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[Kanna]

VOTE: Fuzzylogic but you self voted

[Kanna]

VOTE: Kanna

You seem to not like fuzzy logic. Is it the fact that he is fuzzy or that he is logical. Or do you not liek the two combined

...yes.

[Kanna]

@Fuzzy; why do you call yourself the town potato?

[Kanna]

but

Kanna has a knack for doing it from my experience.

i don't mind getting wagoned, might generate some useful discussion

Oh really now? Who are you - I’ve only played 3 games on this site omg

[Kanna]

Sorry, just woke up and catching up

[Kanna]

Ok so overall I’m very flattered, thanks guys

[Kanna]

I've not played a game with any of you before, but I don't see point over thinking previous games, yeah everyone has traits, but if you look for them you'll miss other things, plus some people use those traits to their advantage and plant them especially if they are Scum

I think it’s alright. It gives you an insight into how they play/what type of player they are so you know what’s strange. In my first game (completed) we managed to catch scum D1

[Kanna]

I want to say being suspicious of me is kind of townie, but I don’t really like the other things Nico has been posting so

[Kanna]

no I’ll just stick with fuzzy for now

[Kanna]

Wait Nicholai, are you who I think you are rn??????

[Kanna]

@Nicho; ok it wasn't the first person I thought of but I do think I know now. Interesting :>

[Kanna]

I think people think im maf because I called fuzzy town lol

Why did you call fuzzy town?

[Kanna]

joges' read sure is weird though, people come up with the craziest ideas of how scum are doing crazy strats like "making town not care about the game to lull them to depression with negative insight." when in reality scum are just trying to appear not scummy 95% of the time

This feels misreppy.. Like you want to distance yourself from my read by saying something I already said when I made the vote. Like you just wanted to make sure the same words were in your ISO.

Didn't really get this though.

[Kanna]

Actually, I TR Nicho; he’s the only one I’m following rn

[Kanna]

In my mind your all Scum Lean until done something to otherwise change my mind. Its Mafia trust no one

is there anyone you're starting to let into your heart thus far, or nah?

Not yet, little inklings, but nothing big yet. We will all sound scummy D1 it's all about offense and defense and reactions from them.

What do you think of the gamestate? Anything you wanna point out?

[Kanna]

I want to say being suspicious of me is kind of townie, but I don’t really like the other things Nico has been posting so

Actually, I TR Nicho; he’s the only one I’m following rn

what changed your mind?

You gave me obvscum vibes at first, but after knowing your main and thinking back, I kinda changed my mind. + I liked #182.

[Kanna]

UNVOTE: Checked fuzzy’s meta and think I was too quick to judge

[Kanna]

I will purely be judging everyone on their actions on this game because I'm too lazy nor have the time to go check up on the history of everyone. Maybe its something I can pick up after a few more games here.

I will probably be playing in a way which you won't like and will observe a lot more before posting as a lot of what I see is basing current posts from previous games.

From what I've seen if Nicolai is Town probably won't last long because from experience Scum tend to hate active Townies. Chances are we will mislynch D1 unless someone seriously slips which is why scum often stay quiet D1 (not helping myself there) they'll spread their votes across Town. Not sure how many you usually get on a team here, but one I expect to vote/push one of their team mates. A lot of this phase is keeping track of the votes and who people chop and change too.

I don't have any strong leads yet, maybe a couple now leaning a little towards Town, but as said previously in my mind you are all Scum until you have convinced me otherwise

It’s up to you, but I would recommend skimming through one or two past games for someone you’re gonna seriously vote cause it makes a big difference. For example, I thought fuzzy’s earlier posts were off tonally(?) + the self vote felt weird but meta tells me it isn’t off for him. It doesn’t mean he’s not scum but it does mean those things aren’t scum indicative for him if that makes sense

[Kanna]

Mislynch day 1 is actually preferable

i've heard that's true because associatives are king, but i doubt lynching scum day 1 has a lower win rate than lynching scum day 2

or does it?

what? Can’t you only find associatives if you lynch scum though?

[Kanna]

Non being normal kinda concerns me actually.

Don’t think this lynch conversation is going anywhere though; we should still try and find scum

[Kanna]

Nvm, I think that conversation did end

[Kanna]

^where did he say that? And what?

