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Wait are you doing this to yourself or to the posts you’re reading?Im a black cat anyway.
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In post 11, bugspray wrote:Hello everyone!I'm going to try something new for this game (also because maybe it will help end RVS sooner?) after I've typed up each of my posts I will reread them and decide if I feel any bits are alignment indicative. Then I will italicize anything I think is townish and bold anything I think is scummish. This is for the benefit of town and also myself.
VOTE: slimer
Fixed it for ya.
But seriously if you’re town, your posts will be interpreted based on their feelings, not whether or not it’s bold. That’ll just kinda waste your time imoIm a black cat anyway.
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What, is RQS dead or something?
Also wouldn’t be the first time I’ve hit l-1 for not doing rvsIm a black cat anyway.
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Wait wha? Like top or bottom of the page?
My apologies, next time it’s the beginning of the game I’ll be sure to find the scum before posting twiceIn post 28, chamber wrote:
Not voting early is w/e. Making three posts none of which actually engage with the scum finding of the game is very suspect though.In post 24, theslimer3 wrote:What, is RQS dead or something?
Also wouldn’t be the first time I’ve hit l-1 for not doing rvsIm a black cat anyway.
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I still don’t see how my opening is terribleIn post 29, Salamence20 wrote:In post 11, bugspray wrote:Hello everyone!I'm going to try something new for this game(also because maybe it will help end RVS sooner?) after I've typed up each of my postsI will reread themanddecide if I feel any bits are alignment indicative. Then I willitalicize anything I think is townishandbold anything I think is scummish.This is for the benefit of townand also myself.
VOTE: slimer
Both of you have terrible opens by the way.In post 24, theslimer3 wrote:What, is RQS dead or something?
Also wouldn’t be the first time I’ve hit l-1 for not doing rvsIm a black cat anyway.
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So basically participate in rqs in the first part of the game no matter whatIn post 32, chamber wrote:It's not about knowing who the scum are 2 posts into the game. It's about making an effort to find out. You made a greeting post and then 2 reactive posts to NAI things.Im a black cat anyway.
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So lurking is less suspicious than engaging. Makes sense if you don’t think about itIm a black cat anyway.
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Vanilla townie is my favorite. You don’t have to worry about any external factors. You just play the gameIn post 42, gobbledygook wrote:This offends my sensibilities.
Over any other RVS question you ask this?
Please.
I like asking people what their favorite role is.
What is everyone’s favorite role?
@Gobble: I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. I didn’t think he’d go there ;-;
@Chamber: Every single one of my posts after my first one was addressed to someone. If that isn’t engagement then Webster needs a new dayjobIm a black cat anyway.
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You’re embarrassing yourself here.
My first post was a greeting
2nd post addressed to bug spray that made a weird post
3rd was another address, expanding my thoughts/ teasing them
4th addressing my wagon, which was there because I didn’t participate in rqs.
Why are you tunneling me so hard for no reason?Im a black cat anyway.
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Ketchup responses. Thank you guys for not being a newbie game and having every other post be a wall of text
I'm addressing a few things I've seen up to page 9. I'll come back around to do the next few pages in a sec
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I can't adhere to your logic and I have a strong feeling you're either the type who thinks they're never wrong or everyone else is stupidIn post 345, chamber wrote:
Making 3 posts ~= appearing to doing something, them not engaging with scumhunting ~= not actually doing something.In post 328, Wimpy wrote:
=/=In post 28, chamber wrote:Making three posts none of which actually engage with the scum finding of the game is very suspect though.
In post 326, chamber wrote:Doing something just to look like you are doing something
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See, this is why RVS makes no sense. We're supposed to take it seriously while also do what we want?In post 377, chamber wrote:I don't believe you. You are just throwing more shit at the wall to try and gish gallop your way into a miss-lynch.
I get you could just be trying to get one over on Wimpy, but it kinda makes no sense that you'd use RVS as evidence.
I'm genuinely not trying to say your logic is scummy, I'm just reeeaaally trying to follow what's going on hereIm a black cat anyway.
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Also I don't tend to vote someone until I'm fairly sure they're scum. That might have been what they've been doing. But they've also said they were trying to question me into a scumslip, so that's another reasonIn post 378, Wimpy wrote:
I bet if you asked everyone. Nobody thought that vote on me was serious.In post 372, chamber wrote:How about the fact that I never moved my vote to slimer as another reason to take it seriously?
