Newbie 1976 - Game Over

[Kanna]

VOTE: GBJ did you expect this or no?

[Kanna]

But really, nice to see you again Map, GBJ, and hi to everyone else!

[Kanna]

Were you really not serious? It’s not just that btw, you started the day off making excuses. I usually take that as a bad omen.

Yeah, don't agree with that push but don't like this post in particular. The "I actually had other reasons for scumreading you," feels off. VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

[Kanna]

Were you really not serious? It’s not just that btw, you started the day off making excuses. I usually take that as a bad omen.

Yeah, don't agree with that push but don't like this post in particular. The "I actually had other reasons for scumreading you," feels off. VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

In what way?

It feels a bit tacked on/unnatural imo. Sorta like your earlier reason for SRing Map fell off and you had to come up with another reason to justify SRing Map.

[Kanna]

But agree on Naerys + Map Wolf's #53 had some good points.

[Kanna]

Daitsi, you’ve never seen my townplay before. So how can you be so sure already?

for all we know you might be scum partner of MapWolf and trying to stage something scummy

Perhaps they are trying distancing.

This actually reminds me of something Map said in that other game. Do you remember, Map?

[Kanna]

UNVOTE:

Actually I think Norway’s frustration is kind of townie

[Kanna]

Because i’m town. :>
Lel.
Anyway i know this is a newbie game so i’m not too bothered about being scumread for what i think are bad reasons. This is a game for learning after all. My expectations aren’t high.
I just wanna build up some reads and hope i’m right.

This is kind of...unpleasant but ok. Why are the reasons for scumreading you bad but your reason for scumreading Map good?

[Kanna]

I’ve been told i can be a very intimidating player. But i’ll stay toned down around this block don’t you worry friend. We don’t want this obvtown completely ruining the game for scum now do we?

Eh, one part of me really wants to start arguing here that telling me "not to worry" and saying "you don't wanna ruin the game for scum" kinda sorta maybe implies that you think I am scum

but I don't think that argument is gonna be productive at all

hmmmm
UNVOTE:

Datisi, why did you unvote Norway?

[Kanna]

ive never seen map wolf start a wagon as town, only jump on other wagons
seems that's whats happening here too
this means i tr map wolf

Why would you TR map just over how he hopped on a wagon?

[Kanna]

^ this kind of tmi tring is kinda what you did last game as scum, remember? Are you scum again, GBJ?

[Kanna]

Whoops sorry ninja’d

[Kanna]

^I kinda don't even know what that means.

[Kanna]

im saying scum would speculate in their pt rather than in the main thread

Won't they be fishing for PRs though? There's really no argument that looking for PRs is somehow townie. It's anti town at best and scummy at worst.

[Kanna]

I am not voting them just yet because I can see the former two being just as likely tbh

GBJ is definitely not epic newb so you can rule that one out. You can check his completed games or you can just believe me he knows how to play the game at least.

He’s looking anti town atm but I’m still trying to decide if that’s scum indicative.

[Kanna]

Non lmh replaces Dev321. Welcome!

Non are you following me?

[Kanna]

I'm feeling a bit worse about Naery's due to the unnecessarily hostile 174 post. Why would she react that way to a prod vote?

(I was gonna say that) Agreed. VOTE: Naerys

[Kanna]

VOTE: Naerys
Need more posts from this slot.

So you basically want me to post for a sake of post and no matter it will be basically useless? Give me a break, i am not in mood for this.

Also this kind of suggests you were lurking.

[Kanna]

Don’t like Naerys’ reactions much :/

@Naerys; do you think the votes on you are unfair? + why or why not?

[Kanna]

Woah there buddy, now don't start wagon hopping now that we know your meta. I'm already leaning towards GBJ and I think Dev's slot is also a scumlean for me.

"Woah there buddy"? bro that seems sus
(as in appeal to authority)

What if I think “bro” is “sus (as in appeal to authority)”

(???????what)

[Kanna]

yah, but not yet, reading up
naerys is weird, gbj is weird

GBJ is always weird though. I kind of think that was what lost us 1965.

Really though? I skimmed through 1965 before and I didn’t think he was weird. Can you elaborate?

[Kanna]

What happened to Naerys being very Town or whatever?

I still think she's town, based on the fact that she's gotten so many votes already. Seem's like a counterwagon to GBJ.

But i don't like her play.

Kinda don’t follow here; why is she town based on how she got a lot of votes (what makes it different to GBJ?)

