Perfect Masquerade [Game Over]

[Lady 6]

Hello. I am glad to arrive at this ball. Will a smashing gentleman steal my heart?

[Lady 6]

I'm a watt?

This is just too good. Well played, both of you.

I'm afraid not. Older Harry is a Joule of my eye.

[Lady 6]

Time to get cracking. Will someone talk to me so I am not rambling alone in the late night hours?

[Lady 6]

The way you're defending her makes me want her dead more and you next if she's scum.

This feels overly hostile. Most slots are town and can have real life interfere.

[Lady 6]

As my counterpart in 6iness, I will talk to you.

Great, who is town in your opinion out of the gentlemen? Would you rather dance with town or scum?

[Lady 6]

The way you're defending her makes me want her dead more and you next if she's scum.

This feels overly hostile. Most slots are town and can have real life interfere.

I will point it out for the record I would dance with my scummate as scum. But shhhhhhhh let him carry on.

Time to get cracking. Will someone talk to me so I am not rambling alone in the late night hours?

What took you so long to get in here? Are you caught up in the game? Which Lady doesnt deserve a man?

I am afraid I cannot answer that first question beyond the shackles of my humanity as it would reveal my lineage good sir. However, I do plan on catching up and engaging.

I'll answer the last in a bit but the lady who should sit is the one who doesn't talk, says nothing when they do or talks so much that it blocks effective communication. That is the standard I will apply.

[Lady 6]

Alright, I feel better now.

So, who wants to talk shop by the punch bowl?

Only if you put liquor in it.

Lady 7, what do you think of one of the gentlemen suggesting you lack a partner?

[Lady 6]

Mask: donned

Hello, odd-numbered friends. Time for evens to join the party!

Hello. I wish we had more memorable names.

Which one of you’s Scum? ^_^

I'm to here. The excessive use of emoji talk by this lady scares me. Lady 7 gives me the creeps.

[Lady 6]

Right now that's you though, is this a lack of awareness on your part or are you committing to posting more?

Committing to posting more. I will be VLA Sunday and Monday though.

[Lady 6]

Me. It hit me wrong.

What about it? You think it was overly conciliatory?

Let's let the lady speak without supplying her with answers.

Cringe.

[Lady 6]

Alright I'm through page four and I'm perfectly ok answering Lady 5 should sit. Too much noise and forced emojis.

[Lady 6]

I think G2 should aim for talkative scum. He's conftown. If he gets paired with a scum, he forces a 1 v 1 trade. If he hits a vocal player, the hood gives information.

[Lady 6]

I'm currently fine with any of 1, 3, 5, 7 sitting out.

If this were a Sadie Hawkins dance, I'd have asked G6 out a while ago. The rest just don't impress.

Odd, why are you saying I should dance?

Why can't you find a good man here? I think G5 is definitely worth linking to.

[Lady 6]

If there's an S-S pair in the process of happening here it is G5-L5. Neither of them is making any sense on the subject.

*shudders*

[Lady 6]

Also because the poetry is uninspired, I'm just going to outright say a few things:

1. I'm currently on Page 15 and I still like Lady 3. She's not my strongest town read, but I think she's town.
2. A lot of the Ladies are looking particularly undesirable.
3. Of the Ladies I have town reads on, I think Lady 3 is the best match for the way I'm approaching this game.
4. I'd like to match somewhat early just because it would be really nice to be able to discuss my reads with someone else, and based of what I've seen from Lady 3, as long as she has things to add in the PT, I think I have a solid chance of getting a good read on her.

*shudders*

[Lady 6]

Personally, I feel outting townreads are a bad idea until dance time, but thats just me?

Wait, why is outing townreads a bad idea? I'm of the opinion that we should get a strong towncore--of course, this does depend on our ability to keep scum out. I don't really see the advantage of hiding them?

Again, I think its better not to out town reads until we dance, as we have to factor the pairs.

We can only scumhunt in ladies right now and theres the possibility that all 8 of them could be town.

Is this a town-slip? All of dance games have been 1:2 or 2:1 for scum ratios.

No past occurrences do not change future probability. Gentleman 5 is my favorite gentleman but it's not a townslip.

[Lady 6]

I'm also okay with 6 sitting by the way.

Why?

[Lady 6]

Lady 6 is going to die anyways and flipping 6 right now isn't going to do much especially since we have a limited time with ic pairing probs

Holy forkballs! Just what makes you think you can control all the lynches and be certain I'll be mislynched?

*eyes bulging*

[Lady 6]

because I want to pair with someone who wants to pair with me,

I would pair with you.

[Lady 6]

Lady 6 is going to die anyways and flipping 6 right now isn't going to do much especially since we have a limited time with ic pairing probs

Holy forkballs! Just what makes you think you can control all the lynches and be certain I'll be mislynched?

*eyes bulging*

Well when your thread presence is almost zero you are going to be dead

Maybe its your redemption arc.

The interaction with my posts have been limited because I don't write flowery, pointless posts or spam. Every word I say has a purpose. Take it or leave it. What do you think of the reads I have expressed on this page?

[Lady 6]

You know, for 44 pages in, there seems to be alot of uncertainty for reads.

I mean, theres a reason/excuse I, G2, and maybe one or two other have, but the rest of yall idk what to think.

That is because a lot of the posting is grandstanding, roleplaying, alt guessing and spam. If we're all more deliberate with our posting, we'll all be more readable.

[Lady 6]

This wont work, but lets try it because Im bored.

