Newbie 1964 [Game Over]

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owo what's this uwu desu desu desu desu

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VOTE: rc

i'm the jester

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i'm a barbie girl in a barbie world

life in plastic it's fantastic

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hi

how u doin

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I claim first

I am Jester

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so am i baby

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so am i baby

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I think that skitter's scum

I don't think she's given a single read as to who the scum are and she's flooded the thread with discussion of votes and such but never really gave anything meaningful

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ah yes without fail

"wow this person is obviously town when i'm catching up"

-this person has been lynched D1

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alright karnage you're my backup townread since you guys lynched LCPL jones ???????????????? (how do u lynch that lol)

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lol

gildedsun is even more obviously town than lcpl jones was

guys why lol

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you bakas

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jk

i think bepwei might be town

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bepwei's really scummy in some ways but i think that he's town.

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btw here's a really cool thought on the nightkill

usually weird nightkills aren't made because of their scumreads, they're made because of their townreads

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Hey Radiant. Never played with you, but I hear good things. Gotta admit, this isnt what I had expected.

i will send you 5 hearts if you take this back

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if i end up with a confident scumread i'd rather we not massclaim so scum don't have a better option than just shooting me and getting a vt flip

if i don't it might not be a bad idea to do a massclaim but don't start claiming until i've decided whether i've confidently found scumz

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Karnage if you thought that Gilded was obvscum why would you say you're going to hammer later and stall the hammer so long?

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Gilded is caught scum. I will hammer tonight, approx 7 hours from now.

like this is weird? if you think someone's caught scum don't you, like, hammer?

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wasn't aware that bbmolla was already outed pr; there's really no reason to give scum info on whether he's a safe kill or not by having him fullclaim atp

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i want to lynch Karnage

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i want to lynch Karnage

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i think it's probably 2/3 of Karnage/Gyro Zeppeli/Anacondra

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bbmolla being assumed because of his soft moreso than due to his play

others are townreads

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Yeah karnage is scum good job me

VOTE: karnage

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Because I want to flip someone who is always flipping scum and not someone who isn't always flipping scum

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desu?

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just carry this gun you'll even get paid i said yeah that sounds pretty good

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you mean, why am i not locktowning gyro? because i'm not. idk bruh

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3 things to say in response to that

1) when I have a dead thread read I usually have only read the thread once and at one time which doesn't give me a high quality read usually
2) you've been paranoiaing my slot all day before I subbed in. Why are you talking to me like I'm outed town
3) lol do you think that this is going to help you

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That, uh, kind of all sounds the same as "appeasing spooky replace in"

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That actually kind of stings.

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I won't replace out on you snake bb

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Fuck that's technically against the rules lol

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Also come on how does a townie actually discredit my read on them based on my reads in dead threads

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"Yeah well your DEAD THREAD READS suck qed bitch"

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yay good moderation ty skitter

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i'm not convinced massclaim is optimal right now given circumstances.

if you specifically have anything to claim, you should claim it. i don't think anyone else should claim.

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newd3 was partially designed around not encouraging town to massclaim early except in specific controlled manners.

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okay then no massclaim

let's wait for a gyro zeppeli replacement who hopefully plays the gaem

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what do you think the odds are that it's just anaconda zeppeli lurk squad

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i don't think anyone is currently in "scumhunting" range in this game and it's possible that's because scum are just not playing the game.

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VOTE: bepwei

wait was i drunk or high when i declared a townread on this

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define

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please can we not lynch gyro today can someone unvote

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why exactly are you getting town vibes from me

what am i doing that deserves to be townread

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you said unkind things about my mother

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You created discussion on a dead thread. Like you got us moving again. All a scum would have to do is sit back. Also they’re vibes, so mostly a gut read.

Serious question: do I seem like the kind of player who would willingly pursue a scum win via apathy just because that option were available to me?

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Also, yourself and Anacondra were both scumreading my predecessor and I'm not sure why that would go away if I lurked. I also feel like I haven't exactly been trying my hardest to project town.

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you're not paying attention if you think it's a sheep vote.

you can't deny the timing of your vote is suspect though

Not sure how the timing makes it suspect. He has been suspicious on jones for a while.