[Kanna]

He just said hed perfer to mislynch D1.

Wheres the town motivation. Hmm? HMMM?

Yeah that’s misrep VOTE: Salamence20

[Kanna]

Throwing this out there top.3 Scum for me right now
Nicolai
Bob
Flavor Leaf

Can I ask why?

[Kanna]

I think Nicholai is town now, so UNVOTE:
Pisskop’s 261 doesn’t contribute to the discussion in any way, as does Invisibility’s 281.
However, I’m really not liking what Winpy’s saying, so VOTE: Wimpy.

I mean, those aren’t their only posts that don’t contribute to discussion, but why is what Wimpy said worse + what don’t you like that Wimpy has said?

[Kanna]

I'll be normal when I can make time for it. just want to have fun, and solve past games rn.
I'm still a newb, so I'm milking the status for all it's worth. 5 complete games, that's the goal rn, leave me be.

fair enough and you know what, i respect that. take all the time you need, Noni, and when you're ready just let me know and i'll be there first thing in the morning with some steaming hot waffles with marshmallows and toblerone spread which we can enjoy together

stop showing favourites

[Kanna]

Honestly Im shocked more people arent looking at Invis for scum

Do you think he’s scummy? Also there’s too many lurkers/people who are playing similarly to him rn

[Kanna]

salsa and dino are both jumping on something that i don't think is scummy.

it's just discussion about how mislynching day 1 is sometimes preferable, it doesn't mean Wimpo is scum admitting he is looking to mislynch today, i thought that was pretty clear.

Actually, my point about misrep was more this^ i.e I thought Sala was taking words out of context when Wimpy was talking about theory, but yeah, the "worried about mislynching" was weird too (less so probably)

[Kanna]

also rex basically copies joge's statement about nicholai. it's weird they both just do 180s

i actually think Dino is a little scummier than Salsa because it was a sheep after it'd already been addressed why Salsa's vote was bad, but i'm cutting him more slack for reasons

really mindmelding with these posts

[Kanna]

VOTE: SausasaurusRex think most signs are pointing to you :/

[Kanna]

^tentative agree. Would like to see more of Rex

pedit: @post #375

[Kanna]

The amount of people not contributing is sort of proving sal’s statement correct

What do you mean?

[Kanna]

Got it now; ignore me.

[Kanna]

Actually no, I don't understand

[Kanna]

Anyway feeling preeeeeetty good about Nicho being town due to mindmeld. Lol at the reactions to his Wimpy defense but imo it was fine + the reactions were also showing townie paranoia which I liked.

[Kanna]

Everyone lurks.

This site is dying

VOTE: Salamence

Seems a good way to make town not care about the game is to lull them to depression with negative insight.

Honestly, this is a stretch, but nothing else has stood out.

Concerning the self vote, it's RVS. And no amount of making it anything more than that will make it more than that.

Which makes this vote kind of bad

. Joges is either scum or town proving sal correct.

Can you explain this Wimpy? Also yes. jojes is town or scum.

[Kanna]

Ngl, I think shade based on someone logging on but not posting is a little petty.

do hope people become more active though; rn it feels like we're in the lobby before gamestart.

[Kanna]

Haven't properly read Rex's post but will do so soon.

[Kanna]

(Catching up)

dON'T BOTHER

WELL I GUESS HE'S LEADING UP TO SOMETHING SO YOU CAN

OK INVISIBILITY

Anyways I read it and I still don’t feel too good about Rex.

Getting the feeling he’s trying to seem like he’s offering ideas after being accused of not having any, more than he actually has them. Like his recap reminds me that almost nothing actually of value has happened so far

Also his thoughts on Nicho are unclear. I think it boils down to him saying he just changed his mind, but I still don’t know exactly how.

[Kanna]

VOTE: FlavourLeaf

I will take the bait. Bring it.

This is town.

Joges is probably scum for his vote on me after taking time to sink it in like that.

VOTE: Joges

Let’s kill this and go to day 2 peepies.

[Kanna]

Ok slight tinfoil, but @Flavour, what do you think about Rex and Sala?

[Kanna]

Also knives out is so good please watch @everyone :>

[Kanna]

You don’t think either one is more scummy than the people you’ve been voting?

[Kanna]

I'm a girl, but VOTE: Wimpy.