[Kanna]

Sorry all; was spending time with family. Hope you all had a good New Years + promise to catch up properly and share thoughts tomorrow!

[Kanna]

eh.

mood

are you playing or?

[Kanna]

UNVOTE:

[Kanna]

GBJ seems the scummiest but this seems too easy so I’m not sure

[Kanna]

I’m also slightly paranoid of Norway or Datisi being scum

[Kanna]

yah, but not yet, reading up
naerys is weird, gbj is weird

GBJ is always weird though. I kind of think that was what lost us 1965.

Really though? I skimmed through 1965 before and I didn’t think he was weird. Can you elaborate?

His posts can come off as low-effort especially with the start of sentences being lowercase (yeah I know). Typically has rather short and direct posts, which some might see as scummy.

Unless I’m very wrong, I don’t think anyone is SRing him because of his posting style - it’s much more the contents

Do you think GBJ is scummy, Map?

[Kanna]

^father?

[Kanna]

Damn it Norway

[Kanna]

Don't understand Non's thought process but this was kinda how he was in our last game tbf.

[Kanna]

291 is such a trainwreck of a post.
Also, what is so suspicious about GBJ? Seems like just another game from him.
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I think we should wait for a potential replacement and then lynch JacksonVirgo unless there comes more content form the slot.

GBJ doesn't give content either + from last game we know GBJ lurks as scum. I feel like you're kinda biased towards GBJ

[Kanna]

Agree with waiting for replacement but I'm starting to think it's just VOTE: GBJ

[Kanna]

UNVOTE: wait was that L1

[Kanna]

Hmmmm

Kanna, why do you vote if you agree to wait for a replacement
Esp if you know the person has some votes on them first

This question is kinda weird; what does me saying I want to wait for a replacement have to do with me voting GBJ?

[Kanna]

Whewe is evewyone?

Salad, why were you pushing for a claim in 281?

Whenever there's L-1 I want to get a claim before a loljammer

Why? Also you weren't on that wagon so you couldn't even unvote to save them if they were a PR

[Kanna]

Hey Phoenix! Liking your catch-up too

[Kanna]

Ngl, my opinion hasn't changed much over the last few pages, I just want to lynch GBJ. From meta, I know he 1) lurks as scum, 2) he can be protown as town, 3) he got caught as scum last time for trying to be townie so it makes sense why he could be trying something different this time

[Kanna]

Have also seen a bit of resistance against the slot; namely Map, Non, so I don't think it's as "easy" as I thought

[Kanna]

Actually, can I ask why people individually find GBJ scummy?

[Kanna]

Actually, can I ask why people individually find GBJ scummy?

Providing no reasoning for basically anything he's said so far:

- the opening vote on Norway
- saying Norway is PR/scum
- Readslist #1
- the vote on Naerys
- Readslist #2

I like Naerys' last post. Keep them coming. Currently scumreading Salad, GBJ and Non. Guys, that's 3 people on D1, doesn't anyone want to address my concerns so that I can narrow it down :/

Wolf's pressure vote on Jackson earlier I still don't like, but at least he has contributed with his other posts; Non's vote to put Jackson at L-1, in combination with the lack of reasoning behind his posts, I particularly don't like.

Do you find him just not providing reasoning scummy and not the actual actions?

[Kanna]

Oh btw, I sorta disagree it’s Non; I suggest looking at their other games cause this is standard for Non (i.e being cryptic, no activity...etc). If you guys are SRing because of that, I think you should reconsider.

If GBJ is scum I think Map is partner

[Kanna]

Actually, can I ask why people individually find GBJ scummy?

Providing no reasoning for basically anything he's said so far:

- the opening vote on Norway
- saying Norway is PR/scum
- Readslist #1
- the vote on Naerys
- Readslist #2

I like Naerys' last post. Keep them coming. Currently scumreading Salad, GBJ and Non. Guys, that's 3 people on D1, doesn't anyone want to address my concerns so that I can narrow it down :/

Wolf's pressure vote on Jackson earlier I still don't like, but at least he has contributed with his other posts; Non's vote to put Jackson at L-1, in combination with the lack of reasoning behind his posts, I particularly don't like.

Do you find him just not providing reasoning scummy and not the actual actions?

All of the above is justified if there's a reason for it. So the former.