The fact you didn’t vote slimer is why we are in this mess. If your vote was serious you should have said so at the time. Saying it multiple pages later is too lateIm a black cat anyway.
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ikr. Sometimes they bring up stuff that doesn't even make sense. I'm just watching this unfold before going to bedIn post 397, bugspray wrote:on the topic of neighborhoods... (and a bit tinfoil)
what if wimpy and chamber are svs? scum agreeing to be fake neighbors could really disrupt the town
also i trust salamance and the turkey, i think they both have put good ideas forward and i trust their plansIm a black cat anyway.
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When the heck have you done that? You just keep acting awkward. And yeah, I can admit that DDL has gone very little. I’ll iso him coming up soonIn post 446, gobbledygook wrote:You’re literally not lynching me and I’ve demonstrated more than enough that I’m town. The fact that you are ok voting for me when DDL has done cluckall the entire game is positive scum equity.
NahIn post 448, gobbledygook wrote:Like Slimer hasn’t even commented on DDL. If DDL flips scum big chance Slimer is the buddyIm a black cat anyway.
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Just wanna leave this here to remind myself or othersIn post 465, bugspray wrote:please stop calling me he
: From the way they post and general catchup with an attempt to get back into the game finding scum with very little schenanegins, I think he's pretty town.Amrun
: If town, then obviously trying to disrupt things. If scum then some form of noob scum. I'm leaning scum because who tries to fake crumb. Plus the whole maisons thing was weirdBugspray
With their interactions with Wimpy and gross mental assaults on him, I'm not sure if it's AtE or some sort of aggressive strategy. I've found one of their other games as town but they weren't nearly this aggressive, but at the same time, they didn't have Wimpy in it. I'm saying leaning scum, but I'll admit, more recently I'm putting him closer to townChamber:
Dude has no presence at all and isn't trying to hide it. But he also seems to be at a conference until Tuesday. I'll bite the bullet saying he's NAI until he gets back on Tuesday knowing full well people think we're scum partners. What's the worst that could happenDDL:
: Not sure how I did this while rereading, but after ISOing, I think I kinda took all my frustrations of bugspray and threw them onto gobble? I'm actually kinda sorry about this, from what I read you don't seem bad at all, and actually seem to be scumhunting proficiently. I guess, there's no technical way to do it proficiently, but it seems good enough to not seem like you're just trying to let things pass you by. Remembering the opportunistic voting though, and the randomness. I'm willlllling to leave you as maybe town. For now I guessGobble
: A weird opening, a lack of meaningful posts, a ton of vote hopping,Looker
and I'm not sure what this means, but I'm willing to admit I missed something. Again.You're probably going to die N1, so I'm comfortable sheeping you D1. Make your one-shot count.
Lean scum, but NAI until they get back. It's a bit unfair to judge someone while they're V/LA because I've been this sparce while playing on V/LA before.
: Legit said "wait who is this"Ruby
reread update: Aww wimpy replaced out. I hope you have yourself a good one one man :c
Welcome aboard Ruby. They came in pretty alright, but I'm better at judging people through interaction, than ISO, so we'll see how I feel later about em. For now, they can get the same color as Wimpy. We'll let his legacy live on. Wimpy seemed pretty town to me. He seemed to handle himself pretty well against chamber due to the frustration of how their interactions went. Although, I tried talking to him while he was playing and seemed as though he ignored them, focusing only on Chamber. I think the emotional frustration was there enough to only see Wimpy.
: obvscum why aren't we lynching him?Salamence
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I see someone coming to me with a crappy reason, of course I'd think they're trying to pun some sort of false narrative onto me. I thought they were tunneling me because their behavior was unreasonable. I stand by that.In post 469, Amrun wrote:
Most words have emotion to them. Your choice of the word “tunnel,” which you admit was “jumping the gun” was very telling.
I didn’t say bug/slimer team because you two were tied, you were just my two top picks for scum. You also happen to not have a reason I don’t think you could be a team.
You said team. Not these two, but team. That choice of word, reguardless of what you meant by it, would come to me as you thinking we're a team. And I'm not entirely convinced you were thinking it's because we were tied neither. It's kind of odd you'd use the wordI like a bug spray/slime team right in this minute.teamif that were the caseIm a black cat anyway.
