Mini Normal 2114: Game Over

[Ankamius]

How ironic is it that I replaced the guy who said mislynches day 1 are better than scumlynches

That was so perfect I had to take it

[Ankamius]

I'd tell you guys all about it, but I'm going to bed

The witch hunting will have to wait until I've had my beauty sleep

[Ankamius]

UNVOTE:

[Ankamius]

Bonus points for whoever can point me towards the most important parts of the thread so far since that's the best way for me to hit the ground running

Ty and good night

[Ankamius]

lmao nomnomnom is town

nice

[Ankamius]

X

[Ankamius]

this should be a fun time

I can't wait to hear why people scumread this slot

[Ankamius]

that means nothing to me

[Ankamius]

I wasted my day off

are you all proud of me

[Ankamius]

eh

vibing slight town on it

[Ankamius]

honestly though

the way he talks is hard for me to read so I wouldn't really put any stock in that specifically

[Ankamius]

right, wimpo's probably town. it was an overreaction but his tone read as genuine frustration. ank is a great replacement for that slot, she'll get some work done

omnom's frustration at Gjt seemed real, but could come from either alignment i believe. could definitely see scum genuinely frustrated at being scumread/questioned for such bizarre reasons. omnom, could i ask where your me/invis suspicions arise from?

Wait... are you somebody I know?

[Ankamius]

Do you TR ankamius like you TR wimpy?

i townread the slot, slight town pings from Ank calling omnom town in the way she did it but otherwise nothing on her

lmao nomnomnom is town

nice

i know it's slightly contradictory to read this post as town and then question it, but i'm TRing it's tone(?) rather than the read itself. why did you call omnom town after her interaction with gjt? can her frustration not come from scum?

Nom tends to struggle keeping her tone and thought processes consistent with each other as scum

She's already showing consistency

[Ankamius]

X

[Ankamius]

btw how important is it that I read the entire thread

just the little I've seen indicates there's minimal anything I can get from it

[Ankamius]

Well that was certainly an engagement

[Ankamius]

this should be a fun time

I can't wait to hear why people scumread this slot

I wonder if it would be possible to somehow show at the top of a post that "x player replaced in for y player" I always forget who they replaced and have to go look it up.

Ank, are you town?

Idk am I?

[Ankamius]

Do you TR ankamius like you TR wimpy?

i townread the slot, slight town pings from Ank calling omnom town in the way she did it but otherwise nothing on her

lmao nomnomnom is town

nice

i know it's slightly contradictory to read this post as town and then question it, but i'm TRing it's tone(?) rather than the read itself. why did you call omnom town after her interaction with gjt? can her frustration not come from scum?

Nom tends to struggle keeping her tone and thought processes consistent with each other as scum

She's already showing consistency

I’m just gonna pull the newb card and say I’m not sure what you mean; can I have an example?

Its more precise to say congruent rather than consistent

It basically means that when her thoughts follow a particular path, the emotion in each post matches how the thoughts progress

Its hard to go into in detail but generally players that can't keep them consistent sound like they're reading from a script rather than acting a part

[Ankamius]

X

[Ankamius]

tbh I think he's a real looker

no but really no read on him yet

[Ankamius]

Well that was certainly an engagement

Ok ank

Hi invis its nice to see you again

[Ankamius]

Is that a poe or scum list

[Ankamius]

I'll try to get into the game proper over the weekend

sorry, I've been sleeping like shit the last few daysand I'm waiting on a personal pt since that makes readthroughs more productive for me

[Ankamius]

skitter's making fun of me

but really I deserved it so fair

[Ankamius]

Ank, who am I sheeping?

why are you asking me this

[Ankamius]

because that came out of left field and the way I answer it changes based on context???

that can be interpreted as you pushing me saying you sheeped someone, but I never did
that can be interpreted as you asking me who you should sheep, but I never indicated being that into the game yet
that can be interpreted as you asking me to go into my townreads... I guess? but that's still a weird interpretation when it comes out of nowhere

all three of those give very different answers and depending on my mood I can interpret it in any of those three ways

[Ankamius]

that can be interpreted as you pushing me saying you sheeped someone, but I never did
that can be interpreted as you asking me who you should sheep, but I never indicated being that into the game yet
that can be interpreted as you asking me to go into my townreads... I guess? but that's still a weird interpretation when it comes out of nowhere

[Ankamius]

and yes the fact that you're scumreading my slot makes it even more ??? to me

[Ankamius]

well considering I haven't gotten fully caught up with the game yet, I don't have any real opinion on the players other than the fact that people seem to be wanting to kill the only townreads I actually do have

and considering those same players are kind of known for being easy to scumread as town, that's really not a good look for town this game

[Ankamius]

this game is bizarrely easy to get reads in

how is this game not solved yet?

