Micro 911: Technically Normal

[Amrun]

VOTE: DDL

For old time’s sake

[Amrun]

So I uh

Forgot to bookmark this game. And also fell asleep watching The Witcher.

Catching up.

[Amrun]

VOTE: slimer

Absolutely could not stand the way he panicked at chamber “tunneling” him when chamber hadn’t even voted him. Scumflail if I’ve ever seen it.


I think gobble’s take on bug spray scum is interesting and only one of this pair (if any) is scum. I like a bug spray/slime team right in this minute.

Wimpy’s deliberate obtuseness seems genuine. Like, it comes off poorly, but I think scum would try not to come off so poorly, if that makes any sense.

Also completely missed the fact that sally was IC until it was pointed out here. Oof.

P-edit: buuuut I hate that wimpy post soooo

[Amrun]

Wimpy’s deliberate obtuseness seems genuine.

I’m not being deliberately obtuse

The burden is on town to scumhunt, not scum to convince town they’re scum. Your argument makes no sense whatsoever to me but I kinda believe you believe it.

[Amrun]

Honestly, if there is mafia in hood, its chamber.

Scum wouldnt attract attention to their hood like wimpy has

Why wouldn’t scum do this?

[Amrun]

Idk, I feel like I’d do that as scum.

[Amrun]

Do you think theres mafia in the hood?

I think it’s the same chances as random.

[Amrun]

I think people using neighborhoods is generally more useful than the way Wimpy and Chamber have decided to use their neighborhood.

Can you explain this post?

[Amrun]

Also why the fuck is my slime support going? Stahp

[Amrun]

Ok, I agree it’s bad faith not to post and try to sort in the neighborhood. Still not sure I scumread Wimpy for it.

I just want slimey to swing and I care little about the rest.

[Amrun]

Ok, I agree it’s bad faith not to post and try to sort in the neighborhood. Still not sure I scumread Wimpy for it.

I just want slimey to swing and I care little about the rest.

1. I didn't realize we had day talk
2. slimey is a bad wagon. it probably won't happen.

Why is slimey a bad wagon?

[Amrun]

Why

[Amrun]

I read it differently than you. I think to accuse someone of “tunneling” when they haven’t even voted you and it’s page 2 is excessive and indicative of scumflail.

[Amrun]

Wimpy is Robbnva obvs.

Whoever they are is Robbnva’s spirit animal, though.

[Amrun]

Bug spray, do you have a game where someone misrepresented you when you were town? Scum?

[Amrun]

Where did slimer disappear?

To the scum PT

[Amrun]

salamence you've been scumreading me wrong every game we played. maybe adjust your play rather than repeat the same mistake you made?

Well youre playing this game differently than the last two so...

Other than gobbles, whos scum?

What is different?

[Amrun]

Ketchup responses. Thank you guys for not being a newbie game and having every other post be a wall of text

I'm addressing a few things I've seen up to page 9. I'll come back around to do the next few pages in a sec

Spoiler:

Salamence20

is mod confirmed to be

Town.

Game begins!

Votecount 1.00

Not Voting: Salamence20, Amrun, gobbledygook, Looker, chamber, Wimpy, bugspray, theslimer3, DrDolittle

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-16 06:42:00)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[/area]

I'm also in the camp of not knowing that there was an IC in this game. Intersting, thanks for pointing that out Chamber

And I get the feeling that there might be masons

I think at least one of the neighbors is not town aligned, probably both.

I'm going to tinfoil predict that they are both sk

As in I'm not in a neighborhood jic that's some named or (I'm not claiming hermit)

Where are these claims of masons coming from? I haven't seen your logic at all, and there's absolutely nothing in the game's known knowledge that even remotely suggests this.

This is going to be horrible. Salamence20 voting block.

@theslimer3:

How many mislynches do you think Salamence20 will be a part of?

Wait why address me directly? And he seems to have his head on his shoulders alright I guess.

You’re embarrassing yourself here.

My first post was a greeting
2nd post addressed to bug spray that made a weird post
3rd was another address, expanding my thoughts/ teasing them
4th addressing my wagon, which was there because I didn’t participate in rqs.

Why are you tunneling me so hard for no reason?

I'm not tunneling you. I'm refuting your denials of the point I've made. You could still be town and have just done one suspect pattern of behaviour. That doesn't mean the behaviour isn't suspect. My vote has never even been on you.

You're pushing bad information that I was contributing nothing to the game in

3

posts. 1 of which was my greeting, and the other two were addressing someone. No matter how you spin it, your reasoning for thinking I'm suspect was a misguided one. I'll admit, I may have jumped the gun a bit by saying you were "tunneling" me though.

