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This lady seems like they rolled town. I hope they get asked to the dance.In post 53, Lady 9 wrote:
Be the change you wish to see!In post 39, Lady 4 wrote:
That would help me a lot. Can we do this?In post 35, Lady 9 wrote:
We could come up with memorable nicknames based on avatars. That might be easier than numbering everyone.In post 32, Lady 4 wrote:Hello. I wish we had more memorable names.
By the way, I was serious about my town read on Lady 7. Just off the first page she immediately comes off as much more carefree and unconcerned about self-image in her tone. Dawn's memey posting seems a lot more forced by comparison. Lady 5/Dawn why did you ignore #30?
Misty can join my early early town leans too.
I think overall her posting has been forced and that post in particular was too concerned with how people view her slot. Townies can read like that sometimes but it's more often a scum trait,In post 51, Gentleman 3 wrote:
What about it? You think it was overly conciliatory?In post 50, Lady 7 wrote:Me. It hit me wrong.especiallyin the early game where establishing yourself can be awkward.- Lady 8
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Why would you make this post?In post 34, Lady 5 wrote:
<_> Lady 3 rolled Neutral.In post 25, Lady 3 wrote:Lady 5 rolled scum tbh- Lady 8
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Your avatar.... hmm...In post 80, Gentleman 6 wrote:I think Lady 8 seems really cute, I'm not sure what it says about her alignment.
I'll keep thoughts about this till after the game.- Lady 8
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Reminds me of someone (not the Doctor).In post 85, Lady 5 wrote:
^_^ What’s wrong with it?In post 82, Lady 8 wrote:
Your avatar.... hmm...In post 80, Gentleman 6 wrote:I think Lady 8 seems really cute, I'm not sure what it says about her alignment.
I'll keep thoughts about this till after the game.- Lady 8
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It seems initially scummy and lessens your chances of getting asked to the dance because it seems like you're afraid of engaging in a read of a player.In post 81, Lady 5 wrote:
Because I wanted to joke around! “_”In post 77, Lady 8 wrote:
Why would you make this post?In post 34, Lady 5 wrote:
<_> Lady 3 rolled Neutral.In post 25, Lady 3 wrote:Lady 5 rolled scum tbh- Lady 8
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That assumes it is a joke.In post 96, Gentleman 3 wrote:
Why does a joke suggest that she's afraid of making a read?In post 92, Lady 8 wrote:It seems initially scummy and lessens your chances of getting asked to the dance because it seems like you're afraid of engaging in a read of a player.- Lady 8
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I actually don't think it's scum indicative but I feel like it could of been interpreted as one.In post 98, Lady 5 wrote:
Well if the post came off scummy that’s entirely your point of view! ^_^
I seen it as a joke.
I didn’t think they were serious of their read so I didn’t feel a reason to take it seriously.
^_^
My bad if it came up bad, don’t shade me though based off of that.
Every Lady has an equal chance to get asked out! ^_^- Lady 8
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Nevermind.In post 104, Gentleman 3 wrote:
She literally just said it was...In post 99, Lady 8 wrote:That assumes it is a joke.
I was referencing that if she was scum, it would of been a nice cover up.- Lady 8
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Partially correct. I would argue that strong scum hunters and players with huge ego care about getting town read more.In post 109, Gentleman 6 wrote:
I interpret that apathy as townie. I think that scum care a lot more about getting town read than town do right now.In post 102, Lady 9 wrote:
The question isn't directed at me, but I want to point out that it seems to me like Lady 5 is specifically avoiding making non-joke posts. She's ignored my more serious posts twice now. Joking is fine but she doesn't have any non-jokey content yet.In post 96, Gentleman 3 wrote:
Why does a joke suggest that she's afraid of making a read?In post 92, Lady 8 wrote:It seems initially scummy and lessens your chances of getting asked to the dance because it seems like you're afraid of engaging in a read of a player.- Lady 8
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Neutral is synonymous with null I would argue.In post 106, Lady 5 wrote:
Do you actually think I’m that stupid to believe a Neutral exists in this setup?In post 99, Lady 8 wrote:
That assumes it is a joke.In post 96, Gentleman 3 wrote:
Why does a joke suggest that she's afraid of making a read?In post 92, Lady 8 wrote:It seems initially scummy and lessens your chances of getting asked to the dance because it seems like you're afraid of engaging in a read of a player.- Lady 8
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Sure. Should we go for optimal pairings or just wing it?In post 122, Lady 9 wrote:
I think that's an oversimplification of the discussion. But anyway, offer something else to talk about if you have a problem with it.In post 120, Lady 8 wrote:Why are we arguing whether smiley faces are AI?
