Micro 914: CultD3 (Over)

[Bingle]

VOTE: Dr Drew

[Bingle]

I’m a jingle alt designed solely to keep my active ego and bookmark threads more readable.

And to please fakegod.

Dr. Drew is always cult leader, more votes please.

[Bingle]

Not_Cult Leader probably wants to instant hammer L-1 towns, right?

Actually.

@Bingle

why did *you* not came up with that? I mean, you have a reputation of a player who is heavily focused on mechanics.

Cause it's wrong and I don't often engage in setup spec about what the mafia should do unprompted? If you want me to weigh in on what cult should do, ask again when it's not exactly the wrong thing for me to weigh in on. Or recruit me and I'll let you know in the cult PT.

VOTE: Hectic

srs business.

[Bingle]

You're being super LAMIST-y.

[Bingle]

/inb4 modkill.

[Bingle]

Bingle, what's your updated opinion on shos and poyzin?

I choose not to think about them.

Not Korina, why are you not complaining about not being scum?

[Bingle]

Somebody please talk some sense into me because this is definitely unreasonable... right?

Wifom

[Bingle]

I think it’s vaguely for the best if UTs claim D1. If we have a UT massclaim our EV shoots way up and there’s nothing scum can do to stop it. OTOH, if scum claims UT they will be found by any other or claim and both cultists have to claim.

[Bingle]

Not UT

[Bingle]

What I say is that clearly cult will not CC, and are far more likely to fakeclaim VT when they dakeclaim, so this just helps scum.
Worst case scenario is even supremely worse, where there is no UT and scum know this and THEY claim UT thus "conftowning" themselves until PRs die in the game when the setup becomes clearer.

I agree that cult will clearly not CC UT. However, the 2/6 chance for an unsuccessful recruit of a UT does not outweigh the 2/9 chance for scum autowin if they hit the sole town PR. Further, an unsuccessful recruit actually doesn't help us much, since we don't know it happened until late game. Town almost certainly loses unless we hit cult leader early.

[Bingle]

Therefore, we mass claim not UT on DAY 2 to prevent that, rather than day 1.

In column 3 rows 1 and 2 there is only one PR. If the sole PR is recruited, then cult can literally have that PR and the CL claim UT and town autoloses if they trust it. Therefore, any UT claim after D1 without specifically a roleblocker flip is untrustworthy.

[Bingle]

Additionally, we should probably hypoclaim JK targets at daystart.

[Bingle]

Not Korina, why are you not complaining about not being scum?

Still want that answer.

[Bingle]

Moved Hectic, Bingle and Shos up for what looked like genuine setup spec. Setup spec by itself usually comes from town, debating on which is the best strategy is almost always TvT. I still like kanna the most.

Gross.

[Bingle]

exactly! This massclaim is stupid. We should all, including UT, claim non-UT, and restart this massclaim D2 (or D3, depends on status)

The massclaim is completely pointless D2.

It's either now or never.

The sole question is whether the utility of hitting UT for cult is higher than the risk of autoloss as well as whether the functional ICs are more valuable than the potential for skipping a recruit.

I think either case is a strong enough reason to out the UT's D1 if they exist.

2 BP IC's is very strong. Not enough to outweigh the ridiculously scumsided setup, but certainly enough to justify them claiming D1.

Cult missing a recruit isn't really a big deal to them. They win the long game anyway. And let's be clear here: If we don't lynch cult today, tomorrow is LYLO.

[Bingle]

The power of the UT is to prevent cult from recruiting for a night because the cult doesn't know they're unrecruitable. By claiming this early on "I'm not UT" you're painting a target on your back for cult. Cult knows you're not UT, therefore you're cultable.

LMAO. Which one of us made a balanced cult setup again?

[Bingle]

Lul, Kanna's been a UTR in every game I've played in.

Have you played with Kanna scum?

[Bingle]

No lynch is townlean, everyone else is lynchable.

