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[Flavor Leaf]

Haven’t seen the fuzzy guy in a while

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m Boonskiies. I just remember your name and avatar, who knows if we’ve played together that much.

[Flavor Leaf]

I forgot to subscribe this game

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I’m town lurking for a bit. That’s my reaction to your so called pressure

[Flavor Leaf]

Boonskiies is the name Flavour Leaf uses when modding. and no, i am not JC on that unnamed site you speak of

Notice the U when they say my name. This drastically narrows down who they are, of which at the moment, I have no clue.

But when, yes when, I won’t put it anyways.


And people say I shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it, but like, I’ve gone on hidden alts and done the same thing, and still do.

Also, with the exception of maybe you, maybe, I don’t know if anyone here really knows me that well even.

Which is good. People think I just float on the clout, but the clout floats on me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Pisskop is in this game, he can town read me correctly late game.

Bob’s only seen my scum game on alts.

[Flavor Leaf]

actually two (he was mafia in both) the slippery plant

Oh. Got it.

[Flavor Leaf]

I feel like Joges was in the only game I got aggro in of 2019, but then I realized Gustavo is a Chumba Alt, so that made sense.

[Flavor Leaf]

Town

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Nich, you look like obv scum to me right now

[Flavor Leaf]

People are really easily fooled.

Look what happened as soon as I said I was gonna lurk. I actively didnt lurk

[Flavor Leaf]

I dare scum to take me to 3p lylo

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Honestly Im shocked more people arent looking at Invis for scum

I get this feeling too, but he’s naturally scummy.

[Flavor Leaf]

What’s new, Pissycop? Whooooa oh oh oh.

[Flavor Leaf]

Joges, Rex, non, kop, invisible and flavor all could do more.

Could, and I would eventually

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m waiting for someone to take my bait.

[Flavor Leaf]

What bait? If somebody votes you it’s completely justified. You can’t claim you’re intentionally lurking until somebody votes you and then expect us to believe you when you call them scum

You act like I’m baiting the person who votes me.

I actually haven’t been even lurking here, I’ve literally just done a few pop ins and not been keeping up. I got a lot on my plate! So i chose to do a bait. I wish you guys would wait. If i stay here, imma be late. Trust me, it’s fate.

[Flavor Leaf]

Whoever you’re baiting. You’re going to have trouble convincing people

I’m quite persuasive.

[Flavor Leaf]

if we get to Lylo and we are stuck with a lurking Flavor.

Why would this ever be a thing?

[Flavor Leaf]

If i got to lylo through lurking, town would be in luck, because I’d solve the game and put forth the reasoning as to why.

I won 10 scum games in 2019, none by lurking all the way, don’t worry.

[Flavor Leaf]

Whoever you’re baiting. You’re going to have trouble convincing people

I’m quite persuasive.

I’ve heard. You’ve pretty much lost me though. Maybe some others

What is lost, can always be found. That’s why we have a lost and found.

[Flavor Leaf]

We’ll see

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We’ll see

how do you reply so quickly? do you have notifications? tell me your secret please

This site’s essentially like a social media site, so i refresh often. Sometimes I’m more active on Insta than LinkedIn, though,but i still see stuff happening on LI.

This game is the LinkedIn, if that didn’t make sense.

[Flavor Leaf]

This games still early, and i don’t have real reads yet, so until I have something;g to stick my teeth deeper into.

Stuff needs to happen.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: FlavourLeaf

I will take the bait. Bring it.

This is town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Slow game

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Feels like someone should add a little...flavor

[Flavor Leaf]

For what

[Flavor Leaf]

Joges is probably scum for his vote on me after taking time to sink it in like that.

VOTE: Joges

Let’s kill this and go to day 2 peepies.

[Flavor Leaf]

If Joges was town, scum would have hopped on. Scum didn’t hop because it was already heaped on the hip.

[Flavor Leaf]

Joges is probably scum for his vote on me after taking time to sink it in like that.

VOTE: Joges

Let’s kill this and go to day 2 peepies.

lul is this serious or more "bait"?

I’m a master at bait, but that doesn’t mean my baiting isn’t serious

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If Joges was town, scum would have hopped on. Scum didn’t hop because it was already heaped on the hip.

huh, that seems... flawed. why do they need to jump on you when there's other viable town wagons assuming Rex or Salsa are town? also me actually

I’m a higher priority mislynch.

I guarantee you scum are afraid of me right now. This playerlist I’m not super familiar with, but I believe players here are at least semi familiar with me, so nobody knows how to go about dealing with me.

You’re town read of mine right now because you’re literally the only one really talking with me rather than at me.

It’s very in the moment and genuine

[Flavor Leaf]

assuming Rex or Salsa are town

Don’t do that.

Day 1, scum are going to be town read. They just are. Sure, some might get scum read. I’ve locked people as town before because I scum read them.

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Yeah, which means scum is lurking in the shadows waiting to see what happens.

There’s no scum mastermind at play here, this much is obvious. It’s scum coasting, and staying completely unreadable.

They likely have been posting a little bit, but not enough where anyone could read them as scum and make an accurate case.

There is no reason for any of the scum to actually be scum as of right now. A case can not be made because there just isn’t enough content on the chain of scumminess. Need more pieces to the puzzle.

