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I am neighbors with Hectic. We all should claim since scum scum hoods are impossible.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Yeah, and? Doc has a crappy chance of blocking a kill anyway.In post 10, OkaPoka wrote:An excellent way to out doc
I stand by it but obviously others may not.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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We literally don't need the phone operator if we all claim our hoods.In post 15, Something_Smart wrote:
That's not the point-- the primary strength of the doc is simply being able to be confirmed town through claiming.In post 12, Titus wrote:Doc has a crappy chance of blocking a kill anyway.
The doc can also keep scum from killing the phone operator after they claim, at least for one night.
The phone operator inherits the confirmed town status of doctor unless scum CC and he can wait.
We'd eliminate a lot of possibilities and force scum's hand.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Why?In post 16, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Oka is the only one who’s being sensible town.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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No scum can be doubled in a hood. We get a conftown. A lot of scenarios get eliminated.In post 24, OkaPoka wrote:But like titus explain to me the value of outting all the neighborhoods
Scum are forced to nearly play white flag. Every scum lynch townfirms someone. They can't bus scum, shoot the neighbor and claim the hood for themselves.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Didn't tell him. I felt it was obviously superior.In post 49, OkaPoka wrote:titus did hectic go along with your plan?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Doc can't heal the same person two nights in a row.In post 57, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
But why the doc and not the phone operator? Because doc can protect them as long as they remain hidden.In post 51, Pine wrote:Well, I’ve already outed myself as a Neighbor, which was a careless mistake, but I won’t be outing my Neighbor. I suggest we table it until at least D2, and at the start of each day ask ourselves, “Do we need an IC today?”
PE: We don’t get to choose who the IC is. It’s the Doctor.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I feel I'm outvoted but this is agreeable for now.In post 84, Krazy wrote:
She's town but we should be sticking to "strategy A" until there's a town consensus to switch to "strategy B"In post 78, OkaPoka wrote:whats ur 2 cents on titus krazy
Strategy A: Hoods aren't revealed until L-1 with intent to protect the doc
Strategy B: All hoods are revealed to guarantee the production of ICs upon redflips
We can always switch to B, but we can't go back to A once we go B.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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It's not totally breakable no. The closest we can come in any scenario is forcing scum into a series of bad decisions.In post 93, Elsa Jay wrote:I don't think the entire Team Mafia pick a setup easily breakable to give to us.
We just gotta be smart.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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It's not that I'm agreeable, it's just that I'm not winning that. I have got too many stubborn voices to get through. Your read is a fair read, I just would like to get onto scumhunting now. I'll give you town points for commenting on this, since it's consistent with what I usually say.In post 102, Pine wrote:
I feel like scum!OkaPoka isn’t this stubborn and disagreeable hereIn post 98, OkaPoka wrote:actually there is literally no reason to ever massclaim dude unless you are looking for team solves/ruling out partners
just claim at intent or nk
...and I worry that Town!Titus isn’t this agreeable umm everIn post 100, Titus wrote:
I feel I'm outvoted but this is agreeable for now.In post 84, Krazy wrote:
She's town but we should be sticking to "strategy A" until there's a town consensus to switch to "strategy B"In post 78, OkaPoka wrote:whats ur 2 cents on titus krazy
Strategy A: Hoods aren't revealed until L-1 with intent to protect the doc
Strategy B: All hoods are revealed to guarantee the production of ICs upon redflips
We can always switch to B, but we can't go back to A once we go B.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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The setup hasn't been run before, so the arguments are more theoretical rather than practical.In post 105, OkaPoka wrote:unless you can give me a mathematical argument on why just lol outting all the neighborhood has a +ev wr in comparison to the strat of outing upon flips/intent
im just going to treat that argument like flat earthers
and to me saying ur wrong to flat earthers isnt being stubborn
I'm mostly concerned about scum hammering before the flip can be announced. Second, announcing at flips doesn't give us the hard mathmatical eliminations to hunt from. IN a purely optimal sense where town are presumed to have zero scumhunting skills, it's not optimal. I'm not playing mafia in that world though. I'm playing in a world where we play and more information means smarter choices and smarter wagons.
I read people by their associations to each other. By eliminating possible teams, I get a better grip on the game and VCA works better. It just gives a hard data approach to the game.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Math's thoughts Nancy is town or scum with Elsa. Oka is lock!town. He's only read through page 1 though.
I'm not sure what to think on the strength of his reads.
I'm strongly leaning town on Pine, Krazy and Oka at the moment. I doubt Elsa and Nancy are scum. That's a little self-centered and convienent to think scum just immediately voted me because I had the optimal plan. I would expect that either Elsa or Nancy is scum but not both.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Did you just wake up on the disagreeable side of the bed or what?In post 109, Elsa Jay wrote:Time to lolhammer for the TM points then.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Absolutely not. I cede they had zero input in putting together the hoods but whomever's their partners are is straight up impossible to be S v S. That's why I figured it would be such common sense to out the hoods and then scum hunt for people who read based on relationships with other people. Then, follow that through with who dies and who lives.In post 113, OkaPoka wrote:scum literally have no hand in putting together the neighborhoods thus the data you would get rn is = zero
Why are Krazy's posts bad?