[Ankamius]

Well kanna has only 1 completed game and a skim of that game, I don't see early obv towning. i can't comment on ongoing games so I don't believe you.

ah, that's a problem. ignore that comment then

Nicholai

why did you post this

[Ankamius]

ok

did kanna obvtown early in that game then

[Ankamius]

oh hey salamence was town too

[Ankamius]

I will purely be judging everyone on their actions on this game because I'm too lazy nor have the time to go check up on the history of everyone. Maybe its something I can pick up after a few more games here.

I will probably be playing in a way which you won't like and will observe a lot more before posting as a lot of what I see is basing current posts from previous games.

From what I've seen if Nicolai is Town probably won't last long because from experience Scum tend to hate active Townies. Chances are we will mislynch D1 unless someone seriously slips which is why scum often stay quiet D1 (not helping myself there) they'll spread their votes across Town. Not sure how many you usually get on a team here, but one I expect to vote/push one of their team mates. A lot of this phase is keeping track of the votes and who people chop and change too.

I don't have any strong leads yet, maybe a couple now leaning a little towards Town, but as said previously in my mind you are all Scum until you have convinced me otherwise

this is one of the most political things I've ever seen in a mafia game

[Ankamius]

Flavor Leaf

Jacku replaced by Salamence20* nomnomnom

Invisibility

Wimpy Ankamius

SausasaurusRex

TheFuzzylogic99

Kanna

Nicholai

joges

bob3141

pisskop replaced by Looker

Non lmh

Gjt*

p10 reads

[Ankamius]

I think I have a good enough read on how he plays to know the difference

[Ankamius]

I can already tell this is going to be one of those games where I'm going to incorrectly scumread someone and incorrectly townread someone for the same reason

this really feels like one of those games

[Ankamius]

scum invisibility
town invisibility

[Ankamius]

fun part about those games is that I was scum in both of them

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

this is always the funniest answer to any situation

[Ankamius]

now you see why I would call invisibility lynchbaity

[Ankamius]

scum invisibility
town invisibility

those two games are almost a year apart though, and the scum one was 2 months after he joined the site. i wouldn't put much stock into that.

those are just the two games I've personally played with him

I've seen him in a few games I've idly spectated between and since those games and he was one of those players where if you really looked, his content was town, but he'd just get lynched anyways

idk I think players like that are just easier to read if you know what to look for

[Ankamius]

@ankamius do you back Wimpys claim?

what claim

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

this is always the funniest answer to any situation

A chainsaw because I pushed Nomnom, and was obviously suspecting the slot because of me feeling Wimpy was scum, which I still do.

you take yourself too seriously if you think that vote was anything other than it looks at face value

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Kanna

[Ankamius]

Oo...what a good power play if you are scum.

how is this a power play

[Ankamius]

oh no I'm being scumread : (

[Ankamius]

careful fl don't break my brain pls

[Ankamius]

don't worry I'm a PR too

[Ankamius]

really looker

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Gjt

I'm over the day, let's just end it

[Ankamius]

@ankamius do you back Wimpys claim?

what claim

[Ankamius]

why do you want to know if I'm a VT or not

[Ankamius]

so yes, you do want to know if I'm a VT or not

[Ankamius]

you can call it what you want, but that's literally what you're asking under the surface

and I don't see any reason to answer it

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Gjt

I'm over the day, let's just end it

What leaves you certain enough that gjt is scum that you are happy to risk lynching a potential town pr. Do you beleive his pr claim or think that its fiction?

Or is it more of case you rather have lynch on another player. As you were voting kanna before you vote. A player on the same wagon as you now that you highlighted in red along side gjt and Nicholai.

