Newbie 1967 | GAME OVER

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hey all

@eth0s

- i am regularly vla on fridays and saturdays!

catching up now!

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why should i be voted for for having no avatar I dont know how to change it

bugspray's entrance is lowkey townie, i think

this post feels kinda defensive

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I kind of suspect that Sera Masumi is mafia because they immediatly voted for me

ok, why does this make you think they may be mafia?

i'm actually getting some gut-town vibes from them; in particular from post 24

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actually i think bigfatdonald is (newb)townie

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ok:

a) can you elaborate why, in your random vote, you said you thought sera was mafia because they voted for you?

b) why does 24 make you suspicious of her?

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Ayyy I was right on the first try

I think that she is aligned with the town.

ya i think i agree with this for now

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VOTE: Arkisa

Caught scum

why do you think this?

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1. What is your experience at Mafia
2. How do you play as town
3. How do you play as scum
4. What do you think gives away a player as scum or town
5. Time zone/standard posting times

1. loads
2. trying to understand people's mindsets and seeing if what they're posting makes sense and could be coming from a consistent/townie pov
3. pocketing people
4. if their mindset isn't consistent and the things they're pushing doesn't really make sense as coming from a coherent pov
5. eastern us (utc - 5); mainly evenings / after work and on weekends, sometimes i can post at work but no promises. i'm regularly vla on fridays and saturdays

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ok i don't really have any scurmeads strong enough to vote rn

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oh i forgot to say that pvturist is also kinda townie

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Not particularly

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Rc were u looking for something from me?

Bfd can you elaborate on why 24 made you suspicious of sera?

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Ok then

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Bfd how do you think i'm reading 24?

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Fair enough, i dont think i've done anything ai either
Agree it's hard to scumhunt rn

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Bfd how do you think i'm reading 24?

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Bfd how do you think i'm reading 24?

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ok i rescind my townread on bfd for now

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BigFatDonald -- I think I agree with skitter here that they are town. Just new, even if they're acting weird.

I maybe rescind the townread on him
Why do u think i'm town?

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A lynch happens today when 5 people are voting the same person
(On later days, when fewer people are alive, the lynch threshold goes down)

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do you have to vote to lynch somebody?

i'm not sure i understand what you're asking

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i kinda feel like bugspray was fluffing instead of providing content

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Ok, going to start here

VOTE: naerys

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Rc i'm starting to become lowkey suspicious of you

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I feel like at best you're not trying to combat the apathy, and at worst you're encouraging it

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Here's the thing -- how do we move it from RVS to actual discussion?

I mean i'm working on it

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Skitter, have you ever heard a joke about a clown named Pagliacci?

Not sure, why?

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Interesting
Not sure i get the context here

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Fair enough, i feel like that too

I kinda only said it to see if it would spark any sort of interesting convo, tbh

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Huh
I dont know anything about arkias so idk

I'm not getting great vibes off of naerys

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I think the readlist itself was fine, the vote on pvturist was meh, a vote on u i think would have made more sense given their reads

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I think having 5 townreads is a priori sketchy at this stage of the game and I'm surprised that you think differently?

I dont have a strong opinion on that tbh, i can see it coming from town

Also i think the 'read' on themselves was good

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* good tonewise

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I've seen that a bunch of times recently

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Idk in vaccum i think that's more likely to come from newbtown than newbscum, it belies a certain level of ~carefreeness~ imo

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Like i said i have no idea what their experience level is

That puts a diff spin on it tho

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Arkias is not at all new to forum mafia.

Why do u think this?

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Does anyone have any strong scum reads?

No, but I think I have two town reads. You and Skitter. Your entrance feels really Newb!Town. Idk if Scum playing off as Newb would really go through the effort of asking for Profile Pic, asking definitions, etc. Feels like Newb!Scum would stay quiet and ask their partner in the PT. And it seems like Skitter is trying really hard to move the discussion to a more serious one. Scum is probably enjoying the confusion/'apathy'.

