Mini Normal 2109 | Newbie Quotes II: Newb Boogaloo (Day 3)

[eth0s]

Come on guys, let's get along : ( VOTE: No Lynch since we don't know anything yet.

[eth0s]

Can we vote the moderator?

VOTE: Saladman27

VOTE: SausasaurusRex

scum vote imo

I'm honestly down with this

VOTE: Sausaurus

[eth0s]

what a hoot

A mod RVS vote is worse than a self RVS vote.


VOTE: Sausaurus

Happy Scumday eth0s!

Is it worse than a vote for no lynch?

And thanks!

[eth0s]

I'm pretty sure those were joke votes on you in order to get a reaction out of you.

I wasn't joking. But I like his answer.

VOTE: Joey

[eth0s]

You played a completed game with SausasaurusRex right? Did that factor into this?

yes

[eth0s]

Yes I would like to ride this wagon

VOTE: jake

[eth0s]

19, 20, and 20 all vote vote SausasaurusRex. While this doesn't seem like us, to lynch someone is 7. Those 3 votes got to about 1/2 the lynching point. I don't trust those 3 people (rb, eth0s, & Dolly Parton (Dolly Python))

24 calls the wagon out. While I don't think it would've actually lynch SausasaurusRex, if Rex wasn't Mafia aligned (Since we don't have a FUCKEN ROLELIST) then I would definitely suspect any additional votes on the wagon. I wish we could've seen any additional votes, and decrease the PoE to a few people.

33 is weird. Why would Wake88 want to waste such a wondrous day? (Hey, that alliterated!) I think that this is a suspicious post here, and I'll pay attention to Wake88 more.

I'll just put it here, but Kcdaspot hasn't put much content up to 44. I hope to see content from you later.

Invisible votes me for inactivity, but doesn't seem to respond much to 46. Why?

Kcdaspot comes out with 52. No explanation, just "eth0s is town." This might be TMI, but so blatant and so..

something

... that it went mainly un-noticed.
Rex does notice it and responds in 54.
Kcdaspot replies in 57 with "Interaction with alim".
Then the subject is dropped. WTF? You don't explain what exactly with the interaction spewed them as town. That post is really weird. I don't like Kcdaspot here.

63 seems to be a light push against me for voting invisible. This seems like TMI, while WKIng Invisi.

69 says that my vote is bad because reasons that they don't explain. I repeat, they don't explain their reason. While it might be "I know I'm town, so it's a bad vote" that is LAMIST thinking.
72 is when he says that he's trying to forward the game. Is my vote not forwarding the game? Hm.

96 is a vote on me from eth0s. They didn't explain it, they just said that they liked the wagon.
99 is also a vote on me from Kcdaspot. At least they explained it.

101 This post is contradictory. "First, we have time. Second, we don't have time but we have analysis." Why not just use that analysis to.. analyze other players to find the scum instead of lynching a suspected scum? I don't understand your logic here.
116 is just a "We have time post." Well which is it?

122 seems like TMI.
123 is more TMI.
124 calls out the TMI bullshit that was 122&123
125 denies 124 calling out their bullshit.

Overall, my reads are:

Town

Jake
Alimdia
SausasaurusRex
rb (NULL)
Arkias
Lil Uzi Vert
Rabid Schnauzer (NULL)
Dolly Parton
Joey_
Wake88
Invisibility
Kcdaspot
eth0s

Scum

I do not like this post, not even because I'm the top SR, but the only thing he even had to say about me was just restating what I did. Also there's a ton of useless commentary on other things where he just states what happened without so much as an opinion. I think I'm actually cool with seeing this lynch through to completion.

[eth0s]

Why is tris here (<3) and why isn't she in the VC?

@MOD

I never voted for wake88.

[eth0s]

I'm too tired for this rn. I will be posting some things tomorrow tho

[eth0s]

I should clarify I haven't read since my last post, saw Tris on this page and checked the VC. So I will be posting and catching up tomorrow.

[eth0s]

I'm a mason with wake..

Please unvote.

I'm a mason with wake..

Please unvote.

Like Hell you are.

wake, confirm/deny?

investigative roles target these 2 if both claim mason

Do you really think I would risk such a claim as scum with 1 vote on the border of RVS/real voting?

What this could accomplish for scum!dolly: potentially out PRs/masons

What this could accomplish for town!dolly: ???

seriously what is this weirdness? It feels like a totally uncalled for grab for towncred. And I don't see scum believing/killing that claim even if wake went along with it because the lack of pressure leading up to the claim shows that it's obviously fabricated.

