Mini Theme 2112: Skyrim Mod Upick Town Win

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Skyrim Mod uPick

Playerlist:
1. Pine
2. TiphaineDeath
3. Mastina

GuyInFreezer

4. Zenith
5. Eve
6. Dongfish- Hydra of Dongempire and Formerfish
7. Blatant Scum
8. alimdia
9. Wake88
10. Sujimichi
11. popsofctown
12. Xtoxm

Aeronaut

13. gobbledygook

Spoiler: Alive

Zenith
Dongfish
alimdia
Wake88
gobbledygook

Spoiler: Dead

TiphaineDeath

- Flip

Pine

- Flip

popsofctown

- Flip

Blatant Scum

- Flip

Xtoxm

- Flip

Mastina

- Flip
Sujimichi - ???

Eve

- Flip

Game rules:
1. I am the mod. Not like a game mod. Wait, no, I am a game mod, but not like a mod for a game. Wait, uh, how to explain this- I am in charge and what I say goes.
2. Votetags are preferable to bolding votes, but both will be counted
3. You can keep posting after a lynch occurs until I lock the thread.
4: The day phase will last at most 16 IRL days, and is composed of a 48 hour Morning phase and a conventional day phase. Nights last 48 hours.
5. I can change or add things to the rules at any time, though not maliciously. (See rule 8)
6.

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is my colour. Do not use it. My apologies to users of inferior forum styles.
7. No copying exactly what is stated in either private topics or in PMs from me unless explicitly allowed. Paraphrase please.
8. This game is not bastard.
9. Tell me before you V/LA.
10. You get a prod if you don't post for 48 hours. I'll replace you if you fail to pick up within 24 hours of a prod. If you get prodded a lot and I think the situation is getting out of hand, I might suggest you ask for a replacement or even force replace.
11. Death is final. But you can have a contentless bah post when you do die.
12. Don't discuss the game outside of threads specifically for the game.
13. Do not discuss ongoing games.
14. Site rules apply, but you already knew that.
15. Read the mechanics post. It's simpler than some I've done before.

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Mechanics

Day phases for this game will be split into two sections.
The first section, Morning, will last 48 hours, and will be a plurality vote- meaning that if deadline runs out, the choice with the highest number of votes at the end of the deadline will be selected.

The choices in this phase will be between three directions to take a Skyrim character, represented by the three standing stones near Riverwood for flavour reasons. Once a stone is chosen, either by majority vote or plurality at deadline, the level of its associated path will increase by 1 and the stone power will be considered active for the rest of the day/night cycle.

The level of paths may change by means other than this vote, and may affect roles in the game. All 3 paths start the game at level 0.

The active stone power, aside from its stated effect in the table below, may also affect roles in the game.

Stone	Path	Stone Effect	Current Path Level
Warrior Stone	Board and Sword	The voting in the rest of the day phase will be plurality at deadline.	2
Thief Stone	Stealth Archer	All private topics will be locked for the rest of the day phase.	4
Mage Stone	Wizard	All players will take 1 less vote to lynch in the rest of the day phase.	1

This game uses SkyNAR, which is like NAR except I'll prioritise abilities linked with an active stone power if I can.

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Role PMs are going out now! (Finally.)

The game will start when I am awake and I have received 7/13 confirmations

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The first Morning has begun!
If you're unsure what this means, then it's because you haven't read the rules.

Okay, I've finally got my mod list sorted out. Time to actually play some Skyrim! But what kind of character should I play?

Stone	Votes	Voters
Warrior Stone	0	-
Thief Stone	0	-
Mage Stone	0	-
Not Voting	-	Pine, TiphaineDeath, GuyInFreezer, Zenith, Eve, Dongfish, Blatant Scum, alimdia, Wake88, Sujimichi, popsofctown, Aeronaut, gobbledygook

The morning will end in (expired on 2020-01-13 07:00:00)

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Stone	Votes	Voters
Thief Stone	7	popsofctown, Pine, Zenith, Aeronaut, alimdia, Eve, Blatant Scum
Warrior Stone	1	Wake88
Mage Stone	0	-
Not Voting	-	TiphaineDeath, GuyInFreezer, Dongfish, Sujimichi, gobbledygook

The morning has ended. The Thief Stone has been selected.

Guess it'll be a sneak archer after all.

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Damn why didn't I farm pagetops

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The best time to farm a pagetop is 20 posts ago. The second best time to farm a pagetop is now.

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The day begins!

Phew, that's character creation done. Time to finally actually play the game!
-Game immediately closes to desktop-
I spoke too soon! Time to remove mods until the game works!

Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
Not Voting	---	---	Pine, TiphaineDeath, GuyInFreezer, Zenith, Eve, Dongfish, Blatant Scum, alimdia, Wake88, Sujimichi, popsofctown, Aeronaut, gobbledygook

The day will end in (expired on 2020-01-25 22:00:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

[jjh927]

Zu'u Koraav Kel Naar

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Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
TiphaineDeath	3	L-4	popsofctown, Eve, Sujimichi
Blatant Scum	2	L-5	Blatant Scum, TiphaineDeath
Pine	2	L-5	Aeronaut, gobbledygook
Aeronaut	1	L-6	Dongfish
alimdia	1	L-6	Pine
Wake	1	L-6	alimdia
Not Voting	---	---	GuyInFreezer, Zenith, Wake88

The day will end in (expired on 2020-01-25 22:00:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

[jjh927]

Apologies. I assume you announced it in Dragon language as well. That was a nice touch.

Yeah I'm gonna consider adding that you have to cower before the might of my thu'um to the rules

[jjh927]

Dongfish and Aeronaut have been prodded

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Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
TiphaineDeath	4	L-3	popsofctown, Eve, Sujimichi, alimdia
Blatant Scum	2	L-5	Blatant Scum, gobbledygook
alimdia	2	L-5	Pine, TiphaineDeath
Pine	1	L-6	Aeronaut
Aeronaut	1	L-6	Dongfish
Not Voting	---	---	GuyInFreezer, Zenith, Wake88

The day will end in (expired on 2020-01-25 22:00:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

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GuyInFreezer and Pine have been prodded.

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Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
TiphaineDeath	6	L-1	popsofctown, Eve, Sujimichi, alimdia, Dongfish, Pine
Dongfish	2	L-5	Blatant Scum, gobbledygook
alimdia	1	L-6	TiphaineDeath
Not Voting	---	---	GuyInFreezer, Zenith, Wake88, Aeronaut

The day will end in (expired on 2020-01-25 22:00:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

[jjh927]

Replacing GuyInFreezer

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Mastina replaces GIF.

Oh oops I missed a hammer. I thought I was doing a pretty good job with keeping these votecounts fairly regular, too

Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
TiphaineDeath	7	Lynch	popsofctown, Eve, Sujimichi, alimdia, Dongfish, Pine, gobbledygook
alimdia	2	L-5	TiphaineDeath, Zenith
Dongfish	1	L-6	Blatant Scum
Not Voting	---	---	Mastina, Wake88, Aeronaut

The day will end now because a lynch was achieved.
With 13 alive it took 7 to lynch.

[jjh927]

Immersive Weapons might be causing some of these issues. Let's see whether removing it does anything.

. . .

Nope. It has literally done nothing. Oh well.

TiphaineDeath has been lynched!
TiphaineDeath was aligned with the

town

!

Spoiler: Flip

Hullo TiphaineDeath! Your role PM is based on Immersive Weapons, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Immersive Weapons
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: Warrior

Role: Weaponsmith (Path Cop): Once per night, you may target a player to learn the stone associated with their role PM, if any. If the Warrior Stone is active, you may instead target two players.


General Flavour:
I've always seen Immersive Weapons as a core mod that should always have its place in a load order. The main reason for this is the diversity it brings; no more is it 3 types of one-handed weapon and 3 types of two-handed weapon. Well, actually it still is, but what Immersive Weapons treats as an axe for game reasons is not necessarily an axe.

How does the role link with the flavour:
You can determine what kind of build someone is going for by the weapons they carry.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

[jjh927]

Night 1 begins now, and will end in (expired on 2020-01-20 06:00:00). Please send in your actions!

[jjh927]

Daystart will be a bit later

[jjh927]

Huh? Two mods have just gone from the load order? Well, let's see whether the game runs fine without them.

Hmm, I think one of these was causing issues, but not the other. I guess this is progress.

Pine died in the night.
Pine was aligned with the

Mafia

!

Spoiler: Pine Flip

Hullo Pine! Your role PM is based on Improved World Map with Roads, and you are aligned with the mafia!

Mod: Improved World Map with Roads
Alignment: Mafia
Associated Stone: None

Role:
Motion-Predicting Rolecop: Once per night, you may target a player and predict whether or not they will act. If you are correct, you will determine their role.


General Flavour:
Improved World Map with Roads was actually, if I recall correctly, the first Skyrim mod I ever downloaded. Giving up fast travelling generally serves to enhance your gameplay experience- provided you can actually figure out where the hell you're supposed to get around some mountain properly, which is where this mod comes in.

How does the role link with the flavour:
You've got a very good map there. If you can figure out whether someone is going somewhere, you can figure out what they're up to.


Scum Stuff:
Data corrupted

You win when the mafia controls at least 50% of the vote during the day phase.

popsofctown died in the night.
popsofctown was aligned with the

town

!

Spoiler: popsofctown Flip

Hullo popsofctown! Your role PM is based on Scaling Stopper, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Scaling Stopper
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: None

Role:
Level-Based Rolestopper: Once per night, you may target a player. If their role has a stone associated with it, and its path level is equal to or higher than the current cycle number, their night actions cannot fail and they will be protected from one nightkill.


General Flavour:
Scaling in Skyrim is indeed pretty immersion breaking. It is perfectly believable that some people or things are stronger than others- less so that the general strength of everything there is will increase as the dragonborn levels. There should always be lowly bandits. Stronger bandits should exist, but they shouldn't suddenly become the rule rather than the exception because one guy got really tough.