Oh this is lowkey townie, i think

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Honestly I was already not too happy about your slot Skitter but you not seeing this makes me feel even worse and if I hadn't just errantly scumread you in dead threads 3 times in a row for not seeing a read when I thought that it was obvious that you should I would probably be calling you scum right now for it.

Arkias feels incredibly muted. There's a lot I can't say about this read because of site rules. But I am like 85-90% confident that this is scum.

Ok, not sure i see your read tbh

Can we both collectively try not to take over the thread given newbie game etc?

(Not saying you are rn just asking like in general)

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Nevermind i dont even have a reason im a big noob

Er, could you at least tell me what you were thinking at the time? If you keep calling people scum, then rescinding it, it doesn't really help. What at least made you say that?

He's done the rescinding thing a couple of times now, when pressed

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Like it -feels- like you're rejecting the read outright and looking for reasons to reject it moreso than that you're actually rejecting it because that's the way the reasons go. And I know I've felt this way before and been wrong. But yeah I just don't get where your pov comes from and I'd appreciate a better explanation of it?

Ok?

I'm not sure i get what you're talking about in the first part
I dont think i'm looking for reasoms to reject your read; i'm just saying i disagree with it and i'm not sure i understand where your pov of arkias's skill/experience is coming from, or why you think his readslist is that bad

I can explain more, sure, what part are you confused about?

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I just dont want to make the game about you and me to the point where we drown out everyone else, i feel like it's against the point of the queue

Pedit ya fair enough. I want to understand your read but i dont want it to take over the thread

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Could be, ur really good at reading me most of the time
Also my playstyle has changed quite a bit over the past few months, that might have something to do with it

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I feel like i want to get back into that, i think my read accuracy went down when i stopped forcing myself to articulate everything

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I was actually thinking of doing that, sure
Posting will go down tho, more condensed in each post

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Well, at this stage i have like zero proof, it´s just that compared to you 2 PvT is invisible (might be his Timezone tho)

and his answer how he plays scum was very vague.

Bugspray bcz of the way Bug interacts with Donald, who is clearly very new to this game (and is Town IMHO).

And about Arkias - well, perhaps he was trying to achieve that we will think he´s just being ironic and will not consider him being scum seriously...

No wallposting cuz on phone, but forcing myself to be articulate

I think the bolded is townie; it feels like a very surface level read but in a oblique kind of way, i'm not sure this is the kind of read scum comes up with when they're making up reasons to sr people

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So in the sake of discussion, and since I am pretty curious on the 'pros' do it, @skitter and @RC, how would you be "dominating the game" and getting a good lynch on Day 1? This seems like its going to be quiet and do nothing.

I'm deliberately trying not to take over the thread

And idk i'm trying to generate content

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Wait, to whom are you talking with this last bit? I said i suspect him so i am not defending him
As for him turning scum, i really hope he IS scum! Scum must die.
VOTE: Arkias

Do you know what l1 is?

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this really late hop onto the wagon after low activity and not announcing the l-1 really rubs me the wrong way.

I'm not sure she understands the significance of l1.

Why are you taking this as being scummy (i.e. as opposed to uninformed of site meta/culture)?

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VOTE: bigfatdonald

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Bugspray how are you reading me?

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of all people I'd call town you're the least towny "null town" I guess it is called
i'll make a nameslist soon(tm) (probably in about 4-5 hours because something else is taking enough of my focus that I can't sit down and do that kind of in depth thought)

i'm not sure why you dropped ur naerys vote/read when i pushed back a bit

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@rc i think bugspray's list is worse than arkias's

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i don't understand your nae progression

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i don't agree because bugspray is commenting on things whereas arkias is throwing out reads.

???
I dont get it

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See like urist's is a good list, regardless iof if i agree with it

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I am not scum, but whatever.

tell us more about how scum you are, scum

In that case i am afraid i have to be silent.

