Perfect Masquerade [Game Over]

[Lady 1]

Oh god two slips already :/

Am I the last one to arrive? My thoughts so far are that consensus townreads are probably the way to go, then ideally we can form pairs from within that group first. That way we have a better chance of crowding out scum into non optimal pairings with each other and with town who are harder to identify. Better than if we tried to just pick scum out individually, or all decide on pairings individually.

I've skimmed the game on mobile but the text is too small for me to actually read people's usernames easily which is a bit of a problem. So while I reread can everyone please give a list of your strongest townreads? It helps to have them in a list instead of scattered across pages.

[Lady 1]

It's partially because I think the atmosphere of people focusing on their townreads is most pleasant, and most likely to make us win so while I don't have much to say on my own reads I think it's helpful to guide things in that direction before people start yolo pairing. There's already been one proposal that I saw.

Am I the last one to arrive?

Not quite, we're still waiting on Lady 6 and Gents 1 and 8.

Oh ok, sweet.

The gents are both keen beans I think, they both had avatars pretty early.

[Lady 1]

Add lady 1 to the list of wood.

uh what

do you want me to write more casually or

[Lady 1]

Add lady 1 to the list of wood.

uh what

do you want me to write more casually or

No! I want you to do you.

Aww, how sweet. Ok then, so what are your townreads, and do you think a strategy of pairing first within consensus townreads is a good idea?

[Lady 1]

Thanks, though some people are sweet regardless of their alignment.

In any case right now I care far less about who's scum than who's town. If we can figure out a bunch of townies and pair them together, the game is pretty much won right?

[Lady 1]

Why are people listening to you and not me?

I am town reading G3 and L9.

That's it.

However I am thinking I should match with scum.

Who is 'you'?

L1. I've been asking for town reads from people for pages.

We can both do it and it might be twice as effective! I'm on a computer now btw so I'll be able to actually contribute to that shortly.

I don't think you should match with scum. Someone already said it - if you match with scum and don't get shot, then we have you running round with a scum lover which we'll have to deal with later (because if we're trying to preserve the IC now, we might also be trying to preserve you later when you're attached to scum) and in the meantime scum shot a high value target of two townies. That doesn't help us a lot.
On the other hand, if you pair with town, scum have to choose between shooting you because you're IC, and possibly another pairing which they fear more due to play. The IC role isn't always the most valuable thing in the game, not enough to make pairing conftown with scum a good idea.

I have not thought about the setup and optimal things about it. The farthest Ive thought about the setup is that I hope I get asked to the dance and that he’s someone fun that I can read and work with in the qt. It’d be nice if he’s town but I’m cool suiciding if I think he’s not. I’ll probably have better things thoughts about strategy once I see how things are playing out, hopefully!

Don’t have great townreads right now. G2, g6, l9?

Ok, thanks! I agree that chemistry is important in pairs, but also I'd like to avoid town suiciding if at all possible because the penalty for getting it wrong is so bad.

[Lady 1]

@L2: Because this strategy requires cooperation, it can't be left until later since people will probably start pairing badly which will lead to suicides. I appreciate you repeating them for me. I'm also getting distracted by interacting with people currently instead of rereading on a bigger screen.

@G2: yeah let's avoid suiciding. If you're a cassandra, show that off now with sorting out good pairings

Can you elaborate on this, how do you know that they had avatars early?

I scoped out all of the players because I was interested in what people were doing. You can still find profiles even if someone hasn't posted, using the member list. Lady 6 does not have an avatar.

This seems like a nothing question. I mean if you're interested in how to view their profiles sure, but sounded like you were trying to get a read off my method somehow.

[Lady 1]

Dearest Father,

Thank you so much for getting me an invite into this most splendid social gathering. You really must leave the city and come to this countryside estate. The grounds are breathtaking. Nestled at the top of the hill between lush evergreen trees lies the most regal estate imaginable. Magnificent stone lions adorn the gate, each paw the size of my head! The fountains in the courtyard are trimmed with gold and silver. This is truly one of the most beautiful places in the world. The dancers are even more magnificent. Bachelor and debutante alike glide effortlessly across the soft pinewood floors. Their bodies move to the ebb and flow of the music. At the conclusion of every dance, they hold themselves like the finest marbled statutes. Margaret's mask will do me just fine here. One dancer has the most beautiful mask adored with feathers from swans, peacocks, and golden pheasants. If only her dancing skills matched her taste in attire. I have already seen her make quite a few missteps. Myself, I am quite pleased to be here. I will do my best to match these graceful dancers. I hope to do you and Mother proud!