How does the role link with the flavour:
If your level is strong enough for wherever you happen to be, you shouldn't expect anything to go wrong.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

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Morning 2 begins!

Stone	Path	Stone Effect	Current Path Level
Warrior Stone	Board and Sword	The voting in the rest of the day phase will be plurality at deadline.	0
Thief Stone	Stealth Archer	All private topics will be locked for the rest of the day phase.	2
Mage Stone	Wizard	All players will take 1 less vote to lynch in the rest of the day phase.	0

I've done some sneaking around and shooting things from far away. I could keep doing that, or I could try to raise some other skills before the next time the game crashes.

Stone	Votes	Voters
Warrior Stone	0	-
Thief Stone	0	-
Mage Stone	0	-
Not Voting	-	Mastina, Zenith, Eve, Dongfish, Blatant Scum, alimdia, Wake88, Sujimichi, Aeronaut, gobbledygook

The morning will end in (expired on 2020-01-23 05:00:00) or with 6 voters for a stone.

[jjh927]

Oh I should probably put a votecount here even though it's not a pagetop due to that important announcement from gobble

Stone	Votes	Voters
Warrior Stone	4	Blatant Scum, Wake88, Zenith, Eve
Thief Stone	3	alimdia, Sujimichi, Aeronaut
Mage Stone	1	gobbledygook
Not Voting	-	Mastina, Dongfish

The morning will end in (expired on 2020-01-23 05:00:00) or with 6 voters for a stone.

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The morning has ended. The Warrior Stone has been selected by plurality.

Stone	Votes	Voters
Warrior Stone	4	Blatant Scum, Wake88, Zenith, Eve
Thief Stone	4	alimdia, Sujimichi, gobbledygook, Dongfish
Mage Stone	0	-
Not Voting	-	Mastina, Aeronaut

Ah, I can never resist a bit of melee.

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The day begins!

It's getting pretty hard to play the game when it keeps closing to desktop.

Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
Not Voting	---	---	mastina, Zenith, Eve, Dongfish, Blatant Scum, alimdia, Wake88, Sujimichi, Aeronaut, gobbledygook

The day will end in (expired on 2020-02-06 11:00:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

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The morning has ended. The Warrior Stone has been selected by plurality.

Stone	Votes	Voters
Warrior Stone	4	Blatant Scum, Wake88, Zenith, Eve
Thief Stone	4	alimdia, Sujimichi, gobbledygook, Dongfish
Mage Stone	1	-
Not Voting	-	Mastina, Aeronaut

Ah, I can never resist a bit of melee.

Who is the 1 vote for mage stone or is that a typo? And what are the rules surrounding if there is a tie vote?

That was a typo

In the case of a tie, plurality is settled by whichever tied option was most recently at a higher number of votes, or failing that whichever tied option reached its current total first.

[jjh927]

Post 674 features a personal attack I find is serious enough to warrant a warning. Please keep your conduct civil in future or I will be forced to take action.

[jjh927]

@Mod What would happen if the morning phase ends with nobody placing any votes for any stones?

I hadn't actually thought of that

No stone would be in effect for the phase in that case.

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Zu'u

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laan

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kel naar

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Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
alimdia	2	L-4	Wake88, Dongfish
Aeronaut	1	L-5	gobbledygook
Blatant Scum	1	L-5	Eve
Not Voting	---	---	mastina, Zenith, Blatant Scum, alimdia, Aeronaut, Sujimichi

The day will end in (expired on 2020-02-06 11:00:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[jjh927]

Prodded Aeronaut. Probably should have done that sooner.

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Zu'u koraav kel naar

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Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
Blatant Scum	2	L-4	Eve, alimdia
Aeronaut	2	L-4	gobbledygook, Sujimichi
alimdia	1	L-5	Wake88
Not Voting	---	---	mastina, Zenith, Blatant Scum, Aeronaut, Dongfish

The day will end in (expired on 2020-02-06 11:00:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.


Searching for a replacement for Aeronaut

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Xtoxm replaces Aeronaut!

[jjh927]

Prodding Eve and Gobbledygook

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Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
Blatant Scum	3	L-3	alimdia, Sujimichi, Zenith
Eve	2	L-4	Wake88, Dongfish
Dongfish	1	L-5	Eve
Xtoxm	1	L-5	Blatant Scum
Not Voting	---	---	mastina, Xtoxm, gobbledygook

The day will end in (expired on 2020-02-06 11:00:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.


The real pagetop was the votes we made along the way

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Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
Blatant Scum	6	Lynch	alimdia, Sujimichi, mastina, Xtoxm, gobbledygook, Zenith
Mastina	2	L-4	Blatant Scum, Eve
Eve	2	L-4	Wake88, Dongfish
Not Voting	---	---

The day has ended because a lynch was achieved.
With 10 alive it took 6 to lynch.

[jjh927]

Violens might have something to do with these issues? Maybe I was running a compatibility patch or something?

. . .