You've had the most interaction, and, even if you're town...

Mislynch day 1 is actually preferable

Here we go again

[Kanna]

Still think that’s a bad reason but maybe it’s common to take it that way?^

[Kanna]

You don’t think either one is more scummy than the people you’ve been voting?

Naw, it’s day 1.

Townies be scummy af

??? By that standard, who should we lynch then?

[Kanna]

Also slight misunderstanding (probably), but I was talking about people voting for Wimpy for talking about theory. That’s just very NAI (imo)

[Kanna]

You called?

Anyways my opinion is I think Wimpy’s being genuine rn. I can also understand the frustration because this initial reasoning of voting him because of the mislynch thing is baaaad + I’m not sure I understand these latest jumps on him either.

[Kanna]

Wimpo, that seems like a massive overreaction? why did you claim when there's basically no pressure on you? and have you not noticed people like Kanna and i defending you? i mean come on, bro

By my count 4 idiots voting me cause I prefer to mislynch day 1 and others willing to. This game requires the ability to work together and based on their stupidity and the others lurking, I’ve decided I’m in a battle I don’t care to fight.

I’ve been bullied out of two games and force replaced for reporting somebody who broke site rules. My desire to fight is gone. I’m not replacing out anymore either. So I’ll park my vote on scum and just stop caring anymore. Nobody else seems to so I’ll join them.

How is your woe is me attitude any smarter than the people you're calling stupid? I think your definition of "working with one another" is "everyone agree with me" because you seem very abrasive.

Bad post imo. Where are you seeing abrasiveness? Also why is that your first reaction as opposed to him being genuinely upset?

[Kanna]

You don’t think either one is more scummy than the people you’ve been voting?

Naw, it’s day 1.

Townies be scummy af

??? By that standard, who should we lynch then?

Also I do kinda want an answer to this; I want to know what your standards are

[Kanna]

Oh that’s kinda true. But still, I think the initial push on him was stupid too. Do you think the push was justified?/Do you think there’s no reason for him to be frustrated? Also again why is that your first reaction vs him being genuine?

[Kanna]

Oh that’s kinda true. But still, I think the initial push on him was stupid too. Do you think the push was justified?/Do you think there’s no reason for him to be frustrated? Also again why is that your first reaction vs him being genuine?

On D1 everyone is frustrated to some degree. We are forced to sit here until a time limit, or until we can come to some consensus on who to lynch, with absolutely no information. Being frustrated is being town, this is not a secret. So when people are frustrated, it's null to me.

Like what?

So you're saying he's perfectly justified to be frustrated even without the bad push? + frustration is townie but it's also null? (doesn't make sense btw)

Then why did you criticise him on it? Also you still didn't answer my question

[Kanna]

@jojes; It's misrep.

salsa and dino are both jumping on something that i don't think is scummy.

it's just discussion about how mislynching day 1 is sometimes preferable, it doesn't mean Wimpo is scum admitting he is looking to mislynch today, i thought that was pretty clear.

Actually, my point about misrep was more this^ i.e I thought Sala was taking words out of context when Wimpy was talking about theory, but yeah, the "worried about mislynching" was weird too (less so probably)

And I did call Looker out on it as evident in the post you quoted?

[Kanna]

tbf though, I'm wondering if I was wrong about it being a scummy push because a lot of people have been bringing it up that way so maybe it's a misunderstanding. It's still a bad push though and with how much you guys are targeting Wimpy, he's probably town.

[Kanna]

I like Wimpy.
Wimpy thinks it's joges or Rex.
I think it's Invisibility or Rex.
Kanna voted Rex.
Kanna is smarter then me so
VOTE: Rex
I is smrt
~kbye~

So you town read Kanna?

Non just likes me :>

[Kanna]

what was Noni like as town in your other game together? similar here?

Pretty similar, yeah. I’m gut reading him as town until further notice.

[Kanna]

tbf though, I'm wondering if I was wrong about it being a scummy push because a lot of people have been bringing it up that way so maybe it's a misunderstanding. It's still a bad push though and with how much you guys are targeting Wimpy, he's probably town.

How do you feel about the inverse of Nicholai being universally town read?

I think a universal TR is a mild +town but it doesn’t matter anyway; I’m TRing Nicho for other reasons.