Gamestate dictates scum are waiting

[Flavor Leaf]

If Joges was town, scum would have hopped on. Scum didn’t hop because it was already heaped on the hip.

huh, that seems... flawed. why do they need to jump on you when there's other viable town wagons assuming Rex or Salsa are town? also me actually

I’m a higher priority mislynch.

I guarantee you scum are afraid of me right now. This playerlist I’m not super familiar with, but I believe players here are at least semi familiar with me, so nobody knows how to go about dealing with me.

You’re town read of mine right now because you’re literally the only one really talking with me rather than at me.

It’s very in the moment and genuine

what if they're scared of pushing you though? i doubt they think you're easy to mislynch. also i don't think a lot of people actually posted after Joges voted you

I’ve thought about that, and you’re probably right.

Joges isn’t town cleared by voting me there, though. And I believe that was a solid place to go to get this game moving.

I was trying to Daniel Craig from Knives Out this, but nobody’s giving me anything

[Flavor Leaf]

So Nicholai, work this case with me. You got a good heart. I wanna know everything

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t believe there’s ever a world in this game where I don’t eat a night kill, tbh.

[Flavor Leaf]

Talk to me about Kanna and Wimpo.

What do you like about them?

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What do you think of Rex so far?

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I’m 100% null on everything besides you. You are my handle bars into this world right now. I honestly don’t even know how I really feel about joges.

[Flavor Leaf]

Talk to me about Kanna and Wimpo.

What do you like about them?

Kanna for her tone being identical to a recent game with her, agreeing with her reads, her showing interest in solving by metaing someone earlier (forgot who)

And you don’t think she’d be aware of you knowing this and be able to fake it?

Actually asking, not a shade at anything. Curious on the personality

[Flavor Leaf]

Knowing you, would she not try to get you on her side early as scum?

How would scum her be different?

[Flavor Leaf]

Pisskop slot is probably scum, way too early prediction

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t remember a single post by them off the top of my head, but I’m okay lean towning there for now.

Kanna is likely town after your comments and a short iso dive.

Let’s talk Wimp.

I remember them, they were the one chopping at me earlier. That seemed like early discrediting attempts from scum, tbh. So i think I’m lean scum there.

[Flavor Leaf]

What thee how thee did Yee do a joint iso?!

[Flavor Leaf]

Joges is probably scum for his vote on me after taking time to sink it in like that.

VOTE: Joges

Let’s kill this and go to day 2 peepies.

So your bait was to both town and scum read me?

Told you; I’m a master at baiting

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lul i'm feeling buddied but gonna choose to cast that aside for now

regarding Kanna, she's a newbie and didn't know this account was an alt of someone she'd played with until a third in. idk, maybe she's a prodigy and is replicating her town game perfectly, but that's not an assumption i'm going towards, i'm gonna think she's town long before i suspect that

You are. From me. But I’m town, so it’s okay.

Have you seen Knives Out? If not, see it. I’m Daniel Craig, you’re the foreign girl, who’s the lead, and we need to figure out the story here

[Flavor Leaf]

Yup

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VOTE: Looker

[Flavor Leaf]

Can’t explain it, but I guarantee you that slot flips scum, based on my gut towards both Pisskop, and the fact that I just knew he was gonna replace out, and Looker’s entrance.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve just seen him lurk out as scum before more than I have town.

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I don’t like the “requested” part of the replacement either

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i also expect scum have a really dead PT, which implies scum waiting for stuff to happen and they aren’t really communicating. I’ve been getting really into scum team cohesion lately because a lot of players just play scum solo

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@ Looker
The choices you made seem random, both in the people you asked about and the people you asked. Any method to your madness?

Do you feel it would be fair for me to answer your question before you answered mine?

@FlavorLeaf:

If I flip town, who would you transfer suspicion to?

Wimpy, so we can kill them first.

VOTE: Wimpy

[Flavor Leaf]

No clue, i mentioned a little on red earlier.

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You don’t think either one is more scummy than the people you’ve been voting?

Naw, it’s day 1.

Townies be scummy af

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Mislynch Day 1 is not preferable, you just get more association tells deeper into the game is why it seems that way, but people don’t play around that.

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Why would it hurt? I’m thick skinned af

[Flavor Leaf]

Knowing you, would she not try to get you on her side early as scum?

How would scum her be different?

Post like this is making me lean towards FL being town this game. Its not like his last game where he was scum. As although many players scum read him he was very oily and was only lynched day 3 i think. Even though there had been pushs on him day 1 and day 2.

Here i get none of that feeling but a sense of openess from him. Both in his questioning but most in his evaluation. That last game he never realy asked question but pushed this case or that case

You’ve played 2 scum games of mine, and I believe those are the only games we’ve had.

I’m Rick dalton

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m vt.

Let’s just kill this. No need to get more claims this day phase.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m vt.

Let’s just kill this. No need to get more claims this day phase.

[Flavor Leaf]

Knowing you, would she not try to get you on her side early as scum?

How would scum her be different?

Post like this is making me lean towards FL being town this game. Its not like his last game where he was scum. As although many players scum read him he was very oily and was only lynched day 3 i think. Even though there had been pushs on him day 1 and day 2.