1. general scumread
2. a lot of the game is a townread
3. the way he softed looks like scum trying to save themselves rather than a town pr trying to save themselves

[Ankamius]

oh hey I recognize the doge

[Ankamius]

I cc

[Ankamius]

if it helps

I'm blake

[Ankamius]

if it helps

I'm blake

oh hey
Explain why gbt is scum so I'll have a valid reason to vote my counter wagon

VOTE: Gjt

I'm over the day, let's just end it

What leaves you certain enough that gjt is scum that you are happy to risk lynching a potential town pr. Do you beleive his pr claim or think that its fiction?

Or is it more of case you rather have lynch on another player. As you were voting kanna before you vote. A player on the same wagon as you now that you highlighted in red along side gjt and Nicholai.

1. general scumread
2. a lot of the game is a townread
3. the way he softed looks like scum trying to save themselves rather than a town pr trying to save themselves

[Ankamius]

Kanna and my slot

[Ankamius]

haha skitter gets an edit mark

not in this one!

[Ankamius]

Kanna and my slot

before I do that
Last game when u were blake u used another alt and had a different tone.

Is this gonna be one of those things where u use a different tone for different alts

This is my main

I replaced alacrity with blake because of tone yes, every account is different tonally except for hydras

[Ankamius]

hi guys what did I miss

[Ankamius]

oh I missed FL calling me scum

ok lemme know when something interesting happens

[Ankamius]

FL's posting today isn't as town as it looks

Fuzzy idk, probably town

[Ankamius]

yes my plan when replacing in was to hard townread both of my scumpartners for no reason

[Ankamius]

I hope you have a better opinion of my scumgame than to actually believe that I'd do virtually nothing but that when replacing in

when I have the advantage of a playerlist that almost entirely has no idea what the difference between my towngame and scumgame is, and a gamestate where it's entirely possible to just wrest control over and brute force a phase shift away from my scumpartners being the main targets

[Ankamius]

Are you seeing why I don't think your posting is town yet

[Ankamius]

You're doing all the same shit I've seen you do last time you were scum

[Ankamius]

Why are you posturing so much based off my posts?

[Ankamius]

You’re the player I am most familiar with and I can’t even say I’m that familiar with you as a player.

Ok

Then I hope that you know why I find that even more weird with your bizarre stance on me since I joined the game and that you keep changing it based on how I'm acting towards you

[Ankamius]

I'm ngl FL

it didn't click until this game, but if you're scum then I'm pretty certain I've figured out how to read you

[Ankamius]

I don’t base my reads off meta. I use it as complimentary. I read people’s potential agendas, and paint thousands of pictures and see which one looks correct. Then I dive deep into that picture, and I go forward like I’m correct, knowing I might not be, and when things start not to add up, I look into why, and usually that makes me reevaluate.

You are still ignoring multiple of my questions, like what purpose does me as a Hate Bus strong team scum player, ever force a lynch on ScumJOAT Nom on Day 1?

Like what scum purpose does that have? My scum game relies on gamestate control, something that doesn’t work unless partners are doing stuff.

do you understand what I'm getting at?

[Ankamius]

I really don't think you bussing or not actually matters in the grand scheme of things

when you place so much emphasis on the fact that you bussed a mafia PR, that really makes me wonder how town indicative it really is

:thonk:

[Ankamius]

I'm a lot more interested in why I keep getting the impression that you're trying to dance circles around me like you care about my opinion of you

when you think I'm scum, as you entered the day with

and then when I challenged you on that, you suddenly think I'm town because of it

and yet you keep deflecting back to that same point when I engage you on other things???

[Ankamius]

I really don't think you bussing or not actually matters in the grand scheme of things

when you place so much emphasis on the fact that you bussed a mafia PR, that really makes me wonder how town indicative it really is

:thonk:

You have avoided the question at least thrice now.

I’m not asking you if it’s town or scum indicative.

I’m asking you the purpose.

I think you're straight up not afraid of this playerlist and think it would be simple to take over the game completely

the PR in that case doesn't matter outside of edge cases, and the gain from being able to say that it's a stupid move for scum to do has a lot of value in establishing dominance over the playerlist.