[Kanna]

You need to read slower. Because I said that town are naturally frustrated at this game, and since that is common knowledge it's something I don't use to determine who is what alignment. Because since it's common knowledge, what keeps all scum from just acting frustrated? That's why it is null to me.

Smh, you’re nitpicking and ignoring the original point. Why did you call him out on his frustration? It seemed like you didn’t feel it was warranted

[Kanna]

Gonna go and read Rex’s town game soon as well. Also getting mild scum vibes from bob and gjt and they’re v much slipping under the radar.

[Kanna]

what was Noni like as town in your other game together? similar here?

Pretty similar, yeah. I’m gut reading him as town until further notice.

What would you want from him to improve your read on him. As athough you say that you gut read him he realy hasnt produced enough content to read him either way. What would you want to see from him to confirm if you gut read on him is right and waht would you like to ask him

I just want to see more of his posts. From my experience, he’s a lot more ~carefree~ as town and so far, I’m getting that impression. And lol at asking non questions

[Kanna]

Fuzzy is a nice person :>

[Kanna]

Hi replacements!

This game is kinda dead

[Kanna]

I’ll be back later

[Kanna]

I skimmed through Rex's town game and I think he's more townier/his logic is clearer there so maybe still scumlean but thanks Invisibility now I feel bad

[Kanna]

VOTE: Invis

why do you think he is scum?

Ypu said earlier that it was him or rex. But why do you think it his one of those two.


and yet again you ignor anyones questions

Non's been in like, all of the games I've ever played and he doesn't answer questions 85% of the time so good luck?

[Kanna]

Agree Gjt's vote was bad but jojes vote was opportunistic uhhh

[Kanna]

Ahh sorry it's Joges and I'm p sure I've been spelling it wrong this whole game. In my head, I'm pronouncing it, but Joges and Jojes sound the same

[Kanna]

Jorge
ok but you cant judge guilt of someone else by what you would do or not do. This is fuzzy logic and only i can have fuzzy logic

What I do as town, and how I act as town, and what I expect of town is exactly what I should, and you should (and everyone else should), base their reads off of. ESPECIALLY D1. I mean, what else am I supposed to go off of?

But not everyone is...you? People can have different thought processes and that still be valid

Pedit: I’ll try and remember Joges from now on :>

[Kanna]

Agree Gjt's vote was bad but jojes vote was opportunistic uhhh

Which vote?

This one. Kinda ties into what I said earlier; I personally don’t agree with Gjt vote/logic at all but it could still be a genuine thought process. The fact you’re voting him cause he looked bad was kinda opportunistic

I would've thought you would have already checked their ISO when you took over. It's not a stupid question, but then if your Scum you wouldn't need to I guess as you would know who is Town and can just call it your own reads

Here's a theory. This is a scum point of view. Why would a town player need to read what their replacement has done? I would think scum replacing in would want to see what kind of BS the previous player in their slot has posted or thought. People lying will care what their spot has said, people not lying will just start from their entrance and go.

Gjt asking this makes me think they have a scum point of view as I feel only scum would want to read the previous player said.

VOTE: Gjt

[Kanna]

Rex please come back soon, I’ll even unvote you :c

[Kanna]

Do you TR ankamius like you TR wimpy?

i townread the slot, slight town pings from Ank calling omnom town in the way she did it but otherwise nothing on her

lmao nomnomnom is town

nice

i know it's slightly contradictory to read this post as town and then question it, but i'm TRing it's tone(?) rather than the read itself. why did you call omnom town after her interaction with gjt? can her frustration not come from scum?

Nom tends to struggle keeping her tone and thought processes consistent with each other as scum

She's already showing consistency

I’m just gonna pull the newb card and say I’m not sure what you mean; can I have an example?

[Kanna]

btw how important is it that I read the entire thread

just the little I've seen indicates there's minimal anything I can get from it

I actually think it’s not that necessary. You can probably go back and read if things from back there come up

[Kanna]

VOTE: Gjt for now

his reaction to looker questioning his real life commitments: i think he'd be a little more outraged as town. his scumhunting on omnom recently and his retort to kanna reads as fake to me

No Nicho; we were supposed to be psychic masoning :c

But what about his scumhunting on nomnom and reply to me seems fake?