Here i get none of that feeling but a sense of openess from him. Both in his questioning but most in his evaluation. That last game he never realy asked question but pushed this case or that case

You’ve played 2 scum games of mine, and I believe those are the only games we’ve had.

I’m Rick dalton

2 town games too. Noms game where you repped into a town backup gunsmith and was night killed n1 and my second game were you were a vt and was nk 2

Yeah, I get nightkilled a lot.

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And nobody should be town reading flavor. Aside from his earlier lurking. He’s too experienced to believe we should just give up day 1 once somebody claims VT.

False.

This is actually a thing I’ve done on multiple occasions, and multiple occasions it has caught scum.

It’s actually the way I caught on of my closest on-site buddies years back.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m millennial af, I’m the literal definition of avocado toast. who getting called the boomer

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In the game of mafia though you’re a boomer.

I have like one of the most unorthodox mafia play styles in the history of mafia

These are weird discrediting attempts

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Discredit discredit discredit, Jogey bear.

It establishes a voice to not allow players to gain momentum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m super modest.

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I have major self deprecating humor, and have an equally playfully arrogant/I’m trash dual personality. I always talk everyone else up around me too.

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And I’m an extreeeeme leftist, and love teaching newbies mafia.

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While I pour my smoothies in mason jars and go rock climbing 3-4 days a week.

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You’re creating a false narrative to better your positioning against me

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I’ve also done more than the majority of players in this game, and have been a focus even when I’m not playing, so that’s another false narrative you’re pushing, which is the exact point of pushing a surface level lurker play.

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I’m also the 3rd highest poster, even before this little spat of posts

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If anything. Scum has more motivation to call everything negative about them Discrediting. Look at president scum. Anyone say anything about him and they are wrong or fake news. You prevent people from being able to come after you.

Sure, but that’s cuz I’m town. Scum can’t come after me without being ready to take me on.

As scum, i have other people set the game state up where I can’t be come after.

You seem upset because you’re scum who doesn’t think they can push me.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m super modest.

This is actually a thing I’ve done on multiple occasions, and multiple occasions it has caught scum.

Doesn’t sound like it to me

Then check yo hearing.

[Flavor Leaf]

You’re creating a false narrative to better your positioning against me

Yeah that will never happen. People will scum read me even more cause I dare challenge you. I’ve already got one foot out the door. I don’t care about my position in this game. I don’t ever want anyone to wonder what I’m thinking. I don’t hold my cards close to my chest. I’m all in

If you’re town, scum are worried about me coming after them as soon as they vote you, though

You gotta look past the surface level. Catch actual scum, rather than scummy town

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You’ve done absolutely nothing.

Oh ho, how untrue this is.

My effect on this game is invisible to the untrained eye, but I say, nay, I speak it: the effect is there, I promise you.

You can see this post game when the scum PT gets posted and there’s likely talk about me in there

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I’m also the 3rd highest poster, even before this little spat of posts

Yet you’ve done no scum hunting. Congrats for being a spam poster n

I’ve done town hunting.

People need to move past the “scum hunting scum hunting scum hunting” mindset.

If anyone ever thinks I’m not actively trying to win my games and figure out the solve to games, that’s absolutely crazy

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Then check yo hearing.

Bragging isn’t being modest. Sorry you can keep spewing that lie but I know the truth.

I’m allowed to say my accomplishments, and allow players to know what I’m capable of for transparency reasons. Just because you don’t know me, and people tend to like me, doesn’t mean it’s bragging.

I’ve been playing on this site going on 6 years now. I’m incredibly active at teaching how to play Mafia, and you can see that when people talk about my work with Newbies and the site in general.

Just because someone’s been rock climbing for 10 years, and can get V10’s like butter doesn’t mean they’re a better person than someone who’s been doing it a year, and is struggling with V5’s.

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who bullies his way

See, this is just incorrect. I’m one of the most actively friendly and inclusive players around. That’s something I push for.

Just because you are annoyed by me “getting away with doing nothing” apparently when that’s clearly not the case. I have been commenting, I have been posting when the game slows down.

I don’t have too many strong reads right now, and I’m figuring them out.

There’s more to playing mafia than what you are pushing.

You can go ahead and push your hate. Whatever it is you’re going through in real life, I hope it gets better soon.

[Flavor Leaf]

I believe the only time in 2019 I got aggro at all was in a town game of mine, and I think it was against Joges.

[Flavor Leaf]

And I’m always here for people to bounce thoughts at me, and reading the political gamestate.

[Flavor Leaf]

You can go ahead and push your hate. Whatever it is you’re going through in real life, I hope it gets better soon.

This is uncalled for and I’m reporting you. No need to make things personal.

I was just being genuine and reaching out whole heartedly towards you in a caring way, I won’t bring it up on a personal level again.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am a troll, but just because I’m sassy and like to have fun when I’m games whilst simultaneously trying to make them great plays.

But I was being genuinely sweet and calm with all my posts, if that wasn’t coming across.

I felt like it was, but I feel like Wimpy has a completely fantasized version of who I am as a person or player, and it is what it is.

[Flavor Leaf]

You can go ahead and push your hate. Whatever it is you’re going through in real life, I hope it gets better soon.