[Ankamius]

I'm a lot more interested in why I keep getting the impression that you're trying to dance circles around me like you care about my opinion of you

when you think I'm scum, as you entered the day with

and then when I challenged you on that, you suddenly think I'm town because of it

and yet you keep deflecting back to that same point when I engage you on other things???

now address this

[Ankamius]

you literally didn't

I asked about your trajectory on ME specifically

[Ankamius]

I think you're straight up not afraid of this playerlist and think it would be simple to take over the game completely

So I choose to not go for a perfect scum victory?

how does this not fit that frame

[Ankamius]

you're so constantly hyperaware of your own playstyle as both alignments and put so much emphasis on the social aspect of the game

it wouldn't shock me in the slightest if you suddenly turned the tables solely to get an advantage during the day

all you really need is get universally townread and suddenly nothing actually matters anymore lol

[Ankamius]

I’m not insane, I think it’s more likely I nailed 2/3 scum than nailed 3/3 scum. I chose to lynch Nomnom over you yesterday for a reason. I chose to vote Invisibility over you today for a reason. And those reasons are, I think they have a much higher chance of my read on them being correct than my read on you being correct.

and you only acknowledged this after I challenged you.

[Ankamius]

no

I have the impression that you're trying to pull the wool over my eyes because your trajectory on me makes no fucking sense under a microscope

and you keep pulling the conversation back towards shit that doesn't matter to that frame because I don't give a shit whether you bus or not, that's not where my impression of you is coming from

my entire reason for this engagement is to decipher whether you're scum trying to manipulate me

[Ankamius]

and the fact that you're constantly emphasizing that you wouldn't ever bus and that I shouldn't scumread you because you never voted for me really isn't helping me townread you

[Ankamius]

lmao this is exactly the same shit you outright admitted to doing after that mini normal

I saw you doing similar things in restless spirits

I saw you doing similar things in that one krazy game you played in

and I never saw you doing this in vengeful ghosts, gameshow, or really any other game we were TvT in

what the fuck is the deal FL

[Ankamius]

How would I be manipulating you here? I’m literally saying I’m scum reading you. You’re incredibly scummy this game, and I’m still giving you the benefit of the doubt.

yet you're still acting like my opinion matters when I haven't done anything???

[Ankamius]

I think I've gotten all I'm going to get from this engagement

I'll be back later

[Ankamius]

I think I've gotten all I'm going to get from this engagement

I'll be back later

You need to reply about my DEB comments in Vengeful Ghosts, because that completely contradicted what you were saying.

I don’t think it was purposeful, i think it might have been an oversight. You say i was way different, and that DEB comment is almost exactly what happened in this game.

...........no???

I just checked your entire ISO for your Gjt mentions and saw that you flipflopped on Gjt for literally the entire game and there were several points where DEB was a straight up scumread or the very bottom of your null list

you were hard-against DEB entirely for the entirety of day one in vengeful

those aren't even close to the same

[Ankamius]

I also thought your vote on me yesterday was scummy. I think that’s fair too.

I'd like to know what's scummy about a vote that pretty blatantly has no teeth and is a joke

[Ankamius]

All logic states that you are just scum here, and I am ACTIVELY trying to town read you, because I want to believe that you are town just completely out of it here, because you’re right, I don’t believe that you make these types of plays as scum based on how I think of you as a player. I just don’t see you actively 1v1ing me like this as scum so blatantly off.

But on a surface level, you are by far the scummiest player to me in this game

, and I don’t believe you are a surface level scum player.

like what the fuck is this LOL

either I'm the scummiest player in the game, or I'm midrange scum, or you think I'm town because you think I'm scum

pick one and stick with it

[Ankamius]

Ankamius is a solid scum pick right now, I feel, but I don’t think she’s my top scum read. It just seems too easy to me if Ank is scum, and they were probably freaking out Day 1.

I’m down to case her more, though.

oh I missed FL calling me scum

ok lemme know when something interesting happens

What, you were like my #4 what you talking about.

Your GJT’s scum reads.

like

the one thing preventing me from just townreading you off of principle that you making absolutely no sense is town-indicative is the fact that it took so much to get to that point from a situation where that wasn't the case that I can't see that as genuine

I think I've hit the point where it's easier to just assume you live in a different dimension I can't understand because my head hurts every time I try

[Ankamius]

All logic states that you are just scum here, and I am ACTIVELY trying to town read you, because I want to believe that you are town just completely out of it here, because you’re right, I don’t believe that you make these types of plays as scum based on how I think of you as a player. I just don’t see you actively 1v1ing me like this as scum so blatantly off.