Best,
Catherine

[Lady 1]

Dear Margaret,

I absolutely

adore

the mask that you lent me. I wish you were here with me. Some of the other debutantes are quite particular. I myself do not fancy one dancer in particular. She has amber hair and seems rather aloof. She acts like a woman of the lowest pedigree. If I had to guess, she only cares about improving her status as much as possible. One unfortunate soul fell for her little spell already. No matter, plenty of dashing gentlemen to go around. You would faint just from the looking at them.

Regards,
Catherine

[Lady 1]

That is to say I would like to hear much more from Gentleman 8, and I, too, will be severely disappointed if this is all he has to offer today.

What, exactly, would you like me to offer? I'm not reading 60 pages of nonsense pregame.

If you didn't read, how did you propose to L7? How would you have known to?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Well, follow the implication of if he's scum to it's conclusion. Why L7 over L5 L6 (me) or L1?

I am a firm believer L1 should sit based on this.

L5 is the easy mislynch in this setup.
Then picking between L6 and me, L7 is further from being correct.

Dearest Maisel,

I heard quite a confusing statement while I was using the powder room. Would you mind assisting me in deciphering the logic behind the comment? I know you studied Rhetoric and Language at Oxford, so I hope you can shed some light.

Sincerely,
Cousin Catherine

[Lady 1]

Gentleman 2 - Lady 9

Gentleman 4 - Lady 3

Gentleman 5 - Lady 4

Gentleman 6 -

Lady 8

Lady 5

[Lady 1]

Gentleman 2 - Lady 9

Gentleman 4 - Lady 3

Gentleman 5 - Lady 4

Gentleman 6 -

Lady 8

Lady 5

Me gusta.

Which single gentleman would you like to pair with

Gentlemen 3, most likely.

[Lady 1]

Do you people not understand the point of an alt game?

[Lady 1]

That is to say I would like to hear much more from Gentleman 8, and I, too, will be severely disappointed if this is all he has to offer today.

What, exactly, would you like me to offer? I'm not reading 60 pages of nonsense pregame.

If you didn't read, how did you propose to L7? How would you have known to?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Well, follow the implication of if he's scum to it's conclusion. Why L7 over L5 L6 (me) or L1?

I am a firm believer L1 should sit based on this.
L5 is the easy mislynch in this setup.
Then picking between L6 and me, L7 is further from being correct.

L6, can you explain this post for why I should sit? I do not understand the reasoning behind this post.

[Lady 1]

Dear Catherine,

Thank you for your time, I appreciate your timely response in such a hectic situation. We are currently dealing with a lady who is thinking of jumping off a ledge so as you probably know, never a dull moment haha.

I wish you the best in finding a date to the dance. Its pretty exclusive. Guess we will see what happens.

Sincerely,
Allen

Allen,

That is quite dire. I am of the opinion that xe should jump despite knowing xe only has the best intentions at heart. Unfortunately, xe has become quite the distraction. The dancing is suffering as a result.

[Lady 1]

Lady 1, you seem to have plenty of time to needle Lady 5 but no time to answer the question regarding which single gentleman you prefer.

Where have I been needling Lady 5?

[Lady 1]

That is to say I would like to hear much more from Gentleman 8, and I, too, will be severely disappointed if this is all he has to offer today.

What, exactly, would you like me to offer? I'm not reading 60 pages of nonsense pregame.

If you didn't read, how did you propose to L7? How would you have known to?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Well, follow the implication of if he's scum to it's conclusion. Why L7 over L5 L6 (me) or L1?

I am a firm believer L1 should sit based on this.
L5 is the easy mislynch in this setup.
Then picking between L6 and me, L7 is further from being correct.