BS do you have role info masons exist or was that just set up spec. I found the way you backtracked from that to be in genuine

I don't and I really want to know why you think so

VOTE: slimer

Absolutely could not stand the way he panicked at chamber “tunneling” him when chamber hadn’t even voted him. Scumflail if I’ve ever seen it.


I think gobble’s take on bug spray scum is interesting and only one of this pair (if any) is scum. I like a bug spray/slime team right in this minute.

Wimpy’s deliberate obtuseness seems genuine. Like, it comes off poorly, but I think scum would try not to come off so poorly, if that makes any sense.

Also completely missed the fact that sally was IC until it was pointed out here. Oof.

P-edit: buuuut I hate that wimpy post soooo

Picking out a word I say and assigning an emotion to it? How on earth did you get me paniking out of me refuting his logic of me being scum just because my first 3 posts didn't pinpoint the scum?

And what particular do you like about me and bug spray as a pair? Is that a claim made with logic, or in good faith that it would be true?

VOTE: Slimer

Opportunistic

Slimer’s reactions were townie. Chamber’s push was scummy. The lack of vote makes it worse. He fabricated something to appear useful

I wouldn't say it was a scummy push, but I can say it kinda does seem like he just wants to look like he's doing something there

Most words have emotion to them. Your choice of the word “tunnel,” which you admit was “jumping the gun” was very telling.

I didn’t say bug/slimer team because you two were tied, you were just my two top picks for scum. You also happen to not have a reason I don’t think you could be a team.

[Amrun]

Btw. Chamber has made 43 posts and has yet to “engage with the scum finding of the game”

So if making 3 is scummy. 43 has to be like really really scummy

I disagree with this assessment. Chamber had the most early game scum hunting of anyone. Has only fallen off recently but not worth noting IMO.

[Amrun]

Look, disregard all of that if you want.

The main point is that DDL is posting like hes honestly trying. I dont know DDL to be a person who actually tries. Hes tunneling gobble and doesnt have another read. Hes scum this time, his posting is more bold and upfront, compared to the lax nature im used to. he would be more relaxed if he was town.

If you dont want to follow, then just ignore each other and go after someone else. The hood business is going to drag the game and Im not lynching Chamber or you D1.

My bad, you answered later. I think this is a terrible reason to SR DDL and I don’t think it’s an accurate meta read at all.

DDL still might have rolled scum but not for this reason.
Gobble’s case is much better. I would vote DDL today but I think slimer has a much higher chance of flipping scum.

[Amrun]

VOTE: ddl
making a post in my personal pt on why i trust salamance that i'll probably post early on in d2

Salamence20 is an IC. Gross post.

[Amrun]

The main point is that DDL is posting like hes honestly trying.

Uh. Chamber is guilty of this.

You continue to fail at reading. He's contrasting this against how he thinks DDL normally plays.

This is accurate. Wimpy continues to misrep multiple players and I’m not liking it.

[Amrun]

Ive played one game with chamber before. The reason I brought it up was because I thought he got into a pissing match with another player, but I was incorrect.

The posting seems to be similar enough; he was town btw (granted that its 9 years old and meta is terrible) albeit a little more agressive here fighting with wimpy.

Anyone got info on chamberscum?

I think chamberscum is more slippery and passive than he’s been here but that’s also old.

[Amrun]

Wimpy continues to misrep multiple players and I’m not liking it.

I don’t believe I have misrepped anyone.

Well, you just tried to say basic opinions and things that people disagree with you are “lies” among a handful of other things that are quite objectively misrepresentation, whatever you believe. Jury’s still out for me whether or not the misrep is intentional.

[Amrun]

What’s DDL at? Wanna vote.

DDL/slimer is obv the team. Wanna vote there, order doesn’t matter.

[Amrun]

Amrun give me reason my metaread on DDL is wrong plz

Oh sorry.

I just think the behavior is NAI. I think he is probably scum here but I’ve seen him do that as town as well, that’s all. It’s kinda irrelevant b/c I don’t think it makes him town.

[Amrun]

So you don’t agree with my opinions. It was also 2 am
And I was beyond tired.

One this is fact though. Since chamber didn’t vote slimer, that doesn’t appear to be genuine scum hunting which means he has gone this far, with so many posts, and hasn’t scum hunted.

He is also guilty of the very thing he accused slimer of.

He can swear up and down after the fact his rvs vote was serious, but he didn’t say so at the time and it was rvs so it clearly wasn’t.

I do disagree with you, and I don’t think he’s guilty at all of what he accused slimer of. The thing is, I’m not saying you’re lying just because I disagree with you.

[Amrun]

And of course it was kicking tires, what else is a first post scum read. I would rarely expect to carry such things past the first several pages, them being weak is different from them being arbitrary)

See this to me is you admitting your read wasn’t serious. Thanks for around the bout way admitting I was right.