Lady 4, care to dance?

P-edit: we dont know that, i doubt that the above works.

*sobs*

You ask scum before me?

[Lady 6]

Hello. I am glad to arrive at this ball. Will a smashing gentleman steal my heart?

I'm a watt?

This is just too good. Well played, both of you.

I'm afraid not. Older Harry is a Joule of my eye.

Time to get cracking. Will someone talk to me so I am not rambling alone in the late night hours?

L6 can you give me the purpose of the above please. I dont see it, they look “flowery, pointless posts, or spam”

Sure.

Post 1: Intro post. I have to announce I am here.
Post 2: Says I townread 6, but the pun is bad. Leading by example.
Post 3: I wanted more direct engagement when I was present so I asked for it.

[Lady 6]

You know, for 44 pages in, there seems to be alot of uncertainty for reads.

I mean, theres a reason/excuse I, G2, and maybe one or two other have, but the rest of yall idk what to think.

That is because a lot of the posting is grandstanding, roleplaying, alt guessing and spam. If we're all more deliberate with our posting, we'll all be more readable.

Can I argue that those are AI?

Sure, if you reach a conclusion from it. I don't believe a tactic is AI but how it's used is.

[Lady 6]

L7, thoughts on L3 trying to get you to the dance?

I find the request by L3 odd. Then again L7 doesn't feel extremely townie to me though. L3 and L7 are not likely partnered though.

[Lady 6]

I dont feel like being anyones favorite beside maybe L4.

Even if my crush is unrequited, I will still have it. So you might as well accept it.

[Lady 6]

If that's a setup for a future push it's the shittiest, bluntest one I've ever seen.

*shrug* Figures that the slots I suggest have wierd posts call me arrogant and use general labels such as "scumposting" rather than reply to my observations or request clarification (like gentleman 5 does). This is particularly useful since you only wanted to use a widely accepted dance pairing.

[Lady 6]

L6, my mistress.

Have thoughts on L8 and L9?

Lady 8 is a nullread. I don't see how partnering on G2 would be a nullread then she had the weird townslip posts. Her posts just don't make sense for either alignment. Gun to my head, town. You could use the same observations and reach scum.

Lady 9 is one of my favorite ladies. I think G2 picked a fellow townie. Part of me says shading her is better strategy but I am not good at deceit to trick scum without knowing the real usernames.

[Lady 6]

If that's a setup for a future push it's the shittiest, bluntest one I've ever seen.

*shrug* Figures that the slots I suggest have wierd posts call me arrogant and use general labels such as "scumposting" rather than reply to my observations or request clarification (like gentleman 5 does). This is particularly useful since you only wanted to use a widely accepted dance pairing.

Scumposting

Case in point.

[Lady 6]

In 1156 the second "nullread" should say boring. I got distracted while drafting.

[Lady 6]

Actually, I dunno if L6 is scum.

^

L5 and L8 deserve to die before L6 imo.

I can dig this chicks vibe. Not sold on town, but Ill play.

I don't think Lady 8 should die. I think Lady 3-5 and G4 have at least 2 scum.

If I had to guess the last scum, it would be G1 or G8 although I would want it to be G6 because he was an ass earlier.

[Lady 6]

The Lady 8 scum reads don't make sense to me.

I also don't think that forgiving Lady 6 just because she plays like she's got binoculars glued to her eyes is the best course of action either. Too scummy to be scum is rarely an argument, I think.

Interesting. A direct potshot but a potshot none the less.

What does binoculars glued to my face mean? Why is that scummy?

Who are your scumreads?

[Lady 6]

If that's a setup for a future push it's the shittiest, bluntest one I've ever seen.

*shrug* Figures that the slots I suggest have wierd posts call me arrogant and use general labels such as "scumposting" rather than reply to my observations or request clarification (like gentleman 5 does). This is particularly useful since you only wanted to use a widely accepted dance pairing.

Scumposting

Case in point.

So L6 I’m pretty sure that g3 is responding to something about me not you.

Given G4's later replies to me and his lack of correction, I disagree.

[Lady 6]

I think reactionary is probably a better word than aggressive. The latter implies proactive play.

So, you don't think me asking to be partners with G3 or G5 is proactive? You don't think me suggesting who scum are is initiative taking? You don't think giving suggestions to improve the thread is proactive? You don't think calling attention to myself when I can be here is proactive?

Just what is your standard for proactive?

[Lady 6]

No one has called you arrogant, Lady 6.

Where was Gentleman 6 an ass?

What G5 said. I'm not in the mood for semantics. Someone said I was arrogant or full of myself. I'm not exactly going to find it.

I understand you disagree G5. I really hope L8 ends up at the dance so we can sort it out. I think most of the scum will soon be at the dance though anyway.

[Lady 6]

Maybe I’m missing something but I thought G3’s original post you responded to was a response to g6 getting concerned about something I said. I don’t think he’s been back in the thread since that.

Oh I have no issue with G3. I was explaining to G3 that scum shade rather than address things head on.

[Lady 6]

You think Lady 6 is townposting?

No, that was a response to 1142 about L7.

Why do the cute ones not like me?

[Lady 6]

I want to point out that it looks like she's calling almost half the game scum here and that doesn't necessarily seem

No. I have been calling Ladies 3,4, and 5 scum with Gentleman 1 or 8 and you. That is not almost half the game. No where near. It needs a little filtering down but is not a wild, reactionary list.