Oh. Yeah that's done nothing good. And now I'm gonna be slightly frustrated occasionally while playing.

Blatant Scum has been lynched!
Blatant Scum was aligned with the

town

!

Spoiler: Flip

Hullo Blatant Scum! Your role PM is based on Violens, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Violens
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: Warrior

Role:
Killmove Settings: Once per night, if the warrior stone is active, you may change one of the following game settings from false to true or vice versa:
-Killing actions cannot be roleblocked- False
-Kill-immune roles (eg bulletproof) are enabled- True
-The factional nightkill has unique kill flavour- False
-Players associated with the Warrior stone can place hammer votes- True
-Players associated with the Thief stone can place hammer votes- True
-Players associated with the Mage stone can place hammer votes- True

Any settings changed will be publicly announced.

General Flavour:
I actually mostly use Violens so that NPCs can't use killmoves on me because I think killmoves are bullshit and always feel cheated by the inability to dodge just because you're low health. But aside from being able to make the player immune to killmoves, Violens has a whole menu full of settings regarding killmove animations and their triggers.

How does the role link with the flavour:
This is self-explanatory.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

[jjh927]

Night 2 begins now, and will end in (expired on 2020-02-08 15:00:00). Please send in your actions!

[jjh927]

Apologies about being late on the day but it's gonna be even later. I'll do this first thing when I wake up

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Another mod seems to have disappeared from the load order. I don't think it was causing any issues, though.

Xtoxm died in the night.
Xtoxm was aligned with the

town

!

Spoiler: Flip

Hullo Xtoxm! Your role PM is based on Immersive College of Winterhold, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Immersive College of Winterhold
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: Mage

Role:
Neighbour: You are in a hood with some other guild related mods, linked here.
Roleblocker-Jailkeeper: Once per night, you may target a player to cause any actions they perform that night to fail. If the Wizard path is level 5 or more, they will also be protected from any killing actions.
Leveller: During the night, if the Mage Stone is active, the level of the Wizard path will increase by 1.


General Flavour:
Immersive College of Winterhold is a neat little mod that makes the college more of a college. NPCs actually hang out and practice magic, and there's lots of magical stuff you can look at and learn about to gain experience. It also lets you yield the archmage position at the end of the questline to Tolfdir who is, in almost all cases, far more qualified than the dragonborn to be archmage. Although the mod does also make the room you get as a perk of being the archmage far more enticing. . .


How does the role link with the flavour:
It's all about guilds and growing your magical power.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

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Let's get back to the playing. I've got a pretty cool hybrid warrior/thief thing going here, but let's see where more gameplay takes me.

Stone	Votes	Voters
Warrior Stone	0	-
Thief Stone	0	-
Mage Stone	0	-
Not Voting	-	Mastina, Zenith, Eve, Dongfish, alimdia, Wake88, Sujimichi, gobbledygook

The morning will end in (expired on 2020-02-11 13:00:00) or with 5 voters for a stone.

[jjh927]

Kel Naar Tiid

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The morning has ended. The thief stone has been selected.

Stone	Votes	Voters
Warrior Stone	0	-
Thief Stone	5	Sujimichi, alimdia, gobbledygook, Dongfish, Eve
Mage Stone	0	-
Not Voting	-	Mastina, Zenith, Wake88

Oh those dumb bandits. I never tire of seeing them watch their friend die as he is pierced by an arrow, only to lose interest and blame it on the wind.

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The day begins!

You know, sometimes when I'm playing Skyrim and it's very modded, if I ride my horse too fast into certain areas like Dawnstar the game crashes. Maybe it's that?

Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
Not Voting	---	---	mastina, Zenith, Eve, Dongfish, alimdia, Wake88, Sujimichi, gobbledygook

The day will end in (expired on 2020-02-24 17:30:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[jjh927]

Something_Smart replaces Zenith!

[jjh927]

I think I really ought to do a votecount

Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
mastina	3	L-2	gobbledygook, alimdia, Eve
alimdia	1	L-4	Dongfish
Wake88	1	L-4	mastina
Not Voting	---	---	Something_Smart, Wake88, Sujimichi

The day will end in (expired on 2020-02-24 17:30:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

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Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
Eve	3	L-2	mastina, alimdia, gobbledygook
alimdia	1	L-4	Dongfish
Mastina	1	L-4	Eve
Not Voting	---	---	Something_Smart, Wake88, Sujimichi

The day will end in (expired on 2020-02-24 17:30:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[jjh927]

Oops I just fucked up a previous vc rather than putting this new one here. Fixed now

Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
Eve	5	Lynch	mastina, alimdia, gobbledygook, Something_Smart, Sujimichi
alimdia	2	L-3	Dongfish, Eve
Not Voting	---	---	Wake88

The day has ended as a lynch has been achieved.
With 8 alive it took 5 to lynch.

[jjh927]

Maybe if I take out this mod it'll fix the problems?

. . .

Huh? That doesn't even seem to have removed the mod.

Eve has been lynched!
Eve is still alive.

Night has begun, and will end in (expired on 2020-02-21 16:30:00).