No. Bad. Stop it. I want to hit you on the nose with a newspaper.

Please focus on the actual game. Thanks.


Im declaring intent on DDL.

[Amrun]

Please focus on the actual game. Thanks.

I am actually. I’m trying to lynch scum while everyone else is trying to lynch a lurker.

We all know what your scumread is. Misrepping and arguing semantics with him for 10,000 pages is just going to make me want to PL you since I see you as the instigator, even though I feel better about flipping other slots in the game. Don’t make me compromise my own gameplay because you won’t shut the hell up and comment on anything else going on in the game.

[Amrun]

Me saying its weak but not arbitrary/random is the same as it being random? News to me.

I never said your vote was random. I said it wasn’t serious. You saying it was weak/arbitrary and that you would eventually move on means it wasn’t serious

Oh for crying out loud.

R

andom

V

oting

S

tage

random

If you believe his vote is RVS, which you so clearly profess to, you believe it is random.

STOP

[Amrun]

Then policy lynch me. I got run out of two games because of bullying. I’m not going to stand down anymore.

But here’s the thing.

You’re the bully.

[Amrun]

Don’t make me compromise my own gameplay because you won’t shut the hell up and comment on anything else going on in the game

What am I supposed to comment on exactly?

It’s me vs chamber, a bunch of people vs a lurker.

Someone with content is at L-1 with intent and you categorically refuse to comment on it. You just want to make noise about a slot that is not likely to be lynched today.

Here’s a though: let’s say chamber is scum. He still has a partner.

JFC

[Amrun]

Oh for crying out loud.

Random Voting Stage

2010 called. It says that actual definition died years ago. People vote in rvs for non random reasons now. It’s been that way since even before I left the first time.

chamber’s join date is 2005 and he very clearly was using the word random to refer to an RVS stage vote. No, RVS isn’t throw it at a dartboard random, but it’s so very obvious what he was referring to.

You’re choosing to clog the game up with semantics and contention rather than advance it.

[Amrun]

Then policy lynch me. I got run out of two games because of bullying. I’m not going to stand down anymore.

But here’s the thing.

You’re the bully.

How so? I haven’t bullied anyone. Chamber has. Bug spray has. You just did.

Me? Bully you?

Oh you poor sweet summer child.

Your victim mentality isn’t going to be tackled by me. I have children of my own already.


VOTE: Wimpy


Point blank refusal to advance the gamestate could be from stubborn town, but could very easily come from obfuscating scum. I care less and less about which this is.

[Amrun]

DDL > Looker > Amrun/Slimer if DDL is red.

DDL > Amrun > Slimer if DDL is green

In lylo where no scum are dead, Bugspray > Chamber > Looker.

3p Lylo Chamber > Looker > Wimpy

Gobbles is most likely town, bug is dumb, wimpy is probtown, everyone else can die.

Huh, why looker for a DDL buddy over slimer? I don’t get it - please enlighten me. Everything else I basically understand I think, except lynching me if DDL flips green but whatever.

rather than advance it.

I can’t advance the game until my scum read is dead.

That is literally not how this game works. It is a team game.

[Amrun]

Wimpy is TSE btw.

No way. Is this real?

I didn’t think TSE could type with proper grammar, truth be told.

[Amrun]

That is literally not how this game works. It is a team game.

When the “team” wants to lynch a lurker for no reason at all. I can’t I’m good faith vote with them. I don’t condone actually policy lynching a lurker.

No one is policy lynching DDL for lurking. We think he is scum.

[Amrun]

Wimpy, is DDL town?

[Amrun]

Me? Bully you?

Threatening to policy lynching me is bullying. It’s a threat made towards me to play how you want or else. You’re a bully

That is not bullying, nor is it telling you how to play. It’s telling you that I’m not going to read this antagonistic bullshit all game. Scumread chamber all you want. Shouting it into the wind isn’t going to help you, if you’re town. It’s only clogging up the thread and distracting everyone, which is explicitly anti-town.

P-edit: There have been several reasons stated why he is (or could be) scum, the most notable being his lack of scumread or reads outside of a weak gobble push. Salamence20 believes DDL is scum by meta, though I personally disagree with that aspect. You clearly aren’t reading anything you’re not the center of, which is scum sided way of playing.

[Amrun]

Salamence20, can you answer my previous question to you?

[Amrun]

Amrun, I cant go into detail other than “poe.”

My townreading radar is on point this game. As long as I am right with the hood being t-t town has a very good chance at winning this.

Right now the only roadmaps in which I lose is the scumteam is Chamber/Wimpy (which is near mod confirmed it cant be), or Bugspray/Wimpy + X (Im currently willing to let Bugspray/Wimpy win as mafia because I dont think THEY (Spray) are smart enough to be mafia, and Wimpy I still feel is town because who the fuck does this as scum and carries on about it as he/she/it/they/heheue does).