But on a surface level, you are by far the scummiest player to me in this game

, and I don’t believe you are a surface level scum player.

like what the fuck is this LOL

either I'm the scummiest player in the game, or I'm midrange scum, or you think I'm town because you think I'm scum

pick one and stick with it

I guess we really just don’t have that much experience with each other. That’s not how I play Mafia at all.

I don’t pick one or stick with anything when reading people. My reads don’t work like that.

if you're town, you really don't understand the perspective I have here

if you're scum, you understand and are trying to undermine the perspective

I can't even tell the difference anymore

[Ankamius]

I can already tell this is going to be one of those games where I'm going to incorrectly scumread someone and incorrectly townread someone for the same reason

this really feels like one of those games

lmao

I think this was nom/nicholai

[Ankamius]

All logic states that you are just scum here, and I am ACTIVELY trying to town read you, because I want to believe that you are town just completely out of it here, because you’re right, I don’t believe that you make these types of plays as scum based on how I think of you as a player. I just don’t see you actively 1v1ing me like this as scum so blatantly off.

But on a surface level, you are by far the scummiest player to me in this game

, and I don’t believe you are a surface level scum player.

like what the fuck is this LOL

either I'm the scummiest player in the game, or I'm midrange scum, or you think I'm town because you think I'm scum

pick one and stick with it

I guess we really just don’t have that much experience with each other. That’s not how I play Mafia at all.

I don’t pick one or stick with anything when reading people. My reads don’t work like that.

if you're town, you really don't understand the perspective I have here

if you're scum, you understand and are trying to undermine the perspective

I can't even tell the difference anymore

That’s what my ex gf said to me too.

I think we just have different perspectives.

I feel like your perspective on me is my trajectory on you specifically, and I’ve described that as well as I can.

I think you on a surface level is incredibly scummy, which is why I’m scum reading you. However, I don’t think you’re scum, because I don’t believe that I would scum read you based on surface level reasons if you were actually scum. I have not voted you, I have put many other people in front of the lynch priority list of you, such as Nom Nom and Invisibility. Your puzzle piece is red, but you might be a cherry instead of a tomato. I just haven’t found enough puzzle pieces to know if there are cherry trees here, but I think it’s likely based on the garden being near an orchard.

If that makes sense.

I don't care about your read on me

I'm confident enough in my ability to not be lynched to not care about it

what I care about is whether you're town or scum because you have a decisive advantage as scum if you're not discovered and your credibility removed before the end of the day

and the impression that you've been specifically tailoring things to me when I first entered the thread today and slightly before that makes me really paranoid about your intentions

[Ankamius]

you were forcereplaced early in gameshow and lynched d2 because krazy got triggered and brute forced it

[Ankamius]

idfk, the only other answer to that is to get enough confident reads to read you by proxy

[Ankamius]

oh that's who you were hydraing with?

that wasn't ever revealed

[Ankamius]

I think you’re town who’s got Flavor Fever.

If you’re scum, you’re playing me decently well, and probably are like “Flavor’s real easy to work”, but i don’t think that’s what’s happening?

I don't even know what flavor fever is

[Ankamius]

you're so constantly hyperaware of your own playstyle as both alignments and put so much emphasis on the social aspect of the game

it wouldn't shock me in the slightest if you suddenly turned the tables solely to get an advantage during the day

all you really need is get universally townread and suddenly nothing actually matters anymore lol

Then you just have Flavor Fever. Paranoia of me being scum so bad you have to scum read me.

That's not actually what's happening but if it makes sense to you then go ahead

[Ankamius]

Like

I really don't think I'm in the wrong for questioning your alignment when:

1. You're heavily insistent on being town because of a scumflip to any challenge I throw at you
2. Two of the biggest three scumreads you have entering the day is me and another player I still think is town
3. Your read on me does a ballet number based on me trying to reconcile the way you entered the game as your alignment
4. This playerlist being mostly either green players or unproven players, which are less likely to confidently see through your bullshit when you're scum
5. Knowing from past games that you've successfully pulled the wool over stronger playerlists in recent memory and have a strong scum win%
6. All past experience between us indicating I'm really not willing to put up with the bullshit that your playstyle generates when it disrupts the game

Reconciling that as paranoia is bizarre to me since I know you're aware of me at least on some level despite not having as much direct contact with each other

I'd still expect you to have at least some idea of how I play scum since I masterminded the neighborhood manipulation in your sorc game, so the idea that you think I could be scum with Nom3 and invisibility and make such a piss poor effort in my entrance to the game is... idk. This exact situation happened when I replaced into jazz mafia and I put up a lot more of a fight than I'm doing here

I can believe that you legitimately don't remember either of those instances, but it still isn't congruent with your general view of how I play

[Ankamius]

But in the end I don't really see any strong possibilities for your partners except for gjt, so there isn't much point in harping on that right now

I'll just try to find more town I guess

[Ankamius]

FL's posting today isn't as town as it looks

Fuzzy idk, probably town

So what do you feel is in FL posting that were missing. As he appears towny to me but you appear to see something that you beleive teh rest of us are missing.