Sorry for the inactivity this weekend, I kinda got swamped with stuff from school

he's been suspicious for a while but didn't vote until Billy did. that implies it was Billy's vote that prompted BB's vote. That is suspect

I think scum is most likely in Arkias, Bepwei, Anaconda, and Jones. mostly via POE

Gyro is too scummy to be scum if that's a thing though I wouldn't oppose his lynch if the deadline was imminent

Jones was a townread up to his FOS/Unvote of Micc. Not ready to vote him quite yet

I need to sort Ark, Bep, and Ana but I anticipate my vote being placed on one of those three

p-edit: i look forward to it

why wasn't bbmolla in this list

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hi pls don't be scum

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Jamelia is for sure mafia

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How am I wrong again? What is this

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My Sr on you is a joke but the question isnt

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What's scummy about gyro as opposed to policy lynch-y

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So if I'm town what does that say about bbcakesmolla

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What if I said I had a guilty on bbmolla

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how sure is pretty sure

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No one really knows about karnage's gif game

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it is in fact a compliment

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Still think the slots scum, but now I can't run a lynch a Micc anymore. Also, no one responded to my post were I wanted to discuss town\nontown motives for appealing to the audience to drive a wagon.

i'm missing your point

if you thought micc was scum my alignment hasn't changed

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I have, it doesn't make your meaning any more clear.

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Hi. Give me some time to read all of this. I understand my slot is being read as a “for sure” mafia slot though and I have no clue how that even came to be lol

Hi. Give me some time to read all of this. I understand my slot is being read as a “for sure” mafia slot though and I have no clue how that even came to be lol

What gave you this implication

From quickly ISO’ing GYRO in the search bar and seeing people talk about how they’re for sure mafia lol

Jamelia is for sure mafia

Hi RC <3 still see your spamming multiple pages just to be wrong again. How are you love?

when will you be caught up?

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I had to switch to mafblack to read JTW

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oops

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I am willing to defend any of Micc's action this game because I was very confident this slot was town before I took it.

I am also willing to defend my own if you'd prefer that.

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Gilded lynch was stupid af.

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He said... the time for my vengeance has come.

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Sup BBmolla

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Ok my current scumteam guess is Karnage/Jamelia.

Interested in further thoughts.

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He's flirting with me instead of catching up.

Not that I think Jamelia wouldn't be flirting with me if he were town but I think that he would be solving 35% more and flirting with me 10% less.

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When do you get home from work?

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I'm going to stay up basically indefinitely until Jam comes back.

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I'm here for you <3

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I would vote Karnage.

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Here's my thing about you: I don't know who the fuck your scumbuddy is supposed to be tbh.

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Do you trust me?

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I thought that the way Karnage let himself be "talked into" scumreading your slot was really bad.

I trust your slot. That's all that matters to me.

No, but... do you trust me?

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I really don't think that this is the angle scum!Jamelia would have gone down subbing into this slot.
I was already not scumreading the slot, but this makes me feel a lot better about it.

VOTE: Karnage

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Btw there's bits to 614 that I don't think are really in any newbie player's scum range, and I just finished playing with scum!Jamelia. There was never really a good reason to SR him. He's town.

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Honestly, Karnage I'm feeling a little uneasy about you.

You seemed to position yourself weirdly wrt to Jones/Gilded yesterday. You were in a spot where he wasnt your preferred lynch (Bepwei was), but you made it clear that you thought the slot was scummy and ultimately hammered.

Now, in a game where people are getting scumread for pushing people that was maybe a risk, but maybe not. Although, I dont think you would have killed Arkias. I think that you probably would have killed Molla or one of the more active players. So your day play has me scumleaning you, but the nk makes me think it's not you.

And honestly, I'm lost in this game because I don't feel like we've got a good townblock.

Look if you think I'm town, come interact with me so we can get somewhere. If you think I'm scum interact with me and tell me why. Let me sort some people.

I think that this post is extremely difficult to make convincingly as scum. There's a lot of other posts that are similar; the one addressing Bbmolla I feel similarly about.
Honestly the main thing is that I think that his disappointment regarding my underwhelming replacement was super super genuine.