By interaction I feel strongly that if DDL is scum, it is slimer. And significantly less likely that it’s Looker. I’d feel more scummy about Looker on a DDL townflip in fact.

I actually am half flipping DDL in hopes he flips red so I can get support for a slimer lynch. Just being honest.

[Amrun]

I haven’t done anything bam worthy actually. Chamber has but he used to be a mod or something so I’m sure he won’t either.

Yeah but youre instigating it so you can go first.

Me responding to posts directed about or towards me isn’t instigating.

People telling me to fuck off, tossing insults, threatening to policy lynch Me, or telling me to shut up are the ones instigating. I’m playing the game as it’s intended.

The game as intended is a team game where town works in coordination, which you are refusing to do. So no you aren’t.

[Amrun]

I actually am half flipping DDL in hopes he flips red so I can get support for a slimer lynch. Just being honest.

You just said “we” think he is scum. This doesn’t sound like you are convinced he is.

Thinking somebody is scum isn’t the same as hoping.

More semantics. I think he has a higher than random chance of flipping red which is pretty good for a day 1 lynch. I am compromising to further the game and achieve my goals, which is something you should learn.

[Amrun]

I am the one who declared intent and I absolutely do NOT support a hammer until he returns and has a chance for whatever.

No one implied otherwise tbh.

[Amrun]

which you are refusing to do. So no you aren’t.

I’m not refusing to work as a team though. I just don’t agree with a ddl lynch. No convincing argument has been made. Disagreement isn’t refusal

You don’t have to lynch DDL to work as a team. Already this conversation is 100x more productive.

I think DDL being lurky in the particular way he is lurky here could be a scumtell. He is SR one of my top TR as well. I also think my top pick for scum, slimer, is behaving in a very shady way around this slot.

[Amrun]

You don’t have to lynch DDL to work as a team. Already this conversation is 100x more productive.

That’s basically what you implied earlier though. “We think he is scum” and you’re working against us

No. I said you clogging up the thread misrepping Chamber and making noise is antitown. The DDL comment was unrelated, in response to you saying that people are policy lynching a lurker, which is false. And “we” wasn’t even town there - it was “people on his wagon (plus me since I declared intent).” I don’t know that everyone on his wagon is town.

[Amrun]

Amrun why do you tr turkey so much

Tonal I guess. His reaction to my opening after our last game where he vengekilled me. (I was godfather.)

[Amrun]

in response to you saying that people are policy lynching a lurker, which is false.

I’m sure I stand alone I’m thinking it’s a PL but he claims he is busy irl. Him being busy is an explanation as to why his play isn’t any good.

Now we all have to decide if we believe him or we don’t. I believe him so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. I’m willing to wait until Thursday to see if his play improves.

As am I but that doesn’t mean I can’t apply pressure and see what shakes out.

[Amrun]

As am I but that doesn’t mean I can’t apply pressure and see what shakes out.

You declared intent. If you apply pressure he’s dead.

Declaring intent is applying pressure.

[Amrun]

Most words have emotion to them. Your choice of the word “tunnel,” which you admit was “jumping the gun” was very telling.

I didn’t say bug/slimer team because you two were tied, you were just my two top picks for scum. You also happen to not have a reason I don’t think you could be a team.

I see someone coming to me with a crappy reason, of course I'd think they're trying to pun some sort of false narrative onto me. I thought they were tunneling me because their behavior was unreasonable. I stand by that.

I like a bug spray/slime team right in this minute.

You said team. Not these two, but team. That choice of word, reguardless of what you meant by it, would come to me as you thinking we're a team. And I'm not entirely convinced you were thinking it's because we were tied neither. It's kind of odd you'd use the word

team

if that were the case

I really don’t understand what you’re trying to say. It’s a micro so there’s very likely to be two scum. Two scumreads, if correct, are necessarily a team.

There is cognitive dissonance here - I supposedly ascribed too much “emotion” to the word tunnel, but you’ll do that with “team” in the same breath and not see an issue.


Also, apologies about pronouns. I suck at that but it’s not on purpose. I’ll try harder.

[Amrun]

I’m rushing my son to the ER right now so depending on the outcome I might be all over the place or just gone

[Amrun]

Somewhat of a false alarm, all good for now

[Amrun]

VOTE: theslimer

Best wagon thats happened all day

[Amrun]

That’s L-1 btw.

[Amrun]

I imagine you would.

[Amrun]

@Scum: I’d like to reiterate that bugspray has crumbed cop. Just in case you forgot

If this was true, why the hell would you bold and reiterate it? Wtf?

