 even came up as a reason that I'm scumreading L7.

So it's not just an oversimplification, it's a blatant misrepresentation.

[Gentleman 6]

So like, you're either not reading what I'm posting, or you're deliberately misrepresenting it. Regardless, it makes me wonder how valid your townreads such as on L1 are if even if you're town you read this thoughtlessly.

[Gentleman 6]

So like, you're either not reading what I'm posting, or you're deliberately misrepresenting it. Regardless, it makes me wonder how valid your townreads such as on L1 are if even if you're town you read this thoughtlessly.

[Gentleman 6]

I think that you're scum or wrong and there's no way in hell that I am letting L7 outlive me.

[Gentleman 6]

I think she should be left partnerless tbh but since that's too untenable I just want to kill before the end of the first dance.

[Gentleman 6]

she's been a shifty girl.

this is like trump calling that reporter a "nasty woman" level questionable. What exactly does this mean?

[Gentleman 6]

"her play is political" - She came in with a unique scumread on you and hasn't overlapped on tons of common reads, so no.
"trying to pocket people" - How is she any more trying to pocket people than anyone else?
"acceptance of dance request is survivalistic play" - what? Are you saying she was supposed to decline?

[Gentleman 6]

"WEIRDLY TOWNREADING ME" when almost every girl in the game said that I was the only gent they were townreading me?

[Gentleman 6]

In post 430, Lady 8 wrote:
The only Gentleman I'd accept at this point is the Doctor aka Gentleman 6. All the other gentlemen have been lack luster, even Gentleman 2, the IC.

In post 430, Lady 8 wrote:The only Gentleman I'd accept at this point is the Doctor aka Gentleman 6. All the other gentlemen have been lack luster, even Gentleman 2, the IC.

Multiple people posted literally that exact same thing. Why are you singling Lady 6 out?

What? That's pretty reasonable reasoning?