This is uncalled for and I’m reporting you. No need to make things personal.

I was just being genuine and reaching out whole heartedly towards you in a caring way, I won’t bring it up on a personal level again.

No. You crossed a line. Just cause I don’t like you bragging in this game doesn’t mean I have issues in real life.

You’re a disgusting human being for even implying such a thing.

Oh, you’re Rb, aren’t you?

[Flavor Leaf]

Anytime someone comes at me with unwarranted hate, instead of fighting back and going aggro, I don’t know where the other person is coming from.

I lashed out at Joges in a game in 2019 around the time my grandma was passing away, and I apologize to you now for that, Joges. It’s okay to have things going on. I won’t bring it up again. It was never meant in a bad way.

[Flavor Leaf]

Rb, you just gotta let go of whatever grudge you’ve had for way too long now. Like I get it, but I’ll dig the hole, just drop the hatchet it.

[Flavor Leaf]

The only other person I’ve had continuous issues with besides RC, which is for the most part past, and Robb, so I guess I could see that as well.

But either way, I’m always here on a personal level. I can always just drop things, for the most part. When I start to get irritated, people will know. I make a lot of one liners and stop trying to explain everything.

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor will hopefully be gone. If not he should be lynched ASAP. It’s clear he wants to fight anyone who says anything negative about him and that is detrimental to the game.

I’ve actively not fought with you.

I will discuss with anyone who wants me gone. Yes, that’s literally what you’re supposed to do as town, get people to town read you, and explain where scum is coming from. I don’t know anyone else besides me who is 100% town, I’m going to discuss with that.

You can say all the negative stuff about me, i don’t mind. You just have to be ready for me to clap back.

[Flavor Leaf]

The fact you think this has something to do with outside influences just shows you’re either scum or completely out of touch. This has nothing to do with anything outside of 2114.

Alright then, move on from it then. We’re a page past that now.

This is completely NAI by you, and I half feel like you’re using this as a way to get town read.

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I’ve actively not fought with you.

Yes you have. Taking the game outside of the game proves it. Personally insulting me and now trying to accuse me of coming after you for non game reasons just proves it.

That wasn’t me fighting.

That was you getting mad because you didn’t think it was personal before that, but it’s 100% always personal playing against me, because I play a lot on personality and the sociological aspect.

I was being genuine, not fighting. I was being calm and explaining myself towards you. You are the one fighting, and if you wanna fight, fight. Go for it, I can throw hands if you want, I don’t mind it.

But this leaf will bring the tea.

[Flavor Leaf]

@ Wimpy
If you think he broke the rule then report it to the Mod. They will deal with it. Please let us end this pointless argument, Please take a break and come back when you have calmed down

I would fight it hard if anything were to come of it. This is not aggro me whatsoever, and you can tell it came from a place of sincerity.

[Flavor Leaf]

I still think Wimpy’s scum. Me pushing him for what he perceives as “the wrong reasons” is definitely the type of thing to set him off.

Earlier this year, I pushed ScumKuribo for the wrong reasons, and he ended up getting so mad, he replaced out.

Man, I really push a certain type of player the wrong way

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, I figured. It’s fine.

So what now.

I think he’s extremely likely to be scum, which means Looker is my 2nd town read.

[Flavor Leaf]

I honestly think Wimpy might be frustrated town but with everything that has happened I can not think straight

He does this as scum. Like, I have no doubt in my mind that he’s actually upset, but if he’s Rb or Robbvna, either of the 2, I think the latter moreso than the former now, then it’s almost more scum indicative than town indicative for me. He doesn’t have to say if he is or not, and even if he says he’s not, i wouldn’t necessarily believe him, as Rb has done that before, if I’m not misremembering.

@Joges - I believe this actually happened in that one game we played in together, with Rb, and he replaced out after a very similar argument with me, and was scum. I was scum reading him correctly at the time too, but then the replace out made me town read it.

But like, aggro players get aggro as scum, if not more aggro as scum, especially if caught out for the wrong reasons, which in general, most of Day 1 stuff on scum will be for wrong reasons. Town get pushed for wrong reasons all the time.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oooooo, Ank replaced into my scum read. This should be fun.

I’ll be here tomorrow.

[Flavor Leaf]

Your slot was an alt if either Rb or Robb.

[Flavor Leaf]

Drinks on me

[Flavor Leaf]

theFuzzyLogic and FlavorLeaf are town

wacky

Scummy

[Flavor Leaf]

Drinks on me

I’m a little confused as to the intention of this post.

Don’t overthink it

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@Gjt: do you think omnon also overreacted in her exchange with Looker, or is justified there?

I feel Omnon is very defensive and seems to react easily. I have seen this a lot in the past from a frustrated Townie especially when turned out the had a power role and if Town it does get frustrating throughout the game when all you do is tell the truth but are accused of lying from both Town and Scum.

However I am sticking with my gut on this one and believe her to be Scum

I have all the reasons to believe someone is town because how they're reacting to the game is townie and I've seen it a lot before but because I am stubborn and can't be assed to give other reads so I'll still vote them die scum

???