[Amrun]

What did you misread re: me?

[Amrun]

@DDL: how did I disappear in any capacity?

[Amrun]

@DDL: how did I disappear in any capacity?

You seem really beetlejuice-y. I'm not sure that's always a scumtell but~.

I mean I think it can be a scumtell, I just don’t think that applies to me at all in this game in any capacity.

I’ve been a little distracted for several days with a very sick child, which I warned in thread though he’s been sick for weeks leading up to this, but that’s it.

[Amrun]

I mean I got into a pissing match with Wimpy which didn’t even involve me. But whatever, my presence is what it is. What has suffered most is my concentration but that’s just life.

[Amrun]

It’s pneumonia that he was hospitalized with, so that explains enough, I guess.

[Amrun]

This is his third hospitalization and he’s only been alive 15 months so it’s always something. The life of a mother!

[Amrun]

Why are you making it more enticing to kill you Sala

wut

[Amrun]

Waiting on slimer.

[Amrun]

I think there’s probably 1 scum in the neighbors

When and why did your opinion switch from this?

And who is the scum?

[Amrun]

Chamber before your hiatus were you generally an accurate player?

Do you want my answer or just chamber’s?

[Amrun]

Cool

consider me V/LA the rest of the day then.

Chamber before your hiatus were you generally an accurate player?

Do you want my answer or just chamber’s?

???

Where did he ask you?

He didn’t? Just wondering if he wanted opinions of the players who may have played with him then (such as myself)? I didn’t want to interrupt some attempt at sorting if he didn’t want my answer.

[Amrun]

I haven’t really done enough, I concede. It’s not relevant to my alignment though. I’m just barely staying afloat in team mafia etc. due to IRL issues with my son.

[Amrun]

I’m fairly content with this game at the moment because slimer wagon looking nice. I’m trying to wait for him to get to his PC in all fairness.

Also basically ignoring anything bug spray posts, not gonna lie

[Amrun]

amrun im sorry your son is sick, but it doesn't preclude the fact that you dropped your scumread on me entirely, when you even claimed to be willing to hammer (intent)

I didn’t, though. I think the team is most likely slimer/DDL through associative. I’m more confident on the slimer end though so I prefer that.

[Amrun]

I don’t feel like being a broken record.

I don’t want to rally more votes on you, I want to rally more votes on slimer.

[Amrun]

If your second of 2 scum reads was being wagoned would you really rally votes on the first rather than consolidating?

Is this to me?

No, that’s why I was fine with DDL wagon.

[Amrun]

I didn’t even really notice the alphabetical thing at first, but it’s weird. Definitely makes the readslist seem more faked to me.

[Amrun]

It’s just never what I would do as town. Little weird. Like you’re thinking more about producing reads and less about who is really scum.

Nothing major. Just saying.

[Amrun]

Please lead me down the path of thought that makes you think that scum me would craft a read list different than town would. You say it’s nothing major, but clearly you wanted to point it out and agree with chamber

By “nothing major” I mean I would never be convinced someone is scum from that alone but it can be a point in a richer case.

You wouldn’t purposefully do a reads list different than you would as town, but it may come from a different mindset that would lead to that. Have you ever done this as town?

[Amrun]

Is slimer never going to claim?

He said he wasn’t.

[Amrun]

Pretty upset with salamence here because I was promised things would make more sense. Really didn't like the way amrun was posting at the end of yesterday and was about to say as much when bugspray hammered.

How come? What bothered you?



I’m so disappoint about that green flip. I was convinced. :c

I need to reread but unless that changes my mind I’m parking on #2

Vote: DDL

[Amrun]

Is there some reason DDL can’t be scum independent of slimer? I think he is.

However, I do intend to re-read to see if slimer’s alignment can give me some insight I didn’t previously have, which is usually the case.

[Amrun]

Eh, don’t think we are at risk of a quick lynch so I’d rather my vote was doing something while I worked on it:

[Amrun]

Why does my expression of disappointment make you suspicious?

I wasn’t following Salamence20. I was following my own scumread that pre-existed his. I have no need to sheep and trust my own reads more, though I was happy he found slimer scummy as well, that’s always helpful.

Being wrong on one doesn’t mean he’s continually wrong. He’s probably right on DDL IMO.


That Looker post is pretty bad though. It’s abdicating responsibility of the mislynch while pushing another.

[Amrun]

It’s abdicating responsibility of the mislynch while pushing another.

:/

I mean from your POV you wouldn’t know that, I understand that, but I do.

[Amrun]

Is it a reasonable expectation to think this lynch will go through without discussion?

It’s a placeholder vote while I read through again to... y’know... generate discussion. So that’s unfair.

[Amrun]

Of course you may not agree, but does it make sense?