[Kanna]

Agree Gjt's vote was bad but jojes vote was opportunistic uhhh

Which vote?

This one. Kinda ties into what I said earlier; I personally don’t agree with Gjt vote/logic at all but it could still be a genuine thought process. The fact you’re voting him cause he looked bad was kinda opportunistic

I would've thought you would have already checked their ISO when you took over. It's not a stupid question, but then if your Scum you wouldn't need to I guess as you would know who is Town and can just call it your own reads

Here's a theory. This is a scum point of view. Why would a town player need to read what their replacement has done? I would think scum replacing in would want to see what kind of BS the previous player in their slot has posted or thought. People lying will care what their spot has said, people not lying will just start from their entrance and go.

Gjt asking this makes me think they have a scum point of view as I feel only scum would want to read the previous player said.

VOTE: Gjt

I don't see how starting a wagon on someone is opportunistic. Being the second vote, or putting someone on L1, is more of where I would check my "Is this opportunistic?" meter. I don't see how explaining my theory/reasoning behind my action can be deemed as opportunistic. I really feel like you're trying to say "scum hunting is opportunistic"...

You know I’m not saying “scumhunting is opportunistic”. What I’m saying is at that moment, Gjt looked kinda bad and nomnomnom could potentially be open to voting him so you jumped in first.

[Kanna]

Also thank you Ank

[Kanna]

I’m not totally convinced but will keep an eye out for that

[Kanna]

Jorge
ok but you cant judge guilt of someone else by what you would do or not do. This is fuzzy logic and only i can have fuzzy logic

What I do as town, and how I act as town, and what I expect of town is exactly what I should, and you should (and everyone else should), base their reads off of. ESPECIALLY D1. I mean, what else am I supposed to go off of?

But not everyone is...you? People can have different thought processes and that still be valid

Pedit: I’ll try and remember Joges from now on :>

So how would you describe your own thought process.

I do find it bad to approach every player with cookie cutter mindset. You need to know there own thought process so you can tell if there actions match a town mind set. As each player will be different

My thought process is like, trying to see if someone’s thought process is genuine (I’m not good but oh well) and yea exactly

[Kanna]

@joges; if I upset you, I’m sorry? There’s no reason to be like that though

[Kanna]

I had a reread of some of the stuff between me and Joges and think maybe I was a bit critical? Joges looks better on iso read and I’m sorry if you got the feeling I was tunneling in on you I guess :/ I still think Non is town on gut but his participation is low even for him I think and I’m a little concerned.

[Kanna]

<Rex, bob, looker, gjt, nomnomnom, non imh>

scum should be in here, maybe?

[Kanna]

Sigh I just lost a town game

[Kanna]

Is that a poe or scum list

More POE

[Kanna]

My apologies for the number of posts. I had intended to put it in a single post, but, due to me using a mobile, I could not get the formatting to work. I believe I covered the important bits, but if anyone thinks I missed something, please tell me and I will rectify it.

Currently, I don’t believe anyone is scummy enough for a vote.

Does this mean you have no scumreads at all or? What about the stuff you pointed out - was there no conclusion?

[Kanna]

There's also only 3 days left; what is everyone thinking?

[Kanna]

@Gjt: do you think omnon also overreacted in her exchange with Looker, or is justified there?

I feel Omnon is very defensive and seems to react easily. I have seen this a lot in the past from a frustrated Townie especially when turned out the had a power role and if Town it does get frustrating throughout the game when all you do is tell the truth but are accused of lying from both Town and Scum.

However I am sticking with my gut on this one and believe her to be Scum

I have all the reasons to believe someone is town because how they're reacting to the game is townie and I've seen it a lot before but because I am stubborn and can't be assed to give other reads so I'll still vote them die scum

???

@TheFuzzylogic99/Flavor Leaf:

What's the likelihood of Gjt and nomnomnom being scum together? Gjt avoided my request for reads on Salamence20 and Joges in Post 488.

I actually missed that post and I apologise wasn't ignoring it and dunno why I missed, must have been whilst I was Skimming. I take it there is no way of getting notifications on this site if tagged or quoted? Only use mobile whether that makes a difference.