[Lady 6]

Everything you've done today seems to come out of emotional response to the fact that you've been called out multiple times by multiple people. You don't seem to be aware of yourself, in control of your posting, your thoughts aren't congruent, there is little or no discernable process, direction, or purpose behind your posts other than to lash out at the people who have called you out. Hence, reactionary.

Look dudes, this chick scumreads me. Rather than ask why or look at the posts she found offensive, I'll just call her crazy and emotional.

If you have trouble understanding why I form the reads I have, how can you be confident their reactionary or emotional? Your posting towards me today has been gaslighting and discrediting rather than intending to solve my alignment.

[Lady 6]

I want to point out that it looks like she's calling almost half the game scum here and that doesn't necessarily seem

No. I have been calling Ladies 3,4, and 5 scum with Gentleman 1 or 8 and you. That is not almost half the game. No where near. It needs a little filtering down but is not a wild, reactionary list.

Well, let's see.

8.5 is half, and you called 6 people scum. I'd say 6 is almost 8, so yeah. Very nearly.

It's almost like you could say, you called almost half the game scum here. Oh wait.

There's 17 players. 6/17 =35 percent. If you want to play even more semantics, 3 and 6 are only 1 person away from 8 and 6.

So, can you do better? Can you name all the scum in 5 names? I did ask for your reads.

Or is "nearly half" just a potshot when I have 2/3 of the game as town.

[Lady 6]

@G4, very good answers, i agree with you, but I think L6 is playing reactionary at this time.

You break my heart G5.

[Lady 6]

Everything you've done today seems to come out of emotional response to the fact that you've been called out multiple times by multiple people. You don't seem to be aware of yourself, in control of your posting, your thoughts aren't congruent, there is little or no discernable process, direction, or purpose behind your posts other than to lash out at the people who have called you out. Hence, reactionary.

Look dudes, this chick scumreads me. Rather than ask why or look at the posts she found offensive, I'll just call her crazy and emotional.

If you have trouble understanding why I form the reads I have, how can you be confident their reactionary or emotional? Your posting towards me today has been gaslighting and discrediting rather than intending to solve my alignment.

I think it's beyond evident that I have done more than my part in research. I also don't find myself to be lacking in understanding as far what your reads are.

I haven't gaslighted you and I doubt that simply using big words to attempt to discredit me will get you very far. You've made multiple posts that show a remarkable lack of awareness of game state and positions, and several of your posts have said that things have happened that have specifically not happened. I highly recommend you re-examine your perspective.

I recommend you go die. Neither of us is getting what we want.

The closest I came today to an error in perspective is when I misread a question from L7 as involving you and not G3.

Until you put your reads in the thread, we have nothing more to say to each other, you repugnant toad.

[Lady 6]

Why do the cute ones not like me?

I don't have anything against you but you've legit been MIA for most of the game so I don't have much to go on.

Well I'm here now. I will have holiday celebrations to attend to this weekend but I don't expect to much silence after that. I put in the time when I have it and I am open to any honest questions.

[Lady 6]

@G4, very good answers, i agree with you, but I think L6 is playing reactionary at this time.

You break my heart G5.

Im trying to help you actually. I dont think you are scum.

Had this be a game where our identities were known, I would tell you from expierence what you are doing right now is going to end with you flipping town early and bitching in the dead thread about how you were right all along.

Stop posting for now, take a deep breath and relax.

I plan on getting more from you later but right now youre digging a hole.

P-Edit: Please stop. Wtf is this

You can help me by helping me find a partner. I'm trying to help town see scum, not over posting, while dealing with their collective attacks. I'm not going to sugarcoat this that I feel most people have made their alignments obvious this game now.

[Lady 6]

Spoiler: Lady 4 intro

Hello. I wish we had more memorable names.

We could come up with memorable nicknames based on avatars. That might be easier than numbering everyone.

That would help me a lot. Can we do this?

Me. It hit me wrong.

What about it? You think it was overly conciliatory?

Let's let the lady speak without supplying her with answers.

The first few posts by Lady 4 are unreadable nonsense designed to bog us down in busiwork. She takes an awkward defending angle on Lady 5 too, when most felt the smiles were fake.

Then, we look at the substance of her posts later today.

Spoiler: Recent Lady 4

I reread Lady 8. A few brownie points, but I'm not crazy about her or anything.

I'm coming around on L7.

G6 possibly changing his mind is most of the reason I havent accepted my offer.

If that's a setup for a future push it's the shittiest, bluntest one I've ever seen.

*shrug* Figures that the slots I suggest have wierd posts call me arrogant and use general labels such as "scumposting" rather than reply to my observations or request clarification (like gentleman 5 does). This is particularly useful since you only wanted to use a widely accepted dance pairing.

Scumposting

AtE yes. Aggressive yes. Buddying yes

Scumposting? Im not seeing it, my herbivore friend.

I partly posted that because I thought the attitude might be annoyed at being called out for the wrong reasons, but mostly I posted it to be snarky.

Most of Lady 4's posting is focused on shading players, rather than sorting them. Town look to narrow their focus to find scum. She's taking a buckshot to townreads, particularly unpaired women.

This suggests my pool might not be 100% correct though. Yet G4 and L4 may not be partners. I'm still sorting that.

[Lady 6]

Holy forkballs!

I like you just for this.

*jumps into pocket*

I gotta go now.

[Lady 6]

Am I ethically required to pretend that I don't know that having really bad takes isn't a scumtell for L6?

so you wanna hear something fun? The last alt game I played at my homesite rip every single person decided they knew at least one other person's alt and gave them a meta town read. Some of them were wrong about their alt guess. A couple were wrong about the meta they decided on.