[jjh927]

Flip(s) and such soonish

[jjh927]

It seems two mods have disappeared again. At least one was causing some problems, so that's cool, but I actually can't seem to find any trace of the other one?

Mastina died in the night.
Mastina was aligned with the

Mafia

!

Spoiler: Flip

Hullo Mastina! Your role PM is based on CBBE, and you are aligned with the mafia!

Mod: CBBE
Alignment: Mafia
Associated Stone: None

Role:
Compulsive Death Janitor: When you die, the next 2 flips will be janitored, and neither role nor alignment will flip. If you are lynched, your own flip will be janitored in place of one of the 2 flips.


General Flavour:
I shall say no more than an excerpt from the mod's description, which says all anyone needs to know:

CBBE replaces the vanilla female body that all adult female characters (player and NPC) share, with one that is fully customisable through the BodySlide tool and BodySlide's RaceMenu Morphs plugin. By default there are three nude options available that don't require anything but installation, as well as three underwear styles for these body shapes.

How does the role link with the flavour:
When you remove this mod from the game, you're gonna have missing textures all over the place.


Scum Stuff:
Data corrupted

You win when the mafia controls at least 50% of the vote during the day phase.

Sujimichi died in the night.
But nothing can be determined about their role or alignment.

[jjh927]

Gameplay is getting a lot more streamlined. Maybe I'll even consider doing the main quest? But there's always more side quests to do.

Stone	Votes	Voters
Warrior Stone	0	-
Thief Stone	0	-
Mage Stone	0	-
Not Voting	-	Something_Smart, Eve, Dongfish, alimdia, Wake88, gobbledygook

The morning will end in (expired on 2020-02-24 07:00:00) or with 4 voters for a stone.

[jjh927]

Should have got round to starting the day earlier. I'll honour that vote since it was made well after day should have began.

[jjh927]

I'll also do some buffering for a pagetop

[jjh927]

The morning has ended. The mage stone has been selected.

Stone	Votes	Voters
Warrior Stone	0	-
Thief Stone	1	Dongfish
Mage Stone	2	gobbledygook, Something_Smart
Not Voting	-	Eve, Wake88, Alimdia

Learning some magic will help augment all my other skills, so that's always good.

[jjh927]

The day begins!

You know, on the one hand it's nice that the game is getting more playable as I remove mods, but on the other hand I wanted to be able to run the game with all those mods?

Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
Eve	1	L-2	gobbledygook
Not Voting	---	---	Something_Smart, Eve, Dongfish, alimdia, Wake88

The day will end in (expired on 2020-03-10 00:00:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch- but the mage stone is active so make that 3.

[jjh927]

VOTE: Thief

I don't know what this changes if anything

Oh that's mb

I removed your vote instead of Alimdia's

[jjh927]

Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
Eve	3	Lynch	gobbledygook, Something_Smart, alimdia
Alimdia	1	L-2	Eve
Not Voting	---	---	Dongfish, Wake88

The day has ended because a lynch was achieved.
With 6 alive it took 4 to lynch- but the mage stone is active so make that 3.

[jjh927]

I'm pretty sure this has got to be the mod causing the remaining issues.

. . .

Yeah that's it! The game works totally fine!

Eve has been lynched!
Eve was aligned with the

mafia

! - Note: Eve wouldn't actually flip here due to Mastina's role but as Eve is the last scum the game is ending.

Spoiler: Flip

Hullo Eve! Your role PM is based on Bulletproof Khajit, and you are aligned with the mafia!

Mod: Bulletproof Khajit
Alignment: Mafia
Associated Stone: Thief

Role:
Traitor: The rest of the mafia do not know who you are, but do know that a traitor exists. If you survive being nightkilled by one of them, you will be recruited as a full scum member who can perform the factional kill and has PT access.
Deathproof: In a phase in which the Thief Stone is active, you will be fully deathproof, and immune to both lynches and kills.


General Flavour:
Bulletproof Khajit is a cheat mod, plain and simple, that makes Khajit humorously strong.


How does the role link with the flavour:
Khajit are not trusted by Skyrim's masses. Probably has something to do with them being good at sneaking around. And of course, making them extremely tough is only beneficial if you're playing one.

Scum Stuff:

Data corrupted

You win when the mafia controls at least 50% of the vote during the day phase.

[jjh927]

With that, the game has ended in a

town win!

Now it's time to start putting mods back in until the game breaks again!

[jjh927]

Roles:
Scum:

Spoiler: GIF

Hullo GuyInFreezer! Your role PM is based on CBBE, and you are aligned with the mafia!

Mod: CBBE
Alignment: Mafia
Associated Stone: None

Role:
Compulsive Death Janitor: When you die, the next 2 flips will be janitored, and neither role nor alignment will flip. If you are lynched, your own flip will be janitored in place of one of the 2 flips.