[Bingle]

Actually, gamestate says Farkran is probably town as well.

VOTE: shos

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By the way, i'd like to learn how do you analyze the gamestate and why does your analysis point to shos specifically.

No.

I'm not going to talk about what I'm looking at to decide if we should lynch someone right now.

[Bingle]

Yes. I am good in doing townreads, so I just do townreads and then lynch scum via POE.

That doesn't work at all in cult games, JSYK.

[Bingle]

Is it against side rules to claim that you an alt of different player?

Only if you do so to a member of staff acting in an official capacity.

[Bingle]

I want Bingle dead because of the last time this was played.

The time I replaced in as last cult and coasted hard into victory? Alright, I guess. I'm not sure why you'd be mad about me winning a cult game when you were the mod, but you do you.

I assumed you wanted me dead because you were an Unrecruitable Townie in Cultist Recruiter.

[Bingle]

Also, I thought about it, and it's actually better for UTs to claim on second thought. At this point, it's irrelevant, but, I do agree with UTs claiming D1. My knee-jerk reaction is that it's bad though.

[Bingle]

Hey Korina, vote shos with me for a bit?

I promise to talk to you more about no lynch afterwards.

[Bingle]

I think no lynch is town (or at least not CL) because he clearly doesn't give a shit what people think about him. It's the same reason Hectic is probably cult. He cares too much what people think of him, or at least that's what his behavior looks like to me. I will acknowledge that I am a decent paranoia lynch, but that that makes me a better lynch later game when I'm likely to have been recruited, not least because I have enough strategic prowess that even assuming I'll be lynched on D2 I'd still be a solid addition to a cult team.

[Bingle]

Best way to be recruited is to catch scum.

[Bingle]

So let me get this straight No Lynch: I'm scum for RVSing you, forgetting I haven't changed my vote and re-voting you because I believe you're scum? That makes perfect sense!
Die.

My vote isn't changing.

Why does CL act this blatantly scummy?

Similarly Hectic wants to be tr-d but doesn't come across as wanting to be tr-d.

I could see you or me (or maybe shos) playing twtbaw as CL to subvert expectations, but if nl is scum I feel it's very likely they're just a cultist, and so I'm not interested in that. Also, I think the only notable resistance to that lynch is mine and I'm not cult, so...

Again, why not shos?

Also, I'm a guy, not a girl. Please use the proper pronouns, ty.

Aren't the proper pronouns Doggo?

I agree that Korina is probably town or at least not CL. He doesn't act this antagonistically towards me if he's scum I don't think.

[Bingle]

Yes. I am good in doing townreads, so I just do townreads and then lynch scum via POE.

That doesn't work at all in cult games, JSYK.

It should work on starting cultist and cult leader.
I have a different method which may be able to detect recruited.

Nope. Cult is actively looking to townbloc at the moment. That's the point of cult. Find the most towny people you can and work well with them.

Townblocking DOESN'T work in cult games, at all, which is like 70% of the reason cult games are so horrifically hard to win as town.

[Bingle]

Ebwop

If we have col A or C and row 3, then basically we just have to Lynch the leader and town can't lose?

7/9 setups are autowin from CL D1 lynch, yeah. Ever setup in A/B and C3.

That’s why I can’t be fucked to look for cultist, just cL

[Bingle]

@all: why not shos?

@shos: what’s with the abundance of fake ass townslips?

[Bingle]

I've done a couple in the last couple of years.

A rerun of the 8 year old newbie and one where communication roles were the conceit pop to mind, but yeah, that's kinda one of the fakeass townslips.

[Bingle]

Eh, sorry, I got caught up in designing setups.

Anyways, and reason for the easily provable lie?

[Bingle]

Any reason not and reason. Stupid phone.

[Bingle]

@Bingle i did not understand your post

Shos has been scum in two recently completed games:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81377
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81331

One of which I modded. Both featured daychat, and he expressed no surprise over this in either. There is no similar towngame where he expresses the belief that daychat is new or unique.