Like i realize you think you know half the people here, you think you know who I am, which if you really knew anything about me you'd not call me out for the crap you have, but even so this is an alt game. I don't know anyone here and due to above I don't trust whatever little things you think you know about someone else. But again even so this is an alt game. Kindly act like it.

(I'm sorry if this is harsh I've had a couple to drink, and I'm a little annoyed that you tried to make me feel guilty.)

I like you particularly the last paragraph. The narrative building isn't wrong. I build narratives to see if my reads make sense.

Gentleman 6, I feel the same way about you. I think quite a few people are mistaking early volume for towniness. Towniness includes both trying to lynch scum and unify town. The sad thing is I feel pretty resigned to a toen mislynch here. Likely mine because people value their perceptions over blunt accurate discussion.

[Lady 6]

You're fine. Lady 3 is being painful.

Glad you're coming around.

[Lady 6]

I kinda get the impression that town's running away with townreads and she's playing fixer and pushing down slots that would otherwise eventually PoE out scum.

I hope this isn't right. I felt off about L7 earlier but I like her recent posting.

[Lady 6]

Like g3 if you and l6 are scum together I think the two if you would demolish this town and I kinda hunk you’ve been holding off waiting for her to post so that you could ask her to dance. I think all you need to do is find someone you can make it past intermission with, you seem town enough, let her do al, the pushing and the work and profit

Because really what are you waiting for.

I already asked him to dance awhile ago and was active. If this was the case, he would have offered ages ago.

Also, what makes you think I'd steamroll anyone as any alignment with how little charisma I have?

This feels like an assumption based off meta rather than an actual position.

[Lady 6]

Why do you scumread L6?

I'm interested in this L7. You seem to have missed or skipped this.

[Lady 6]

Spoiler: Historical quotes for G3 could ask ages ago

because I want to pair with someone who wants to pair with me,

I would pair with you.

You think Lady 6 is townposting?

No, that was a response to 1142 about L7.

Why do the cute ones not like me?

Pretty sure that's another one way situation.

Why do you not like G3?

[Lady 6]

L5 is the only person who's put an ounce of thought into what will happen after I pair.

Everyone else refuses to do it and is just saying "make a decision already" without telling me how they will respond to what decision I make, as though I don't deserve to know that in order to factor it into my decision.

What? You think I haven't? I've been trying to get your attention for ages.

[Lady 6]

What? You think I haven't? I've been trying to get your attention for ages.

Link? If you did, sorry, I missed it.

Post 1122 and quoted again on this page.

[Lady 6]

I think there is a reason why you havent picked L5.

Is it because you dont townread her, or because you both are scum?

Why are you indirectly shading and pressuring G3 rather than just outright stating you think he should partner with L5?

[Lady 6]

Post 1122 and quoted again on this page.

That's just saying you would pair with me, not what you would do after we pair.

Tbh, I'd just be attempting to persuade people on who scum are. We'd probably discuss the L5 read as she's in my scumpool. I'd hope we'd come to a consensus eventually but I tend to like strong players who form their own opinions.

[Lady 6]

Looks like L5 isn't townread enough for that pairing to work.

I'm gonna take a shower and then reread L2 and L6 and ask one or both of them.

Just a heads up. Your first ask is locked.

[Lady 6]

I want L2 and L6 to weigh in on this when they get a chance. To both of you, if I pair with you, how will you go about trying to read me? What will you do if you scumread me? What will you do if I scumread you?

If I scumread you and you TR me, I'd talk to you heavily. If you were scum, you'd lead me to partners. If last scum alive, self wagon. If it was a mutual scumread, we'd definitely self wagon. I like talkers to be my good partners.

If you scumread me, I'd surmount anyway. If townreading you, I'd attempt to persuade you I'm town by my actions.

I came here to play under an alt, not ragequit and throw a tantrum.

[Lady 6]

Do you really think that it doesn't matter who you pair with if you will not make it to end game?

Yes.

Gentleman 4 is anti-town. Ignore him. Play your own game.

Side note: Gentleman 8 might be scum but Lady 7 should accept his proposal anyway.

[Lady 6]

At least G3 is sticking to his guns, even though they are weird and bad guns.

That's actually a really good way to describe me, lmao.

That's why I feel G3 and I are kindred spirits. We are both open, honest and stubborn.

[Lady 6]

That is to say I would like to hear much more from Gentleman 8, and I, too, will be severely disappointed if this is all he has to offer today.

What, exactly, would you like me to offer? I'm not reading 60 pages of nonsense pregame.

If you didn't read, how did you propose to L7? How would you have known to?

[Lady 6]

That is to say I would like to hear much more from Gentleman 8, and I, too, will be severely disappointed if this is all he has to offer today.

What, exactly, would you like me to offer? I'm not reading 60 pages of nonsense pregame.

If you didn't read, how did you propose to L7? How would you have known to?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Well, follow the implication of if he's scum to it's conclusion. Why L7 over L5 L6 (me) or L1?

I am a firm believer L1 should sit based on this.
L5 is the easy mislynch in this setup.
Then picking between L6 and me, L7 is further from being correct.

[Lady 6]

I actually think Lady 5 might be town now but I don't like her give me what I want or I sub out attitude.

[Lady 6]

If I can I’ll get an actual lady to sub into this slot.

Or even

@Mod

Is Hydra allowed?