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Hey Radiant. Never played with you, but I hear good things. Gotta admit, this isnt what I had expected.

I dont have any rock solid scumreads. I thought I had a PoE solve in gyro>heavy>bep, but rc is confusing me. Micc was a solid townread, RC is not that.

I'm down for mass claim if others are. I'll go first but I'm popcorning to Molla because of how that slot has been acting around pr claims. I want time to sort that in case theres a weird situation there. I dont want to have to figure that shit out in LYLO.

This is probably hard to sell to anyone but me because it's a read that I have and other people don't really have access to understanding in the same way
but I don't think that this is how scum reacts and I feel like all his interactions with me have had an undercurrent of not being happy with me performing below expectations

idk.

I'm not voting until I am off L-1 by the way. If I get lynched, you (RC) know it's because I am a liability and NOT because of a LYLO.

Please just vote with me: it's very possible that both of us are not in the game tomorrow and the EoD votecount matters.

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Like a lot of my more arcane reads are just my memory and I feel like I can even put a name to a player though I don't remember the game
but I remember exactly that kind of unexpressed frustration from Elyse in a game where I picked up on it and she was town.

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I think it's very common, unfortunately, for townies to get very complacent in situations like this.

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No, they shouldn't be.

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Guys, the N1 kill had Gyro Zeppeli as their #1 townread. Scum don't nightkill a guy who is sitting there saying that one of them is town, and Arkias was transparently not a PR either.

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So... 2/3 Bbmolla/Karnage/Heavy Anacondra

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Yeah uh except the thing is I don't think it's bbmolla/Anacondra

If Karnage is town (which I doubt) maybe it's actually Billy

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Quick Karnage case.

So a scum never should agree with the town? If they are trying to blend in, they would have to agree with town at some point...

"Hey scum!Billy, I'm glad you are seeing things the way I am! please tell me how your fake reads are changing atm and how your fake read on karnage will change when your partner flips red. I ask this fully aware that as scum, you will likely try to blend in." - bepwei

This is what scum discrediting a townie looks like; hard to explain it beyond that.

Gilded is caught scum. I will hammer tonight, approx 7 hours from now.

You don't say someone is caught scum and you'll hammer in 7 hours. That's a tonal mismatch; if he thought it was caught scum he'd hammer. Common mistake by scum.

@Micc, Who are your top scumreads atm?

I could make a case for anyone being scum right now. I think I’ve settled on billy, molla as Town and gyro as the best lynch for today but confidence levels are low.

is gyro the best lynch just to keep him out of lylo?

Not going to copy all of them but the way that Karnage lets himself be persuaded to mislynching Jamelia just feels super scummy. Hard to express.

RC, you know all those dead threads where you've been wrong about who was scum and what not? yeah, you're doing it again

Who TF discredits me because of dead threads, like what?

3 things to say in response to that

1) when I have a dead thread read I usually have only read the thread once and at one time which doesn't give me a high quality read usually
2) you've been paranoiaing my slot all day before I subbed in. Why are you talking to me like I'm outed town
3) lol do you think that this is going to help you

you are absolutely right about #2. I think your slot is town and I want to believe it because it more or less solves for the game for me BUT i worry that i'm extrapolating too far beyond the available data and as a result I'm dead wrong

The whole "extrapolating too far beyond the available data" feels very scummy, again hard to explain but like just doesn't feel like town response.

Come on man, why did you sign up to play the game if you're not gonna try? Look, I think theres a better than average chance that Gyro is scum now. If both scum are lurking it explains why there isnt any scummy play that's presenting itself. Also, he did hop yesterday's wagon fairly easily.

I want that lynch and it's not just policy. Is a good bit policy? Yes, but come on that slot is infuriating. He literally responded to his fourth prod with the word "post."

yeah, I think the risk is well worth the possible reward at this point

VOTE: gyro

Again the culmination of it to "the risk is well worth the possible reward at this point" is just a wtf answer.

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I need to sleep. I have no intentions of changing votes and I implore anyone who townreads me to trust my Jamelia townread.