General Flavour:
I shall say no more than an excerpt from the mod's description, which says all anyone needs to know:

CBBE replaces the vanilla female body that all adult female characters (player and NPC) share, with one that is fully customisable through the BodySlide tool and BodySlide's RaceMenu Morphs plugin. By default there are three nude options available that don't require anything but installation, as well as three underwear styles for these body shapes.

How does the role link with the flavour:
When you remove this mod from the game, you're gonna have missing textures all over the place.

Scum Stuff:

Your scumbuddies are Pine and some traitor you don't know about. Your scum PT is here and you can perform a factional nightkill in addition to any other abilities you may have.

Spoiler: Pine

Hullo Pine! Your role PM is based on Improved World Map with Roads, and you are aligned with the mafia!

Mod: Improved World Map with Roads
Alignment: Mafia
Associated Stone: None

Role:
Motion-Predicting Rolecop: Once per night, you may target a player and predict whether or not they will act. If you are correct, you will determine their role.


General Flavour:
Improved World Map with Roads was actually, if I recall correctly, the first Skyrim mod I ever downloaded. Giving up fast travelling generally serves to enhance your gameplay experience- provided you can actually figure out where the hell you're supposed to get around some mountain properly, which is where this mod comes in.

How does the role link with the flavour:
You've got a very good map there. If you can figure out whether someone is going somewhere, you can figure out what they're up to.

Scum Stuff:

Your scumbuddies are GuyInFreezer and some traitor you don't know about. Your scum PT is here and you can perform a factional nightkill in addition to any other abilities you may have.

Spoiler: Eve

Hullo Eve! Your role PM is based on Bulletproof Khajit, and you are aligned with the mafia!

Mod: Bulletproof Khajit
Alignment: Mafia
Associated Stone: Thief

Role:
Traitor: The rest of the mafia do not know who you are, but do know that a traitor exists. If you survive being nightkilled by one of them, you will be recruited as a full scum member who can perform the factional kill and has PT access.
Deathproof: In a phase in which the Thief Stone is active, you will be fully deathproof, and immune to both lynches and kills.


General Flavour:
Bulletproof Khajit is a cheat mod, plain and simple, that makes Khajit humorously strong.


How does the role link with the flavour:
Khajit are not trusted by Skyrim's masses. Probably has something to do with them being good at sneaking around. And of course, making them extremely tough is only beneficial if you're playing one.

Scum Stuff:

Your scumbuddies are GuyInFreezer and Pine, but they don't know who you are.

Town:

Spoiler: pops

Hullo popsofctown! Your role PM is based on Scaling Stopper, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Scaling Stopper
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: None

Role:
Level-Based Rolestopper: Once per night, you may target a player. If their role has a stone associated with it, and its path level is equal to or higher than the current cycle number, their night actions cannot fail and they will be protected from one nightkill.


General Flavour:
Scaling in Skyrim is indeed pretty immersion breaking. It is perfectly believable that some people or things are stronger than others- less so that the general strength of everything there is will increase as the dragonborn levels. There should always be lowly bandits. Stronger bandits should exist, but they shouldn't suddenly become the rule rather than the exception because one guy got really tough.


How does the role link with the flavour:
If your level is strong enough for wherever you happen to be, you shouldn't expect anything to go wrong.

Spoiler: Dongfish

Hullo Dongfish! Your role PM is based on Really Useful Dragons, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Really Useful Dragons
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: None

Role:
Level 5 Innocent Child: Whenever any path level reaches level 5, you will be confirmed as town. Rolecops will determine that you do something at level 5, but not your full role.


General Flavour:
We were so preoccupied with whether or not we could, we didn’t stop to think if we should.

How does the role link with the flavour:
When you're levelled up enough to fight that first dragon near Whiterun, it'll be pretty clear that this mod is working.

Spoiler: gobbledygook

Hullo gobbledygook! Your role PM is based on Apocalypse, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Apocalypse
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: Mage

Role:
Jack of All Trades: You may perform any number of the following actions by PMing the mod. However, you cannot perform an action if it would take the total number of actions you have performed throughout the game to a number above the current Wizard path level.

-Mind Vision: Target another player. If they receive a result during the night, you will also receive that result.
-Soul Cloak: Any players who die in this phase will be added to a new PT with you instead of the dead thread.
-Perilous Path: Target a player. You may target yourself. All other non-killing actions targetting that player will fail.
-Alarm: Target a player. You may target yourself. You will be alerted if another action targets this player, but not told who targeted or with what.
-Slay Living: (Day phase only.). Target a player who is 1 vote away from being lynched. They immediately are treated as requiring 1 less vote to be lynched.
-Summoning Rune: Target a player. All players who target that player with non-killing actions this phase will be added to a PT.

General Flavour:
Apocalypse is a magic mod that adds a ton of cool spells. Personally I think it's very nicely balanced while also adding a plethora of tools for a mage to use that otherwise wouldn't exist. Some of the spells are actually more cool than they are useful.

How does the role link with the flavour:
I think this is self-explanatory.