What in your opinion has lead you to the conclusion that flav is scum. And what do you think his motivation for killing a player he would naturaly know is a town joat would be.

As it appear to me as flav pushs you more, you push back more. But im not sure yet if your scum trying to push back against the logic of player you feel is threat or more like skitter in her interactions with flav in plums game. Where she was scum reading flav day one but was unsure on him. And didnt risk want to risk lynching town flav. As i remember that game i was sure allot that pret was scum but was reluctant to lynch him until day 3. Although his partner bussed him first.

So ank do you feel pret is generally scum this day or do you think it is flav scum that has found a new gambit. And how has this progressed through out the day

no

it's me doing my job of checking for lose conditions, because I'm seeing the conditions met for a town loss in the case that FL is scum.

I don't think I understand how he thinks well enough to decipher his alignment accurately just from that one engagement, honestly it's probably just easier to assume he's town because the game's already over if he's not

[Ankamius]

Spoiler:

BOO

[Ankamius]

anyways

But in the end I don't really see any strong possibilities for your partners except for gjt, so there isn't much point in harping on that right now

I'll just try to find more town I guess

I haven't forgotten this

it's just a bad time thanks to work obligations fucking up my sleep schedule

so that's a thing

[Ankamius]

just don't end the day before I do my thing pls

[Ankamius]

Ank is town IMO

what got you there

[Ankamius]

I don't like alcohol

and I work in 15 minutes anyways

soz

[Ankamius]

hi what did I miss

[Ankamius]

Ew why did I decide to go to paris

Was I high the whole time???

[Ankamius]

I was aggressively null on FL throughout d1

I thought FL was scum on day two but eventually decided that unless he's scum with GJT, he's probably just town

[Ankamius]

this looker wagon is icky

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Kanna

every time I try to run through the game in my head, I don't get the impression this slot is town.

[Ankamius]

I think my impression d1 overall wasn't wrong, it's just the slots I happened to be wrong on all got flipped

Gjt and Kanna have the posts that I feel are the least town on d2 and I just have a feeling that the other slots are either just town or mislynch baity

[Ankamius]

good lord guys, calm down

I can't keep up with the breakneck pace of this game

[Ankamius]

[Ankamius]

btw flavor

if you think Gjt and I are both scum

why am I specifically your target

[Ankamius]

ok so where exactly are you even at right now

[Ankamius]

Looker what are the odds you are tunneling town

[Ankamius]

V/LA until February 7

I should still be able to post fine but I can't guarantee I'll be here every day

[Ankamius]

oh good

someone I can read

[Ankamius]

Excuse me I'm at work

[Ankamius]

How do you even know whether I'm town or not

[Ankamius]

Interesting

That makes sense assuming the playerlist too

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Gjt

[Ankamius]

that's the worst reason for a scumread I've ever gotten

and that's saying something

[Ankamius]

he claimed VT because he was mad

Gjt is trying to get me to confirm or deny that claim because ???

[Ankamius]

what's your townblock

[Ankamius]

I'm scumreading Kanna and idk how to feel about joges yet

but otherwise I'm fine with it

[Ankamius]

that's the worst reason for a scumread I've ever gotten

and that's saying something

[Ankamius]

and again

like the last time that was brought up

I'm not so bad at scum that I just enter the game, loltownread both my partners, and do nothing to derail the wagons on both of them

[Ankamius]

pikachu are you pulling the wool over my eyes

[Ankamius]

I don't care about PRs

[Ankamius]

fuck where's my fidget spinner

did I leave it at home again

[Ankamius]

UNVOTE: gjt
VOTE: joges

[Ankamius]

I guess?