Daychat became the standard for Newbies sometime in late 2014 iirc. While it was (and still should be) considered a powerful tool for scum, it was by no means uncommon. Shos's argument that he was unaware of daychat being regular rings hollow, especially in the light of the fact that in the time frame of 6 months prior to his expressed date of absence through today I can remember two or three games that didn't have day chat total (Coincidentally, all games I modded).

His lie is both provable and easily proven, and further I expect he knew that I would prove it, which begs the question of WHY he was lying in the first place. My instinct is that it points to him as CL because it came AFTER I discussed the CL not using a too wolfy to be a wolf strategy and in conjunction with: These posts come across as forced townslips.

Also, he's overly self conscious about how he's seen in posts like 320, he seems more interesting in discrediting reads than building his own like in 322, and he also lied in a pretty obvious manner in 328.

Plus, there's this weird silence when I try to get people to talk about him.

[Bingle]

Salamence20 has been prodded already. I haven't prodded him exactly on 48 hours mark, which causes a delay. Rules require me to wait at least 48 hours after user prod, not 96 hours after last user post. I can't look for replacement yet. I am deeply sorry for inconvenience.

It's cool. Go by the rules you set forth at the beginning of the game unless you have a really big reason to change things. Also, for future reference, your modding color is kinda hard to read on MafSilver despite being fine on Sepia and really sharp on Black and you might want to try 24 hours after a prod for a replace. Note: both of these are personal preference things and it's completely fine if you ignore the advice.

[Bingle]

BTW:

Subject: Micro 901 | Penguin Mafia, The Third | Mafia PT

AYE!

I've just lost a bastard game as town (we really had no chance) but Drew was there. I pulled a "L-1" fakevote at the beginning of the game. will do it again in hope that drew catches onto this

Shos is exactly the type of person who would fake a townslip as scum, and the lie in 328 is that Korina is playing to his town-in-a-cult-game meta when he rolled VT in the first game I linked and his play is VERY different there and here, which was already brought up and answered to my satisfaction in this thread.

[Bingle]

Now, before you go ahead and vote shos, I still want everyone to answer:

Why not shos?

I'm not ready to end the day by any means.

[Bingle]

i don't think he's CL

Why not?

[Bingle]

Also, how do you feel about my nl is twtbacl argument?

[Bingle]

@mod, may I request preemptive prods on Poyz, Kanna and Hectic as per your activity rules? Don't bother with notKori, I'm pretty sure he's V/LA weekends.

Hectic has been prodded. His prod will be official, if his doesn't return by (expired on 2020-01-21 01:06:00).

[Bingle]

Why not shos?

[Bingle]

Now you claim that I "knew you would prove my lie". Let's say I did. Why on Earth would I do that as scum?..and for the record, why on Earth would I think you will "prove" this? I don't know you.

Actually, we've played quite a few games together, iirc. My main is Jingle. If it helps, most of our completed games are actually from a long time ago when daychat actually was uncommon and encryptor was an OP role.

And yeah, that's kinda the point of asking why you would present such an obvious lie. I don't see how scum you expects to get away with it and I don't see what town you hopes to gain from it, so I'm interested in why you posted it in the first place.

Honestly, I'm kinda disappointed no one caught mine.

[Bingle]

Guess why Bingle asked everyone to claim UT/ not UT.

Nah, I'd rather lose than not play the game, even if Micc did kinda force me into it.

[Bingle]

Guess why Bingle asked everyone to claim UT/ not UT.

Nah, I'd rather lose than not play the game, even if Micc did kinda force me into it.

What do you mean by this?

I signed up for a different game and micc misread it as an in to this one.

I'm totes fine playing this one and he gave me the opportunity to /out, but technically speaking I never /inned for this game.

[Bingle]

VOTE: Bingle

Spicy. Tell me more?