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In post 510, Looker wrote:In post 444, gobbledygook wrote:Can we please just kill DDL and take night as a breatherI don't trust you, gobble.
VOTE: gobbledygook
Your votes have no conviction and you're pushing for the night.
Why is this question so important to you that it haults things for you? It's addressed to cover you, not address whether or not he could be scumIn post 512, gobbledygook wrote:That’s the second time you’ve levied that accusation against me. You sure it isn’t a playstyle difference between you and me, Looker?Im a black cat anyway.
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I hope your son's okay :cIn post 671, Amrun wrote:I’m rushing my son to the ER right now so depending on the outcome I might be all over the place or just goneIm a black cat anyway.
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In post 436, Looker wrote:Is this typically what Wimpy does? He did it in another game and then replaced out after getting upset. I'm not impressed by this cult of alts this site has going on.
You're probably going to die N1, so I'm comfortable sheeping you D1. Make your one-shot count.
VOTE: DrDolittleIn post 510, Looker wrote:In post 444, gobbledygook wrote:Can we please just kill DDL and take night as a breatherI don't trust you, gobble.
VOTE: gobbledygook
Your votes have no conviction and you're pushing for the night.
Every time you come back you have a different voteIn post 672, Looker wrote:
We'll know when you flip...in both places.In post 512, gobbledygook wrote:That’s the second time you’ve levied that accusation against me. You sure it isn’t a playstyle difference between you and me, Looker?Again? Does Wimpy ever finish any games? (I won't look it up to see) His spam was a very effective method to keep me from reading the thread.
What, did you tally up post counts or something? It's possible there's a relationship between you and DDL, but I can't say that it's scum.In post 641, Ruby Red wrote:salamence says he has some plan to win no matter what but i'm not really convinced on DDL, meta argument didn't seem very strong and his play doesn't look terrible
i think looker is easily the scummiest person in this game and it would be criminal for him not to die today
VOTE: looker
Was this someone's cue to think for you?In post 645, Salamence20 wrote:How do I feel about this, how do I feel about this?The attack was super effective.
I'm sorry you have to go through that; I hope everything turns out okay.In post 671, Amrun wrote:I’m rushing my son to the ER right now so depending on the outcome I might be all over the place or just gone
Sal is town and was voting for DDL. Sal was taken off of DDL for some reason. If DDL is scum, I know who to target.
VOTE: DrDolittle
Why would scum distract Sal from voting town? To me, it would be an easy kill.Im a black cat anyway.
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In post 699, bugspray wrote:Your two scumreads are me (town) and chamber who you say
which just seems like you are being really ungenuine.I'm saying leaning scum, but I'll admit, more recently I'm putting him closer to town
This seems like you're scum but you can't figure out which townies to try lynching so you've sort of casting a large net full of holes
Yeah, very perceptive of you, I casted a large net of 2 people to choose from as scum.In post 700, bugspray wrote:I think you choose me to be the more "real" scum in that farcelist because you're afraid of me (posting from Subway and had to hastily leave this out because we were leaving a stop)
Maybe, and this might be a crazy idea, but juuust maybe, I'm a townie trying to figure out who's scum and I just have no idea. Food for thought.
And I literally fear you the least out of anyone. No offense, but aside from the two on v/la you seem to be putting in the least amount of work in actually trying to find who scum is
and I still don't. Is it because he could defend himself or something? From the way you offhandedly lol'd at me trying to go for a lynch on him day 1, it seems as though you consider him a wild card, or at the very least hard to readIn post 701, Salamence20 wrote:
If you couldnt figure out why I told bugspray to answer that first idk what to tell you.In post 698, theslimer3 wrote:I'm so glad you're an ICIm a black cat anyway.
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Not gonna lie, that's a very good reasonIn post 706, Salamence20 wrote: Also why did I ask him to answer first? To make sure he wasnt just sheeping my opinion or your list
But I strongly disagree that this is ignorant noob-town. I've had bravado as noobtown before, but his behavior just doesn't make sense as townIm a black cat anyway.
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Crap I pressed send twice. My bad
@BBMolla after confirming they have the same information, can you delete post 709?
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My insight is literally tacked on the side of what I'm seeing. What do you want me to do, give a meta commentary on their outlooks on life too?Salamence20 wrote:And finally, after going back on it a couple of times, i dont like your reads myself because they feel “vanilla.”