Townie tone ^

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i will be vla tom thru sunday, dont know what ky internet access will look like, will check in when i can

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i don't agree with like

anything that skitter says

ever

So that's mildly disturbing

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rc i kinda feel like i disagree with all of ur takes

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heya karnage

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i think we're going to have a lot of trouble with each other / each other's reads this game

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i think we're going to have a lot of trouble with each other / each other's reads this game

i meant more in the sense of 'our reads aren't compatible at all' than in the sense of 'personal conflict', to clarify

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vaguely townie: naerys, georgebailey, pvturist

vaguely scummy: bugspray, bigfatdonald

null / idk: everyone else

confidence level: pretty low

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Well lynchi g me actualy makes sense...what could happen from neutral point a view:
-you lynch a scum
-you lynch a townie that screw up and the game would be better without this person

No you're doing fine and didnt screw up <3

You can helo us more by finding scum and voting them instead of voting yourself

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im willing to lynch ark instead of nae, its possible ive been tunnel visioning and sort of ignoring the stuff others have pointed out
gonna keep my vote on nae for now but come l-1 with the deadline approaching i'll definitely vote for my 2nd scummiest slot

Why exactly do u think nae is scum?

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In other news, nae and lovebird are town

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Going to try to catch up, might have to bounce before i'm done; i'm very vla this weekend

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VOTE: bigfatdonald

Can you explain this vote, Skitter?

Hes scummy and repeatedly refused to answer followup questions when asked, which kinda makes me feel like he doesnt have answers, and that he is making up bs that he cant explain

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, i think that your play since replacing in is devoid of anything that gives me the slightest townfeels and is filled with stuff designed to look busy

I actually kinda agree with this part

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if you're town gobbledygook it's probably like exactly bugspray/karnage atp

Whats ur read on bfd?

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I dont like karnages posting super much rn

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Wtf after waking up and reading all this new shit rc definitely feels a lot less town and I'm staring to believe the thing I thought made him town that I didn't want to explain was just a false flag thing designed to trick newbs who try to overthink the shit

Why doid u lose the townread?

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How to read RC:
- if he kills scum Day 1, he is probably town
- if he doesn’t kill scum for the rest of the game, he is probably scum

A+guide

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{Skitter, BFD, GeorgeBailey, Naerys} is my working townbloc right now.

I disagree with the bfd tr's

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I feel like i'm getting townread too easily by too many people

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frustrated noob!town (what is exclamation point between two words actually supposed to mean?

Idk its a convention on the internet and is used as a way to add adjectives and describe things

Scum!skitter - skitter in a world where she's scum
Noob!scum!skitter - skitter in a world where she's newbscum
Bfd!partner!skitter - skitter in a world where she's scum and partners with bfd

And so on

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being coached in the scum PT
between posts 268 and 301 is the gap where i think some pt coaching could have taken place

A) i disagree with this read
B) who's doing the coaching?

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isn't this long enough to receive a prod and replace? seems like an easy way for noob!scum who had a close call with death's door (aka being properly read) to just hide in a bunker hoping everyone else will burn down the city, not to mention our deadline will be running this entire time[

This is a rather uncharitable way top interpret that post

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Maybe Bugspray is town.

Um ... that was not a good post

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It is also interesting that you list Skitter as your second strongest townread, yet in your notes you list Skitter as "a lot more townie than anyone else". Why is that?

Whats the point of this question?

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what is vla

Vacation and limited access - ie due to irl not being able to post as much as you would otherwise

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@non imh do u have any scumreaads?

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, i think that your play since replacing in is devoid of anything that gives me the slightest townfeels and is filled with stuff designed to look busy

I actually kinda agree with this part

Why is that?

Maybe Bugspray is town.

Um ... that was not a good post

Do you disagree with the reasoning that I gave for Bugspray being town or do you disagree with the read?

Maybe Bugspray is town.

Um ... that was not a good post

It is also interesting that you list Skitter as your second strongest townread, yet in your notes you list Skitter as "a lot more townie than anyone else". Why is that?

Whats the point of this question?

I wanted to verify Karnage’s reads.