@TheFuzzylogic99/Flavor Leaf:

What's the likelihood of Gjt and nomnomnom being scum together? Gjt avoided my request for reads on Salamence20 and Joges in Post 488.

I could see it, but i wouldn’t like bet my life on it yet. I’ll keep an eye out for this, I hadn’t gotten the link you seem to have there.

[Flavor Leaf]

Ank, who am I sheeping?

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Why no answer rather than the question of you being asked?

Bear in mind, I thought your predecessor was scum.

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Why is it out of left field?
Maybe that’s just where I’ve been lurking around while you all play baseball, a dying sport.

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I think it’s a fair question to ask of the player who replaced the slot I was pushing

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Drinks on me.

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Oh, I don’t plan on explaining to you the context prior to your answer. That’s essentially the entire point of asking you.

[Flavor Leaf]

and yes the fact that you're scumreading my slot makes it even more ??? to me

Why? I’m a giant reactionary player, and I both A) create gamestate wide reactions, and B) elicit reactions from specific players.

I’m helpful to the core engine of a game to progress, even whilst barely attending.

[Flavor Leaf]

Let’s kill Nomnom.

VOTE: Nomnom

I smell an “Invisible” scent on them, if y’all catch my cupcakes.

[Flavor Leaf]

Bout what

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Oh.

Nah, not really. Still waiting for Ank.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Nicholai - where we going?

[Flavor Leaf]

Gjt’s town. Obv mislynch is obv. He’s a compromise wagon because deadline

[Flavor Leaf]

Scum is on that wagon

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Scum doesn’t gain anything from bussing a partner here, and by no means should that ever go through if he is actually scum in that case.

People are voting him because they don’t know who to vote. We don’t have a lot of info in the game yet, so it shows that the Gjt lynch is something that scum are 100% okay with happening.

He’s not scum.

I can’t recall a single on of their posts. This is entirely based on the sociological gamestate

[Flavor Leaf]

what's happening

This could be scum.

With Nomnom/Invisibility.

[Flavor Leaf]

On the fence with Ankamius.

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My invisibility scum read relies on NomnomScum, which I’m about 90% sure of. Positioning, general stance on the game.

I feel they have a grasp on more of the game than they are letting off.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also town read Looker for reasons I believe I stated, and the Nomnom wagon not gaining steam after the 2 of us there in place of Gjt is something.

If Nomnom were town, scum sheep Looker and I, as we’re able to push stuff easier than others, and then we take the blame if it was a mislynch.

Nomnom is not a mislynch.

[Flavor Leaf]

Rex is also bleeding town to me now. His questioning of Gjt is town indicative because if Gjt were scum with him, that post would directly link the 2, and i don’t believe white knighting Gjt, especially passively like that, is the go to scum move in that position.

Kanna drops down a bit, however. Manipulative, I feel. Dark side, could be.

[Flavor Leaf]

Shall I WIFOM a bit?

Hey, scum, I’m a strong PR. Kill me, I dare you.

[Flavor Leaf]

Okay, Non can be town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Looker
Nicholai
Fuzzy
Rex

Non
Joges
Bob
Gjt

Invisibility
Kanna
Ankamius

Nomnom

My way too early prediction is actually Nomnom/Ankamius/Kanna, with Kanna being able to be replaced with one my Tier 3’s or Invisibility.

Ankamius is chainsawing me and avoiding questions, and I actually think I can bring her down a tier in between Nom and the others.

Wimpy was scum.

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I can already tell this is going to be one of those games where I'm going to incorrectly scumread someone and incorrectly townread someone for the same reason

this really feels like one of those games

A setup for explaining why they’re gonna be on mislynches.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

this is always the funniest answer to any situation

A chainsaw because I pushed Nomnom, and was obviously suspecting the slot because of me feeling Wimpy was scum, which I still do.

[Flavor Leaf]

Go check the normal queue thread. Wimpy /out’s and the next post is Rabid /in, that’s Robbvna, the slot I ended up believing Wimpy was after I realized it wasn’t Rb.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

this is always the funniest answer to any situation

A chainsaw because I pushed Nomnom, and was obviously suspecting the slot because of me feeling Wimpy was scum, which I still do.

They also gave themselves an easy out to push it as a lull vote, but you can tell she feels pressured with the rest of the conversation we had. That kind of went under the radar because of, you guessed it, Nomnom came in and distracted.

[Flavor Leaf]

See, Gjt is town. He’s even softing PR.

Lynch in Nomnom/Ankamius

[Flavor Leaf]

But as it stands the vote activity just feels lwo with these wagons the only ones reaching 4 votes

SausasaurusRex (4): Invisibility, kanna, Non lmh, Ankamius
gtj (5)- joges, nick, nom, inv, kanna

These are both town wagons with a likely 2 on each, but the 2 are different.

You wanna know what fits that perfectly?

Nom Nom and one invis/Kanna and then Ankamius and one of Invis/Kanna.

Good work, Bob.

Let’s lynch Nomnom.

[Flavor Leaf]

rabid said he was Pesivul btw, Leafy.

Hmm...that’s odd then. Persivul fits the aggro mode personality, but I thought Persi and I got along.

Regardless, slot’s still scum.