You can't do this without discussing ongoing games as you might out someone as in the game or not in the game. It defeats the point.

[Lady 6]

Yeah I’ll get her to replace in if she’s willing.

This sounds like discussing on-going games outside of the game thread.

First thing we agree on all thread. :/

[Lady 6]

Bullshit. You bc can do it.

I think I know who L5 is and who he'd invite. :/

[Lady 6]

he'd

Wait if we can do alternate genders Im pissed FG didnt give me a lady slot.

I requested the last slot in the game to get going.

Just roll with it. Save the anger for G4 L1 L4 and G8.

[Lady 6]

he'd

Wait if we can do alternate genders Im pissed FG didnt give me a lady slot.

I requested the last slot in the game to get going.

Just roll with it. Save the anger for G4 L1 L4 and G8.

Forgot L3 here.

[Lady 6]

Bullshit. You bc can do it.

I think I know who L5 is and who he'd invite. :/

I highly doubt you know this person.

I am her sooo.... Just play the game. Either town it up so you can partner with G3 or take your shot.

I'm trying to do both.

[Lady 6]

Do you people not understand the point of an alt game?

Do you understand scumhunting? Town blocking?

[Lady 6]

Lady 1, you seem to have plenty of time to needle Lady 5 but no time to answer the question regarding which single gentleman you prefer.

[Lady 6]

That is to say I would like to hear much more from Gentleman 8, and I, too, will be severely disappointed if this is all he has to offer today.

What, exactly, would you like me to offer? I'm not reading 60 pages of nonsense pregame.

If you didn't read, how did you propose to L7? How would you have known to?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Well, follow the implication of if he's scum to it's conclusion. Why L7 over L5 L6 (me) or L1?

I am a firm believer L1 should sit based on this.
L5 is the easy mislynch in this setup.
Then picking between L6 and me, L7 is further from being correct.

L6, can you explain this post for why I should sit? I do not understand the reasoning behind this post.

If G8 is randomly picking, why not just pick the first single lady. She's his partner.

[Lady 6]

I must retire for a bit. Shame G1 just showed.

[Lady 6]

That is to say I would like to hear much more from Gentleman 8, and I, too, will be severely disappointed if this is all he has to offer today.

What, exactly, would you like me to offer? I'm not reading 60 pages of nonsense pregame.

If you didn't read, how did you propose to L7? How would you have known to?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Well, follow the implication of if he's scum to it's conclusion. Why L7 over L5 L6 (me) or L1?

I am a firm believer L1 should sit based on this.
L5 is the easy mislynch in this setup.
Then picking between L6 and me, L7 is further from being correct.

L6, can you explain this post for why I should sit? I do not understand the reasoning behind this post.

If G8 is randomly picking, why not just pick the first single lady. She's his partner.

How do you know he is randomly picking?

He's not. That's the point of the post.

[Lady 6]

I'd like a counter for the number of players Lady 6 thinks are scum. Right now we're at 7 and rising.

Lady 6 your approach to the game is and has been a bit ridiculous. Please re-examine.

No.

G4 L4 L3 L1 G1 and G8 is my scumpool. We're at 6 and falling. I eliminated L5.

[Lady 6]

I'd like a counter for the number of players Lady 6 thinks are scum. Right now we're at 7 and rising.

Lady 6 your approach to the game is and has been a bit ridiculous. Please re-examine.

No.

G4 L4 L3 L1 G1 and G8 is my scumpool. We're at 6 and falling. I eliminated L5.

So you don't think Lady 7 is Gentleman 8's partner?

No.

[Lady 6]

Explain this, then please.

If G8 is randomly picking, why not just pick the first single lady. She's his partner.

Context. G8 avoided his partner L1. That's why she should be single.

[Lady 6]

VLA until Tuesday

[Lady 6]

Hit or miss. Earlier the better.

Mod: I auto accept any dance offer if legal.

[Lady 6]

Is Lady 5 the consensus leave out?

No. I want L1 left out.

[Lady 6]

I really only dislike Lady 4 in that setup. I am not a fan of trading all those people unless I had no choice.

[Lady 6]

I'm saying that you're scum and I'm kinda done wasting my time trying to convince you of it.

I doubt L5 is scum very much. I have to prepare for reality now though. I'll check in as much as I can though.

G8, L1 and one more in G4, L3, and L4 and G1. That's your pool. If it's not in that list, I don't want to lynch it.

[Lady 6]

At this point I hope G6 flips scum because hes acting like a hardheaded dick.

Stop this. He has every right to pursue his reads, even if wrong.

[Lady 6]

FakeGod, can we get a deadline or are we halted over replacements?

All replacements have been filled.

Pre-dance lasts 8 days. (count from post #1)

What happens if a Gentleman does not ask someone? Do all partnerless players die?

[Lady 6]

In 17 hours or less, I will lack internet access until EoD. I'll be here sparingly until then. Please keep the post count low.

[Lady 6]

What happens if a Gentleman does not ask someone? Do all partnerless players die?

Yes.

Can I auto accept any invitation?

[Lady 6]

Can I auto accept any invitation?

Sure.

Great, I do that. VLA until Monday evening.

[Lady 6]

L1 why are you so insistent that I sit out? Seems quite reactionary and desperate.

[Lady 6]

G5 is scum for more than his lack of townreads and his reluctance to dole out townreads, which is why I am spiritually voting him.

If I don't survive, can you table your battle with G5 and L5 until G1 G8 and L1 die? I think scum are in a hell of a predicament here if my gut instinct is correct.