L6, can you explain this post for why I should sit? I do not understand the reasoning behind this post.

If G8 is randomly picking, why not just pick the first single lady. She's his partner.

How do you know he is randomly picking?

[Lady 1]

That is to say I would like to hear much more from Gentleman 8, and I, too, will be severely disappointed if this is all he has to offer today.

What, exactly, would you like me to offer? I'm not reading 60 pages of nonsense pregame.

If you didn't read, how did you propose to L7? How would you have known to?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Well, follow the implication of if he's scum to it's conclusion. Why L7 over L5 L6 (me) or L1?

I am a firm believer L1 should sit based on this.
L5 is the easy mislynch in this setup.
Then picking between L6 and me, L7 is further from being correct.

L6, can you explain this post for why I should sit? I do not understand the reasoning behind this post.

If G8 is randomly picking, why not just pick the first single lady. She's his partner.

How do you know he is randomly picking?

He's not. That's the point of the post.

If he's not randomly picking, why would he pick the first single lady?

[Lady 1]

I think G4, 5, and 6 are all probably town. I think L4 and L5 are probably town. I scumlean L6, but I can’t tell if they are insufferably bad or just mafia trying to control the narrative. Either way, her point about G8 not choosing me and therefore me being scum buddies makes no sense for her stated reasons and looks like she’s trying to setup lynches based off G8’s flip.

I agree that G8 is probably scum.

G5, why did you say my desire to pair with G3 was bad?

[Lady 1]

Did anyone else feel like the 7/7 pair came out of left field?

[Lady 1]

I think G4, 5, and 6 are all probably town. I think L4 and L5 are probably town. I scumlean L6, but I can’t tell if they are insufferably bad or just mafia trying to control the narrative. Either way, her point about G8 not choosing me and therefore me being scum buddies makes no sense for her stated reasons and looks like she’s trying to setup lynches based off G8’s flip.

I agree that G8 is probably scum.

G5, why did you say my desire to pair with G3 was bad?

Its more that L6 and L2 deserve a seat to the table with G3 and G1

What? That doesn’t make any sense. My answer to your question (to refresh your memory: which gentlemen would you (directed at me) want?) has no bearing on L6/L2 getting asked. Why do L6/L2 deserve a seat at that table with those specific gentlemen?

[Lady 1]

Did anyone else feel like the 7/7 pair came out of left field?

Like, maybe, but L7 has been one of the most desirable ladies and G7 arguably one of the best remaining gents so I can see why either would find it suitable.

Ah I didn’t know that. I’m probably not reading more than 10-15 pages outside my replace in.

[Lady 1]

L2 should get asked by most townie remaining Gentleman if I’m not going to get asked.

I’ve never played a dance game. Do people just kill themselves or do people vote them out?

[Lady 1]

I’ll leave on G8, if you promise to listen to me about L8 and L6.

[Lady 1]

I think L5 is town. I would really rather we kill L6, but if L5 -> G8/L1 nabs 1 scum I will be ok with that.

[Lady 1]

Town:
G2
G4
L5
L2
L4
G5
G6
G3

I think that’s my town bloc.

[Lady 1]

L5 is playing so bad it has to be town.

G6, G5, why the strong L6 town reads?

[Lady 1]

I’m thinking this game is 2G/1L. I think if L6 isn’t scum, L8’s auto acceptance from nowhere is scum indicative. Would make sense too if 2G/1L.

[Lady 1]

I would rather not pair with G1 because I can tell our play styles do not mesh. I feel like he has a better than random chance to be town, but I think I am better at reading people who are less analytical.

[Lady 1]

L1 why are you so insistent that I sit out? Seems quite reactionary and desperate.

Well, there are 4 ladies left including me. I know I’m town. I think L5 is playing too bad to be scum. I think L2 is townie than you. I also pointed out how your logic on changing G8’s choice as alignment indicative for me is bad and possibly scum motivated.

[Lady 1]

jeezus l1 posting is bad

How?

[Lady 1]

I’m thinking this game is 2G/1L. I think if L6 isn’t scum, L8’s auto acceptance from nowhere is scum indicative. Would make sense too if 2G/1L.