I'm not used to anon games so it's taking a bit of time to get used to it. But yes, I agree with your assessment on Lady 5.In post 124, Gentleman 6 wrote:I agree that town carry playstyles will also want to show themselves to be town quickly.
But I don't think that avoiding serious talk in the early game when prompted to is a scumtell and I would lean it and Lady 5 the other way.- Lady 8
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I'm more analytical on alts and anon accounts or try to be.In post 127, Lady 4 wrote:@Lady 9 (My nicknames aren't going to stick, are they? I'm getting used to it.)
You may hate this, as you seem like an analytical player, but I buy these as genuinely at ease posts. Specifically, 21 and 24, and now 84 as well. I like 106 too, as the tonal slip speaks of someone who's not overthinking their posts.
Because I've been already talking about other stuff in my ISO. It's also best to get these mechanical discussions out of the way as early as possible.In post 128, Lady 7 wrote:But l8 is there a reason you opted for a mechanical discussion rather than what’s gone on yet?
I am not that certain type of player and I understand where you're coming from but I wanted to ask regardless.Gentleman 6 wrote:I want no part of a version of the game where certain player types dictate pairings and no one else actually plays mafia.- Lady 8
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Let me cut to the chase, we only need ONE solid T-T pairing at late game to win after intermission.In post 142, Lady 9 wrote:In post 134, Gentleman 3 wrote:I mean the key is to make T/T pairings. If flips make a difference in how likely a pairing is to be T/T, then sure, but I'm wary of that because scum have pretty much no incentive to avoid bussing, so associatives will probably not be helpful.
I don't think that's necessarily true? Especially if town manages to play well enough to force an S/S pairing, bussing isn't necessarily an optimal strategy for scum.In post 137, Lady 4 wrote:
The possibility you may be correct about this has me shook.In post 134, Gentleman 3 wrote:I'm wary of that because scum have pretty much no incentive to avoid bussing, so associatives will probably not be helpful.- Lady 8
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This is interesting go on...In post 141, Gentleman 6 wrote:I'm confused as to why you townread Lady 4 because I think she's been the only person I outright scumread so far.- Lady 8
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No. This is extremely bad. Burn this post.In post 147, Lady 5 wrote:Looking at the setup.
Isn’t it ideal for Gentleman 2 to choose a Lady that could be a Wolf.
That way they can’t kill him if they are a wolf or their lady partner dies.
On the other hand if they aren’t a wolf they just got rid of a miss Lynch target.
If I was Gentleman 2, my ideal play would be to do this. ^_^- Lady 8
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I think your thought process is towny.In post 175, Gentleman 6 wrote:I only take this much issue with gut reads when I think that they're scummy and I think that there's a certain kind of defensiveness in your response to me that makes me think that you're even more scummy.
This is, like, an extremely common thing for scum to do?I think reads off tone are a more player-specific thing than AI thing. It's the way they arrive at that read that's AI.
In this case, Lady 4 came into a game state where most people were skeptical about Lady 5, and that kind of going-against-consensus even though the player clearly cares about being conciliatory strikes me a more likely townie read.
Why?In post 204, Gentleman 4 wrote:I like lady 9s avatar
Therefore lady 9 is town
Am I doing this right?
I like meat lovers. Also I slightly town read you.In post 224, Gentleman 4 wrote:First order of business:
I am buying this town a pizza!!!!
What you want on your pizza?
If any of you say anchovies you might as well claim scum now
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I like this from you though! I know the feeling. I'd say try to just let it go and let the thread take you where it will. If you're town, you'll find something to latch onto to get you into the game eventually, but worrying about what that'll be won't really help.In post 244, Lady 2 wrote:I probably wouldn't like me either, and I know it, and it's really gnawing at me. Something isn't gelling. I want to be engaging here. Like genuinely I do. But it's not working, apparently. Like it's apparent even to me that I'm trying to say something but I get passed right by, like a ghost.
Agreed.In post 262, Gentleman 5 wrote:
I don't particularly like this slotIn post 244, Lady 2 wrote:
Could have fooled me. I think you might make a fine one. Maybe at an ordinary dance you wouldn't. But tonight you're wearing the mask. Why not go for it?In post 211, Gentleman 6 wrote:I'm not a town leader type.
Fair. I probably wouldn't like me either, and I know it, and it's really gnawing at me. Something isn't gelling. I want to be engaging here. Like genuinely I do. But it's not working, apparently. Like it's apparent even to me that I'm trying to say something but I get passed right by, like a ghost. Maybe it's posting while working, here and there, while other people are managing to have actual back-and-forth conversations.In post 217, Lady 9 wrote:I do not like Lady 2.