If G3 partners with L5 that will leave G1 and G8 alive. One would partner with L1 and the other would let me die by partnering with L2.

If this setup happens, lynch L1 asap please. Then go to your silly squabbles.

[Lady 6]

I still think G4 might be scum with G8/G1 and L1 but that could be my pet reads.

[Lady 6]

Hmph.

Lady 5, I can't believe you are this clueless. (More disbelief than a scumread.)

G5/G6 for the love that is good and holy, stop fighting. Work together until you cannot. You're both talkative. Claim you're using each other for associative reads.

[Lady 6]

Did you maybe scum slip RN and your a Team with Lady 6 and you know their real account?

I've been saying that I know people's mains this entire game. I hinted at knowing Firebringer after like his first post by calling him "intimidating" (ie, Arcanine's ability)

Why is this one a scumslip?

Dude, I'm not exactly subtle. I tried to hide it but anyone can ID me by speech patterns and real life if familiar with me.

[Lady 6]

I think Lady 6's real account has already been made ridiculously obvious by now.

Unfortunately I concur although I tried to be within the game rules.

[Lady 6]

Did you maybe scum slip RN and your a Team with Lady 6 and you know their real account?

I've been saying that I know people's mains this entire game. I hinted at knowing Firebringer after like his first post by calling him "intimidating" (ie, Arcanine's ability)

Why is this one a scumslip?

Dude, I'm not exactly subtle. I tried to hide it but anyone can ID me by speech patterns and real life if familiar with me.

No one can alt read me unless your a certain someone which I have reason to believe Gent 5 is that certain someone and I can’t believe I was actually considering partnering with him when we would disagree on things like crazy.

I had you pegged on like page 3 with the overuse of the smiles. The hydra partner comment, the dude comment also suggested it.

There's one other person you might be. But that's a long shot.

[Lady 6]

Can we get L5 modkilled?

I feel that would solve alot of problems

This type of request should be PMed privately with reasons to avoid modgaming.

[Lady 6]

Let's just have people ask when they get on.

[Lady 6]

Okay everylady except lady 2 has turned on auto invite and lady 2 should def turn on auto invite

reading consensus: Gentleman picks should be

3 picks his lady first
1 picks his lady next
8 picks the lady at the end

It's posts like this that make me scumread you. I think G8 and L1 are partners and you're suggesting that G8 (a guy who never shows) have control on who dies between the last two people.

[Lady 6]

okay cool but he does have control

In your setup, yes.

He picks between two ladies. One lives. One dies.

[Lady 6]

He's going to have control either way, Lady 6. Lady 3's post is literally just a copy of the order several other Gentleman have proposed multiple times today, just emboldened and enlarged.

I am beginning to think you are a town pig. You just can't resist rolling in mud. Jesus Christ.

We don't need an order. We need proposals.

[Lady 6]

Lady 6 stop calling people names and just play mafia.

I didn't call you a name anymore than you saying I lack awareness for stating the obvious. The last proposed gets to pick who lives and dies. That is the most control, not least.

[Lady 6]

P-Edit I wonder if FG even accepts that

It was not intended as a Moderator-processable custom auto-accept request. It is a declaration to the other players in this game of my intentions. Unlike some of the other Ladies, I will not be V/LA during the critical period and I can contribute to promoting our preferred order of invitations by the three remaining Gentlemen by

not

requesting an auto-accept from the Moderator at this time.

Excuse me? You think I want to be VLA during this time?

[Lady 6]

@Gentleman4, I don't know. I have told you to quit being bad and you double down saying I'm bad. Take your own medicine and please be quiet so the last three gentlemen propose.

[Lady 6]

L5 can you please be quiet aside from a final reads list? You're pissing people off making it less likely you will get a partner.

[Lady 6]

If Lady 1 were to get left out.
I don’t want Gent 3 to pair with Lady 6 in case Lady 1 is right and Lady 6 is scum.
I’d rather them go with Lady 2 if I can’t go with them as I have faith Lady 2 is Town.

So the town tower can be as follow:
Gent 2 and Lady 9
Gent 4 and Lady 3
Gent 3 and Lady 2

You my dear are being incredibly frustrating.

I'm taking my cookies and going to bed. I may or may not be on again before Tuesday.

[Lady 6]

Well, you can always come and talk to me....after this weekend. I'm on auto accept all proposals. Deadline is coming up real soon, otherwise I wouldn't rush it.

[Lady 6]

I already have auto accept on, but for the record, I merrily accept.

Maybe after the tango, we can waltz.

[Lady 6]

VOTE: Gentleman 8

I am not encouraging this pissing match unless I got no choice.

[Lady 6]

Look, let's get rid of the obvious scum in G8. Sorry for L5 but G8 is kinda obvious scum. I think overall people will be happy with it and G5 and G6 can work together.

[Lady 6]

Look, let's get rid of the obvious scum in G8. Sorry for L5 but G8 is kinda obvious scum. I think overall people will be happy with it and G5 and G6 can work together.

[Lady 6]

PT's pretty much dead as of now. I'm just starting to throw some thoughts in there but I think L6 just hasn't been around.

I'm here now. I've got paperwork today but I will check in periodically. Don't feel bad leaving notes. I'll read them before catching up with the thread as a whole.

[Lady 6]

he disappears after the attention is off of him until I bring up suspicion of him again, at which point he fails to address any concerns and disappears into the blue.