I have two theories of what you're getting at but I don't really feel like either are what you're specifically seeing

[Ankamius]

Idk why he would need to discredit you then specifically though is the thing

[Ankamius]

Honestly I'm not scumreading you atm

My poe is like 4 players

[Ankamius]

Joges is indeed one of them.

I'm looking for something specific from the gamestate but it's not beneficial to out what it is atm

[Ankamius]

Bob

Idk what it is but I swear your posts are like Chinese for me

[Ankamius]

Say the words in your head as you type them

That's what I do

[Ankamius]

Pika what are your reads again

[Ankamius]

oh i do say the words but 5 different sentances at the same time lol.

my thoughts dont realy fit into paraghraphs. there more suited to a 3rd flow diagram. With countless loops and double backing like good rollercoaster

Maybe

Its like I physically can't stop my eyes from going skim mode on your posts

[Ankamius]

I'm in my own world tbh

[Ankamius]

sure

I could use a dose of reality

[Ankamius]

awwww FL likes me

[Ankamius]

anybody here

[Ankamius]

fuzzy what do you think the single most interesting thing about the game is

[Ankamius]

@Kanna

I just glanced at your other games, and I'm really curious why I'm getting a very different vibe from your posting this game compared to all three of the others.

[Ankamius]

yeah I'm not seeing Sauce as scum, sorry

[Ankamius]

T O W N
Ankamius
Detective Pikachu
Flavor Leaf
Invisibility
SausasaurusRex
TheFuzzylogic99
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P O E
bob3141
joges
Looker
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S C U M
Gjt
Kanna

[Ankamius]

ftr I think Looker is more likely to be town than bob or joges are, but he's still in the PoE mainly because I don't get the warm fuzzies from townreading him like I do everybody above that

[Ankamius]

I've put in my daily quota of effort for the day

back to idling

[Ankamius]

"daily"
"for the day"

nice

[Ankamius]

FL makes me want to make me want to jump out the nearest window ( luckily I am on the first story)

Thoughts
I think that one scum stayed on the Gjt wagon and one lept on the Nom wagon toward the end. This means that if my theory is correct then either Ank or Jorge are scum
and also SausasaurusRex, invisibility, kanna, or looker

should be back with more thoughts

My gut is neither Looker nor Joges is Scum, it's not concrete, but they are my main Town Leans

I think I’m here too.

I also think Rex is town, you’re probably just obnoxious town.

Fuzzy, DP, Ank, Invisibility, Kanna contain the rest of the scum.

I'm going to be blunt FL

your reads are horrible

[Ankamius]

invisibility is like... obvtown
DP is obvtown but it might just be me
Fuzzy looks town to me
and I'm obviously town

you're literally 1/5 at best and I'm giving you joges since he's someone I strongly doubt I'll be able to read him anytime soon

[Ankamius]

if I absolutely have to, I'll scrounge together a kanna case

but at minimum that's not happening until we have an engagement about what I mentioned earlier, because her answer to that will strongly affect how I view her slot

[Ankamius]

what did you not see as scum from sausage tho?

...everything?

[Ankamius]

I don't get why people are even wagoning him in the first place

What does his flip do for the game and/or why is he scum

[Ankamius]

I don't

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Ankamius

I'm going back here, still have doubt on Invis and think this could possibly be the remaining Scum, seems more chance of an Ank lynch

lol

[Ankamius]

I don't think I've ever been scumcased for not doubling down on a fucking VT claim

that's some next level shit right there

[Ankamius]

???

and I've mentioned before

why in any universe would I confirm whether I'm a VT or not

you've yet to give any reason why that would be anything but anti-town as fuck

[Ankamius]

I just looked and the engagement was basically that except you ended it by saying that wimpy was lying about being a VT if I am not willing to back it up and therefore it's scum

that makes approximately -10 sense

[Ankamius]

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Ankamius]

IS ANYBODY READING THIS?

[Ankamius]

@Kanna

I just glanced at your other games, and I'm really curious why I'm getting a very different vibe from your posting this game compared to all three of the others.

Really? What sort of vibe do I give off here vs anywhere else?

a lot less like you're trying to solve the game.