Like L9, G3, L7, G6 are all sensible. L5 is ... fine. Can stay. L4 ... feels kind of like I do? I mean at the very least I'm sympathetic to her early frustration due to distraction and/or generic names. I'm not sure about her backing down immediately and completely after tbh a mild riposte from G3 early (I'm rereading, because yeah, I need to find some kind of foothold). Like, whatever it is, it's a firmer backing up than necessary but probably NAI. L8, kind of a low-key entrance as well? I'm not really getting much there. I do feel like trending Townread on L5 is a fake unpopular opinion? Like I don't think it was every truly going against the grain?
Mostly I want to know how L4 reads G6.
Oh, G4 also kind of lower bracket. Actually scratch that, I like him taking the offered mantle as Town leader. That's actually quite fine. Same with early offer. Actually even better. I saw the jokey pizza post and was wondering how long that shtick would take to play out. Moving fast on an offer was a strong Town move, like he stepped up to the plate and then actually delivered. Good choice of initial offer, too. L3 was in early but did and said little. G4's offer will offer some focus in a new direction.
I do actually like the broad strokes of the treanding-towards-consensus reads I'm seeing. I actually like all the active gentlemen fairly well, G3, G4, and G6 all Townleaning for me.- Lady 8
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I think there's a good chance Gent 1 is town but that doesn't mean we'll be a powerhouse.In post 548, Lady 5 wrote:If both Gent 1 and Lady 8 are town.
They will by far be the power house town needs to win.- Lady 8
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You should try to pick someone who you feel confident going to end game with.In post 623, Gentleman 6 wrote:I guess I'll be honest.
Truth is I'm not entirely sure that she's town and I think that if she is I'll be 100% sure to see it In a hood and if she's not I think I'll see it as well.- Lady 8
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My reads are generally bad till late game.In post 670, Gentleman 2 wrote:Idk if L8 is scum or if I just disagree with everything they post?- Lady 8
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Hi, I'm catching up. The site has been really bad lately so it's hard to load pages.
Do you actually have reasoning for this? I'd like to at least play First Dance before dying.In post 783, Gentleman 5 wrote: Without stating reasons at this time, I think either L8 or L5 shouldnt be dancing.- Lady 8
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Is this a town-slip? All of dance games have been 1:2 or 2:1 for scum ratios.In post 800, Gentleman 5 wrote:
Again, I think its better not to out town reads until we dance, as we have to factor the pairs.In post 795, Gentleman 7 wrote:
Wait, why is outing townreads a bad idea? I'm of the opinion that we should get a strong towncore--of course, this does depend on our ability to keep scum out. I don't really see the advantage of hiding them?In post 785, Gentleman 5 wrote:Personally, I feel outting townreads are a bad idea until dance time, but thats just me?We can only scumhunt in ladies right now and theres the possibility that all 8 of them could be town.- Lady 8
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You literally town-read me and the fact that you forgot makes me think you're town with limited knowledge. Scum wouldn't fuck up their reads this bad.In post 819, Gentleman 6 wrote: 8 I don't remember.- Lady 8
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Lack of knowledge of setup?In post 920, Gentleman 6 wrote:
How would this be a townslip?In post 908, Lady 8 wrote:Is this a town-slip? All of dance games have been 1:2 or 2:1 for scum ratios.- Lady 8
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I'm reading. I'm trying to commit to at least one catchup a day.
In post 1005, Gentleman 6 wrote:Whatever disregard correct play dance with the hottest girl.
Lady 8, will you dance with me?I accept.- Lady 8
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Not sure why G5 is being extremely aggro.In post 1022, Lady 7 wrote:Can we please stop with the altguesses? It would really suck if he started force replacing due to it.
Also, I'm not really a big fan of L5 postings.
Is this LAMIST? Also, I'm at like page 45 and wondering why G5 is ignoring all these questions.In post 1050, Lady 5 wrote:
Do people still scum read me for emojis? XD or something else?In post 1046, Gentleman 5 wrote:Honestly, theres alot I could say about L5 not accepting the proposal.
I thought she would have accepted that asap since people scumread her and probably have her pinned as a first target.
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Yo, definitely getting good vibes from L6.In post 1125, Lady 6 wrote:
That is because a lot of the posting is grandstanding, roleplaying, alt guessing and spam. If we're all more deliberate with our posting, we'll all be more readable.In post 1091, Gentleman 5 wrote:You know, for 44 pages in, there seems to be alot of uncertainty for reads.
I mean, theres a reason/excuse I, G2, and maybe one or two other have, but the rest of yall idk what to think.