Hi, not my job to address your vague concerns, but it is my job to answer questions, which nobody asked me last night?

I've already said I have no interest in getting involved with the shit fights today. I also have no interest in deciding which of the pairs that we're definitely going to lynch we should lynch first. But I also don't think we should discuss endgame pairings before intermission...

So that pretty much means shutting up and voting.

This is pretty much undeniably a scum post, like a lot of his other posts. I'm not really sure why people are defending him, you don't even really have to look.

That's how I feel about your ISO.

If you have no intention on aiding shit fights, and you think G8 is obvscum, stop trying to kill me by proxy. Thanks.

[Lady 6]

Town G8 doesn’t choose L2.
Scum G8 chooses Town L2.
Scum G8 doesn’t choose Scum L2.

There!
It’s more clear now!

if you believe that

vote me

No one gives a fuck when I give a reason. Ill just tell it to the wall.

This can only be said for show. Seems fake.

Shade I know. Just call me littlefinger its all I do apparently

Then we flip G8 and then look. We don't do L2 first.

[Lady 6]

The rationalization that you're scum depends on G8 scum, so no.

[Lady 6]

What if the scumteam is G1 G4 and G8?

G6 can you link your path to victory? I'm working 12 hour days until the weekend.

[Lady 6]

VOTE: Gentleman 8

Hey, I recommended stopping bitch fights. Can we lynch the scum I am recommending now?

[Lady 6]

I don't think L5 has an interest to regardless of her alignment. L5's push back is survivalistic. The G5 G6 fight was secondary to the push on G8 which did get traction somewhat yesterday. Today, people forget G8 exists. Lady 5 picking fights, regardless of her alignment does something for someone.

I'm not opposed to a G1 lynch but I'm strongly in favor of a G8 lynch. So was G5 before he was shot.

[Lady 6]

L6 is most likely scum trying to avoid getting the pair of G1/L2 lynched.

If L6 is scum their wincon is certainly not to keep the scum in G1/L2 alive to endgame. Scum have no incentive to keep each other alive here. What they have an incentive to do is to avoid creating any associatives.

+1

[Lady 6]

VoteCount 1.3

Gentleman 2 - Lady 9 [0] -
Gentleman 4 - Lady 3 [0] -
Gentleman 5 - Lady 4 [5] -

Gentleman 6,

Lady 5, Lady 9, Lady 2,

Gentleman 2

Gentleman 6 - Lady 8 [0] -
Gentleman 7 - Lady 7 [0] -
Gentleman 3 - Lady 6 [1] - Gentleman 4
Gentleman 8 - Lady 5 [5] - Lady 6, Gentleman 7,

Gentleman 5, Lady 3, Lady 4

Gentleman 1 - Lady 2 [0] -

Not Voting [6]

- Gentleman 1, Gentleman 3,

Gentleman 6

, Gentleman 8, Lady 7, Lady 8

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch

.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-11-19 02:34:47)

[Lady 6]

@L6 want to respond to my posts?
Or would you rather just stand there looking pretty?

The situation here is annoying. You completely sidestepped my reasoning for scumreading G8. Instead, you've been begging for a replacement for this slot and your own. You could have left the dance if you felt G8 was scum avoiding the thread. You're putting in zero effort on sorting it. Your posts look more motivated to survive.

The insistence that I am somehow dodging your posts here with less than 24 hours is also problematic. It reeks of you spamming the thread so people think T v T or somehow I'm a problem.

I already laid out why I prefer G8 to G1. Nothing has happened to change that.

[Lady 6]

Oooh oook.

VC please

[Lady 6]

I am also willing to move to G8, the longer this crap goes on the longer I can't believe he might be town somehow.

Can you vote G8? Save the mod the hassle?

[Lady 6]

We are in a really difficult situation. L5 creeps me out. Despite being a confirmed replacement, the tone is eerily similar. I really detest the fact both G6 and G5 died. I really don't like leading early but I feel compelled to take charge here.

Lady 7, I know you didn't like how I phrased things. There's not much I can do on that. The only thing that can be done is continuing to scumhunt. The feeling on you is mutual, but I think you're likely town. If I knew your main, I could assess much easier if the collective was correct on you.

[Lady 6]

We are in a really difficult situation. L5 creeps me out. Despite being a confirmed replacement, the tone is eerily similar. I really detest the fact both G6 and G5 died. I really don't like leading early but I feel compelled to take charge here.

Lady 7, I know you didn't like how I phrased things. There's not much I can do on that. The only thing that can be done is continuing to scumhunt. The feeling on you is mutual, but I think you're likely town. If I knew your main, I could assess much easier if the collective was correct on you.

Is the second half to me?

I know it says l7, but you addressed me earlier about something that wasn’t about me so I’m not sure.

It is.

[Lady 6]

Should I leave?

No.

We need to lynch Lady 5 and G8.

VOTE: Lady 5/G8

[Lady 6]

L9 scum. I don't see why scum wouldn't kill this pair if it was two townies.

This is from confscum G2. Stay and help me please.

[Lady 6]

Agreed. I also think that if G8 was scum, he wouldn't go and ask L7 if she was also scum in that situation.

More confscum defending G8

[Lady 6]

L5 Town. This is also because of finding out the original player's identity, which I feel a bit dirty about, but while her opinions had been bad, I think they had been honest and consistent with this player's meta.
G8 ??? I don't think anything at this stage can convince me one way or another and I don't really want to have the game hinge on a coin toss on if he's town or scum.