Tons of people have been expressing that Karnage just doesn't feel right all game but the wagon has never actually happened and that in and of itself is a very good scumtell.

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Like... who is Gyro Zeppeli's scumread supposed to be? The only answer that ever made sense was Karnage with his reluctance to get on the wagon.

Let's try a hand at 'reading' Micc seems super aggressive, espeiclaly towards me, could be an aggressive pro townie or a scum trying to push me out the game and then using me as a policy lynch to cover up.
Karnage seems helpful and reasonable altho I cba to check back at his past messages.
Arklas I would say is my strongest town read because they type too much for someone who would be scummy, and their arguments and views are pretty fair.
Billy im neutral on as he could be a scum, just saying stuff like 'dont follow the policy lynch' and his posts haven't had much beef just repeating what people said and answering questions and fluff.

is this what I should be doing d1? seems pretty useless

Fundamental law of scum readslists in the early game is they put their partners on them and for that reason even though Anacondra could maaaybe have worked I really don't think that's a thing.
And if you're scared that I'm scum with him, please just trust me for now and bring it up tomorrow because I think we are going to flip scum in Karnage.

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I'm tremendously unsurprised given that I think that it's you and Karnage.

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Karnage’s lack of worry wrt Gyro is strange to me personally

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You're not even presenting an argument for why an, I think, objectively towny entrance deserves to continue to be tunneled based on a predecessor who factually was more policy than scum.

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Not really a good example to set, not caring about whether you're lynching town or scum, but I guess it's a good thing to hide behind as scum.

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I'm not in the business of lynching town slots,

compromised

or not.

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uwu owo d e s u

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Did you mean scum partner or life partner

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Man if you're town it's not me/jam its Bbmolla / Anaconda

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God fking damnit

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w/e I'm committed leggo

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I also don't support a massclaim

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I would be fine to lynch like Anacondra or somethign.

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At this point it's not about who I'm voting it's about who I'm not voting.

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At this point it's not about who I'm voting it's about who I'm not voting.

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Bupwei
Bbmolla
Billy
Jamelia

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on jamelia yea

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i'm really realizing my limitations as a player when i replace into a game and can't convince everyone that i'm town.

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also I hardclaimed VT so I'm really questioning you thinking me and bbmolla were masons but ok

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which was a mistake and I'll go over it after game but yeah.

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I'm confident that Jamelia is town.

I'm confident that Karnage is scum/VT.

I really don't see the utility in not lynching Karnage today.

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I claim jester

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???

What's that supposed to mean

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Wouldn't that mean I have to be scum

Can I be a mafia-aligned jester?

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Bbmolla/Bepwei karnage isn't going to hammer himself even if he says he will so it's either hammer him or NL.

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Well if you're town yeah I guess you would shrug

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Fuck.

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Would you vote Bupwei

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Im not convinced with Karnage. Like I feel bad because i cant make up my mind on who to vote for. These replacements make it really hard to read

This feels wrong.

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Changed my mind.

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You can scumread that if you want.

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Alright I don't think I'm doing a good job of making myself not the nightkill.

I hardclaim Mason.

Karnage how the fuck do you ever believe that me/Jamelia is SvS because that is a stupid fucking viewpoint

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Bbmolla what the fuck is up with you softing under pressure as a VT (supposedly)

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No it's not and the fact that you're trying to out my partner as well is a scumclaim or you are a god awful town player.

Done considering a change of wagon, just kill karnage

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If it's not Karnage/Bepwei or Karnage/Bbmolla or Bbmolla/Bepwei you guys should feel bad that you were all scummier than a slot that shitpushed me and did nothing else because there's no way Anacondra gets lynched before endgame atp.

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5 hours to EOD

Massclain is an order

Dur

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I shouldn't have claimed but I'm never not the nightkill anyway.

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Ok

Just hammer Karnage

Bepwei next, Bbmolla after.

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You should feel REALLY bad if you're town.

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If you're scum wp on preying on my frustration to get me to out.

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"for next time"

I literally claimed Mason.

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Why should anyone claim

I'm just dying at night anyway

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Why?