It does make a little more sense so I appreciate that answer. It’s still wrong though.

[Amrun]

I tried to get some last thoughts out of them in the neighbourhood (and gave some of my own) just in case one of us died. They didn't post. Other than picking up their prod they seemingly haven't done anything game related in over a week unless they have some sort of night action or are mafia.

This is seriously concerning.

[Amrun]

@chamber: Do you sustain the RR scumread or you think it’s a flake?

[Amrun]

So it’s from Wimpy still?

[Amrun]

I'm in a state of reconsidering everyone.

I'm not scumreading them for the absence.

To me this implies a scumread, but okay.

I did forget you didn’t like RR’s entrance.

[Amrun]

If they don’t post they’ll be replaced so I’m not worried about that.

[Amrun]

Which Tuesday was DDL supposed to come back and post? This Tuesday or last Tuesday?

I thought it was last Tuesday.

[Amrun]

Is it a reasonable expectation to think this lynch will go through without discussion?

It’s a placeholder vote while I read through again to... y’know... generate discussion. So that’s unfair.

Have you read through yet?

Sadly no. Hope to ASAP. Was hoping to at work yesterday but it was bananas.

[Amrun]

My chamber and gobble TR reads are still going strong. Easily the only things this game I feel confident about.

[Amrun]

Oh I love it when my pet wagon scumflips.

I haven’t done my analysis yet and with a scumflip I have a couple things to do that will likely shape my reads so I’ll hold off voting for now, but if I were voting, it would be Looker.

[Amrun]

I’m very sorry. I am not caught up in any of my games. Weekends are hard for me with family obligations. will catch up within 24 hours (hopefully less).

[Amrun]

First!

Hello VOTE: chamber

+town chamber

bugspay whats your read on wimpy rn

+buddy wimpyslot

idk nothing really stands out yet

im waiting a bit on chamber and looker. i like amrun and wimpy for town

+buddy for ONE person on this list IMO

I'm not interested in voting for slimer

Maintains consistent slimer TR with no real reasons (which is a part of why I thought they were a team but alas)

wow i just iso'd looker and its bad

Can we please just kill DDL and take night as a breather

VOTE: Slimer

I don't trust you, gobble.
VOTE: gobbledygook
Your votes have no conviction and you're pushing for the night.

this is the only post that's ~reads~, and even though i agree with it, ironically it has no conviction behind it either as in looker's next post he changes reads.]

im comfortable with this
VOTE: looker l-1
chamber you have the floor.

When slimer and Looker are competing, he goes strongly for Looker out of nowhere. Since slimer was town, I’m not exactly sure what this says about looker. Probably +town

my strongest townread is bugspray. i have a town read on wimpy-rubyred-slot, and a mild town read on chamber.

Where did the TR on bug spray come from? Out of the blue.

I think looker is just scum, both based on the wagon composition and the stagnation of his wagon yesterday as a counter to slimer.

VOTE: looker

Maintaining stance against looker.

i dont really understand chamber vote tbh

Except for one slight mention of chamber “slight town,” he completely avoids giving a stance on chamber, which is a bit weird. +buddy

[Amrun]

Votecount 1.08

theslimer3 - 5 - Salamence20, Looker, Amrun, gobbledygook, bugspray,

Looker - 3 - Ruby Red, theslimer3, DrDolittle
Ruby Red - 1 - chamber

Not Voting:

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-16 06:42:00)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.[/area]

I would expect one scum on slimer, one off. DDL is off.


+town for chamber who’s on a vanity wagon
+scum for Looker for being counterwagon to scum and being on slimer in a prime spot
+scum bug spray for being on slimer (but weaker)

Votecount 2.02

DrDolittle - 4 - gobbledygook, Amrun, bugspray, Titus,

Amrun - 3 - Looker, DrDolittle, chamber,

Not Voting:

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-26 09:00:00)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.[/area]

I’m the counterwagon to scum here and I would highly suspect scum to be on my wagon.

+scum Looker
+scum chamber

That being said, the manner in which Titus lolhammered DDL could have been meant to cut off discussion sooo

+scum Titus slot

But +town bug spray

[Amrun]

I think framing that wagon as being a counter wagon is disingenuous at best. I wanted pressure on you because you weren't doing enough for my taste. The fact that titus quickhammered frames the other votes as being more serious than any of them were likely meant to be.

I don’t think so - I think counterwagon is just a factual term. It wasn’t a comment on how serious it was. Does this comment mean you think bug spray is scum? Kind of confused what you are trying to say.

[Amrun]

Sorry guys, I arrived at work and didn’t finished posting the way I wanted to but did throw up what I had finished.

Here’s the gist of what I wanted to say:

I think chamber has bad associations with DDL. HOWEVER, I strongly TR chamber due to play. This was before his claim, which I just read and is bizarre, since he should have been on Salamence20 no questions.