Anyways, I didn't really have much of an opinion on Joges. Nothing originally stood out and I was focusing on others. Just done a quick ISO and only just seen their post for voting me. I'm not ruling them out as Town or Scum, but currently not my highest priority. Some of their posts really don't sit well especially mention of just waiting and hammering. This could all well be just a frustrated post and not be an obvious thing they'd do and by saying it it looks very Scummy and supposedly meant to give off the opposite affect, because Scum would not wanna draw attention to thenselves by making comments like that, but again this can also be a Scum tactic to try and get people to just over look it.

I'm not 100% convinced by anyone currently and as I said before whether I have a strong feeling or not everyone is Scum until I believe otherwise maybe I just have trust issues

Missed this earlier but this post confuses me. Can you rephrase/elaborate?

Also why are you so unsure here when you seemed super sure about nomnomnom?

[Kanna]

Rex, if you had to vote someone, who would it be?

Kanna, I watched that happen earlier. i hope the norwegian chap doesn't take too many shots of that vodka. who are you thinking of lynching? i've got one primary suspect i'll make my case on tomorrow

I think it's Razor you should look out for :c

As for lynching, maybe Rex/Gjt/Bob to POE further? + very much looking forward to your case tomorrow

[Kanna]

VOTE: Gjt

I just meta'd Gjt too and I'm p sure he apologizes for inactivity as both town and scum. He does explain himself more as scum though

[Kanna]

actually, idk I can maybe see his thought process being genuine? UNVOTE: for now

[Kanna]

^Rex, there’s one day left

VOTE: Gjt

[Kanna]

My reasons for voting Nom have always been the same your assuming it's because of the ISO, but at no point have I said that's my reason and was just curious as to why, I did not like the reaction which is why I voted.

@Nicho; does this change your opinion at all?

[Kanna]

But this is probably a good lynch; I don’t know if I can trust this slot in the long run + explaininess is more similar to their scumgame

[Kanna]

Willing to vote nomnom tomorrow since it looks like we aren't going Gjt

@Rex, is nomnomnom your top scumread then?

[Kanna]

Tbh, I am kinda skeptical of Gjt's PR soft; it seems p convenient and I didn't like how he covered his bases earlier with the "I might not die tonight and there might be a roleblocker"

[Kanna]

hmmmm, maybe we don't lynch Gjt after that soft...

this would absolutely suck if Leafy is scum and coaching Gtj in their PT

but that's unlikely lol. i'm okay with a nomo lynch though, it did ping me how she's been giving reasons for why Gtj could be scum, like in 863, and then making 941

VOTE: Nomo

Also this isn't a bad theory actually

[Kanna]

Why do you call everyone who suspects you scummy?

[Kanna]

Sorry, I've been really busy today. Some stuff here wasn't nice to come back to though.

VOTE: nomnomnom I agree with going here to be safe. If Gjt lives tomorrow, we can just keep an eye on him

[Kanna]

Btw; a votecount including my vote

Spoiler:

gjt (4): joges, mislynch bait, ankamius, looker,

Mislynch Bait (5): flavor leaf, nicholai, SausasaurusRex, invisibility, kanna,

[Kanna]

@Gjt; what exactly are you hoping to hear from the replacement?

[Kanna]

No complaints with flavour taking lead; yesterday’s events + I read sala and nomnom’s iso during the night and I think they tmi’d flavour as town.

@anyone let me know if you need anything from me and if you end up wanting to lynch me, that’s fine too. I still think town can win.

[Kanna]

(:

Just to be clear though, I’m not gamethrowing if that’s what anyone thought. I’ll answer bob and give reads/thoughts based on yesterday soon. If there’s anything I’m kinda ok at it’s associative hunting so

P.S - i miss nicho too

[Kanna]

kanna you never answered my question on why you were so happy to lynch a potential pr claim yesterday. You only voted nom after you pushed for gjt lynch even after gtj claimed pr. When lynching pr claim on day one is never good for town as there is so much risk of actualy lynching a town pr.

What persuaded you in last day that nom was scum. Did you vote for him simply because you saw you couldnt get gjt and her lynch was the only alternative to your prefered lynch of gjt the claimed town pr. Or did the position of gjt and nom change. After a majority of players said they were not interested in risking lynching a pr claiment that day.


What do you now think of gjt full claim.

And how did you nom read progressed as at time you were still saying get gjt and that nom should be lycnhed tommorrow.