Spoiler: Aeronaut

Hullo Aeronaut! Your role PM is based on Immersive College of Winterhold, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Immersive College of Winterhold
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: Mage

Role:
Neighbour: You are in a hood with some other guild related mods, linked here.
Roleblocker-Jailkeeper: Once per night, you may target a player to cause any actions they perform that night to fail. If the Wizard path is level 5 or more, they will also be protected from any killing actions.
Leveller: During the night, if the Mage Stone is active, the level of the Wizard path will increase by 1.


General Flavour:
Immersive College of Winterhold is a neat little mod that makes the college more of a college. NPCs actually hang out and practice magic, and there's lots of magical stuff you can look at and learn about to gain experience. It also lets you yield the archmage position at the end of the questline to Tolfdir who is, in almost all cases, far more qualified than the dragonborn to be archmage. Although the mod does also make the room you get as a perk of being the archmage far more enticing. . .


How does the role link with the flavour:
It's all about guilds and growing your magical power.

Spoiler: alimdia

Hullo alimdia! Your role PM is based on Localised Thieves Guild Jobs, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Localised Thieves Guild Jobs
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: Thief

Role:
Neighbour: You are in a hood with some other guild related mods, linked here.
Tracker-Watcher: Once per night, you may target a player to learn the names of all players they target in that night. If the Stealth Archer path is level 5 or more, you may instead target a player to learn the names of all players who target them.
Leveller: During the night, if the Thief Stone is active, the level of the Stealth Archer path will increase by 1.

General Flavour:
I feel like this mod is a must-have for any playthrough in which you decide to do the Thieves Guild questline. Being able to choose the location in which you get a radiant quest makes the end bit where you have to complete a load of radiant quests in a load of different locations so much less dumb and time-consuming. It also adds some stuff for taking on challenges and completing jobs within a certain amount of time for extra pay, although that can be a bit overpowered in terms of making money.

How does the role link with the flavour:
It's all about guilds and honing your abilities as a thief.

Spoiler: Wake88

Hullo Wake88! Your role PM is based on ESF Companions, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: ESF Companions
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: Warrior

Role:
Neighbour: You are in a hood with some other guild related mods, linked here.
Bodyguard-Elite Bodyguard: Once per night, you may target a player. If they would be killed, you will be killed instead. If the Board and Sword path is level 5 or more, any attackers will also die.
Leveller: During the night, if the Warrior Stone is active, the level of the Board and Sword path will increase by 1.

General Flavour:
ESF Companions is actually one of my favourite mods because it does some things with the companions that makes them actually fill a crucial role for any warrior playthrough- it adds the ability to spar with the NPCs, allowing you to train your combat skills without any risk. Which makes sense. It's an immersive way of training. And that alone is great, but it also adds some things that were removed from the main release of Skyrim for whatever reason, like some radiant quests and Aela accompanying you on your trial if you did more quests for her.


How does the role link with the flavour:
It's all about guilds and training as a warrior.

Spoiler: TiphaineDeath

Hullo TiphaineDeath! Your role PM is based on Immersive Weapons, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Immersive Weapons
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: Warrior

Role: Weaponsmith (Path Cop): Once per night, you may target a player to learn the stone associated with their role PM, if any. If the Warrior Stone is active, you may instead target two players.


General Flavour:
I've always seen Immersive Weapons as a core mod that should always have its place in a load order. The main reason for this is the diversity it brings; no more is it 3 types of one-handed weapon and 3 types of two-handed weapon. Well, actually it still is, but what Immersive Weapons treats as an axe for game reasons is not necessarily an axe.

How does the role link with the flavour:
You can determine what kind of build someone is going for by the weapons they carry.

Spoiler: Sujimichi

Hullo Sujimichi! Your role PM is based on Sneak Tools, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Sneak Tools
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: Thief

Role:
Vigilante: Once per night, if the Thief Stone is active, you may target a player and kill them.

General Flavour:
Sneak Tools adds things that augment the stealth experience. That ranges from being able to slit throats rather than sneaking up behind someone and doing that three strike power attack with dual daggers to identity concealing masks. Particularly interesting is that the mod allows for extinguishing fires, removing light and making it easier to sneak around.

How does the role link with the flavour:
If you sneak up on somebody and slit their throat, they die.

Spoiler: Zenith

Hullo Zenith! Your role PM is based on Here There Be Monsters- The Call of Cthulhu, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Here There Be Monsters- The Call of Cthulhu
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: Mage

Role:
Oracle- Once per night, you may ask the mod one of the following questions, filling the blanks with whatever word you like. Player names count as single words. You may only ask each question once.

-Is ____ aligned with ____?
-How many living players have role PMs associated with the ____ stone?
-Is there a ____ in the game?
-How many ____-aligned players are still alive?
-What is ____'s flavour?

If you ask a question, and the mage stone is not active, you will also develop the highest modifier in the following list that you do not already have:
-Macho- If your death would be prevented by another role that targets you, you will still die.
-Confused- You may not fill in blanks with words containing the letter “E”.
-Eccentric- You must receive permission from another player to change your vote, or it will not count. Your first vote each day does not need permission.
-Suicidal- At the end of the day phase, you will die.