Youre just posting obvious things and not really giving insight to anything (bugspray is disruptive, chamber is emotional, looker/ddl havent done anything). Gives me a fake scumhunting vibe tbhLast edited by BBmolla on Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:47 am, edited 1 time in total.Im a black cat anyway.
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@buggy: I'm really sorry about that, it's a bit of a struggle for me with pronouns, that's why I tried setting a reminder for myself
And what on earth do you want me to say? I've already said my piece and I'm better about observing things through interaction with me, than observation.
but what is it you wan't me to say exactly? Is there something you think I'm holding back or just don't want to say or something? Because in order for you to think that there has to be an equal pull of me not saying something
@Salamander: Well that's fair actually. Day 2 we'll see what happens with him I guess
But I'd rather look more into looker than DDL and see what he has to say about... well literally anything. He pops in, sheeps a vote, then pops back out of existance (v/la, I know, but I'm observing him under these quantum events)
If he looks more townie after he's been around enough, then I'm okay with DDL as a compromise. Otherwise, he's who I have my eyes on for now
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@chamberling: I'm notoriously bad at giving them, but I'll try to find a game where I haveIm a black cat anyway.
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I managed to find 3. I give reads out a lot rarer than I thought I did.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 6#p9464266
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that’s why looking into interactions and trying to get into the minds of people is our best shot at finding scum. And the fact that you seem to just be lulling about instead of trying to see who could be scum makes me pretty sure. You’ve had plenty of chances to say something meaningful. And your last post kinda solidifies that you’re not going to scumhunt at all.In post 729, Looker wrote:
Do you feel there's a reason for any of it at this point? The only confirmed role is Sal.In post 723, theslimer3 wrote:Is there a reason for that or am I just the hot topic?Good; now keep it there until Amrun/Ruby Red tell you otherwise.
Do you really think I'm abrasive...?
And no, I was referring to BugIm a black cat anyway.
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I have no regrets, but we do kinda have 9 days left so I’d rather not do this nowIm a black cat anyway.
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I look at the list of players playing and go over the isos and relay what I feel. Although I don’t understand all of your obsessions with my listIm a black cat anyway.
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Actually if you relook on the list, Chamber was my closest scum lead to being town
[quote] Chamber: With their interactions with Wimpy and gross mental assaults on him, I'm not sure if it's AtE or some sort of aggressive strategy. I've found one of their other games as town but they weren't nearly this aggressive, but at the same time, they didn't have Wimpy in it. I'm saying leaning scum, but I'll admit, more recentlyI'm putting him closer to town
Looker was lean scum but I wanted to hear more from him, but he’s said very little in attempts to scumhunt, he just seems to want someone lynched.
I’m guessing you saw the colors and assumed that everyone who was red and green were my concrete solutions and didn’t bother to read them furtherIm a black cat anyway.
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@Scum: I’d like to reiterate that bugspray has crumbed cop. Just in case you forgotIm a black cat anyway.
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No. I did not go back on what I've said. I've literally stated what I felt, and you chose to pay attention to the colors rather than what I've said. You seem to have a very nasty habit of nit picking something small and trying to make it larger, but I refuse to take responsibility for the fact that you think it's my fault for not having a wider color wheel for my options. And the fact that you're not reading what I'm saying, but rather looking at things on the surface is incredibly counter productive to scumhunting. you've misrepresented me multiple times now and I'm starting to think this isn't an accident.In post 747, chamber wrote:
I have a pretty big issue with retroactivisms like this. How did we know the words were more relevant than the colors? You gave yourself a lot of room to shift the meaning of things after the fact.In post 742, theslimer3 wrote:Actually if you relook on the list, Chamber was my closest scum lead to being town
Looker was lean scum but I wanted to hear more from him, but he’s said very little in attempts to scumhunt, he just seems to want someone lynched.Chamber: With their interactions with Wimpy and gross mental assaults on him, I'm not sure if it's AtE or some sort of aggressive strategy. I've found one of their other games as town but they weren't nearly this aggressive, but at the same time, they didn't have Wimpy in it. I'm saying leaning scum, but I'll admit, more recentlyI'm putting him closer to town
I’m guessing you saw the colors and assumed that everyone who was red and green were my concrete solutions and didn’t bother to read them further
Because it's the closest thing I have to a Vig kill, and they're always useful on the VI.