I wasn’t “so happy to lynch to lynch a PR claim yesterday”. And I know, that’s why I switched to nomnomnom. I did hesitate for a moment cause Gjt was guessing roleblocker, which imo, looked like he was covering his bases if he should live tomorrow, but that was it.

Wrt to the wagons; I honestly wasn’t confident on either and for me, it was about which one was a bit more likely than the other rather than I was fully convinced of any. Thinking back, nomnom flipping scum did make sense; I thought sala was kinda scummy.

Also I have no reason to believe Gjt isn’t town after that claim.

[Kanna]

I’ll do other stuff tomorrow sorry.

[Kanna]

Reads based on Sala/nomnom interactions

Flavor Leaf

; is town. These posts here look more like tmi/appeasement rather than to TR a partner:

Spoiler:

Salamence20
what do you think of some of the actions and reactions so far?

Youre town.
Wimpy is in this game

Boon is town forever and ever because im never going to read the fucker correctly.

Nicholai still screams “try-hard” at this time.
I was bad at reading pisskop back in the day, so null for now.

Skimmed the thread heavily.

First read gave me the impression FL is town.

Wimpy reads frustrated town.

I don't know why but that early wagon on Salamance stood out for me for some reason. joges' vote really sucked but what I found more awful is Nicholai and Invisibility joining in so I think there's scum in that trio?

I'd say it's more likely to be in the follow up votes so Invis/Nicholai would be my guess although joges' post history isn't brilliant either.

invis are you always this lolrandom or

Nom can you explain your reasoning behind your reads

FL's just playing his usual town game.

Wimpy reads genuine frustrated town because I've rarely seen scum out a VT claim like that unless they're gambitting and the replacing out sounds town too to me. Think the other 3 are clear tho

Furthermore, he did push nomnomnom really hard yesterday when he probably could have derailed it when he wanted to. Nomnomnom/FL interactions don't make them look aligned.

Spoiler:

Let’s kill Nomnom.

VOTE: Nomnom

I smell an “Invisible” scent on them, if y’all catch my cupcakes.

Hi FL wanna talk?

Bout what

Your vote would be a good start? Or your reads in general?

Oh.

Nah, not really. Still waiting for Ank.

Invisibility

; is a townlean. Through Sala/nomnom's iso, it's worth noting they both tried to push Invis for sheeping a vote on them (and now we know they're scum, it's not that bad anyway). Don't think this interaction comes from partners.

Spoiler:

Everyone lurks.

This site is dying

VOTE: Salamence

Seems a good way to make town not care about the game is to lull them to depression with negative insight.

Honestly, this is a stretch, but nothing else has stood out.

Concerning the self vote, it's RVS. And no amount of making it anything more than that will make it more than that.

awsum
VOTE: salamance

This is probscum.

This is probscum.

Why?

Cause his little sheep vote was dumb.

Honestly this wagon on me is dumb but I think its good for educational purposes. Carry on.

Honestly Im shocked more people arent looking at Invis for scum

Ank how do you feel about wagoning invis with me

Ankamius

; Wimpy's slot was town imo + Sala also tried to push there for bad reasons. Can elaborate on this if anyone wants me to.

Spoiler:

Mislynch day 1 is actually preferable

no

Yes

VOTE: Wimpy

For worrying about mislynching

This is also probably true.

Spoiler:

Nom can you explain your reasoning behind your reads

FL's just playing his usual town game.

Wimpy reads genuine frustrated town because I've rarely seen scum out a VT claim like that unless they're gambitting and the replacing out sounds town too to me.

Think the other 3 are clear tho

SausasaurusRex

; scumlean. Wasn't really mentioned by Sala/nomnom but did sheep Sala on a Wimpy vote for bad reasoning (this is the same topic as before). Am also really curious about this vote + general thoughts at deadline.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Nomnomnom

I'll post the rest later + quote. I also very strongly think scum pushed Nicho, who we know is confirmed town now, near the start of the day.

[Kanna]

@bob’s #1426; I switched late because like I said, I wasn’t sure if Gjt was bluffing or not. I came to the decision later that it wasn’t worth the risk. There really isn’t an exact why on why I chose to do exactly what I did, I just flip-flopped because ??? at the time.