Yeah but I don't think that sort of posting comes from scum rather than town that legit doesn't give a fuck.In post 1143, Gentleman 6 wrote:Everything that 6 posts feels like scumposting.- Lady 8
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Are u scum?In post 1195, Lady 3 wrote:okay I don't mind leaving Lady 6 this phase- Lady 8
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In post 1283, Gentleman 4 wrote:Lady 8, have you said the only things that you have to contribute after your catch-up?
If you're town instead of just throwing shade maybe you can make this game more bearable by engaging in conversation with me and asking me questions because yes, the name `${Gender} ${Number}` is definitely helping me cognitively recognize players easier.In post 1292, Gentleman 4 wrote:I will admit I'm markedly disappointed in Lady 8's contributions today.- Lady 8
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Can you not do this when we have an above rand chance each real day to have a replacement due to main slips?In post 1290, Gentleman 6 wrote:I acknowledge that I haven't really been playing to the spirit of the alt game. I have a PT with a bunch of lists of alt guesses and relevant meta considerations. Perhaps that's a bad way to play the game.- Lady 8
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Ok that's reasonable.In post 1301, Gentleman 4 wrote:
I apologize if it comes off as just throwing shade, this isn't my intent and I think I've made it pretty obvious that I think you're town. I was just hoping to be able to engage with you on several topics -- perhaps my reaction was bad but it doesn't come across in a particularly positive way when the first and only thing of note that you have to comment on is how you think my partner should be dead, and even then based solely off a post that (at least it came across to me in such a way) was merely responsive to how toxic a certain player was being to deal with. I don't know about you but I've rarely found solid basis in calling another player scum simply because they remarked on how little they want to play with a person after said person told someone they can go die (and called that someone else a repugnant toad ).In post 1294, Lady 8 wrote:In post 1283, Gentleman 4 wrote:Lady 8, have you said the only things that you have to contribute after your catch-up?
If you're town instead of just throwing shade maybe you can make this game more bearable by engaging in conversation with me and asking me questions because yes, the name `${Gender} ${Number}` is definitely helping me cognitively recognize players easier.In post 1292, Gentleman 4 wrote:I will admit I'm markedly disappointed in Lady 8's contributions today.- Lady 8
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No. This is a good read.In post 1324, Gentleman 6 wrote:I think that L6 is one of my top townreads. Do you think that's hasty?
Why?In post 1327, Lady 7 wrote:In post 1324, Gentleman 6 wrote:I think that L6 is one of my top townreads. Do you think that's hasty?
Absolutely 100% yes i do.
And now I know exactly who you are and glad we can pair.In post 1365, Gentleman 6 wrote:
Bad question.In post 1363, Lady 5 wrote:
Are you actually female?In post 1343, Gentleman 3 wrote:I shouldn't have signed up as a gentleman honestly, if I play again I won't.
I don't see what the rush is?- Lady 8
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Not really, I've been pretty straight forward on my reads and have taken positions that's really not feasible if I was scum. Try again.In post 1399, Lady 3 wrote:Look I'll reread Lady 7 before end of pre dance and see if I can grasp at what I didn't like about her earlier
But I really really think you need to read Lady 8 closer because she's been a shifty girl.- Lady 8
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Uh, because I was already pretty insistent that I wanted to pair with G6 since like the start of the game?In post 1443, Gentleman 5 wrote:
Add to that L8 - why did you accept that so fast?In post 1441, Gentleman 5 wrote:
That was fast. In fact thats the first thing L8 mentions: making sure shes going to the next round.In post 1270, Lady 8 wrote:I'm reading. I'm trying to commit to at least one catchup a day.
In post 1005, Gentleman 6 wrote:Whatever disregard correct play dance with the hottest girl.
Lady 8, will you dance with me?I accept.
G6: You mentioned it after you made the proposal but Id like to ask you again - do you think your pairing is T-T?- Lady 8
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No it's most likely town who leaves. I've never seen scum leave in any of these dance games.In post 1484, Gentleman 4 wrote:
I think fearing someone else leaving is much more real for scum than town, and even if you disagree with me on this, why is this a fear that scum would have to fake? You're proposing my approach to your dilemma as one with only two options, but I think one of these isn't even close to one of the most likely probabilities.In post 1482, Gentleman 3 wrote:Why is that something I might fake concern for as scum, but for which I'd be less likely to really have concern for as town?
What are the odds that I don't think leaving is REALLY a big issue for town, but I'm scum and I'm pretending I do, because I think it will bring me some advantage?- Lady 8
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I think you probably should of paired with L6. She has >rand town chance.In post 1495, Gentleman 8 wrote:Hello again, good citizens!