First part: i dont think you've done much townie with the repin, a lot of your questions are banal and feel like they're there so you look busy

Second part: i disagree with your bugspray townread, they're kinda scummy to me


This is a shameless prodge-with-content, sorry, i'll be back home tomorrow

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ok i'm back, catching up now

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weird juxtaposition

that's what i'm saying, 469 is not that great, so i'm not sure why that prompted a (maybe) tr out of gobble

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It is also interesting that you list Skitter as your second strongest townread, yet in your notes you list Skitter as "a lot more townie than anyone else". Why is that?

Whats the point of this question?

i mean it's a good question

the way that karnage has talked about his reads has not aligned very well with what he has ended up saying his reads are

i don't think that nitpicking 'you said she was more townie than anyone else' against 'second strongest tr' is a productive question really
either way it means karnage is reading me strongly, i don't think there's much meaningful difference between me being the highest townread or me being the second-highest townread, so it looks like busywork and a fake question
i'm not sure why you think that was a good question?

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also i forgot to say this before but rc is maybe town

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Wtf after waking up and reading all this new shit rc definitely feels a lot less town and I'm staring to believe the thing I thought made him town that I didn't want to explain was just a false flag thing designed to trick newbs who try to overthink the shit

Why doid u lose the townread?

tbh i thought he was trying to soft a pr but i ultimately decided that i was reading into it too much

@rc i don't think scum says this tho

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georgebailey is also probably town

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don't understand what you're asking for

he's asking why your read changed on him between those two posts when he didn't post anything in between

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ok i changed my mind on the bigfatdonald/non imh vote, i think that non imh's posting has been decent

i want to do this for now

VOTE: gobble

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who else?

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i don't like either of those rn

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as votes

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Wtf after waking up and reading all this new shit rc definitely feels a lot less town and I'm staring to believe the thing I thought made him town that I didn't want to explain was just a false flag thing designed to trick newbs who try to overthink the shit

Why doid u lose the townread?

tbh i thought he was trying to soft a pr but i ultimately decided that i was reading into it too much

i think that this is a bizarre thing for them to admit as scum here

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problems with 469:

- omgus
- overeplain-y wrt why they dislike the unvote (which i think is rather townie)
- says they think naerys had been coached - i'm p sure i asked by who because i'm not sure i see that happening
- shades naerys for being vla

idk if this is inherently scummy but it baffles me why you think that post was townie

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Skitter, why do you townread Lovebird?

as far as i'm aware lovebird stuggles to produce like ~content~ when they're scum

tbf this is meta from like a year ago

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both

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idk if this is inherently scummy but it baffles me why you think that post was townie

why was that post townie?

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i said on like the last page (or the page before ?) that i don't think they're scum

i'm just baffled about how you got to a tr off of that post tho

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yeah i just don't understand your bugspray tr

why do you scumread lovebird?

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that's not really how i've been approaching this game or you so why do you think that?

@ non imh do you have any thoughts on recent proceedings?

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i think i garbled that post

basically what i'm trying to get at is: why do i don't genuinely want to talk with you to try to solve the game?

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that's not really how i've been approaching this game or you so why do you think that?

@ non imh do you have any thoughts on recent proceedings?

yeah? but Im not confident or clever enough to attack on what boils down to meta impressions

Share them anyways!
That way we'll be able to see what you're thinking, which will make it easier to sort you, and you'll be able to bounce your reads off of other people

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i think i garbled that post

basically what i'm trying to get at is: why do i don't genuinely want to talk with you to try to solve the game?

I am not sure the exact reason. Scum motivation could be to protect yourself and your buddy by not giving content that could be associative. It could also be a me thing, but you don’t seem like that type of player.

I guess my question is less why you think scum!me would do that, and more where you think i'm doing that

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I guess my question is less why you think scum!me would do that, and more where you think i'm doing that

I felt like you did when I replaced in talking about me rather than to me.

I think that was a function of being very vla that night and just prioritizing just being caught up over trying to enagage.

I only got back today

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Gobble do you think i'm actively still not attempting to engage you?