I’m actually more familiar with Persi’s scum game than Rabid’s.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Gtj - can you throw a Nomnom vote down? If you think Nich and her are scum together, might as well call him on his bluff with his vote on her.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Bob - I do believe one of Kanna/Invisib to be scum, yes. Idk if both makes sense right now, but I think both make sense as a Nomnom partner.

[Flavor Leaf]

Now, my friends, my enemies, my yet to be acquainted, my comrades of the town of Mini Normal 2114, I ask of you, nay, I beg of you, to bring this amalgamation onto the head of which is to be eating like an Attack on some large, behemoth of a creature, or a Titan if you will, and band together with me as we execute the scummy Nomnomnom. I know I have yet to gain your complete trust, but allow me to lead this town into the dragon’s pit. I will slice the head off myself, I will die for you, and if luck y’all may have it, I would even

live

for you.

Put aside these petty differences, and let’s make today, January 18th of the year two thousand and twenty, a day you shan’t forget!

Execute Nomnomnom.

[Flavor Leaf]

umm, no.....

even if you are town I do not trust your reads. I have no idea what you are which makes me trust you even less

Bring this down a tier.

If you’d rather push the soft claimed PR rather than likely scum, this is 100% a distraction rn for the sake of distracting

[Flavor Leaf]

We have a little over 1 day. Come on

[Flavor Leaf]

2 scum on GJT, 1 on the person pushing the scum the most.

[Flavor Leaf]

nomnomnom (4): gjt, looker, flavor leaf, nicholai

This is an obvious all town wagon...sure, you can take me out of the equation here in that sense, but if I were scum here, I’d have scum partners to join this wagon. And also, Gjt sifted PR. Unless GJT and I are scum together, it makes zero sense for me to not let him get lynched.

Lynch.

Nomnomnom.

[Flavor Leaf]

Bob, Non, Joges, we need you to vote Nomnom or we’re gonna no lynch

[Flavor Leaf]

As much as I like the backing it's also making have a little concern over FL. Seem too defensive in my favour which is also getting me to question my vote and wondering if we've got 2 town wagons.

Going through some ISOs and I missed something before @ankamius do you back Wimpys claim?

You can meta me, I do this a lot to townies.

I’ve accidentally claimed Masons with scum when I’m town.

I’ve done it a few times protecting my scum buddy, but every time I do that, it backfires.

[Flavor Leaf]

Worry about that later, Gjt. Nomnom flipping red should change that feeling for you

[Flavor Leaf]

Maybe Nom is that roleblocker

[Flavor Leaf]

Oo...what a good power play if you are scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I wonder how FL would react if my vote went on Invis right now

I was already assuming you were setting up distancing from your partner before I pushed you tbh

One of invisib/Kanna is likely scum

[Flavor Leaf]

nah, i just lost a scum game that way in a newbie game, not gonna do that in a normal game, but it is a good theory, I’ll give it that’s

Kanna is scummier for saying that, nicholai townier

[Flavor Leaf]

Why do you call everyone who suspects you scummy?

I’ve been calling you scummy, yo

[Flavor Leaf]

Looker
Nicholai
Fuzzy
Rex

Non
Joges
Bob
Gjt

Invisibility
Kanna
Ankamius

Nomnom

My way too early prediction is actually Nomnom/Ankamius/Kanna, with Kanna being able to be replaced with one my Tier 3’s or Invisibility.

Ankamius is chainsawing me and avoiding questions, and I actually think I can bring her down a tier in between Nom and the others.

Wimpy was scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I meant to say Tier 2’s in that post, not Tier 3’s

[Flavor Leaf]

No, your slot is

[Flavor Leaf]

And just because I think you’re scum doesn’t necessarily mean I think you’re scum

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve only replaced out of like 3 games in the past 2 and a half years, and they happened at the same time when I went to LA for a week and a half last year.

[Flavor Leaf]

Please just lynch that slot

[Flavor Leaf]

Also

UNVOTE

for now

Will be back in a few hours when on next break

Dude...we have no time.

I’m willing to lynch this if we need to now. This was a rough move.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh, we got a deadline extension.

Fine.

I don’t think that was necessary, and I’d have been upset with that if I were scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, Gjt is pretty townie.

I just got annoyed with the unvote before I saw the deadline extension.

[Flavor Leaf]

Unfortunate. You’re the 4th slot in that slot. The og slot claimed scum. Sometimes it just be like that.

[Flavor Leaf]

Lynch Mislynch. Scum got the extension because they had a replacement, and Nomnom noped out because it wasn’t her scum game to lose.

[Flavor Leaf]

One of Kanna/Invisibility is bussing.

Ank is still a likely partner. If I’m wrong on Ank, it’s probably Fuzzy.

[Flavor Leaf]

This catch up thus far has been all IioA.

It’s all just gonna be fluff.

Like, it’s a scum slot.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why do you need a valid reason to vote your counter wagon as town going down...? That’s literally a scum perspective comment

[Flavor Leaf]

I have zero recollection of playing with ‘Mislynch Bait’

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m millennial af, I’m the literal definition of avocado toast. who getting called the boomer

[Flavor Leaf]

25 year old actor/writer who lives in SF, spends money on Uber eats, have my green smoothies in a mason jar, and smokes a lot of weed. I’m a Boomer’s nightmare.