[eth0s]

i wonder how long scum on this site will keep making "joke" claims and not being lynched for it

i wonder how long town will keep doing it and thinking that it actually has any point and that it's not just an egregiously fucking moronic thing to do because of the fluff it generates at best and the misinformation it spreads at worst

scum are informed, town are not. spreading disinformation harms both, but the faction with a better base level of information deals with this harm better. it's anti-town regardless.

i want this player out of the game for 2 reasons:

1. they're likely scum anyway
2. if not, they're garbage at the game anyway

the perfect day1 lynch candidate

I was actually SL'ing rb until this post. damn good post.

[eth0s]

Regarding the fake claim thing, why would scum do it there? Unless you're implying dolly and wake are scum together and wake refused to get entangled in the claim.

townreading dolly because you're overreacting and also another ongoing game so can't talk about it.

Letting people off the hook for scummy behavior because "no way scum does that" is a very dangerous game to play. I for one, don't really want a gamestate where that kind of stuff can fly from "town"

The point you're arguing is just WIFOM

[eth0s]

oh look another time where scum do dumb shit and a bunch of town decide, "nah scum wouldn't do something scummy" and then don't lynch the scum

entirely too many times imo

bruh.

Aren't you the one so experienced on slips??

man I need to stop posting this bit by bit bc im sure this has already been adressed but damn

[eth0s]

I'm inclined to think that invis vs jake is actually SvS. That's pretty rare I must say, but it seems like some light bussing gone wrong.

thats a disgusting read and goes against your whole slip thought process and basically whatever you are doing rn still vote there

I have 0 idea what you just said. Can you reword

rb you should calm down a bit, honestly you are keeping scum from posting

hm....

Please tell me you're not hm'ing because you want to imply that you think joey slipped.

Like I know I just called rb out for what looks like a potential slip but joey's phrasing just isn't one.

On a side note, this game must be crazy lubed up if this many people are slipping.

[eth0s]

Hey guys

What’s shaking?

this shake weight, I'm putting in some serious reps. Wanna join?

[eth0s]

Dolly, rb, Alimdia, do you also feel that Jake's post comes off as Try-Hard Scum?

126

Damned if I make content, Damned if I don't. Would you rather want me to not produce content and get mislynched?

Oh my god please.

Guys... Guys?

Why is noone looking at this?

That is seriously the worst kind of post you can make right now... do you have really nothing to say over the freaking four pages of content between your you voting yourself and now?

I didn't have time to read them. I was just skimming over them. Where is your content? Why are most of your posts fluff?

Kcda: "jake did x, x is very bad, why is no one talking about it?"
jake: *does x again*

[eth0s]

at this point i can't read saus apart from "i am hugely worried about how i'm perceived" but they seem to think that's what the game is actually about for both alignments

don't know how to interpret it

their ISO in this game is def worth a read imo
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=81070

[eth0s]

VOTE: jake
post

Opportunistic jump on the jake wagon me thinks.

how on earth is that opportunistic?

Read on before you post ffs. People correct themselves later all the time. You are doing nobody any favors by doing catchup style posts like this

I disagree with this sentiment but I'll only explain why if you actually care about my reasoning

[eth0s]

All you got to do is find 2 to 3 scums and the rest of the people should be town

Theres this thing called being wrong?

it's helpful for me. feel free to ignore obsoleted comments.

Nah it's not. I had someone forever catching up and they were flooding the thread with fluff. And so far you've been very similar to them. Only caught up to page 4....
I can't help but feel like you want to seem like you're contributing by commenting on most posts when they are either resolved or as you said... obsolete later.

I hate this post because of the tone and stubbornness of it. Like what is the point of telling someone what doesn't help them? Why are you being so much more aggressive already than you ever were in newbie 1962, and over this of all things?

Other than what looks like a difference in meta this post doesn't really help me sort you, so I could say you're just fluffing the thread up with this post too.

[eth0s]

at this point i can't read saus apart from "i am hugely worried about how i'm perceived" but they seem to think that's what the game is actually about for both alignments

don't know how to interpret it

saus has been giving me vibes of open wolfing troll veteran or a genuine new player who flipped town but is being extremely self-conscious (trait I historically associate much more w/ scum than town)

It would make sense for you to perceive it as scum. If you look back at my previous games, you’ll see I’ve only ever played scum before, never town, so I apologise if my priorities are slightly wrong.

alright, so does anyone in this game jump out as you as being likely scummy or towny saus?

I think Jake the Wolfie is town. I know some people disagree, but he’s playing very similar to the last game I had with him when he was town. I know meta arguments aren’t great, but I think if you’ll look at newbie game 1966 you’ll see what I mean.