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Yeah ok i dont get where this read is coming from either

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What read?

Yours on me

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What read?

Yours on me

I’m sorry? I didn’t recently mention a read on you. Or do you mean “read” as in wanting you to engage with me?

I thought you've been insinuating you scumread me for not engaging you ?

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That's obviously untrue given that just posts before I was trying to get you to vote someone else.

I mean they have a point

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No?

I'm saying you've been indicating you want to vote gobble's slot for a while, which you kinda just denied.

I have no idea what that post means ^

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I think you would think literally anyone scumreading me for literally any reason had a point because that's how you deal with scumreads on me.

Like what is this even ...

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I dont know if you're talking to me or gobble but if you're talking to me i feel like your last few posts come out of left field and i dont get where this conversation came from

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I thought 679 was at me ...

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I dont understand like anything you've said in the past page

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I think this is my new town pool:
{Skitter30, Bugspray, Karnage, George Bailey, Non}

I kinda feel like u shaded me for being vla last week, and when i pushed me you dropped a tr on me again

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Also note that he's townpooling Skitter (who has recently expressed that his reason to scumread me made sense even though it didn't) and basically everyone not on the wagon

That's not actually what i said, but ok

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You were pushing back on him saying that you were angling to vote him for a while

I was saying he had a point there, in that you have been indicating you wanted to vote his slot for a while

I wasnt insinuating a tr on him or a scumread on you so much as acknowledging that he had actually made a legtimate point that you were denying

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You were pushing back on him saying that you were angling to vote him for a while

I was saying he had a poin, in that you have been indicating you wanted to vote his slot for a while

I wasnt insinuating a tr on him or a scumread on you so much as acknowledging that he had actually made a legtimate point that you were denying

And i wasnt saying that i agreed with his overall read on u either

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hey if rc is scum i probably die (not saying me dying means that rc is scum, to clarify) so i just want to get it out there: if gobble flips town rc looks significantly worse

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sorry :/ not sure what else you wanted from me, i kinda noped out once it started getting intense last night because i don't like reading that sort of argument

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i'm trying to be better about staying out of conversations i think will turn toxic in ways that will mess with me emotionally :/
i kinda left when rc told you to fuck off because that's right around my limit

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The fuck are you doing calling me scum based on a flip I didn't even want.

Are you Bugspray partner?

ok

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Hey, did anyone receive a friendly neighbor notification?

We either have a doc or jk if i read the new matrix right

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Hey, did anyone receive a friendly neighbor notification?

We either have a doc or jk if i read the new matrix right

So you think scum performed action but nobody died?

Well either that or they chose not to do an action, which i find unlikely

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update

rc is town

? I'm confused

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Heya fl. I'm suspicious if your slot

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@non imh i dont entirely understand what you were trying to say/vote on this page?

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I dont really tr anybody rn

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I’m of the scenario that if you have a potential to have stopped a kill, say it, don’t spray it

? Not sure that outing this rn is a good idea ?

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Why.

You get 2 confirmed townies out of it.

Only if there's a doc (i.e. and not a jk) and then they'll die tonight; if there's a doc there has to be another pr too

Tbf i sometimes forget in newbies that there's only 2 nights before lylo, in which case i suppose it makes less of a difference claiming day2

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fine, I saved rc
VOTE: skit

A) i dont understand the previous pg with the rc/bugspray vote thing
B) why are you voting me?

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Because if i'm scum he's who i nk last night about 97% of the time in this pl

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I dont think fl should have encouraged the person who stopped the nk to come out carte blanche

What exactly is bothering you about this convo?

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Oh sweet i was just thinking i was going to vote him

I guess A1 then

Non imh obvs on lovebird

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VOTE: karnage

Second vote - two more to hammer

Pedit UNVOTE:

Ok we should just massclaim i think
Vt

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Ok i think karnage is still scum:

A) why are you not voting the person guiltying you?
B) why of non/fl are you not voting the person cc'ing you?