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean, if you wanna take a look at me, I’m in the face with a name thread :shrug:

[Flavor Leaf]

Imma have that dignified feel when I’m 40, bet

[Flavor Leaf]

You just hatin

[Flavor Leaf]

Scum trait

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Thefuzzylogic

[Flavor Leaf]

Time to full claim, Gjt.

[Flavor Leaf]

@GJT- Do not full claim..... Just Dont!

I have a result.

Full claim.

[Flavor Leaf]

Nicholai died in place of GJT and myself for a reason.

[Flavor Leaf]

do not like

town

full claiming unless they have to

This is where you are misreading

[Flavor Leaf]

but will take a stab in the dark that Scum have a roleblocker. My guess is that will be used on me so I can't back myself up next day phase that way they can take out another one of us during the night and push for me next day phase.

This really hit me, and then Nomnom flipped JOAT with roleblocker.

Also, the unvote dance they did was scummy IMO, and they softed to save themself, and it avalanched onto Nomnom.

The Nomnom vote on Invisibility and the Ankamius vote on Kanna stand out for me, as does Fuzzy.

I believe all the scum to be in the people I mentioned in this post.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am confused.

If you think/know cgt is scum why not vote him ?

Waiting for his claim.

Wanna see how he gets coached to respond.

[Flavor Leaf]

I actually think it’s more likely there are 2 scum on Nomnom. 100% at least 1, but possibly 2.

[Flavor Leaf]

Honestly, fuck it. I can solve this game today.

Let’s mass claim.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am confused.

If you think/know cgt is scum why not vote him ?

Waiting for his claim.

Wanna see how he gets coached to respond.

I maybe new to the site, but I'm not new to Mafia. I have no coach even if I was Scum

Then you’d be refusing to play as a team as scum?

Thing is, this is a scum slip. I’ll wait to see who points out why it is in a bit.

Not this post actually, the other post they made

[Flavor Leaf]

@GJT - you’re essentially saying you’re a tracker then, right? And that you targeted Nicholai and received he targeted you?

[Flavor Leaf]

do not like

town

full claiming unless they have to

This is where you are misreading

Yoooooo, you aren't suspicious about Fuzzy (i mean i know you're voting but you haven't mentioned this little tidbit) that they just spoke in a definite?

Oh, I’m very serious about my vote on Fuzzy.

[Flavor Leaf]

SausasaurusRex, invisibility, kanna, gjt, looker

At least one of these are scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Quit playing the self proclaimed messiah card, day just started

[Flavor Leaf]

I caught Nomnom scum yesterday.

Not Sally, not Mislynch. I read that slot due to Nomnom’s play, I count it as Nom’s lynch not MB’s.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am going to laugh when you realized I am town

Why?

You’re like my #5 scum read right now anyways, why you acting like you’re gonna die right now?

[Flavor Leaf]

Depends on your type of result. I know from my abilty I was targeted by Nicholai last night, unfortunately I can't have him back that up. We have 13 days of this phase remaining there is no need to full claim, I've dropped a hint take it as you wish. I've been left to set up a mislynch, if your town don't fall for it

This is a scum slip from being newer to the site.

There are only a select amount of roles that can be in normal games, and none of them have this capability besides tracking Nicholai.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Gjt

He also did the unvote dance at the end of the day yesterday.



Invisibility, Kanna, Ankamius - tier 1 final scum
Fuzzy, Looker, Joges - tier 2 final scum
Rex - Tier 3

[Flavor Leaf]

I was thinking you had been scum reading Sal as well. TBF I did not read your ISO as I doubt you are scum so your interaction would not be helpful and reading Sal/Nom/MB would be


Ok... bc it seems like you are pretty sure I am scum . You are voting for me and pushing for my lunch
I am very very confused

I don’t think I pushed for your lynch at all

[Flavor Leaf]

I literally have a result on you.

Claim your damn role.

You are either conf scum or conf town based on your answer

[Flavor Leaf]

I will claim after your claim because if I claim before you claim you know what to claim

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, you realize I essentially single handedly caught Nomnom, a Scum JOAT, and I am on record and proof a player who actively doesn’t hard bus without strong reason.

Your entire POV, along with the Nich kill is completely a scum agenda pushed by no one here besides you.

[Flavor Leaf]

Solid.

VOTE: Invisibility

Let’s play.

[Flavor Leaf]

For obvious reasons, if Gjt is around late end game, lynch there, but not worth it right now. More than likely town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Invisibility and Kanna were both pushing for Gjt until there was no longer a chance of Nomnom getting out.

Nomnom’s role was pretty strong, so it makes sense for scum to protect them. Nomnom pushing Invisibility seems like a distancing tactic.

Invisibility was already a wagon option prior to everything that went down, Gjt picked up, and then nomnom did. Invisibility-Nomnom felt like they were distancing but trying to have Gjt be lynched over either of them, but Invisibility has to bus or be forced to look suspicious.

If Ankamius is scum with Nomnom, the Kanna vote was really strong because it potentially could have gotten me to move there. Ankamius on Kanna and Nomnom on Invisibility. Kanna and Invisibility’s hop on Nomnom was poor, and one of them are scum.