L8s accept was hasty, but not from nowhere.

How was it not from nowhere?

[Lady 1]

G6, please answer my earlier question about why you are strong townreading L6. G5, you too.

[Lady 1]

L1 can you just rank the dance partners you want, then bold and Max size that list for us ty

Town:
G1
G3
G8

Ideal situation to read partner:
G3
G1
G8

I would take G8 and leave dance at very first opportunity though.

[Lady 1]

Except that I’m Town so now think of this from my perspective.
Your being a moron RN is what I’m getting at.
Also don’t refuse to answer my questions you better answer them.

@Someone
Can you make sure to re post my post with the questions to G6 if I end up dying from not having a partner.

Man.
I don't want to brute force a lynch on G4. I want to get L4 to do it for me because I don't want to go through all of that hassle.
Do you get that, do you get why I'm not like arguing with everyone's townreads on G5 in thread?

You scum read G4?

[Lady 1]

L5 is playing so bad it has to be town.

G6, G5, why the strong L6 town reads?

I liked the entrance from yesterday, it was wayyyy to agressive and stubborn to come from scum.

The fact she stopped after overreacting is good too.

Hm. I think we think differently about how Mafia would approach this game.

[Lady 1]

L1 can you just rank the dance partners you want, then bold and Max size that list for us ty

Town:
G1
G3
G8

Ideal situation to read partner:
G3
G1
G8

I would take G8 and leave dance at very first opportunity though.

Chances are G8 is probably just going to fast grab L6 since it’s auto.
My list is always -) G3, G1, G8.

G8 would only do that if he’s not scum with L6, which I’m not sure is that highly likely.

[Lady 1]

You scum read G4?

G5, and very confidently. I townread G4.

But you said you don’t want to brute force a lynch on G4, you want L4 to do that to avoid hassle? Was the G4 a typo?

[Lady 1]

Promise me not to leave and let us lunch you instead

Who is this to?

L1

But everyone too

What’s the difference if I leave versus getting lynched?

[Lady 1]

G5 is scum for more than his lack of townreads and his reluctance to dole out townreads, which is why I am spiritually voting him.

If I don't survive, can you table your battle with G5 and L5 until G1 G8 and L1 die? I think scum are in a hell of a predicament here if my gut instinct is correct.

If G3 partners with L5 that will leave G1 and G8 alive. One would partner with L1 and the other would let me die by partnering with L2.

If this setup happens, lynch L1 asap please. Then go to your silly squabbles.

You haven’t even explained why you’re scumreading me other than an associative based off Krap Logick that I pointed out doesn’t make sense. And you’ve avoided my question about this twice now.

[Lady 1]

L5 is like so bad at this.

[Lady 1]

G6 = RC, I guess.

[Lady 1]

He literally slipped and got removed from the thread, L5.

Did he get replaced?

If you alt slip by either posting on your main in this game, or by positing ona lady account in another game/thread, you are automatically force replaced.

[Lady 1]

G6 = RC, I guess.

Also I'm flattered, but no.

Is that a compliment?

[Lady 1]

auto accept any invitation

See you all after veteran’s day

vla

[Lady 1]

He literally slipped and got removed from the thread, L5.

Did he get replaced?

If you alt slip by either posting on your main in this game, or by positing ona lady account in another game/thread, you are automatically force replaced.

Then why’s he still here?

He’s not.

[Lady 1]

jeezus l1 posting is bad

How?

My little beach cottage has WiFi :ooo hype

Fly-like-a-G6, did you ever answer this question?

I think I know who L5 is beyond a doubt. They are town, but they are also an egregious flailer as town. I think I know who L2 is, and while she seems town, if my hunch is correct, has major deepwolf potential. My paranoia aside - I think all of the remaining ladies are more likely to be town than not. Of the remaining ones, I think L6 is the least town.

L4’s recent posting has lowered my faith in my town read on her, but G3 has increased my faith in him.

[Lady 1]

I actually vastly prefer having known that Chennis was replaced so I can play around it rather than having no idea what slot Dannflor was representing that then shifted.

What? You’re saying you don’t know what slot Dann was in?