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If I'm scum you're just giving me what I want outing a PR

Why not just hammer Karnage

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Like I don't have any more reason to fakeclaim Mason as scum than I do as town so it's a really stupid thing to go off anyway.

And Karnage is literally trying to convince his top scumread Jamelia to go after a mason claim.

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You should feel REALLY bad if you're town.

hey jamelia, THAT is AtE. just so you know for next time

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The only reason for Karnage to pursue a second Mason to out is because he doesn't know who it is which was something I worked hard to create.

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Okay so since you're not switching to Bepwei and we rescinded that offer why are you not selfhammering now if you're not trying to hope no one new shoes up?

the only reason for you to rush for somebody to hammer me is to avoid a counterclaim

Why would I claim if I didn't want a counterclaim?

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I'll correct my claim: I am not Mason. I am a power role whereby there is a high chance there is a protective role and I wanted to alert them to my existence.

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But I think claiming Mason is effective shorthand.

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It also gets scum to potentially nightkill me and fail to do so. Yada yada yada.

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I just think it's autowin if I live to tomorrow and protectives should aid and abrt that.

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But your reaction to a mason claim never comes from town, sorry.

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It's a literally zero scum motivation move.

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Conversely trying to out my partner is a HUGE scum motivation move.

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Also how long it took you to actually react: as town you have no reason to look through associatives but as scum your first move is to figure out my buddy so that you can tell your scumpartner before you die.

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I'll be killing you when I get a fourth vote you anti-town at best shmuck.

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lol

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You should feel REALLY bad if you're town.

We should really lynch bepwei

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Go soak your head

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I am less convinced on Bbmolla town but yeah.

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How do you define that

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You understand I was deliberately trying to be scummy right

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Hell yeah boi

Did you like my you anti-town shmuck line

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I was trying to at least be funny

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It was literally a zero scum motivation move

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I'm trying to persuade him to vote Bepwei if that can't happen I'll vote Anacondra

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VOTE: Bepwei

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Why wouldn't jam hammer here as either alignment

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Because it's fate or something idk

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As long as Bepwei is here...

we will never be together <\3

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It's not policy I think he is scumz

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Idk if I scumread Anacondra

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I am assuming I have figured it out I guess idk

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Turn and feys the strange ch ch changes

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WHY DO I JOIN FUCKING MAFIA GAMES

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WHY

I DON'T WANT ANY OF THIS

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fear of losing really fucks with my reads

the real reason i'm better on d1 is that i'm not terrified of being wrong

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why is no one open wolfing :v

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That defense feels kinda whataboutist

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Assuming you flip town, who do you think both scum are?

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Billy and Arkias I'm fairly confident of being town just at face level their reasoning is clear and makes sense. I think scum is in Micc / BBmolla / other 'quiet' players. I'm mostly confused about Karnage!

At one level I like his posts but he's just, I don't know, it doesn't sit right with me and fair to say I don't trust him that he's town.

this is like the scummiest post in this whole game

I'm town, Micc town, Karnage town, Salsae town, Arkias town,

scum is in (Gyro/Bep/Jones/Billy)

Is Bbmolla actually the kind of player to come out with 5 townreads on Day 1

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I gave up trying to fight fair, I'm done fighting fair. Let's see what I can get out of the thread now.

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your case is lacking anything that's alignment indicative, at least in my opinion.

your original vote was, IIRC, because he was the most active but not moving the game forward. Does that make him more likely to be scum on page 2 than anybody else? I don't think it does. I would expect that your read wasn't very strong at all (assuming town!Billy) and that goes back to your vote being opportunistic (assuming scum!Billy).

This is problematic to me; why call someone out for having a 'not good enough' Page 2 vote and the phrasing used in the prior reference to it (attempt to retroactively justify previous vote) doesn't sit all that well with me.

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Independently townreading Gyro Zeppeli even if I wasn't townreading Jamelia.

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FOS Billy and FOS Micc.

heh heh heh heh heh

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I feel really uninterested in an endgame that includes Karnage atm.

UNVOTE:

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VOTE: Heavy Anacondra

Let's get rid of this shit and then I think that me and Billy can solve this overnight.

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Wait.

UNVOTE:

Ugh.