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Ok

If lovebird is the tracker why does she have a guilty on you for knowing you visited fl last night?

Also from your pov you should know fl did the kill since you targeted him and there was no nk, from your pov there is no other explanation

I feel like that post is overexplained almost

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Everyone should claim when they post

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No my problem is if she saw you visit fl why does she think she has a guilty, and not just that she saw you're a pr .... how does she know that fl was the person nk'd (from the pov you're giving)

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noon question, is it possible for there to be both a jk and doc in this setup?

No, check out the chart in the op

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No my problem is if she saw you visit fl why does she think she has a guilty, and not just that she saw you're a pr .... how does she know that fl was the person nk'd (from the pov you're giving)

how about 824 where non said they "SAVED" flavor leaf??

So you're saying she thinks we're in the doc/tracker setup?

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Ok i guess we can just see what she claims, from her original post i thought she was a cop

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You wanna point to your soft?

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I actually think thats a p good soft

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It does raise your scum equity, Skitter.

You’re not the only one who would kill this slot in that scenario, but ScumYou definitely does kill the slot, especially if you see that I’m replacing into it.

I’d say you’re about neutral right now

I know; scum!me p much always kills you there, but an attempt to nk you doesnt necessitate scum!me

So long as you dont decide to death tunnel me over this i dont particularly have a problem with your assessment

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Lovebird are u a tracker or cop?

I have no problem being tracked

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I don’t feel like Nom knows setup analysis well enough to claim doctor there, so if he did, it’s coming from someone who can.

Tbf i do think he's capable of it
(Not that i'm saying he did, just that i'm saying if he were scum he probably could)

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I don’t believe I’m interacting with players here moreso than just putting a puzzle together, hopefully you can see that.

I actually kinda do

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Ignore my Doctor claim. I re-read my Role PM. I cannot read to save my life, and somehow I managed to pull "Town Doctor" out of it.

Wut

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I'm assuming lovebird is tracker

It might just be karnage/fdse, that's probably my guess

We need george to claim and lovebird to clarify her role before the day ends

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I dont understand how you can mistake, say, a vt role pm for a doc role pm, even if you are very busy studying for exams

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How do you think a doc works on this forum?

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Skitter, I know how they work. I am an alt of someone else. If you really wanted to, I am certain you could figure out who I am by reverse-engineering my posting style a little bit and when I am active; however, I trust that you wouldn't.

So what ... you submitted to the mod the name of the person you would have protected as the doc?

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At first i thought he may have came from a forum where a doc just protects the first nk or something along those lines but i dont underatand how he could have thought that knowing how a doc works without literally submitting rc's name to the mod

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Hello everyone. I have read up the game already, although I do not remember a whole lot about it. The things I do remember are Lovebird being town, George being scum, skitter being town. Anyone else, you'll have to ask for. I do know my predecessor was irredeemably scummy; however, I am town.

Also knowing you're an alt, amished tell ^

(I thought this earlier but i'm not sure it applies to newbies)

Pedit exactly

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I know, she needs to actually claim

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There's scum in karnage/non

I think fdse's doc thing is scummy, i was actually have expecting him to claim tracker to cc lovebird

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*half-expecting

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Skitter, I know how they work. I am an alt of someone else. If you really wanted to, I am certain you could figure out who I am by reverse-engineering my posting style a little bit and when I am active; however, I trust that you wouldn't.

So what ... you submitted to the mod the name of the person you would have protected as the doc?

Yes, and eth0s did not tell me anything along the lines of "You are not the Doctor, I am not sure why you submitted me that."

I'm still kinda dubious, ngl

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I'm not voting until we have a full massclaim

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I'm not voting until we have a full massclaim

@lovebird

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So if karnage is town then scum is exactly nom / fl, right?

Whereas if non is town, fl is town too?

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So if karnage is town then scum is exactly nom / fl, right?

Whereas if non is town, fl is town too?

No, because I’m town, so if Karnage is town, that doesn’t change anything.