General Flavour:
I'm aware you specified “Lovecraftian Horror Mod” but this is the only one I'm aware of. This particular mod takes those Lovecraftian influences from the Dragonborn DLC into a whole different dimension. Several, even.

How does the role link with the flavour:
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

Spoiler: Blatant Scum

Hullo Blatant Scum! Your role PM is based on Violens, and you are aligned with the town!

Mod: Violens
Alignment: Town
Associated Stone: Warrior

Role:
Killmove Settings: Once per night, if the warrior stone is active, you may change one of the following game settings from false to true or vice versa:
-Killing actions cannot be roleblocked- False
-Kill-immune roles (eg bulletproof) are enabled- True
-The factional nightkill has unique kill flavour- False
-Players associated with the Warrior stone can place hammer votes- True
-Players associated with the Thief stone can place hammer votes- True
-Players associated with the Mage stone can place hammer votes- True

Any settings changed will be publicly announced.

General Flavour:
I actually mostly use Violens so that NPCs can't use killmoves on me because I think killmoves are bullshit and always feel cheated by the inability to dodge just because you're low health. But aside from being able to make the player immune to killmoves, Violens has a whole menu full of settings regarding killmove animations and their triggers.

How does the role link with the flavour:
This is self-explanatory.

[jjh927]

Night actions:

Spoiler: N1

Mastina kills popsofctown
Eve is currently deathproof
Pine didn't submit an action

pops targets Eve. Eve is successfully rolestopped
Dongfish does nothing
gobbledygook does nothing
Aeronaut roleblocks alimdia
alimdia attempts to track Aeronaut but is roleblocked and gets no result
Wake bodyguards Aeronaut
TiphaineDeath is already dead
Sujimichi kills Pine
Zenith asks "What is everyone's flavour?"
Blatant Scum does nothing

Spoiler: N2

Mastina kills xtoxm
Eve is not currently deathproof
Pine is dead

pops is dead
Dongfish does nothing
gobbledygook does nothing
xtoxm roleblocks gobbledygook
alimdia tracks xtoxm to gobbledygook
Wake bodyguards Dongfish
TiphaineDeath is dead
Sujimichi does nothing
Zenith asks "Is gobbledygook aligned with dongfish?"
Blatant Scum is dead

Spoiler: N3

Mastina kills Sujimichi
Eve is currently deathproof
Pine is dead

pops is dead
Dongfish does nothing
gobbledygook does nothing
xtoxm is dead
alimdia tracks Mastina to Sujimichi
Wake bodyguards Dongfish
TiphaineDeath is dead
Sujimichi kills Mastina
Something_Smart asks "How many 3P-aligned players are still alive?". Answer is 0
Blatant Scum is dead

[jjh927]

Scum PT - took me ages to realise I hadn't released these but it's done now
Guilds PT
Dead PT

[jjh927]

Setup was more townsided than I intended. I think I resisted the urge to gate most of the roles more by stone, and that was a mistake because I should have done exactly that.

[jjh927]

Hmm

[jjh927]

I'm currently torn between designing and running an abnormal game like the kind of thing I ran a bunch of in the marathon weekend except not hastily thrown together
and running a mini theme I have already designed based around the prisoner's dilemma

[jjh927]

My OP on the marathon games was


I have a word document with some totally new roles on it. I'm gonna make some setups with various numbers of people using some amount of randomly selected roles from that document, some actually selected roles from that document to make a setup that works, and no more than 2 normal roles/modifiers*. Also no more than 2 roles that aren't normal but that I've seen people use before.
*This obviously does not include VTs.

[jjh927]

In practice I didn't actually use any non-original roles over the 5 games besides obviously VTs

[jjh927]

There's a temptation to get a game reviewed by normal game review group and try to bring the process as close to a normal review but without using any normal roles at all.
I think I'd have to publish my role list for the game to work though

[jjh927]

Spoiler: Game mechanics for the prisoner's dilemma game

Game Mechanics:

After a lynch has been achieved, or deadline has passed with no lynch, there will be a 24 hour twilight period. In this period, the mafia will pair off members of the playerlist. Any unassigned players will be randomised. If there is an odd number of players, one player will be left out. That player may not be left out again for the rest of the game, unless somehow all living players have been left out.

At the start of the night, all paired players will be informed of who they were paired with. Players will be given the choice to betray their partner, or cooperate with them.
If you betray your partner and they cooperate, your role PM will be activated for that night.
If you both betray each other, then nothing will happen.
If you both cooperate, then you will form a PT together.

If you choose to betray and have a night action that targets, please state your target alongside your intention to betray.

A player who is left out can make no such decision, and thus is effectively blocked from activating their role for the night.



Scum may always submit a nightkill regardless of this mechanic.

[jjh927]

You get a PT with someone who just effectively agreed to cooperate with you

[jjh927]

That's exactly the deal with prisoner's dilemma though?

If both people act out of self interest, it's the worst scenario
If neither do then it's very slightly better, but not much
and if one does then it's great for them and shit for the other.