[Lady 1]

“Why are men great til they gotta be great” - my read on the men as a collective whole.

Having a really hard time finding some town reads amongst the gents :/

Isn’t that lyric why are men great until they gotta be brave?

[Lady 1]

To be honest, I don't really think that you'll get that opportunity for very long, if anything, since you're the IC. As for your pairings, I would kind of prefer to switch myself-L3 with G4-L1. I'm under the impression L1 is a mechanical player and I'm not quite feeling that that's a good blend with G4 (Okay, mostly it's that I'm also a mechanical player and think I'll do well with L1). Also kinda meh on G1-L2 because I'm liking G1 and not liking L2 as much. I don't really know how to swap things around, though. And then there's the next point, see below.

Why did you not like G1 and L2 at this point in the game?

[Lady 1]

Also because the poetry is uninspired, I'm just going to outright say a few things:

1. I'm currently on Page 15 and I still like Lady 3. She's not my strongest town read, but I think she's town.
2. A lot of the Ladies are looking particularly undesirable.
3. Of the Ladies I have town reads on, I think Lady 3 is the best match for the way I'm approaching this game.
4. I'd like to match somewhat early just because it would be really nice to be able to discuss my reads with someone else, and based of what I've seen from Lady 3, as long as she has things to add in the PT, I think I have a solid chance of getting a good read on her.

Huh. G4 might be scum.

[Lady 1]

Okay I'm back at the present.

All things considered I think this has the best chance of setting us up for success.

Lady 6, let's tango.

Why L6 over L2?

[Lady 1]

Okay I'm back at the present.

All things considered I think this has the best chance of setting us up for success.

Lady 6, let's tango.

Why L6 over L2?

Because I think he still liked L6 from before.
Like he interacted with her before you came and he was debating about her.

Also if I don’t make it to dance I refuse to count this as a game I participated in because if I stayed around to watch this I might end up using Outside Communication and I’d rather avoid that.

Good thing no one will actually know who you are as this is an alt game. You only reveal yourself if you want.
Side Note: I don’t know how anyone thinks this is scum.

[Lady 1]

It seems like L2 and G1 were a match made in heaven.

[Lady 1]

I agree with Lady 7. I would actually like people to talk about why I should die because a part from two people, no one has actually espoused why I should die.

L6 thinks I should die because of an associative tell with G8
G5 thinks (thought might be more accurate) I should die because my predecessor was inactive

G6 said my posting was bad but has avoided answering what exactly was bad.
L5 said I should be going because of Thunderdome implications with L6, which is an inaccurate assessment at least about my motivations or play.

Other than that, no one has expressed why I should be leaving the dance. At the current rate, I’m leaving the dance simply because the wind blows and the majority of this town doesn’t care.

[Lady 1]

I actually vastly prefer having known that Chennis was replaced so I can play around it rather than having no idea what slot Dannflor was representing that then shifted.

What? You’re saying you don’t know what slot Dann was in?

I still don't.

Also I'm not pushing for your exclusion really.

I don't want 6 removed. Between 2 5 1 idrc

That question was vestigial. I thought L9 was a Dann, until I actually read you pointed out it couldn’t be because L9 responded to the post that Dann slip-responded to.

[Lady 1]

I feel like the people expressing opinions that preDance does not matter fail to see that people like L4 are already setting themselves up for first Lynch based off preDance. L4 is not the only one who has done that either.

I’m not sure if L4 is scum for it, but she’s just the most recent one to visibly make a post expressing implied lynch order. L5 I think has also done this.

[Lady 1]

What do you see that's problematic?

I think this type of things is typical? In every game I've been in that has a confirmation stage, which is what I'm taking this as, people get their reads in that stage and continue from there.

Is there something different that you're seeing?

It’s more problematic in this setup because it is lining up two deaths. I’ve already relegated myself to the fact that I am going to die if not preDance, than first dance unless G1 decides to be my knight in shining armor. I’m not sure I want him to be my savior, either. I do townread L2’s posts and I would much prefer that L2 does not die. But that comes necessarily at the cost of my own life.