If Nom is scum, they knew who they killed, so it was safe to say they protected me.
But I could see the ulterior reasons for you bring it up so I’ll shut up

ok but let's assume i'm not playing from your pov

from *my* pov i think you and non are of the same alignment, unless i'm missing something.

going thru this more carefully:

-> karnage and non cannot both be town (and presumably are not both scum either)

-> so one is telling the truth and one is lying

-> if karnage is town he either prevented the nk on fl or prevented him from making the nk. yeah actually this says nothing about your alignment, but non imh is scum (and presumably either knows his partner got blocked, or that you were the nk). p ballsy move tho to cc the true protective like that, tho

-> if karnage is scum then the nk got docced and both fl and non are town

-> if non imh is town than fl is town and karnage is scum

-> if non imh is scum than karnage is town and he either knew fl made the nk and was roleblocked adn was p gutsy in tying himself to his partner by claiming to have docced, or he knew that the nk on fl failed

i kinda don't think that non imh as scum makes that play there, but i can be wrong

it's probably safer to lynch karnage, i think, because non imh can doc lovebird without affecting her check, and it would conftown two people if karnage's scum

i guess that's where i'm at

of course if non imh is scum then we just lose both prs today/tonight

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So if karnage is town then scum is exactly nom / fl, right?

Whereas if non is town, fl is town too?

Also, skitter, this is a hard deep wolf comment with setup play to end game if you are scum here

no i just didn't think it thru

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fl i never try to lynch you here, i nk you and/or pocket you

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i'm actually not sure i sr karange independantly

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karnage anything else you'd like to say?

stricly setup speaking, i think it's better to be wrong on non imh than to be wrong on karnage

non imh plz just don't be town and lying about being a doctor

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Why are we voting Karnage?

Tbh, I thought Donald was towny but I could be misreading the newbie. And, non today has been a lot worse.

I actually kinda agree with this, ngl

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Why are we voting Karnage?

Tbh, I thought Donald was towny but I could be misreading the newbie. And, non today has been a lot worse.

I actually kinda agree with this, ngl

This is also some really Pennywise shit right now.

I’m 100% getting night killed by you tonight.

Nah if i were scum tonight one od the prs dies, depending on the flip

I basically missed my chance to nk you if i'm scum

And if i were scum with karnage he'd be dead already. I'm not confident tho

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My hesitation with that Skitter scum push, is that I have seen her similarly as town, so I definitely can’t say that kind of stuff seriously. I think it’s natural for me to have some paranoia with the slot.

Skitter isn’t gonna be scum read when she is scum, so that’s something I think about when trying to read Skitter.

Eh i will be sometimes, i just played a game as scum where i was suspected day3-day7 and got lynched in 3way

Why do you think it's karnage over nom again?

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If the team is Karnage/Skitter, their optimal plan is to get Non lynched today, then kill me in the night because no doctor.

Which is why I think we’re on the right track. I feel Karnage would have been lynched by now if they were town.

I'm just baffled that non isnt really getting pushed.

And no, lovebird would die in that scenario

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Hi i think you're a potential karnage partner

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Ok. I reviewed non's early posts, and i think his crumb is fairly convinving.

If karnage is in fact town scum!non would presumably be preparing to crumb cop, jk, and tracker as well, since he'd have no way of knowing at that point which of the 4 roles would be useful later, and i dont see any (obvious) such crumbs for the other roles

Ie if the doc crumb was fake it was very good and very fortuitous.

Lovebird probably ought to track me tonight, if we're right. If we're wrong, it's irrelevant and she's dying, and we just lynch non tomorrow and then we can sort out the last scum with an extra no-lynch available

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Bleh i'm getting cold feet.

I keep thinking if scum could take out both prs for one of their own it's a p good deal so i'm nervous about commiting either way

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I guess it's better to be wrong on the jk than on the doc because if the doc is real we get another track

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Actually i think i worded that badly

Basically if we had to pick one pr to potentially have it's better to have the doc

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VOTE: karnage

Ok if i'm wrong sorry ^

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Gg, thanks eth0s for modding