[Bingle]

Both featured daychat, and he expressed no surprise over this in either.

This is a lie, and I'm disappointed that none of you caught it considering I linked literally the post before him doing so in the next post.

[Bingle]

Bungle says I am lying because I didn't express surprise at being given daytalk. Rather stupid IMO and a non-defensible argument which townies don't often make

Not at all. I’m saying that I lied to make the case on you look stronger because I wanted to see how you and others would react. But apparently no one did the slightest bit of follow through to check my case.

[Bingle]

Subject: Micro 901 | Penguin Mafia, The Third | Mafia PT

Also it's awesome that we have daytalk. *warms engine*

^relevant post

[Bingle]

Kori, why bs? I don’t think he’s actually playing particularly jestery here.

[Bingle]

Oh right. VOTE: Poyzin

[Bingle]

I went to go find my reads from a Jingle's game, and D1, I was scumreading shos, who was town at that point. I'm willing to operate under the assumption for today that shos is actually town, and me scumreading him means he's town.

This is really bad reasoning. You need to look at the reasons you were scumreading him then and the reasons you're scumreading him now. Tell us what those are.

That’s a pretty misreppy snip, tbh. In context koris shos stance is one of the better ones.

[Bingle]

I agree that Obv/Blatant are both objectively good cop checks and objectively bad recruits/rolestop targets, FWIW. That first bit largely because of the second bit, tbh.

[Bingle]

Towncore:

Bingle
shos
Kori

Probs not CL because of the ease with which their wagons popped up:
Blatant
Farkran

Don't want to lynch on angleshooty replacing out of a cult game via lurking implies not cult reasons:
Obv

Poyz, Hectic, Kanna all seem like fine lynches. I'd compromise on any of the three, but atm I actually think I prefer Kanna. Sheeping me onto Shos feels like letting a high charisma player get a mislynch and the blame for said mislynch.

[Bingle]

How do you know shos is a mislynch?

I don't?

I think he is, which should be obvious from, you know, that post you quoted. His reaction to my case on him and retraction felt genuine and his reads feel natural, and I'm townreading him.

If he flipped scum, I would assume you were town because your behavior doesn't make sense as a bus, but between the two of you you S him T makes way more sense to me.

[Bingle]

I'm starting to get the impression Jangle could be chainsaw defending sh0s after distancing early on. Why'd you spend the first half of the day voting him and asking people "why sh0s?", Bengle?

I didn't ask anyone why shos. I asked "Why not shos", a lot, because if people couldn't justify not voting him but wouldn't vote him anyway that would be more CL indicative. My biggest reservation there IS that no one would answer that question, but that was universal, not individual.

I also notably wasn't voting him because I was running a gambit and didn't actually want him lynched before the gambit had run it's course.

[Bingle]

I'm going to assume everyone's posted since claims, but if you have a CC do so now.

We actively don't want to lynch the Rolecop at this point, because if we don't Kori is actually an IC. Poyz is leashed to Kori until he gets culted, which will be tonight because Kori can continue to get telling results until he's dead. Neither Kori or Poyz gets lynched before CL, ever. Poyz always gets lynched before Kori. If Poyz flips town, Kori is conftown. Kori only gets useful results tonight or the night immediately following a cultist flip, but he outs immediately if he gets a track result so that it can't be quashed if he gets recruited.

Rolecop is functionally vanilla cultist with both PRs outed, so don't worry about finding them.

Mechanically, scum is in

Farkran
ObviousScum
Blatant Scum
Hectic
Bingle
Kanna
Poyzin
shos

I'm fairly certain that BS and Fark aren't the CL. I'm townreading shos. I don't particularly want OS lynch. Defenses of Kanna don't strike me as natural and mostly seem to be coming from unconfirmed slots, so I'm most sure of that.

VOTE: Kanna

If this flips CL, Fark has huge partner equity. If it doesn't, I'd probably lynch Hectic next.