I sort of disagree because I think scum could easily give reasons for their actions as appeasement. I think we should looking at actions themselves and if they have scum motivation

[Kanna]

Also about Map;
>defended GBJ + from previous game, I have reason to believe he’s not a busser
> early on, I felt he was more aggressive but his tone has changed
> generally been coasting

[Kanna]

Readlist goes;

<Norway>
<Phoenix, Non, Datisi>
<Salad, Naerys>
<GBJ, Map Wolf>

Mostly with emphasis on Norway; I think he’s quite obvtown. Will explain any placements if anyone asks.

[Kanna]

Actually, can I ask why people individually find GBJ scummy?

Providing no reasoning for basically anything he's said so far:

- the opening vote on Norway
- saying Norway is PR/scum
- Readslist #1
- the vote on Naerys
- Readslist #2

I like Naerys' last post. Keep them coming. Currently scumreading Salad, GBJ and Non. Guys, that's 3 people on D1, doesn't anyone want to address my concerns so that I can narrow it down :/

Wolf's pressure vote on Jackson earlier I still don't like, but at least he has contributed with his other posts; Non's vote to put Jackson at L-1, in combination with the lack of reasoning behind his posts, I particularly don't like.

Do you find him just not providing reasoning scummy and not the actual actions?

All of the above is justified if there's a reason for it. So the former.

I sort of disagree because I think scum could easily give reasons for their actions as appeasement. I think we should looking at actions themselves and if they have scum motivation

So you are okay with GBJ's actions so far?

No? I just disagree with you saying “GBJ is just scummy because he doesn’t give reasons.” I think GBJ’s actions/motivation is scummy

[Kanna]

Also about Map;
>defended GBJ + from previous game, I have reason to believe he’s not a busser
> early on, I felt he was more aggressive but his tone has changed
> generally been coasting

Fair enough. Define "busser", though, I'm not familiar with that term.

Norway is obvtown, Datisi is doing townie things plus has more than double posts than me.
You are doing great examinations, (especially of me)
GBJ is the Lynch today. Non I already explained.
Rest is null cause I'm too lazy to read them since it was supposed to be a shotgun read list.

Fair as well.

Readlist goes;

<Norway>
<Phoenix, Non, Datisi>
<Salad, Naerys>
<GBJ, Map Wolf>

Mostly with emphasis on Norway; I think he’s quite obvtown. Will explain any placements if anyone asks.

Could you explain further about Non? Also, are Salad and Naerys scumreads or?

(omg I got asked a theory question) Bussing is when scum partners distance from each other by shading/SRing/voting so it looks better when one of them flip scum. It’s kind of dangerous though because you’re pushing against your wincon

And I did sort of explain before about Non but his play here is very similar to a lot of his games + the last game I
played with him. I don’t see any differences that make me really think he’s scum. Also they’re low TRs. I mostly SR GBJ/Map

[Kanna]

^*in last game I played with Non, he was town

[Kanna]

No, Map hasn’t voted GBJ apart from RVS where it was clear it wasn’t serious. Why do you think it’s Non?

[Kanna]

ahhh GG

[Kanna]

I had like...a moment of clarity it was Phoenix but everyone seemed so sure and their arguments were more solid than mine so I wasn't really sure

[Kanna]

no Datisi, you did well c: curse you scumz for killing me

[Kanna]

like literally I now know why I died

[Kanna]

ughhh just shouldve shut up at the end of D2 omg

[Kanna]

Kanna was adorably attached to you in dead thread

[Kanna]

Wasn't it cause I SRd map and poked Phoenix?

[Kanna]

ughhh just shouldve shut up at the end of D2 omg

I mean D1 i wasn't even there for d2

[Kanna]

pedit: awwwww
Kanna you have no idea how devastated I was
like
no
idea

[Kanna]

Also mod told us in dead thread scum changed NK to me 1 hr before deadline and if I'm not wrong, it was norway so our plan to nk bait norway almost worked SMHSMHSMHSMSH

[Kanna]

ok mena I'll listen to you

[Kanna]

I'm getting front row tickets to watch Norway/Hectic and Mena 1000%

[Kanna]

I'm getting front row tickets to watch Norway/Hectic and Mena 1000%

I'm also gonna be there so

EVEN BETTER

[Kanna]

I just didn't believe GBJ would gamethrow but he actually did

I’m sorry GBJ hope there’s no hard feelings, I feel bad.

[Kanna]

Lmao at my norway/Naerys hard tunnel sigh