Micro 914: CultD3 (Over)

[Kanna]

Peace is the answer

VOTE: No lynch

[Kanna]

Always the same movie lol

VOTE: shos is the scummiest for opportunism weight but

i didn't like hectic either

Salamence is town in this game

Why though?

[Kanna]

Real question; so we HAVE to lynch the cult leader right? Otherwise scum keep cropping up?

[Kanna]

Who is Dr Drew?? please

[Kanna]

Real question; so we HAVE to lynch the cult leader right? Otherwise scum keep cropping up?

Yes, and it has very interesting implications for leader!hunting when you think someone's been recruited, but that's irrelevant till day 2.

ALSO

The other cultist will sometimes act like a jester just to save their leader, especially on day 1/2

Spoiler:

hehahehahahe

claiming VT on the first post?

LOCK HIM UP

Dr Drew isn't in this game

>_>
<_<

JANGLE?

OH NO THE SCUM HAZ CAUGHT ME

SO YOU'RE NOT CLAIMING VT?

[Kanna]

Yeah i'm vt

O_o

WHY claim?

It was the correct thing to do at the time

?

[Kanna]

Tone of his post, was expecting exactly that.

ELABORATE

I have recently played against scum!sala where he deathtunneled me first, then slipped about some game mechanics that i caught up and i got him lynched for that, so he swore some sort of vengeance on me. I expected him to resume it in this game, but he would probably have been over-aware if he were scum. I call him town.

Not really sure I buy this though; he only said 2 words and it wasn't that much of a risky move?

[Kanna]

Real question; so we HAVE to lynch the cult leader right? Otherwise scum keep cropping up?

Ok, I created this setup, so I know it better than anyone else: Yes and no. Cult can only have three living cultists at any time, so if they recruit tonight, they can't recruit unless we lynch a cultist. Ideally, we'd lynch the cult leader today, but as the maiden voyage demonstrated, it's possible for scum to still win with a cult lynch d1, and the leader being found early.

I strive to be recruited at the last minute and win.

[Kanna]

Hectic is yelling a lot in this game :c

[Kanna]

A little

[Kanna]

Fark is also town btw. I'm calling it now.

Why is this?

[Kanna]

I’ll also try and make a weak readlist later

[Kanna]

I’m getting maybe low cult leader vibes from Fark cause on the outside, they seem quite townie, but some of their reads were kind of tmi imo and Poyzin is a newbie so I didn’t like that read of them

[Kanna]

Also goodbye readlist; I couldn’t make one

[Kanna]

Wait I think Bingle’s idea could potentially work because we’ll either get
> 2 confirmed town
> a counterclaim because there are other PRs
> nothing if in other setups, but we didn’t lose anything

[Kanna]

I mean, I guess a failed recruit is nice but the chance is kind of low

[Kanna]

Maybe the readlist? Could be just me but I’m struggling to find AI stuff so it seems weird how can already make a readlist

[Kanna]

Ok will do and will come back to you later

[Kanna]

Still haven’t meta’d Farkran but since we’re doing this, I’m not UT either. Be back later.

[Kanna]

Yeah, do think this is a good approach

[Kanna]

Therefore, we mass claim not UT on DAY 2 to prevent that, rather than day 1.

In column 3 rows 1 and 2 there is only one PR. If the sole PR is recruited, then cult can literally have that PR and the CL claim UT and town autoloses if they trust it. Therefore, any UT claim after D1 without specifically a roleblocker flip is untrustworthy.

Yeah it is too late; we should’ve discussed + agreed before we started claiming but I still think this seals the deal? ^ D2 isn’t reliable because there are setups with 1 PR and furthermore scum know what column we’re in so they’ll know if they’ve recruited the sole PR > from there it gets really icky

[Kanna]

Oh well if it’s the wrong decision oh well we’ve gone too far now

[Kanna]

Lul, Kanna's been a UTR in every game I've played in. Kanna, what's your opinion of Korina's read on Poyzin's recent post, and do you agree/disagree?

Uhh...semi agree; I don’t really have a read on Poyzin rn. Why do you ask?

[Kanna]

Oh #156 sums up pro claiming perfectly I think

[Kanna]

Also I meta’d Farkran and tbf they’ve done early readlists as town and scum so it’s probably NAI.

[Kanna]

I missed shos. I know.
@shos, are you doing/ was doing a gambit you might want to reveal?

What does this mean?