[Ankamius]

do I need to get my big red X button ready

[Ankamius]

are you assuming I'm trying to date you or kill you

because neither are the case

[Ankamius]

sorry fl but I'm not actually looking for a partner

and I've satiated my bloodlust for the year already

[Ankamius]

well that statement was literally true but if you like that interpretation better then go for it

[Ankamius]

is this actually happening

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Kanna

[Ankamius]

idk how I feel about kanna replacing out immediately after I start pushing her

[Ankamius]

idk how I feel about kanna replacing out immediately after I start pushing her

You’ve been pushing her as scum since Day 1.

X

not like this no

[Ankamius]

FL are you scum

[Ankamius]

Plus the Ank/FL reads are just super awkward to be coming from scum, I feel he genuinely feels that way, and in fact, Ank flips scum, he’s right.

this is like

aggressively bad FL

AGGRESSIVELY bad

[Ankamius]

Like, you can’t possibly think I can be scum here, Ank, and that’s a big reason I believe you to be scum, because I don’t think you believe it either, but you have to push it and discredit me.

trust me, I'd be fighting a lot harder if I was trying to discredit you

[Ankamius]

town's odds of winning plummet to 2-3% if I get lynched

[Ankamius]

FL

you have to realize

I'm literally burnt out on mafia and don't care enough to fight my own lynch in a playerlist that is not going to be receptive to it
and I've been working overtime on the most stressful shift this past week and am going to be continuing this week for the same thing

I really do not feel the need to try very hard to stop it

[Ankamius]

plus the idea that you misread me hard enough to push a mislynch through after blubbering about how you have the game solved is actually very amusing to me right now

[Ankamius]

I would be relishing the challenge as scum

???

[Ankamius]

really awkward early d1 posts and an indication that it's scum-indicative when I looked at her past towngames

[Ankamius]

I'm a lot more calm than you think I am boon

[Ankamius]

Ready to be the big damn hero. What should I know?

apparently I'm being lynched

[Ankamius]

I didn't directly compare them, det

I compared partially how the posting feels and partially her general mindset into the game

[Ankamius]

I really don't understand that det

I didn't like how fluffy her early posting is and how detached she felt from the game when starting to go into more AI stuff

and yet in her town games, she's able to get into the game more easily and has more confidence in what she's posting is genuine

[Ankamius]

this is the kind of thing I attribute to scum much more often than town on newer players since that's generally how people handle scum after being town a few times

[Ankamius]

looooool

[Ankamius]

I'm disengaging

cya

[Ankamius]

are you guys still arguing

lol

[Ankamius]

watching this thread keep jumping to the top of my egopost

[Ankamius]

I'm surprised nobody's figured out who you are yet

[Ankamius]

I bet this is how skitter feels when I paranoia tunnel her

[Ankamius]

legit

this looks almost exactly what happens when I go into tunnel mode on shit that isn't actually scum, except I'm not willing to put up with it and make the game completely unreadable on the offchance that people get their shit together after they realize I'm town and start realizing that maybe people are just looking at the game the wrong way

just realize, I have the highest BoP on reading Detective Pikachu here, and it's pretty obvious he's town. I expect FL to go along with his fucking crusade and try to lynch him, but I guarantee you town will straight up lose by lynching him after me.

Gjt is just fucking scum. Straight up. His logic for thinking I'm scum is horrifically bad and the fact that he's endlessly doubling down on it despite having to realize by now that something is straight up wrong with it really is not ever a town thought process.

Kanna-slot, Joges-slot, or FL are the most likely partners. Fuzzy I guess can be a partner if somehow all 3 aren't, but I expect all scum are within those four slots. I don't think it's impossible FL is just scum trying to brute force this lynch through while I don't give a shit about the game so that I don't have the opportunity to drag people to the correct answer later on, but who the hell knows honestly

[Ankamius]

get this shit over with

VOTE: Ankamius

[Ankamius]

For the record, any protectives should always be on Det Pikachu. Period.

No exceptions.

[Ankamius]

Even the self vote is scummy. I'm not Scum, I'll make everyone a deal, if I flip Scum I will never play here again. That's how much truth there is in my claim

This is against site rules.

[Ankamius]

I don't think fl is scum

He's in my scum list because gjt is scum

[Ankamius]

get this shit over with

VOTE: Ankamius

last time ive seen you do this is when you were scum. Your last few posts is just making me feel liek your trying to soem ate that you tried that game

I specifically suicided in that game to manipulate the gamestate.

I'm doing the same thing here, just as town this time.

[Ankamius]

I barely read his posts