I used to be like you. Just played this game to screw around. I deeply regret it and it and it hit me hard when I realized that my shenanigans just ruined the fun of the game for players that I've respected. Ironically when I try to take the game seriously I get my payback by getting a taste of my own medicine. No offence, but there's no way you could understand this, but I hope you will one day, but you're a killjoy and it's annoying. I say this not out of malice, but out of being in your shoes.
Also know that I don't speak for everybody, and in some games it can be fun to be the wild cardIm a black cat anyway.
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Saying that I'm not scumhunting because my first 3 posts aren't very serious isn't a nitpick, It's an accusation that wants to lead to a conclusion. You hided that behind just trying to see my behavior, but you still stood by the fact that I wasn't taking my FIRST 3 POSTS OF THE GAME seriously, like it actually is alignment indicative.
Now you're trying to say that I can hide behind colors instead of the words I said. If anything, what I've said has far more to be criticized to it than whatever color pallet I've decided to go with. I've given reasons as to why I chose what I chose, and if you want to argue a hypothetical that I colored them because I wanted hide meaning behind them, then no matter what you say, you're misrepresenting me by nitpicking this.
Also this started with you saying that the way I've said things weren't detailed enough and only a visual account of the game (Which, I'm not sure how someone would typically give reads without doing that) so why haven't you tried following up on that? Also what are your reads? Show me how it's doneIm a black cat anyway.
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In the mean time,
Chamber, I misdirected you with someone who said my reads weren’t complete since you were asking for past games where I’ve given out reads
Looker, no it isn’t a scum tell, but it’s usually a hint of dishonesty, and so is inconsistency.
Plus me boldening saying that bugspray was a cop was my attempt to get him night killed
Bugspray doesn’t want to end the day so soon but will hammer me if chamber votes. Interesting.
K play with that till I get backIm a black cat anyway.
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Proud of you Bigsy. You seem to actually be thinking this time.
Look at looker. Also, no, I declared you noobtown because there’s no way scum could be this chaotic. I posted that earlier but I guess you neglected to read that too.
I’m pretty sure from the way looker has acted and interacted is scum. Kkthx
If I’m still alive before I can get to my pc I’ll address the other questions asked to me (if there were any)Im a black cat anyway.
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I’m sorry to hear Amrun. I hope everything goes well :c
Also it seems like either everyone’s going to V/LA or isn’t feeling it today. Just hammer someone (looker pls) and let’s get on with things.
Speaking of which, Hammer what are your reads if you have anyIm a black cat anyway.
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What question are you referring toIn post 906, gobbledygook wrote:
Did you answer the questions that Chamber was waiting for?In post 905, theslimer3 wrote:I’m sorry to hear Amrun. I hope everything goes well :c
Also it seems like either everyone’s going to V/LA or isn’t feeling it today. Just hammer someone (looker pls) and let’s get on with things.
Speaking of which, Hammer what are your reads if you have anyIm a black cat anyway.
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He was but I’m assuming he wanted me to speak my peace. What about you? What do you desire?Im a black cat anyway.
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But why though? It doesn’t seem as though you’d get anything out of it other than him possibly hammering me. Is that what you wanted then? Not thetruthIm a black cat anyway.
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No, I’m not claiming, and I alphabetically ordered them because I was going off of the activity viewer. I’ve said all I’ve had to say for now but I’d love to answer any more questions. Preferably ones that go somewhereIm a black cat anyway.
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Yeah, more than likely. I’m not ocd, but I do like structure. Don’t you want to know more about things I’ve said, rather than the way I do things? It kinda just seems like you’re asking questions for questions sake againIm a black cat anyway.
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This is addressed to you, gobbleIn post 921, theslimer3 wrote:But why though? It doesn’t seem as though you’d get anything out of it other than him possibly hammering me. Is that what you wanted then? Not thetruthIm a black cat anyway.
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Bugspray said I was effectively at L-1 until I responded again. I’m sure you didn’t miss thatIm a black cat anyway.
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How on earth did you come to that conclusionIn post 936, Amrun wrote:I didn’t even really notice the alphabetical thing at first, but it’s weird. Definitely makes the readslist seem more faked to me.Im a black cat anyway.
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Please lead me down the path of thought that makes you think that scum me would craft a read list different than town would. You say it’s nothing major, but clearly you wanted to point it out and agree with chamberIm a black cat anyway.
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