[Kanna]

Also, but don't you guys think the cult leader is probably trying to seem townie rn? Lurker/not advancing conversation more likely cultists

[Kanna]

Lul, Kanna's been a UTR in every game I've played in.

Have you played with Kanna scum?

Only this game.

AM I RIGHT, KANNA?

Actually, could I hear your read on Bengle so far?

hecticwhatareyoutalkingaboutdon'tsellmeoutlikethat

Also was asked for a readlist so,
<Hectic, Korina, Bingle>
<Farkran>
<No lynch, shoes>

<Sala, Poyzin> = ??? because here's absolutely not enough content

Top tier are naturally townie imo,
Farkran is townie, but I feel like it's more of a ~conscious~ townie
No Lynch, shos; partially POE and partially don't feel so good about their posting

[Kanna]

Would also like to hear why Korina TRs me

[Kanna]

I missed shos. I know.
@shos, are you doing/

was doing a gambit you might want to reveal?

What does this mean?

I admitted that I didn't publish my read on shos yet and asked him a question.

very funny. But you know what I meant was what gave you the idea shos was gambiting?/why did you say this?

[Kanna]

3) That is the only read I have thus far stated, yes. I don’t like talking about null reads, and the best argument I’ve read about a lynch candidate is Korina’s points on ”no łynch”.

This is not an excuse, this is simply admitting that I haven’t been very helpful in terms of reads as I don’t have any posts talking about my own. Hectic and Kanna I feel are town, but that isn’t helpful in itself if I don’t provide any evidence for my reasoning, which I haven’t yet done.

And why exactly are you not providing reasoning on Kanna and I being town? Even loose uncertain thoughts are fine.

This, please.

Also i don't really believe everyone besides those three are null for you. Content has been flowing through the last pages - even if you haven't determined the alignment of someone, you can't say they are completely null. There must be something that pinged you the right or the wrong way.

Poyzin as CL with Korina as cultist? Makes sense?

^^ that’s a good post. Also think NL shouldn’t be so deadset on the quickhammer thing.

[Kanna]

Opps wrong quote

[Kanna]

Meant #270 was a good post

[Kanna]

@Farkran; why did you suggest poyzin CL and Korina cultist?

[Kanna]

I’m getting low town vibes from Poyzin; his response to Farkran was good imo. Also slighter stronger TR on Korina because he’s just too real/unfiltered

[Kanna]

Also goodbye readlist; I couldn’t make one

What makes it good then? Why could he make one and you couldn't?

What?

What makes what good? Also how am I supposed to answer the second question?

[Kanna]

@shos; what made you change your mind in the 5mins between #282 and #283?

[Kanna]

@Farkran; why did you suggest poyzin CL and Korina cultist?

Because of ... everything i said in my ISO about poyzin, and post 258 for korina. I don't think korina is the CL, i agree that CL wouldn't be this flashy. But any other cultist can take a hit, and even if that particular post is just a slight, potential scumslip, it would be poor play to ignore such things. It's not like scum would come out and say "oh right, i scumslipped, i need to die now /vote myself". It's not like i scumlocked them either, i just feel i am onto something.

Remind me what your reasons are for Poyzin because I ISO’d you and the main reasons I found were about inactivity and prodging. Why Poyzin instead of Sala? I also don’t understand your tunnel on them at all; i’m paranoid you’re targeting them in bad faith. Agree about Korina not being CL though

[Kanna]

Hectic's #302 is a good find. Also I forgot to comment on Farkran accusing Korina of scumslipping. First reaction is he didn't but will check sometime later.

[Kanna]

@Farkran;what do you think about No Lynch?

[Kanna]

Sorry, was busy today.

Anyway, Bingle is very convincing; you can count me tentatively on board. Gonna do some other stuff but will come back and do some digging on shos.

[Kanna]

@Poyzin; why No Lynch? Also what did you think of Bingle’s case on shos?

[Kanna]

Also I ISO’d shos and I do think there’s a p high chance of scum. This post stuck out to me in particular:

@Hectic 307: I wasn't fully grasping the setup. I do think I do understand it now though. You can be sure as scum I would have studied the setup faaar better, lol....
it appears to me now that the setp is actually town sided, in general. Cult win condition is to get a MAJORITY, so without a cult leader, technically they're pretty fucked, even if he dies D2 or D3. The cap makes me think all sorts of things I'd consider as scum which could be cool strategicaly but no reason to expose those. Interesting setup

The first part is a weird/fake townslip, and the second part feels kinda like scummy demotivation(?)