As for pushing elsewhere, I really wasn’t going to do that because I’ve learnt that flashwagoning/starting another wagon at deadline is bad (I’ve tried that before lol). It was down to those two no matter what. Plus, they already claimed and I think the less people claim, the better.

For Sala/nomnomnom, I thought Sala was scummy for his Wimpy vote mostly. I disregarded it later cause a lot of people also voted for the same reason but in hindsight, it was probably scummy since the slot did actually flip scum. Nomnom wasn’t that scummy imo which made the slot better and was probably why I hesitated over Gjt/nomnom so much. As for MB, I’d already made my decision then so their slot didn’t really do anything for me.

I’ve answered a lot so can I ask: what do you think of my answers + why did you ask the second question?

[Kanna]

Also I looked through the rest of the people and didn't find as much as I thought I would.

I thought the interactions between nomnomnom/looker were a bit weird/uncalled for though. Also really curious about this vote @Looker:

Spoiler:

Also

UNVOTE

for now

Will be back in a few hours when on next break

VOTE: Gjt When you come back, bring a read for TheFuzzyLogic99

Spoiler:

gjt (5)

: joges, mislynch bait, kanna, ankamius, looker

Mislynch Bait (4)

: flavor leaf, nicholai, SausasaurusRex, invisibility

invisibility (1)

: non imh

non imh (1)

: bob3141

not voting (2) : thefuzzylogic, gjt

With 13 alive, it takes seven to Lynch.

[Kanna]

My guess for the scumteam is probably <Rex, Looker> VOTE: Looker

[Kanna]

Just telling me I’m wrong really doesn’t change my mind that the interactions (general tone) were weird? But anyway, I’m asking you about is your Gjt vote. Do you not realise that vote was quite pivotal at the time? I’m curious what your thought process was behind it.

And I did read, but ok. How about you tell me where I’m misunderstanding/getting things wrong.

[Kanna]

@Looker; It *was* pivotal though because it shifted the leading wagon from Nomnomnom to Gjt. Also I checked and you weren’t asking Gjt anything (not that you should have been voting him if you wanted him to answer at a time like that anyway) so why did you do it?

@bob; can you answer me please?

[Kanna]

Hi sorry, prod received; will catch up soon!

[Kanna]

Ok I’m caught up and I’m glad people are finally looking at Rex. Still don’t think Ank is scum because Wimpy was pretty town. Invisibility probably not because I don’t think Sala/nomnom would both push for him based on little reason. I still kind of buy Gjt’s PR claim

@people who are TRing Looker; why?

P.S; hi pikachu!

[Kanna]

@people who are TRing Looker; why?

I personally feel the exchanges between Looker and Nom was way too off to be 2 Scum. I feel if they were both Scum that exchange would have happened in The Scum PT. I maybe wrong. Also that aside I just haven't picked up a Scum Vibe on Looker

Ok I still disagree. I actually think their interactions could be SvS.

[Kanna]

I'll wait for Rex to respond but I actually think he might be scum.

[Kanna]

@nomnomnom/Ankamius: Does anything jump out at you from a readthrough of SausasaurusRex?

honestly not really, should anything jump at me?

This is the only thing that nomnomnom said about Rex and it doesn't make me feel so good.

[Kanna]

I'll wait for Rex to respond but I actually think he might be scum.

Sorry, which post is it you want me to respond to?

I want to know what you were gonna say here:

Expect a post from me when I wake up in the morning.

Expect a larger post later. For now, I think ankamius v FL is TvT.

Prod dodge, I will post in the morning.

Also explain your naked nomnomnom vote and thought process during deadline.

[Kanna]

I'll join I'll join VOTE: SausasaurusRex

[Kanna]

@Kanna

I just glanced at your other games, and I'm really curious why I'm getting a very different vibe from your posting this game compared to all three of the others.

Really? What sort of vibe do I give off here vs anywhere else?

[Kanna]

Also why are people towncoring Rex???

[Kanna]

@Kanna

I just glanced at your other games, and I'm really curious why I'm getting a very different vibe from your posting this game compared to all three of the others.

Really? What sort of vibe do I give off here vs anywhere else?

a lot less like you're trying to solve the game.

I disagree (esp for D1), but I might be biased.

[Kanna]

Eh the truth is I'm really not feeling this game/understanding it. Sorry guys.