Oh more G8 should live but not town. G8 says L9 should be the last scum to die too.

G7 wanted g2 and l9 paranoia to the end.

[Lady 6]

G7, what the hell information do you take away from a G8/L5 lynch if they flip T-T?

Right now, I'm seeing that in order for us to win, the pairs that need to go are G1/L2, G2/L9, and G8/L5. Right now, I'm assuming these are all pairs that are T/S, rather than there being any S/S pairs in there.

Among those, I'm the most unsure on G8, as he's hardly posted. And I don't believe I'm wrong on more than on 1 pair. Now, if they were to flip T/T, then it means that there's scum within G3/L6 and me/L7, or there's an S/S pair somewhere. So it would give more time for other townies to react and give their opinions on things, since they're not dead.

On the other hand, if we flip say you and G1 and it becomes T/S, it's not going to really change my strategy (same if G8/L5 is T/S). So I think that if I'm wrong, this gives me more information than doing things in the other order.

G8/L5 is possibly S/S based on this post.

[Lady 6]

Gentleman 1 - Lady 2 [3] - Lady 7, Lady 5, Gentleman 7

G7 voting here seems to soft clear it a bit, no?

I kinda like G1's recent posting and the fact that pair was the counter to obvscum. You could argue soft clear here but bussing is a thing and that is the bus zone. Wagonomics has not been certified for dance games.

[Lady 6]

I'll just point this out now.

Isn't it quite strange that flipped scum was so willing to put this pairing so close to a lynch when our pairing and G1/L2 were on the chopping block for the next lynches, yet L6 suddenly comes out aggressively once it starts being a possibility that those same two pairings might be the final two?

I've been pushing G1 and G8 since predance.

[Lady 6]

It fits my paranoia bias that L5/G8 is T-T. Still reading.

Looking back, G7 did push the G8 scum -> L2 scum thing during first dance while hard pushing L5/G8 as first lynch. That does largely rule out G8/G1 as remaining scum team here. If G8 is in fact scum, G7 does not really want to lynch G8 and have him flip scum for the privilege of being able to lynch me and get G1-scum flipped in the bargain.

Okay need to head out, more later.

You and I are reading different threads and I quoted several of G8's posts that oppose that.

[Lady 6]

So you agree with me that G1/L2 should be the endgame pairing?

Hell no. G2 and L9 should be. G3 and I as backups.

[Lady 6]

My goodness. This game is fucking over.

Town can't see G7 was bussing. G8 had the scummiest picks.

L5 is replaced and follows the same script.
G8 still does nothing.

Holy fuck.

[Lady 6]

L6 how confident are you that L9 is town?

95%

G1 and G8 pairings have both scum. I'd bet my life on it.

[Lady 6]

I'm sorry G7 flips scum and it does nothing for your reads??? Not that you posted anything about G7 before he flipped so

And almost nothing to L7 except treating her as likely Town for a good chunk of the game

Correct. I've always been adamant that G1 and G8 were scum and the last slot was ???.

I might just leave the dance if we won't lynch either of those pairs because there's a theoretical chance of listening when I'm dead.

[Lady 6]

I might just leave the dance if we won't lynch either of those pairs because there's a theoretical chance of listening when I'm dead.

Screw that shit. You have a vote. Use it.

My vote has been on G8 and L5 since Day 1

[Lady 6]

So try to convince other people to vote with you.

That's what I've been doing...since day 1.

[Lady 6]

I really don't see why G8 can't be town.

The pairing pick, the first G8 doing nothing and G7 defending it in his iso, the second g8 doing fuck all

[Lady 6]

Leave Dance

I am done with stupid.

[Lady 6]

Not impulse. I warned you. You never voted scum and never will. Us getting lynched loses if you're town. Leaving prolongs the day.

[Lady 6]

Every single thing you just said there was wrong.

Absolutely incorrect. You are so incompetent that you can't even see I've been pushing scum for days.

Second, why would scum ever push on the town in an S/T pair in a dance? They wouldn't.

You felt pity for L5 and G8. It blinded you.

I can't overcome incompetence when we need nearly every town on a wagon.

[Lady 6]

You make it impossible to build a coalition by listening to scum, so I can never trust you. Period.

[Lady 6]

You didn't warn me, either. You made a vague threat, that's not the same as saying "Hey G3, I'm gonna leave by X time, get in any last words before I do."

Oh I'm sorry. Is this my day job where I needed to file a motion to the clerk?

[Lady 6]

Absolutely incorrect. You are so incompetent that you can't even see I've been pushing scum for days.

If nobody agrees with you, what's more likely... that they're all bad at listening, or that you are bad at explaining?

All the town that did listen are dead so bad at listening at best.

[Lady 6]

I'm done. Town deserves to lose. I never should have been Wagoner or suspected.

Either lynch scum or lose. I'm done caring.

[Lady 6]

You make it impossible to build a coalition by listening to scum, so I can never trust you. Period.

What are you even talking about, how can you know who I am trusting when I don't even know who I'm trusting?

The only other people who agreed with you that I had any suspicion are the scumpool.

[Lady 6]

All the town that did listen are dead so bad at listening at best.

Gee I wonder why that is

MAYBE BECAUSE THEY ALL LEFT FOR STUPID REASONS.

They left because no one joined me in telling them to knock off the bullshit.

But hey, I don't have 257754 hours a day so that's my fault.

[Lady 6]

Man after all this I STILL don't think L9 is town.

And this is why I left.

This game you are too dumb to get a say