[Kanna]

Their latest pushes against Farkran are also pinging me for a slightly tinfoily reason; I’ll look into that tomorrow.

[Kanna]

UNVOTE: yikes

Will be on tonight

[Kanna]

So many scumz.

Kinda still leaning towards shos though.

@shos; what do you think about my post? Also any comments about people calling out you fake townslipping?

Also I ISO’d shos and I do think there’s a p high chance of scum. This post stuck out to me in particular:

@Hectic 307: I wasn't fully grasping the setup. I do think I do understand it now though. You can be sure as scum I would have studied the setup faaar better, lol....
it appears to me now that the setp is actually town sided, in general. Cult win condition is to get a MAJORITY, so without a cult leader, technically they're pretty fucked, even if he dies D2 or D3. The cap makes me think all sorts of things I'd consider as scum which could be cool strategicaly but no reason to expose those. Interesting setup

The first part is a weird/fake townslip, and the second part feels kinda like scummy demotivation(?)

[Kanna]

I don't really know why I'm a UTR tbh but thanks @OS and BS; any reason other than sheeping?

[Kanna]

Also wrt to my other post, these pushes are v v weak. I think if shos isn't cult leader, this could be distancing?

Spoiler:

I have not much to add about shos other than i don't think he's CL, but he might be covering the CL. I can still compromise on him if the deadline nears, but i see poyzin or even nolynch as higher CL equity.

Can we Lynch this please
Falkran keeps always calling people scum and then not voting them because they are not the cult leader. Possible cult PRs are not good lynches for D1? Put your money where your mouth is

i don't think he's CL

Why not?

I think that, in a game where there are a fair quantity of newbies or at least recent join dates, people would be more inclined to play by the manual rather than subverting it. Cultist making himself viable for a (hopefully for him) later lynch makes sense, CL drawing full attention from all the most inquisitive slots makes... less sense. Wifom is king, as usual, and i won't rule out the possibility of shos being CL but i think he's <rand CL and >rand other cult.

This is so bullshit
Its like his own form of buddying

[Kanna]

Disclaimer:

I will be off-meta in this game (I will, for example, be doing reads). Don't use information gathered in this game for reading my meta.

Haven't checked your meta yet, but is there a reason you're changing it + telling us you're changing it?

[Kanna]

@shos; i mean, iirc, you and hectic were talking about daytalk but you've "townslipped" so many times not even including that. Also I still don't know what your response is

[Kanna]

@Hectic 307: I wasn't fully grasping the setup. I do think I do understand it now though.

You can be sure as scum I would have studied the setup faaar better, lol....

it appears to me now that the setp is actually town sided, in general. Cult win condition is to get a MAJORITY, so without a cult leader, technically they're pretty fucked, even if he dies D2 or D3. The cap makes me think all sorts of things I'd consider as scum which could be cool strategicaly but no reason to expose those. Interesting setup

There's one right there ^ it's as if to say "don't forget I'm town!!" but it comes across as weird. That's what i was talking about in my earlier post; what's your response?

[Kanna]

I kinda don't understand^

[Kanna]

I understood it as he's played recent games and daytalk is normal so it's weird for him to assume it doesn't exist here?

[Kanna]

Is that something you actually believe? Anyways I did read and was talking about something different so

[Kanna]

I still think shos is p scummy but I have yet to/am going to check meta to see if this is normal.

@Korina; I used that logic recently and was wrong. Does anything about shos seem different to you in this game?

[Kanna]

Also I looked closer at Hectic and I’m kinda questioning my TR. He seems less solvy/carefree than I’m used to maybe?

+1 to more Poyzin though. Still think they might be town but we’ll see

[Kanna]

@korina; I mean “does absolutely nothing about shos seem different in this game?”

[Kanna]

Towncore:

Bingle
shos
Kori

Probs not CL because of the ease with which their wagons popped up:
Blatant
Farkran

Don't want to lynch on angleshooty replacing out of a cult game via lurking implies not cult reasons:
Obv

Poyz, Hectic, Kanna all seem like fine lynches. I'd compromise on any of the three, but atm I actually think I prefer Kanna. Sheeping me onto Shos feels like letting a high charisma player get

a mislynch and the blame for said mislynch.

How do you know shos is a mislynch?