If you lynch me, you can take my analysis to the bank as conftown, so don't ignore this post after my death. We have 3 lynches (including todays) to hit specifically CL, or we lose.

[Bingle]

D3 we have to lynch Poyzin if we don't lynch any cultists at all.

This is dumb. Lynching not cult leader before cult leader doesn't actually save us any lynches, it just puts off the decision on who to lynch for a day with no additional information and hides who is likely to be cult.

[Bingle]

Also, as of tonight I will be WIFI only for a couple weeks, although that doesn't seem likely to effect this game.

[Bingle]

bingle what's your sense of 459? just trying to coast and hoping the "scum" players get lynched without kanna's support or pushing?

It's a pile on to shos based on my fabricated case. It's very much the reason I'm scumreading Kanna.

Shos is town because regardless of the accuracy of "If I were scum I'd have called you out on your lie" he seems to believe that it's true. His "Holy shit, that's an amazing gambit" post was crazy town.

[Bingle]

This is dumb.

I should clarify, this isn't dumb. It's an attempt to win with cult if cult is likely to win anyway.

You NEVER lynch Poyz before CL, because you know he's not a CL.

[Bingle]

I don't have the time to do the math and show the work for you atm, but a brief meta dive of me will reveal that I always setup spec as accurately as possible as either alignment and it's something I'm well known for. I waxed poetic on the why in the post game of mhsmith's Police Academy, a game town won because scum me forced the optimal strat and then got fucked by a combination of lurker partners, Ankamius and really bad variance despite being a universal townread for the majority of the game.

Anyone with a passing familiarity to me should be able to corroborate, including Hectic and Kori in this game.

[Bingle]

@Bingle why did *you* not came up with that? I mean, you have a reputation of a player who is heavily focused on mechanics.

Or, you know, this post in this game.

[Bingle]

I disagree that I ever attempted to leverage it into a townread. I was very upfront about the fact I would have made the same posts as scum, and in fact pointed out that Fark's attempt to townread me/shos based on setup spec was gross as hell.

[Bingle]

Out of curiosity, If shos is town, who is my theoretical partner?

[Bingle]

Spoiler:

It was two months ago, my first game onsite after the hiatus. You can be SURE that scum-me would throw it back in his face with a big I TOLD YOU SO if this was the case. But I'm not surprised that you don't let facts disturb you

I think any!shos would have forgot about his own specific reaction after two months, otherwise you would have answered from memory, not from checking your posts in that game. And if you forgot your reaction, you probably wouldn't check because you assume there's no reason for bingle to lie. This is valid for any!shos and more generally for everyone, i don't see a shos who checks if bingle lied about that - it's an easily verifiable lie, so i would think most people would just assume it's true, and work from there. Which, for instance, is exactly what you did - proceed to defend yourself instead of checking. But again, even town!shos would have done that.

Town shos DID answer from memory here. Which is why I didn't fish it up. Scum show would have checked it meticulously to find a single post where it may even remotely look as if I may be surprised and shove it up his butt all the way through the colon until it's out the mouth, pick it up and shove it back again.

Ill go even further and say that shosscum would have pushed a policy Lynch based on Lynch all liars there

I mean, this move was brilliant. Fucking amazing.

That was like
Scummy Worthy

Oh wow. Cool.
That's actually impressive.

Bingle just became town

Oh wow. Cool.
That's actually impressive.

Bingle just became town

I just want to say I am still deeply impressed

It was two months ago, my first game onsite after the hiatus. You can be SURE that scum-me would throw it back in his face with a big I TOLD YOU SO if this was the case. But I'm not surprised that you don't let facts disturb you

It was two months ago, my first game onsite after the hiatus. You can be SURE that scum-me would throw it back in his face with a big I TOLD YOU SO if this was the case. But I'm not surprised that you don't let facts disturb you

I think any!shos would have forgot about his own specific reaction after two months, otherwise you would have answered from memory, not from checking your posts in that game. And if you forgot your reaction, you probably wouldn't check because you assume there's no reason for bingle to lie. This is valid for any!shos and more generally for everyone, i don't see a shos who checks if bingle lied about that - it's an easily verifiable lie, so i would think most people would just assume it's true, and work from there. Which, for instance, is exactly what you did - proceed to defend yourself instead of checking. But again, even town!shos would have done that.