This is all under the operating premise that G8 is scum, which even if he isn’t, he has to go because he’s simply unreadable at this point with how little content he has.

[Lady 1]

dear everyone:

stop saying ur going to leave

because if leave outside of lylo

ur a poop face who sucks

thank you

Another reason as to why G4/L3 is Town.

Funny enough L1 and L6 Scum Read each other and G4.

I think L1 needs to go based upon PoE.

This is not true. I do not scumread G4. He’s one of my stronger townreads.

[Lady 1]

Even if you townread G5, it's intellectually dishonest to pretend that he's not using "your partner is scum" as a tool to discredit my scumread on him.

I feel bad for L1. She seems like a nice person who deserves a dance.

At least I did not expend much effort rereading because it would have been all for naught.

[Lady 1]

Well then, this is disheartening.

I really do find it impossible to keep up with the pace you good people are producing.

At this stage, I will happily attend the dance with anyone who would also like not to be left by the wayside. I see Lady Luck has declined my invitation, so let us try again -

Lady 5, would you care to dance?

I wonder if this was because L2 is scum. Or maybe it was to cast doubt on L2’s alignment. That is a very interesting turn of events.

[Lady 1]

G6, talk to me, dear. I admit I initially town read G5 in part because of the tunnel between you two, but I haven’t read his iso in depth.

[Lady 1]

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11371939]post 2505[/url], Lady 7"][quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11371913]post 2502[/url], Lady 1"][quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11371557]post 2421[/url], Gentleman 8"][i]Well then, this is disheartening.

I really do find it impossible to keep up with the pace you good people are producing.

At this stage, I will happily attend the dance with anyone who would also like not to be left by the wayside. I see Lady Luck has declined my invitation, so let us try again -[/i]

[b]Lady 5, would you care to dance?[/b][/quote]

I wonder if this was because L2 is scum. Or maybe it was to cast doubt on L2’s alignment. That is a very interesting turn of events.[/quote]

But with one gentleman left, and a chance his partnerould get left behind, why not ask his partner. Sure they might be the one to go first in the dance but at least theyve helped to insure that a townie will be unasked.[/quote]

If operating under the assumption that G8 and L2 are scum this means that currently L1 (town) dies, L5 (town) dies, and G1 (town dies) or possibly his partner and just one townie dies (L5) by being tied to him.

Under your proposal, it means that one lady dies and then they both die by being tied to one another.

The play just made ensures the worst possible scenario of one townie dying, with the possibility of three dying. That’s much better statistically than the situation you suggested where the two scum pair.

[Lady 1]

If I am dead by morning, I would be wary of people going after a weaker player to actually get rid of their stronger partner. I would imagine that is the work around the no night kill.

[Lady 1]

Well then, this is disheartening.

I really do find it impossible to keep up with the pace you good people are producing.

At this stage, I will happily attend the dance with anyone who would also like not to be left by the wayside. I see Lady Luck has declined my invitation, so let us try again -

Lady 5, would you care to dance?

I wonder if this was because L2 is scum. Or maybe it was to cast doubt on L2’s alignment. That is a very interesting turn of events.

But with one gentleman left, and a chance his partnerould get left behind, why not ask his partner. Sure they might be the one to go first in the dance but at least theyve helped to insure that a townie will be unasked.

If operating under the assumption that G8 and L2 are scum this means that currently L1 (town) dies, L5 (town) dies, and G1 (town dies) or possibly his partner and just one townie dies (L5) by being tied to him.

Under your proposal, it means that one lady dies and then they both die by being tied to one another.

The play just made ensures the worst possible scenario of one townie dying, with the possibility of three dying. That’s much better statistically than the situation you suggested where the two scum pair.

I don’t follow. Unless I’m misunderstanding you’re saying that potentially g8(scum) decided to go for l5(town) over l2(scum) which doesn’t make sense to me because that means he’s leaving behind his partner to die certain death in pregame rather than having a fighting chance in dance.

It’s not certain death for L2. That’s why it was the play to make. Even if L2 does die and is scum, when G8 goes he takes one townie with him (L5).

Whereas if G8 scum and L2 scum pair up, that means a townie dies but ONLY one townie dies by the time G8 goes.