[Kanna]

Holy shit I have stuff to say but I’m v busy rn; be here soon + please wait for me

[Kanna]

Ok, I’m just gonna be honest here; bullet points cause I’m tired.

>I think it’s Bingle/Farkran; Farkran is CL, Bingle is cultist
>Bingle’s “gambit” was probably to make a fake case and push whoever who bit, what he didn’t account for imo is he needed to have confidence shos is town BEFORE pulling the gambit and I’m not sure why he would be confident unless he was cult
>shos is scummy but if I’m right, Bingle tmi’d him as town
>Rn, bingle knows there’s a high chance he’s going down so he’s pushing Farkran
>notice how bingle tried to tie me to Farkran by saying if I flip scum, it’s Farkran? I’m not flipping scum so if you decide to lynch me, it’s supposed to look good for Farkran
>Farkran’s latest combos don’t make sense but I think the main takeaway is just to link me and bingle for if he flips scum (I think he will)

Furthermore, I do think I didn’t really deserve a TR early on in the game, mainly because I didn’t really do that much, so Farkran’s early TR on me felt weird, almost appeasement because I wasn’t TRing them. Farkran has been my secret SR all along.

Also now that we know Poyzin is town, that push on him by Farkran was bad imo; I still have no idea why he tunnelled him apart from inactivity and it seemed easy.

[Kanna]

P.S; if only this was Hectic/Kanna, that’s a dream team

[Kanna]

Also @Hectic, I’m sorry I broke our pact :c for the reasoning, maybe it’s paranoia but the town!you in my mind has a bigger presence (hence the less solvy) and is also more jokey (carefree)? Idk, but I’m kinda into my solve rn so l’m putting that to the side. Do you think I’m justified?

[Kanna]

I’m only roughly caught up and have to be out for the next couple of hours so please delay hammering if you can.

I’m gonna go VOTE: Poyzin to make my vote useful and give you guys that option.

[Kanna]

Also that’s exactly what I though, Farkran

[Kanna]

@Poyzin; is it just me or did your tone change? Also what is your progression wrt to me?

[Kanna]

@Hectic; wrt to #660, I’m not sure I’m getting the logic there?

I mean, scum always know what column we’re in because they have the scum PR, meaning they knew we were in B from the start. B has 2 PRs in every row so for scum to fake claim, they know they’re CCing someone. Why would they prefer tracker over anything else?

As for the scumteam; taking a step back, my best guess is probably Poyzin/Farkran with Fark CL. Fark’s early TR on me still pings me weirdly + since scum knew they were going to be CC’d, Poyzin doesn’t look as good as he does on the surface

[Kanna]

I can’t with all this WIFOM honestly VOTE: Farkran

[Kanna]

@ObvScum; a little off maybe? Contents reads like he should be annoyed but tone is calm? I was going to ask though; who’s playing against their wincon?

@Hectic; ah I see what you mean. That does make sense. If we assume Poyzin is more likely telling the truth though, I can see Bingle/shos based on the cc when Bingle was lynched, but then that seems too easy. What are you thinking?

[Kanna]

I only had BS’s vote when I claimed. I was at freaking L-4.

Korina I wasn’t even looking for crumbs. I didn’t know you were even crumbing until you said you were. I figured

the tracker

might have but

I couldn’t care less who the tracker was

at that time because I hoped they would claim when I did.

Wait, do anyone think this might be a slip? There’s also a role stopper in A which isn’t with tracker?

[Kanna]

Also I see, but I really disagree Korina’s been anti town to win with the cult. This probably doesn’t matter though.

[Kanna]

No? Ok. Hectic, do you want me to hammer?

[Kanna]

VOTE: Bingle

[Kanna]

I’m here, but I’ll wait for claims too.

[Kanna]

^Why would he gamble like that? I guess it could be big brain play but that's not very likely.

P.S; I think CL is Farkran

[Kanna]

But what if the cultists didn't recruit Korina yesterday because everyone expected them to and he would be seen as unreliable today anyway?

Also I was theorising Hectic got the FN message but since it seems like he hasn't, then yeah shos/poyzin are both cult. I didn't get it and no one else seems to have gotten it either. I think Korina's result could be very useful.

[Kanna]

I'm still more inclined to think Poyz is the rolecop and shos got recruited yesterday. His entry was very not town. CL is in the rest of us.

[Kanna]

Why aren't you considering me, OS?

I'll come back when Korina says something because this game is too big brained for me. I still think Fark/Poyz makes the most sense and Fark's Poyzin push today is incredibly weird.