I don’t like the look of Dolly. Even if the mason claim was a joke, it wasn’t a good one, and only served to make people suspicious of her. Not a good play for scum or town. This alone isn’t good enough for a lynch in further consideration, however. UNVOTE: Dolly Parton

Kcdaspot isn’t great either. He frequently says things without justifying them (see 146, 52 (which is followed by the vague 57) and 290 (why exactly is it null? Can we have an explanation?) for examples). However, this isn’t scum-indicative by itself.

I think Invisible’s slip is worth following through. Invisible also doesn’t seem to try to make himself look townish to other players either. He mocks Kcdaspot’s style of writing in 123. However, like Kcdaspot (and Dolly), he fails to provide reasoning for some of his posts.

I think that currently, the best thing to do is to follow through with Invisible’s slip and lynch him, though this could change later depending on what happens.

VOTE: Invisible

If you think a perceived slip is the best info we have for a wagon rn, how do you feel about the one alimdia made (pointed out by joey)? I kinda get the feeling you're more worried about invis dying than you are about punishing scummy behavior.

[eth0s]

at this point i can't read saus apart from "i am hugely worried about how i'm perceived" but they seem to think that's what the game is actually about for both alignments

don't know how to interpret it

saus has been giving me vibes of open wolfing troll veteran or a genuine new player who flipped town but is being extremely self-conscious (trait I historically associate much more w/ scum than town)

or newer scum who thinks he can get away with hiding behind his newbishness.

apparently ethos has experience with him. i would like to hear more from ethos about him.

well.. what aspect do you want to hear about? ngl I don't understand why you'd say something like that without asking me a relevant question or something

[eth0s]

I don't like Kcdaspot's slot. So far they have generated more fluff than a cotton candy machine.

VOTE: Kcdaspot

if you're town can you please stop doing things that make me want to lynch you? I'm getting badtown vibes. No offense, but like, I've basically come to TSTBS read on you, and if that's the best I'm gonna get then I will be paranoid af over you all game.

[eth0s]

VOTE: alimdia

off town meta

most convincing "slip" yet

aggression looks fake, like he is trying to feign frustration with tris "fluffing the thread" for LAMIST reasons

[eth0s]

@Wake88 and Lil Uzi Vert:

How do you feel about alimdia, RB, tris, kcda, and each other?

[eth0s]

I feel pretty good about RB, Joey, kcda slot, and Arkias being town. In that order.

[eth0s]

@Wake88 and Lil Uzi Vert:

How do you feel about alimdia, RB, tris, kcda, and each other?

The only player I have a good amount of experience with is rb. His play here feels like his town game. The others haven’t made much of an impression on me yet.

I get that you're generally lurky and don't really case things but I truly don't see how you have nothing to say about anyone but rb

[eth0s]

EYYYY BILLY MY MAN

[eth0s]

I'm loving these replacements

[eth0s]

Eth0s, we played anywhere but 223 together, where you pulled one of the weirdest gambits I ever saw when you were town?

yeah we played in Newbie 1950 together, too.

[eth0s]

I read everything first this time. And this game is a mess. I actually kind of want to policy lynch dolly for trying to strong arm the day in such a shitty way. I'm also not in the mood to answer the 50 questions directed at me right now.

Curious why Jake is no longer on rb's lynch list.
Curious why wake88 commenting on everything without posting any reads is supposed to be "evolved townplay".
Curious why it looks like tris is trying to buddy me.

Ngl this seems like a really bad D1

[eth0s]

Like dolly/Jake might be tvt but letting both of them live here means putting up with a bad and troll game state for the rest of the game

[eth0s]

You shouldn't be upset that I caught scum. It's unorthodox but it workrd. Letting Jake survive this lynch will just pushbhim into endgame eventually. Who wants to Lylo with Jake this game?

That slot is compromised.

tbh claiming your main is the only thing that might make me consider not hammering you

[eth0s]

on that note

dolly is at L-1

I won't state intent to hammer until I answer what's been asked of me, but I don't have the time for that now.

rb please declare L-1 in the future :S

[eth0s]

I never called your play gamethrowing but trying to force the town into this duel situation, the baseless TR on wake that you don't actually believe, and the weird fakeclaim thing do not read as things that are town-motivated.

It could be bad townplay, but if it's that then why do I want you around to keep doing it and forcing town into unhealthy discourse?

[eth0s]

sigh

please don't hammer this before I post again.

I'm starting to think we shouldn't hammer it at all. I'll elaborate on that and much more when I'm on next.

[eth0s]

GG guys, that eth0s vig kill was a stroke of luck on our side, he somehow scum read me when I wasn't really playing off-town meta.

[eth0s]

No worries my man