Town shos DID answer from memory here. Which is why I didn't fish it up. Scum show would have checked it meticulously to find a single post where it may even remotely look as if I may be surprised and shove it up his butt all the way through the colon until it's out the mouth, pick it up and shove it back again.

Because it surprised me and it's cool as fuck. I wouldn't have done it in years of gameplay.

7 posts in 6 hours. I could see one or two of these as being faked, but all of them?

[Bingle]

Pedit: eh... paranoia kicked in now, but i think we just lynch both rather than asking the question

If you lynch me never lynch shos.

[Bingle]

I flip town, and everything I've just said becomes known to be trustworthy.
I flip non CL, and everything I've just said becomes known to be trustworthy because I'll flip as cultist, not rolecop.
If I flipped CL you would disregard that post anyway and probably lynch shos, which would still probably be a mislynch because I'm much better at setting up false associatives than that.
If I flipped Rolecop, sure, shos would probably be the best lynch, followed by you and BLA in that order.

I'm arguing from solely that, because if you lynch me, you will know I was town today.

A casual gamestate read is enough to see I'm not a CL though.

[Bingle]

Holy shit I have stuff to say but I’m v busy rn; be here soon + please wait for me

We have time, although it's 1.10 am here so i'll probably read tomorrow.

UNVOTE: i want to hear bingle first but i still want to lynch him rn

We actually don't have time. It's 34 hours until deadline, at which point currently I am the lynch. That's pretty much the point of my assumptions that I get lynched here. If we had more time I'd demand the time to pin down my reads more before EoD.

[Bingle]

You say you would flip non-CL, non-Rolecop cultist, how is this possible without a counterclaim on korina and poyzin? Town PRs would be throwing if this was true

If I am recruited and flip on a later day as a cultist, it would be clear from my flip that I was recruited and my arguments today came from town me, which is obviously the point of that line.

[Bingle]

By the way, if you flip town it means your gambit was real, not that it was successful. Scum!shos has no reason to scumread town!jingle over anyone else

Yeah... Post 609. I've explained why shos is my strongest non mechtown read. At length.

Ngl i might be dense, being late irl might not help my cause, but i don't see why you would assume what you said and in particular i don't see why this would place you above kanna who is your highest scumread.

Why do you townread Kanna? Have you ever explained it, or is it just tone? Cause I see a lot of handwaivy reasons for townreading Kanna and no real substance to any of them. Which is exactly what I'd expect from cult trying to keep CL above the water.

Compare to me. Everyone who townreads me is quick to give exact reasons why, and they're always thought out, even your shitty "He was setup speccing" read. Even with that, every time it even looks like I might get lynched, people crawl out from the woodwork for reasons like "Maybe I townbinned him too early" and "I just really want to lynch Bingle".

Kori is at least honest about it (and wants to lynch me because he knows my setup spec means he doesn't win as cult at this point), but it should be VERY clear that in a situation where I am probably the de facto deadline lynch because we simply don't have time to pivot, I'm spending all of my time trying to solve the game for after I die. I'm tearing down literally all of the towncred Kanna has but doesn't deserve, and pointing out the weird behavior surrounding that slot. I get that you're probably scum with Kanna though, so there is that.

[Bingle]

As a self defense post, for a change, why does CL me stick my neck out for all of shos, nl, blatant, Fark and Obv? If one of them is cult leader under pressure, that makes some sense at least, but if none of them is CL because I am, why would I as the single role who is most incentivized to not have controversial reads make as many waves as possible? Why do I go after Kanna, who is probably the most universally townread slot if I'm trying to duck attention?