What are your thoughts on Elsa and Nancy?
I'm off to bed, but I'll follow up tmo.
P-edit: Happy belated birthday!ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Math (Mathblade) my teammate and brother.In post 117, Elsa Jay wrote:
Math... Hasn't commented in this game yet, but you claimed partners with Hectic.Titus wrote:Math's thoughts Nancy is town or scum with Elsa. Oka is lock!town. He's only read through page 1 though.
I'm not sure what to think on the strength of his reads.
The fuck?
And yes. I do things that are common sense mechanically smart to do without asking. It's my game. I'll seek my teammates input on reads/strategies but I'm not beholden to them.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I am going to be minimally present for a day or two.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VOTE: Nancy
Drunk!Titus is following Mathblade reads to see what the fuck happens.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Mathblade is my genetic alt but a separate person. He's posting in the normal.In post 363, pisskop wrote:
math, dont you play any more? or is it all alts?In post 360, Titus wrote:MathbladeShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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TT?In post 362, pisskop wrote:what if you voted pine with us and when they TT i help you wagon krazy
Pine's likely a bad vote?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Cut the shit and vote Nancy w me?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I'm confident I want to see what happens.In post 370, OkaPoka wrote:Are you confident in Nancy or is it just Mathblade?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Do you TR Nancy?In post 372, OkaPoka wrote:ok titusShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Why? Mathblade is giving me an earful about how he taught Nancy how to play scum. Bitching about town idiots was one of his recommendations to her.In post 374, OkaPoka wrote:yesShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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When's the last time she's done it as town?In post 376, OkaPoka wrote:nancy always bitches about town
@Nancy, I am drunk and husband is trying to fucking steal money from me like I am a door mat. Be glad you aren't male.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Math can be wrong. But I am looking independently. You don't exactly feel like I am used to, so I am looking into it by applying pressure.In post 379, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
Math was also insistent that Kokichi was lockscum in DnD, your point?In post 375, Titus wrote:
Why? Mathblade is giving me an earful about how he taught Nancy how to play scum. Bitching about town idiots was one of his recommendations to her.In post 374, OkaPoka wrote:yes
Why are you so bitchy if Math is always wrong? I played with him in Civilization mafia. I can ignore him if he's wrong.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Was the tone the same? I assume without reading Nancy was town in baton pass.In post 383, OkaPoka wrote:tbf piss your example isn't effective since nancy's alignment isn't known
you need to go dig up past games
pedit: every game ive played with nancy she has bitched about town play
but specifically
baton pass, did a whole bit about how stupid town was for not scumreading me and i was the most obvious scum ever
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Great why?In post 384, pisskop wrote:
i have a net town read on her.In post 383, OkaPoka wrote:tbf piss your example isn't effective since nancy's alignment isn't known
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Again, I'm not doing this because I think Math is right or wrong.In post 386, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
I don’t understand how the guy who wrongly deathtunnels town, is your most reliable source suddenly for making reads. He also kept insisting Sakura was scum, which was one of the reasons we mislynched him in that FG game.In post 380, Titus wrote:
When's the last time she's done it as town?In post 376, OkaPoka wrote:nancy always bitches about town
@Nancy, I am drunk and husband is trying to fucking steal money from me like I am a door mat. Be glad you aren't male.
I'm doing it because I want to see what happens.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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If you are, then why are you angry? Broken calendar right once a year?In post 388, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
I will also disregard every single read you make in any game ever if you base it on Math.In post 382, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:@Titus, if you’re seriously going to follow Math’s reads, then I will be advocating PLing you in every game we’re in. Not joking.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Mathblade is not directing me. I am doing this of my own volition.In post 390, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I’m starting to doubt my Titus tr, she’s way to smart to allow Math to direct her.
What do you think of my other reads? Of Krazy?
P.S. I think Elsa, Oka, SS and Pine are town.
@SS, See Civilization mafia. Math won't flip any opinion of mine.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Not sure what this is about. I can't remember what GS stands for or why it's relevant. RC is a narcissist who cares more about his ego than winning. If he looks good or it's easier for him, it's the right play. Sort RC by where his ego is.In post 396, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I’m also seriously considering redacting my defense of you against RC in GS.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Ok so totally irrelevant.In post 405, OkaPoka wrote:its gameshow mafia next questionShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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So you agree with my townreads? Do you think Krazy is town?In post 407, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
And if you were actually using your brain here, I would also be in this list. I had better stop or I may say something to harm our friendship. :/In post 398, Titus wrote:
Mathblade is not directing me. I am doing this of my own volition.In post 390, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I’m starting to doubt my Titus tr, she’s way to smart to allow Math to direct her.
What do you think of my other reads? Of Krazy?
P.S. I think Elsa, Oka, SS and Pine are town.