The volume of communication here is simply staggering, and I struggle to keep up, particularly while wearing this excellent and most efficacious mask, which, while handsome, leaves much to be desired for eye-holes.
I am entirely flexible with regard to a partner. I find most of the judgments discussed here premature. Either I am paired with a good and talented dancer, in which case I shall be delighted to waltz the night away, or I shall be paired with one who steps on toes and uses the wrong fork at dinner. In the latter case, I will be delighted to do the company a service and leave the dance with her. To wit, based on Gentleman 4's list,
Lady Lucky #7, will you dance with me?- Lady 8
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Agreed. G8 doesn't look good here.In post 1507, Gentleman 5 wrote:
I dont like thisIn post 1495, Gentleman 8 wrote:Hello again, good citizens!
The volume of communication here is simply staggering, and I struggle to keep up, particularly while wearing this excellent and most efficacious mask, which, while handsome, leaves much to be desired for eye-holes.
I am entirely flexible with regard to a partner. I find most of the judgments discussed here premature. Either I am paired with a good and talented dancer, in which case I shall be delighted to waltz the night away, or I shall be paired with one who steps on toes and uses the wrong fork at dinner. In the latter case, I will be delighted to do the company a service and leave the dance with her. To wit, based on Gentleman 4's list,
Lady Lucky #7, will you dance with me?- Lady 8
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In post 1540, Lady 5 wrote:What’s everyone’s Reads on me exactly?These two posts are scummy.
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Oh, I misread that entirely. M' bad.In post 1664, Gentleman 4 wrote:
That's not what I'm getting at.In post 1661, Lady 8 wrote:
No it's most likely town who leaves. I've never seen scum leave in any of these dance games.In post 1484, Gentleman 4 wrote:
I think fearing someone else leaving is much more real for scum than town, and even if you disagree with me on this, why is this a fear that scum would have to fake? You're proposing my approach to your dilemma as one with only two options, but I think one of these isn't even close to one of the most likely probabilities.In post 1482, Gentleman 3 wrote:Why is that something I might fake concern for as scum, but for which I'd be less likely to really have concern for as town?
What are the odds that I don't think leaving is REALLY a big issue for town, but I'm scum and I'm pretending I do, because I think it will bring me some advantage?
Why is he proposing that only a town player would be concerned with their partner leaving?- Lady 8
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Based on previous experiences, this is incorrect.In post 1545, Lady 5 wrote:If I was scum I would have instantly accepted Gent 5’s proposal. Did you think of that?- Lady 8
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In post 1593, Lady 5 wrote:@Mod
Is it possible to replace Out and grab someone to replace in?
That way no one will know I replaced out, and I’ll find someone who’s so good you wouldn’t even notice the replace out but they play better.
Also someone who keeps the PFP and Town reads Gent 3.
Are you new to mafia? Please stop.In post 1595, Lady 5 wrote:If I can I’ll get an actual lady to sub into this slot.
Or even
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Is Hydra allowed?- Lady 8
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I can, but I'll probably be out for a few hours to get some food with friends.In post 1671, Lady 3 wrote:Lady 8 wanna chat over some coffee and bagels
Overall, I wouldn't mind some help by having people ask me questions so I can keep engaged.- Lady 8
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Probably better at late game. I'm really bad early game. I can't lead town so I think pairing with G6 was a good option.In post 1673, Lady 3 wrote:What assets do you bring to town in your opinion? Like self-evaluation
Early game I was town reading them for their strong town stance on G5 and me. They have similar reads to me so I tent to town-read those kinds of slots in the early game but there can be deep wolf potential in that slot. As for their partner...In post 1676, Gentleman 4 wrote:Lady 8, what are your thoughts on Gentleman 3 (within what you're willing to share, of course) and who do you think would make a solid partner for him?
I would say they should pair with L6 because that's a really strong town-slot.In post 1471, Gentleman 4 wrote:For reference, remaining Gentleman and Ladies:
have no partners. Of these, only Gentleman 3 has posted in the last day and a half, and only Gentlemen 7 and 3 have posted in the last three days.Gentlemen 1, 3, 7, and 8
have no partners. Of these, all have posted in the last 24 hours, with the exception of Lady 1 who hasn't posted in four days.Ladies 1, 2, 5, 6, and 7
If your name was listed here, I'm really interested to here your thoughts on prospective partners or if you've already explained that, why you've been pushing for said partner (with the exception of Gentleman 3). Gentlemen 3 seems to be a hot commodity for the Ladies, am I wrong?- Lady 8
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In post 1678, Gentleman 4 wrote:@Anyone not Lady 5, how difficult is this sort of post to make as scum?
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