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What if it's Karnage/Bepwei?

Jamelia, a NL is a very bad thing.

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I'm tremendously not a fan of the back and forth between bepwei and Karnage in late D1.

I'm not sure who I think comes off worse from it, both come off pretty bad.

Honestly I kinda townread Anacondra, my issue is moreso that like it's somewhat hard for me to see Bbmolla town but maybe I should sheep Micc on that read? Idk.

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Although there's certain parts of Bbmolla's iso that do feel really good, mostly the townread on the Anacondra predecessor.

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I'm inclined to believe Billy here but I'd like BB to elaborate on his vote

And this is just

Like, feels kinda tmiy but I don't know how coppish that actually came across

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Not being there at the time.

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This is a great vid btw

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giving u ur pt

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Can you guys sell me on bepwei?

I'm going to make a hard right turn here. What do you think about BB as scum?

Looking back at his ISO I don't like his early sheeping on the jones vote. Then he makes a weird 180 at the end of the day on the jones/guilded slot. naked votes on billy and bep to start the day. the only reasoning he can give is "the same reason as karnage"

UNVOTE:

There's also this derail of the Bepwei wagon, plus the fact that Bepwei won't shut the fuck up about how he's "uncertain" of his read on him.

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I thought I was all you needed <3

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Can you give me 15 minutes to finish my last catchup then you're free?

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I don’t have a guilty or an innocent or anything I just think Billy is scum

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bepwei

Feeling this instead more atm

Also Billy’s reaction was townish I think

I'm good with a bepwei wagon

I don't think this comes from town

I am confused why they would choose arkias as their NK. Any idea?

VOTE: bepwei

Can you guys sell me on bepwei?

I voted him same reason as Karnage

Old epic mafia tell is that only a doctor or mafia comments on the nightkill

I voted him same reason as Karnage

Old epic mafia tell is that only a doctor or mafia comments on the nightkill

You've never had people comment on the NK? That is one of the tells of who could be mafia. The reason I posted that is because Arkias was one the more inactive people toward the end of the day. The only reason I can think of for lynching Arkias is he was very analytical, and was not under heat from the town. I am confident there was at least one scum on the LCpl/Gilded wagon. Of course, that does not clear my name, but some reasoning behind your vote, @BBMolla, would be nice. Karnage didn't really give reasoning either, but he was suspicious of me yesterday, so I expected his vote today.

Can you guys sell me on bepwei?

I'm going to make a hard right turn here. What do you think about BB as scum?

Looking back at his ISO I don't like his early sheeping on the jones vote. Then he makes a weird 180 at the end of the day on the jones/guilded slot. naked votes on billy and bep to start the day. the only reasoning he can give is "the same reason as karnage"

UNVOTE:

This isn't great.

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It's more fun to play the game normally instead of doing what I'm doing now but I don't want to lose this game.

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Looking back at his ISO I don't like his early sheeping on the jones vote. Then he makes a weird 180 at the end of the day on the jones/guilded slot. naked votes on billy and bep to start the day. the only reasoning he can give is "the same reason as karnage"

UNVOTE:

Not sure where I should "flesh out" the case on BBMolla. I think its pretty well summarized in what I've already posted. PLUS his read on Billy is flip flopping now followed by sheeping Micc again...
VOTE: BBMolla

@Billy another reason could be straight confusion. To send us down a wild goose chase. I’m leaning toward that because there wasn’t a whole lot of information to begin with. A NK like you said gives info and it isn’t super obvious which one happened right now. Is there one option you think is more likely to have occurred.

this feels like scum bragging how they've confused town with their NK choice

I'm not wholeheartedly against lynch gyro but I don't like how the wagon has formed. feels artificial or something

Also next page, he goes right back to calling Bepwei scum as soon as the wagon's dead.

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what does scum molla have to gain by making naked votes at the start of the day or flipping his vote around?

so we should just accept him as town for "reasons"?

yikes

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I am actual scum. I'm just not mafia.

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Do you mind if I postpone this 20 minutes and do a second meta on Karnage from an alternate viewpoint

aka can you stay up for 20 more minutes Billy/Jam