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It's not relevant. I barely recall the game. Force Nancy to talk reads please not past irrelevant baggage with a slot that's not even here.In post 410, OkaPoka wrote:ok nancy ur being excessive titus was not the reason why we lost gsShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Bullshit. Town you has reads on people.In post 412, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
I don’t know. Rn, I’m too tilted about you trying to mislynch me for God only knows what reasons.In post 408, Titus wrote:
So you agree with my townreads? Do you think Krazy is town?In post 407, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
And if you were actually using your brain here, I would also be in this list. I had better stop or I may say something to harm our friendship. :/In post 398, Titus wrote:
Mathblade is not directing me. I am doing this of my own volition.In post 390, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I’m starting to doubt my Titus tr, she’s way to smart to allow Math to direct her.
What do you think of my other reads? Of Krazy?
P.S. I think Elsa, Oka, SS and Pine are town.
@SS, See Civilization mafia. Math won't flip any opinion of mine.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I'll evaluate my vote when I'm sober. I'm not opposed to the wagon and won't derail it for now.In post 416, OkaPoka wrote:titus vote krazy !ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Ok. Then all the merrier reason to help explain Nancy to me. If RC was on her team it would make sense why Nancy is so defiant but...In post 418, OkaPoka wrote:there is no wagon its sitting at one vote we are 25 hours into this gameShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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VOTE: KrazyShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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@Krazy, We aren't playing with who can beat us. Anyone can be lynched. If we were, we'd have to vote Nancy because her response is to belittle anyone who suspects her is toxic as fuck. We vote scum.
Pine is pretty surely town. So is Oka.
If I am wrong, I'll suck it up and deal with it then.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Pops might be scum.
@Nancy I accept your angry apology but what game is HP? I can't respond without knowing the acronyms.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Bob, what do you think of Pops?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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So what is it you actually want an apology for Nancy? I'm confused. I value our friendship too much to apologize just to do so. Plus, you'd see through that.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I kinda see a pops and bob team.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I'm sorry that you felt ridiculed and bullied. That was never my intent. I just wanted to get a read on you myself. Math keeps saying there's an off factor with you and Elsa Jay. Not sure I agree.
I'm more interested in pops bob and hectic. Hectic has not displayed s strong reaction to me outing the hood.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I like the idea of Hectic v pops wagons.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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What specifically changed your mind? You had town vibes because I felt genuine before you left. Now I don't.In post 657, Hectic wrote:Do you mean a lot of it is about Titus? It's the thing I most disagreed with since the consensus opinion was settling on Titus town, so more reason to argue/talk about it.
What is your pops read?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Gee, tell the person that has high odds of being scum your breaking plan first.In post 668, Hectic wrote:Hopkirk thinks if you've got a breaking strat or idea, you post about it in your neighbourhood first to see if your neighbour points out any obvious problems. Too trigger happy and a little LAMIST.
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Yeah, my breaking theories rarely help sort players. The reaction should be public. Period.In post 672, Something_Smart wrote:Gee, tell the person you want to sort something that might help you sort them.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Oh Amrun, how's my favorite narcissist reading this game?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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To be clear, I'm asking about RC. I like him as a person, but he's still a vain self-centered narcissist.In post 700, Titus wrote:Oh Amrun, how's my favorite narcissist reading this game?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Amrun and him are on the same teams. Check the first post in each thread. Both have the word Gap.In post 703, OkaPoka wrote:RC isn't on any team hereShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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How many shots of what?In post 708, OkaPoka wrote:Titus how many shotsShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Fuck.In post 709, popsofctown wrote:
They're different teams although you're making the case for why maybe they should have rejected the troll name that MathDino's team used.In post 707, Titus wrote:
Amrun and him are on the same teams. Check the first post in each thread. Both have the word Gap.In post 703, OkaPoka wrote:RC isn't on any team here
Never mind Amrun. Well there's some suspicion that goes away on that slot.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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If you're providing. I'm depressed and sober as fuck right now at the moment.In post 713, popsofctown wrote:if it's not the One True Liquor vodka then we're not neighbors anymore </3
That probably means I should tackle this game harder as my reads are more accurate when depressed but I can't be arsed.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Well I'm not voting Nancy today.
I'll do Eddie Cane, pops, DrDoolittle, Krazy, Hectic, bob3141 or NaCl.
Pretty much everyone else on this list is town or town enough for today (Amrun). Can we lynch today please?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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RC would never be a non-entity in team mafia, especially with how little he thinks of me.
His absence was conspicuous and made me think Amrun's team was not involved. However RC wasn't on his team soooShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Cowbells is not relevant to this game. I can avoid talking about him here.In post 818, pisskop wrote:RC is entirely too talked about over the 4 games. Can we please blacklist the pairing of the letters R and C for the duration of this game?ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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@NACL why aren't you voting? Too salty? (Sorry couldn't resist the pun.)ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Then how to we have such a large organic townblock?In post 1002, bob3141 wrote:I do get the feeling that the scum could be trying to scum read their neighbours so they can get rid of them before they flip.
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