I see you’re saying that G8 might not die and therefore he should take the chance to also save his partner, but G8 is definitely scum and is definitely dying.

[Lady 1]

It’s interesting because if I was scum G8 and I had L2 partner scum, I pick me.
If I was scum G8 and only townies left, I never pick L5. I pick either L1 or L2.

Why would he pick L5? Maybe to keep L5 alive so she further ruins the little semblance of cohesion this town has? Possibly.
Maybe it is because this guarantees a strong townie dies. It’s probably a little of both.

A strong townie dies AND L5 continues to muck things up. That makes sense.
Plus maybe he saw that I would instaleave if he paired with me.

[Lady 1]

At any rate, choosing L5 does increase L2 scum equity slightly. I think it is a negligible amount, but it should be noted for future consideration.

[Lady 1]

I feel too preoccupied with G8. L7, who are your suspects?

[Lady 1]

I feel too preoccupied with G8. L7, who are your suspects?

What is your read on l2? I thought you were reading her as town.

(I’m squinting at most the game.)

I do townread L2. I was just pointing out that her scum equity has risen slightly. Not enough to eclipse a town read though.

[Lady 1]

G1, please don't make L2 walk.

Why do you want me to die?

[Lady 1]

I take it that my apparent partner, Lady 5, is much suspected by the lot of you. Excellent. If my own assessment of her dancing ability is in accord, I shall leave with her and thus relieve you all of her presence, and relieve myself of your dubious company.

You’re also highly suspected.

[Lady 1]

Again, I feel the choice of partner is entirely superfluous, and that it is hubris to attempt to solve much of anything before partners are decided.

Why do you think analyzing who picks who is superfluous?

[Lady 1]

Based on what, precisely? Refusing to engage in this pointless part of the ritual? I decline to be ostracized because you dislike my methodology. Good day to you as well, madam.

I’m not the only one suspecting you. I am pretty sure you were suspected before I even joined this game.

[Lady 1]

Why do you want me to die?

Because I don't want L2 to die, and one of you two has to.

What post of mine gave you the impression that i was hotheaded?

[Lady 1]

I guess if L5 flips scum it makes you likelier to be town because she was trying to frame your argument with L6 as a Big Deal.

I’m confused by this comment because you want me to flip before L5 does.

[Lady 1]

Why did you ultimately go with L6 despite having L5 and L2 available and having strong town reads on those two?

[Lady 1]

I think that is a pro-scum mentality reason to choose someone.

[Lady 1]

Why did you assume that a G3-L2 would live for a long time and not get jettisoned at intermission?

[Lady 1]

Why did you assume that a G3-L2 would live for a long time and not get jettisoned at intermission?

Is this at me?

Yes.

[Lady 1]

I think that is a pro-scum mentality reason to choose someone.

It's a pro-teamwork mentality. Certainly something a lot of people here aren't familiar with.

Plenty of people were townreading L2, though.

[Lady 1]

I THOUght out were townreading l2, and now it reads like you’re positioning to call her scum to save yourself.

I think it's human nature in this situation.

As I said, I’m not scumreading L2, but the decision does in crease L2 scum equity.

[Lady 1]

Why did you assume that a G3-L2 would live for a long time and not get jettisoned at intermission?

Is this at me?

Yes.

A variety of reasons. The simplest being that I am never NK'd, but even if I were to be, I don't think me or L2 is as widely townread as L9, G6, or L8.

That’s an interesting statement considering L8 and G6 are fairly likely on the chopping block.

[Lady 1]

We need to do the opposite of creating conversation

You worrying about the choice between L2/L1 presupposes knowledge that an incorrect choice can be made. Why?

[Lady 1]

There's always an incorrect or a less correct choice. Even if you both are town, one of you is going to positively influence town wincondition more than the other.

But letting G1 make the choice singlehandedly seems odd, if there is a less correct choice to make. Especially considering he won’t have enough time to properly think about the game before deadline.

[Lady 1]

So we all die?

[Lady 1]

What a perfect metaphor for this game.

[Lady 1]

Choose wisely.

[Lady 1]

Good luck town.