Kanna had extremely scummy posts right before the end of the day, and I’ll point them out a bit later when I feel like doing more quote work.

However, I feel Invisibility has more scum equity than Kanna right now. That being said, one of them flipping scum, does not clear the other, as I think there’s a chance they’re both just scum, which means Ankamius was town correct in pushing Kanna, which I can very much see as well.

I think Invisibility is the best choice for the lynch today.

[Flavor Leaf]

I will claim after your claim because if I claim before you claim you know what to claim

^^^^^

Right.

I didn’t have a result on you.

[Flavor Leaf]

Not a mechanical result anyways.

I had a sociological result on you, so I was telling the truth.

It was necessary to see if you were scum who got lucky and unlucky Day 1.

I think you’re just town.

But why weren’t you killed?

Simple, you were pushing Ankamius, Myself, and Nicholai as possible scum, and scum probably didn’t see you as that big a threat.

The Nicholai kill also put you back in the running for potential scum.

Nicholai I feel was also the most universal town read player in the game, and I feel scum easily could have thought a protective role would be on either you or myself last night, so they wanted to avoid killing us.

Alternatively, I could be hitting the money this game, and my solve is close to correct, which I believe it to be, and the Nomnom fliphelped reassure that. Killing me would make it seem like I was right and could put scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'd say it's more likely to be in the follow up votes so Invis/Nicholai would be my guess although joges' post history isn't brilliant either.

This is likely to have scum thrown in here by name.

[Flavor Leaf]

If we hit scum today, Gjt starts being able to clear people every night a kill goes through.

I don’t see myself lynching anyone but Invisibility this day phase.

[Flavor Leaf]

Spoiler:

@nomnomnom:

You have no reads on anyone and are voting Invis because he's lolrandom. Is this correct? Also, apart from calling him a dumbass, you don't lean either town or scum on Gjt?

@Gjt: do you think omnon also overreacted in her exchange with Looker, or is justified there?

I feel Omnon is very defensive and seems to react easily. I have seen this a lot in the past from a frustrated Townie especially when turned out the had a power role and if Town it does get frustrating throughout the game when all you do is tell the truth but are accused of lying from both Town and Scum.

However I am sticking with my gut on this one and believe her to be Scum

I have all the reasons to believe someone is town because how they're reacting to the game is townie and I've seen it a lot before but because I am stubborn and can't be assed to give other reads so I'll still vote them die scum

???

@TheFuzzylogic99/Flavor Leaf:

What's the likelihood of Gjt and nomnomnom being scum together? Gjt avoided my request for reads on Salamence20 and Joges in Post 488.

VOTE: nomnomnom

Also

UNVOTE

for now

Will be back in a few hours when on next break

VOTE: Gjt When you come back, bring a read for TheFuzzyLogic99

Spoiler:

gjt (5)

: joges, mislynch bait, kanna, ankamius, looker

Mislynch Bait (4)

: flavor leaf, nicholai, SausasaurusRex, invisibility

invisibility (1)

: non imh

non imh (1)

: bob3141

not voting (2) : thefuzzylogic, gjt

With 13 alive, it takes seven to Lynch.

@TheFuzzyLogic99

: What about joges? What's your read on him?

VOTE: Mislynch Bait

I'm having reservations about joges. Also need to look more into Nicholai. TheFuzzyLogic99 could be trying to preserve his VCA.

Spoiler:

Mislynch Bait (7)

: flavor leaf, nicholai, SausasaurusRex, invisibility, kanna, gjt, looker

gjt (2)

: joges, ankamius

invisibility (1)

: non imh

non imh (1)

: bob3141

nicholai (1)

: mislynch bait

not voting (1) : thefuzzylogic

With 13 alive, it takes seven to Lynch.

Quoting this line of trajectory because it’s kind of off to me, but idk if it’s scum.

It could be. I expect me to be wrong at least on one scum somewhere, and it’ll be someone who’s trying to be on my good side, and this would fit the bill.

@Gjt - I say if we hit scum today, track this slot.

[Flavor Leaf]

Ankamius is a solid scum pick right now, I feel, but I don’t think she’s my top scum read. It just seems too easy to me if Ank is scum, and they were probably freaking out Day 1.

I’m down to case her more, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

oh I missed FL calling me scum

ok lemme know when something interesting happens

What, you were like my #4 what you talking about.

Your GJT’s scum reads.

[Flavor Leaf]

FL's posting today isn't as town as it looks

Fuzzy idk, probably town

I’m not trying to look town, I am town, and I’ll have people see it from me catching scum. My Nomnom push does not come from ScumMe, and I feel ScumYou has to push that it could have come from me.

Your vote on me yesterday was incredibly poor, as was the timing of your Kanna push, and your complete dismissal of my question towards you.

@Ankamius - what is the scum motivation for me from actively defending Gjt, which was likely going to be yesterday’s lynch, to hard pushing Nomnom, the Scum JOAT?

[Flavor Leaf]

To be honest it hasn't been very Towny since end of D1. I knew they were lying about a result on me and to me seemed like they were baiting me to give info which I opted to to find out what I needed.

Kinda go by the policy Lynch all Liars

I don’t lie, i just don’t always tell the truth.