Either way I’m not interested in lynching there today.


I think Looker looks Ok from DDL associatives, but the VCA for him is really bad IMO. And I agree with chamber that DDL is comfortable with distancing and IIRC I was in that game he referenced. Also not understanding the BoP posts from Looker, feels like buddying.

However, I also think the Titus/wimpy slot looks pretty bad from associatives with DDL.

I think final scum lies within {Looker, Titus}.

Going out on a limb and saying bug spray is town.

[Amrun]

Also I’m VT

[Amrun]

Who do you think is scum, Looker?

[Amrun]

Do you think he'd actually take the advice or say fuck off I know what I'm doing?

Amrun and I are going to kill each other. If Titus is alive tomorrow, kill her, too.

p-edit: Wimpy hasn't siteflaked; I'm playing with him right now.

Idk I’m stuck between the two of you atm.


@Titus: wimpy was force replaced here for being toxic, and is openly a secret alt, not a newbie.

[Amrun]

VOTE: Looker

Why are you abdicating responsibility? I don’t understand your motivation here, if town. So you’re probably not.

[Amrun]

Well I forgot bug spray was voting. My bad.


Not too sad though.

[Amrun]

I think its more or less inconceivable that I'd vote amrun at this point.

I assumed chamber was on me tbh.

[Amrun]

Scratch that...Creature said I was his top townread... But who would kill me? Set up Creature for ML?

Can you show me where he said this? I may be missing something.

[Amrun]

Chamber was lock scumreading your slot for a long time so I don’t think he was treating you as town at all.

[Amrun]

Chamber was lock scumreading your slot for a long time so I don’t think he was treating you as town at all.

How long are you VLA for? I am your backup mod in another game but I would feel stating it us unfair to you as a person and I can't wipe my brain.

I’m not hiding the reason; my daycare had a worker dropped percocet and it was infested by children so I’m really super stressed. My grandma is in the hospital. My son is sick again - croup again, which last time led to the pneumonia he was hospitalized for recently.

I am still basically here!! I just wanted everyone to know that if I happen to fall off the face of the earth for a day due to this, I had an IRL reason and not game related.

I do think the worst of it is over now but I want to leave it for a bit just to be sure.

[Amrun]

I posted it in my games but this one was in night.

[Amrun]

In this moment, Titus, because I’m totally thrown off by her saying she was chamber’s top TR. I want to think it over for awhile.

NKA looks bad for bug spray.

[Amrun]

Night kill analysis

[Amrun]

I forgot to mention that I’m not really considering NKA since we don’t know if chamber was target or not. That was like a vital sentence I left off.

[Amrun]

I think 2 goons as well.

[Amrun]

Amrun can you expland on your nka stuff?

What, specifically? The only kill I think is particularly interesting from an NKA standpoint is last night’s, but that’s only if chamber was directly targeted, which we can’t verify. I think it’s about equally as likely that the NK was on me.

[Amrun]

aite i'm caught up

the fuck is this gobble wagon

Votecount 1.03

gobbledygook - 4 - DrDolittle, theslimer3, chamber, Looker
DrDolittle - 2 - Salamence20, bugspray
theslimer3 - 1 - gobbledygook
chamber - 1 - Wimpy
Wimpy - 1 - Amrun

Not Voting:

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-16 06:42:00)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[/area]

shittiest wagon in history, feel like i haven't even seen anyone talking about gobble scum and imo he's fairly towny

salamence, amrun, gobble

all easily villagers to me

chamber

less strong but still lean villager

preliminarily gonna say all wolves are in {bugspray,

DDL

,

slimer, looker

}

I would marginally expect a DDL buddy to leave him in the pool based on his game presence at the time, but only as one of many, as seen here.

we got time though, would prefer looker and ddl to both get a chance to post more

(that's a hint to take gobble off L-1)

This is a bit oddly timed and could be seen as a soft defense of DDL who was being pressured for his “return” content that never really materialized.

yeah if i had to order my scumpool it's probably slimer -> bugspray -> ddl -> looker, towny to wolfy

slimer's giant catch up posts responding to everything were pretty wolfy but that readslist seems weird coming from a wolf

On the other hand, this is kinda far down the lynch pool to have a buddy.


IIRC Wimpy focused on chamber but I will look again.

[Amrun]

ddl isn't a bad wagon

VOTE: ddl
if chamber isn't going to happen, I am ok pressuring this

These looked good at first but when a DDL wagon was truly happening he just called it a lurker lynch and poo pooed it.

Making three posts none of which actually engage with the scum finding of the game is very suspect though.

=/=

Doing something just to look like you are doing something

VOTE: chamber

Reviews chambwr again shortly after.