[Kanna]

OS is so town

[Kanna]

Alright I don't wanna work cuz I feel like shit and I have a pagetop here so I'll use it to get the message across

@everyone: please answer
Why would rolecop-shos counterclaim poyzin on D1, when bingles was at L-1 and you know he flipped town?

Shos was not a viable wagon.
Bingles was not his cult leader.

Rolecop-shos would coast under the radar; CL would cult poyzin the rolestopper; 3 cult undisturbed continuing the game. Rolecop-shos can then play some suicide move to get lynched, and korina will be recruited as well. 100% profit.

Even though shos is 90% cult with his entry + not being able to confirm himself, this is true actually.

That’s why the solution that makes the most sense is: shos was the FN, Poyzin is the rolecop > shos got recruited last night. Why shos over Korina is a bit harder to say but i think it’s either because they thought they could persuade everyone Korina is unreliable today (unlikely, since no one has) or to spread WIFOM about the role stopper being real.

We really should looking for Poyzin partners at this point and imo, Farkran still fits the best
>the tunnel on Poyzin D1
>tunneled to him to the point where “he had to claim”. No one was on Poyz as much as Farkran.
>Poy makes sure to TR Farkran

VOTE: Farkran

[Kanna]

I am also very very strongly people voting Poyzin because the chance that he is cult but not CL is so high and we’ll absolutely lose if we go that way.

[Kanna]

@everyone, but do you really think CL!Poy gambles on RS with a 33% of getting autolynched and ending the game?

[Kanna]

I really really doubt Poy is CL and I really don't wanna lynch him.

[Kanna]

Oh uh...carry on then

[Kanna]

@OS and Kanna, i really don't believe you are cult together, so you are just not reading the game and suffering from a large problem of agreement bias.

For instance, kanna, i am pretty sure you are townreading OS just because he's scumreading me. You have to realize this does not make any sense, and everyone among you who is not cult is literally throwing the game based on poor logic, poor memory and/or poor ability to read and summarize past events. If you are not willing to reread and actually put effort in FINDING a scumcase rather than building it from the bottom up, there's nothing i can do about you. There are, in particular, three things you have to realize:

1) While in d1 it would make sense that the CL forces cultist!poyzin to claim to lure out the PRs, in d2 this is no longer true. If the cult has 3 members, there are no more threats to them. There is no need to bus anyone. Their ONE AND ONLY concern is to let the CL survive. Nothing else matters at this point. I was voting poyzin because, before shos was confirmed cultist, poyzin had CL equity. I really, really, really do not get how you are not understanding this.
2) If i am CL and poyzin was my original partner, you are now assuming shos is town. A town friendly neighbor who chose not to visit anyone, and waited for korina to claim first. This is nonsense.
3) Point 2 also implies korina is cult, because there was no rolestopper to begin with. Cult!korina doesn't play like that, and recruiting anyone else does not make sense. It's not even worth gambiting over it, because as long as the CL remains hidden they can refill their ranks every day. Wifom has no benefits over canceling even a minor threat such as korina n1 investigation. In case i didn't made my point clear: their only concern is that the CL survives. Everything else is irrelevant.

This is about why your reasons to scumread me are based on a wrong premise. Next post is about who could be CL in this gamestate.

Don't know if this is still relevant, but I'll answer anyway:

1) Sure, there isn't a *need* to bus their partners, but is there any reason not to? Lynching one of the cultists is basically a mislynch because the cult can get that +1 back. It also ensures their CL is safe. Not addressing CL!Poy because obv reasons
2) no I'm not; I said in my prev post I think shos got recruited. We agree here.
3) This is exactly what I was talking about with the "WIFOM that the RS is real" thing. I'm p sure someone said this last game day, but it's possible for Poy to be a fake RS by the cult leader simply not recruiting him yesterday. With this, you can push the narrative that shos was the original cultist all along

[Kanna]

*edit: (3 isnt clear)

3) This is exactly what I was talking about with the "WIFOM that the RS is real" thing. I'm p sure someone said this last game day, but it's possible for Poy to be a functional-yet-fake!RS by the cult leader simply not recruiting Korina yesterday. With this, you can push the narrative that shos was the original cultist all along

[Kanna]

Basically, shos' play yesterday with the knowledge Bingle isn't CL is really agendaless so he is probably the real FN. He scumclaimed today, pretty sure. The rest is up in the air but IMO it's still Farkran.