Why do I retract my case on shos when no one is going to call me out on it if shos is town and I'm scum of any color, when it would be insanely easy to just let it go through and point to shos saying that the case was solid if someone questions me about it later?

The assumption that I'm scum comes from the assumption that I'm simultaneously terrible at scum and masterfully manipulating the thread, which is all sorts of cogdis. And sure, you could say that I did this all as WIFOM to bring up this very point, but why would I when it would simply be easier to not do all of this and reach the same result?

[Bingle]

Oh, i only assumed that question on a flip today, not on a later day. I don't care about later day theories because previous flips will greatly influence my reads then

I mean... the question itself is disingenuous because the only thing that matters is my answer to what you should take away from my flip as town. Asking me what you should think if I flip scum is at best a dumb question and at worst busy work designed to look like you're doing something and paint me as scummy.

[Bingle]

It doesn't matter to me because I wanna lynch one of {shos, poyzin} today.

No.

[Bingle]

Ok, I’m just gonna be honest here; bullet points cause I’m tired.

>I think it’s Bingle/Farkran; Farkran is CL, Bingle is cultist
>Bingle’s “gambit” was probably to make a fake case and push whoever who bit, what he didn’t account for imo is he needed to have confidence shos is town BEFORE pulling the gambit and I’m not sure why he would be confident unless he was cult
>shos is scummy but if I’m right, Bingle tmi’d him as town
>Rn, bingle knows there’s a high chance he’s going down so he’s pushing Farkran
>notice how bingle tried to tie me to Farkran by saying if I flip scum, it’s Farkran? I’m not flipping scum so if you decide to lynch me, it’s supposed to look good for Farkran
>Farkran’s latest combos don’t make sense but I think the main takeaway is just to link me and bingle for if he flips scum (I think he will)

Furthermore, I do think I didn’t really deserve a TR early on in the game, mainly because I didn’t really do that much, so Farkran’s early TR on me felt weird, almost appeasement because I wasn’t TRing them. Farkran has been my secret SR all along.

Also now that we know Poyzin is town, that push on him by Farkran was bad imo; I still have no idea why he tunnelled him apart from inactivity and it seemed easy.

Bingle thinks shos’ reaction to the gambit was towny. Thus, Bingle knew shos was town.


Why the fuck aren’t we lynching this?

[Bingle]

Poyzin on kori, kori on shos, shos on neither of the above.

Massclaim results tomorrow. You should be able to work out the implications without me.

[Bingle]

353 I think. Mobile with no WiFi, so that’s all she wrote.

[Bingle]

Towncore:

Bingle
shos
Kori

Probs not CL because of the ease with which their wagons popped up:
Blatant
Farkran

Don't want to lynch on angleshooty replacing out of a cult game via lurking implies not cult reasons:
Obv

Poyz, Hectic, Kanna all seem like fine lynches. I'd compromise on any of the three, but atm I actually think I prefer Kanna. Sheeping me onto Shos feels like letting a high charisma player get a mislynch and the blame for said mislynch.

@Farkran: nice misrep.

[Bingle]

Hectic, I fucking wanted to lynch BS for most of D1, so I don’t know what you’re going on about.

I hate to say you told me so, so I won’t.

[Bingle]

But since you did lynch bingle, we were doomed.

Clearly this means I was the reason town won. I will accept all praise in the form of PayPal transactions.

[Bingle]

Also sorry bingle, still carried you to victory though, so no hard feelings?

Hard feelings after a game of mafia are dumb, imo. You can have salt if you want that things didn’t go your way, but blaming others just makes it more likely you and they won’t enjoy future games together.

[Bingle]

No problem. Besides, my reads blew monkey chunks this game.

[Bingle]

I said some things in there I don’t want people to see.