Besides. Town win percentages go up when you mislynch day 1. So even if I’m wrong about chamber. He’s dead weight and we have good info to analyze.

Looks especially bad after chamber townflip.

Please focus on the actual game. Thanks.

I am actually. I’m trying to lynch scum while everyone else is trying to lynch a lurker.

Don’t make me compromise my own gameplay because you won’t shut the hell up and comment on anything else going on in the game

What am I supposed to comment on exactly?

It’s me vs chamber, a bunch of people vs a lurker.

Ddl should be given until Tuesday for his thing to be over. He isn’t being given a fair chance to play and if he flips town cause town didn’t want to wait a couple of days, that’s just terrible.

As I was reminded unnecessarily, this is a team game and if he is town, the team didn’t care enough to honor his request.

More semantics. I think he has a higher than random chance of flipping red which is pretty good for a day 1 lynch. I am compromising to further the game and achieve my goals, which is something you should learn.

Based on what? He’s a lurker who hasn’t posted much. Why does that make him scum? This is what I don’t understand. Sal is the only one I can remember who provided a reason and I’m not convinced by his reason. 2/3 others are sheeping and I believe you will also if you hammer.

Compromising with 11 days left? Why are we in a rush?

All bad DDL associations.

[Amrun]

VOTE: ddl
making a post in my personal pt on why i trust salamance that i'll probably post early on in d2

Did you ever post this, bug spray?

[Amrun]

Well yeah but it is his personal PT.

It doesn’t really matter because I’m not interested now. It’s more important that he never actually produced the post and DDL flipped scum.

Ugh. This is an annoying LyLo.

[Amrun]

Well yeah but it is his personal PT.

who's?

Yours I thought?

Have I confused something?

[Amrun]

Oh, dang it, I am so sorry. My bad 100%

[Amrun]

Ok I’m done second guessing myself. I don’t think scum would suggest no lynching here as it’s too asinine.

VOTE: Titus

[Amrun]

Anyone who actually thought I was scum deserves the responsibility of losing. No way I do all that as scum. Intentionally lurking as a scum strategy and town letting it happen is why town lost

Really? Because you openly argued against lynching DDL specifically because it was a lurker lynch. You don’t have room to talk.

[Amrun]

Titus... why did you lolhammer. I was going to point out that Amrun was bussing DDL based off her vote.

*sigh*

Why do you think you died, you turkey?!


I cannot believe I pulled this one out. I thought for sure we would lose this one.


Honestly I think town played pretty well. Thanks for having me. Sorry some IRL issues interrupted this game for me.

[Amrun]

Since I just read the dead thread, I would never fake a V/LA or IRL issue. It’s a little upsetting people thought that. I’d like to see any of you maintain a game when your very small child is actually very ill to the point he was eventually hospitalized. That is not fair.

I do mostly play at work, gobbles is right, though I wouldn’t categorize weekends as v/la in the way I used to 6 years ago. (Just only have time to snipe post mostly)

[Amrun]

Anyone who actually thought I was scum deserves the responsibility of losing. No way I do all that as scum. Intentionally lurking as a scum strategy and town letting it happen is why town lost

Really? Because you openly argued against lynching DDL specifically because it was a lurker lynch. You don’t have room to talk.

He said he was busy and I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. I didn’t think people soulfully actually lie about their reasons for lurking. Like I actually believed you also.

I don’t think he lied at all. He just failed to materialize good content when he came back because that’s harder as scum.

[Amrun]

I think you both did. You say you didn’t and I really hope you didn’t but it was obvious that lurking was both of your strategies

I don’t know how I could possibly be categorized as a lurker anyway. I was an active poster, plenty active enough.

You are toxic. Please go away.

[Amrun]

Since I just read the dead thread, I would never fake a V/LA or IRL issue. It’s a little upsetting people thought that. I’d like to see any of you maintain a game when your very small child is actually very ill to the point he was eventually hospitalized. That is not fair.

I do mostly play at work, gobbles is right, though I wouldn’t categorize weekends as v/la in the way I used to 6 years ago. (Just only have time to snipe post mostly)

I didn't read the whole dead thread but assuming I'm part of this, I wasn't accusing you of having a fake V/LA. If your posting rate and method of posting was 90% V/LA and 10% because you were scum, that would fit with what I meant.

I think Looker questioned if I was v/la at all. . It was site wide, easily verifiable.

[Amrun]

Since I just read the dead thread, I would never fake a V/LA or IRL issue. It’s a little upsetting people thought that.

Correct. I'm sorry if I ever implied I doubted you. I knew you were legit but I would feel bad if bugspray didn't.

Not you, you’re good. Not sure anyone was totally serious but I just wanted to be very clear that I would never do this.