[Kanna]

ahhh i really can't make sense today sorry i think I'm just going to go to bed but my opinion still stands

[Kanna]

Kanna what do you think of 431?

No real opinion. What did you think of it?

[Kanna]

Also FINE FARKRAN, FINE. UNVOTE: I do want to hear from BS too; he’s kind of been flying under the radar. Why would town!you self hammer though? @Farkran

[Kanna]

@Hectic; what do you think of my logic and do you still think shos was the original cultist?

[Kanna]

DON'T LET SH0S DERAIL

I'm not even reading shos posts anymore.

LOL poor shos

[Kanna]

>:c

[Kanna]

Kanna what do you think of 431?

No real opinion. What did you think of it?

I took it at the time as a continues shitpost but I'm a little worried that faking a pt slip is taking the joke a bit far and it could have actually been one

Oh I see; I didn't look at context the first time but I can kinda see that maybe

[Kanna]

Lol @ Poyzin

I still think it's Fark>>>BS>Hectic>>OS

[Kanna]

do you wanna join the party kanna?

let's not make shos wait for a replacement, let's see if he wants to hammer bs

>:c no

[Kanna]

The fact that Farkran was leading wagon for ages and no one made any moves makes me think that it's the right choice, but I might be conf!biasing.

BS, where are you?

[Kanna]

at this point though I'd just lynch anything frankly, this game feels super dead

guess this is why people don't like cult games

even the guy who likes cult games doesn't like this game

what does that tell ya

I kinda get this but I still don’t think we should go “fuck all”

[Kanna]

Or maybe I’m being stubborn idk.

[Kanna]

Can we wait for BS and then decide @everyone?

I think we can potentially win if we lynch one of <Farkran, BS> and the other one if wrong. I really don’t think CL is OS and I guess I can lose to Hectic if he really is CL.

[Kanna]

BS is weird and idk what to think anymore

[Kanna]

Are we really doing this?

[Kanna]

arhhh fun fact: i get nervous hammering but you guys make me do it everytime

[Kanna]

It kinda occurred to me that it's hard to get a CL lynch because it's 3v5. As in, all townies have to go for the CL because the cultists probs won't help.

[Kanna]

ehhhhh idk... I'll hammer soon if no one objects I guess?

[Kanna]

ok here I go VOTE: Blatant Scum

See you tomorrow friends

[Kanna]

shut up OS

[Kanna]

>:c

[Kanna]

VOTE: Hecscum take that

[Kanna]

Hi just caught up sorry

[Kanna]

you guys made me check my rolepm like 3 times but I really didn't get culted

[Kanna]

JESUS THIS GAME IS MOVING TOO FAST CHILL

[Kanna]

wait what

[Kanna]

BTW WE DON'T TALK ABOUT HOW STUPID I WAS IN THIS GAME

[Kanna]

Lul, Kanna's been a UTR in every game I've played in.

Have you played with Kanna scum?

Only this game.

AM I RIGHT, KANNA?

Actually, could I hear your read on Bengle so far?

hecticwhatareyoutalkingaboutdon'tsellmeoutlikethat

Also was asked for a readlist so,
<Hectic, Korina, Bingle>
<Farkran>
<No lynch, shoes>

<Sala, Poyzin> = ??? because here's absolutely not enough content

Top tier are naturally townie imo,
Farkran is townie, but I feel like it's more of a ~conscious~ townie
No Lynch, shos; partially POE and partially don't feel so good about their posting

ALSO LOOK AT THIS GUYS SMHMSJSMHSMSHSMSH

[Kanna]

In hindsight it makes a lot of sense for shos to be rolecop; he probably cc'd so we wouldn't have 2 confirmed townies ahhhh I just figured it out in the night

[Kanna]

In hindsight it makes a lot of sense for shos to be rolecop; he probably cc'd so we wouldn't have 2 confirmed townies ahhhh I just figured it out in the night

Still doesn't make any sense tbh. He could've claimed Cop instead which is much better, and makes us think it could be column A with a roleblocker, which suddenly puts doubt on everything. Also, Cop isn't instantly found out the next day like FN is.

that's true, but maybe they were going for the "it makes no sense so it must be true!" route idk but the cc does make sense.

[Kanna]

Oh, so TSE is still town? It is gg then.

KANNA

btw ouch Hectic </3

[Kanna]

Ahhh well played scum team! PT was v interesting!

P.S best wishes to blatant's garden